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[SC2B] Gangsters of Beta

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July 25th, 2010 08:18 GMT
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King of the Beta


Beta has reached its conclusion. After months of testing, 18 patches, thousands of words penned about the game, its finally time to release a finished product. We have something to settle first. A crown to place, to the man most deserving of the title "best in beta".

Day9 and Razer have delivered just that. 8 handpicked competitors, vying for $2000 , bragging rights, and a title that will remain for eternity. Fame. Girls. Starcraft is mainstream now right? So we can earn women with skill). Yeah, that sounds about right.

Many were considered, 8 were chosen. These are all men who need no introduction. They are the ballers, the hustlers, the malefactors of destruction. They will take the map, destroy your army, and make you leave the game feeling wholly unsatisfied.

They are the gangsters of beta. Here is the crew in its entirety.


IdrA
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I tried being humble, humble get no respect

Tester
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It ain't hard to tell, I excel, then prevail

IntoTheRainbow
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I never went no where, but they sayin' Rainbow's back

Dimaga
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Been to Hell and back, I can show you vouchers

White-Ra
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Married to the game, but she broke her vows

TheLittleOne
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I'm every color of the spectrum like Roy G Biv

Huk
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Ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do

Qxc*
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I pack heat like I'm the oven door

* Artist's depiction

They are pretty good. Each one of them has the capability of taking games from the best of the best, each of them with unparalleled street cred (however "street" you can be on the internet at least).

For those of us unfamiliar with who exactly oGs is, and who these Koreans are (this is more or less everyone on TL right now), we prepared a special introduction as to why you should watch out for them.

Introducing oGs
by Milkis


It's hard to say that oGs is a normal clan that the westerners are familiar with. No, it's more accurate to say that oGs is a gaming team, as they are filled with retired Starcraft progamers, KeSPA referees, and ex-coaches. old Generations is a clan that was created to slowly evolve into a Proteam, as they are a group of close-knit players who suggest that anyone thinking of joining them should have have a drink of soju and a round of Korean BBQ with them first.

Their experience as progamers definitely shines in their performances in tournaments and clan battles. With players like (Z)Cool all killing their rivals WeRRA in the semifinals and ENSNARE all killing Prime in the finals of Star2gether clan invitationals. oGs stands undefeated in the Starcraft 2 scene thus far, standing victorious over every other clan that had dared to challenge them all the while their players continue to dominate individual tournaments, as seen by an oGs finals between (T)TheStC and (Z)Cool at the first WTA Championship.

Will the foreign players be able to stop the best players in Korea, and show that this isn't Starcraft? Or will the Korean momentum prove too difficult to stop? We'll have to watch and see.

Their Roster is as follows, as of May 13th.

Guild Masters: (Z)[z-zone]SoO, (P)Spunky

Protoss
Spunky ((P)Spunky- ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
sSKS ((P)TesteR - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer / ex-Coach of eSTRO)
SiLveR ((Z)Silver - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
VicaL ((P)Vical - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
InCa (Song Joon Hyuk)

Zerg
과일장수 [Fruit Merchant] ((Z)Cool - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
TheWind ((Z)TheWinD - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
SiRaSoNi ((Z)SiR@SoNi - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
SoO ((Z)[z-zone]SoO - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer/Coach for Pantech)
Rain / BlueMassage ((Z)[kor]-Rain - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
박용욱 ((Z)sigamari - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
FreeDom ((T)Freedom - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
zenio (Choi Jung Min)

Terran
oGsGon / Feeling ((Z)Bright - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
NCYellow ((P)RainBOw -ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
TheStC ((T)TheStC - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer)
ENSNARE (Kim Sang Cheol)

Random
GARIMTO ((P)GARIMTO - ex-Starcraft 1 Progamer / Commentator)


And now a word from our esteemed tournament organizer, who also knows how to hustle.

Day 9 Interview
by Chobopeon


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TeamLiquid.net: Why hold the tournament?
Day9: I’ve been doing the daily cast for eight or nine months now. Three or four months into it, I recruited people to assist me because putting out regular content is so much work. We got to talking and wanted to hold a big, fun event for the release of StarCraft 2. What began as an idea for a simple cast and a happy birthday to Blizzard expanded into a gigantic event. That’s the birth of the launch party. The tournament was a natural extension.

I’ve always wanted to do a big live event where a major tournament finale takes place in America.
People love shoutcasts. You always hear Americans saying, “I only wish they had a huge OGN cast here.” Well, I couldn’t get Bisu or Boxer but I can get these supremely talented dudes to duke it out with Razer providing some nice prizes.

TeamLiquid.net: Why these specific players?
Day9: It actually worked out incredibly well.

I wanted a good mix of players. You’ll note the 3 Americans, 3 Europeans and 2 Asian players. You could even say Idra is half and half considering he’s lived with CJ Entus for a while.

With just that idea in mind, you have to get some big names. The obvious ones are people like TheLittleOne, whose creativity is renowned, Idra, who is just plain solid, Tester, who is one of the best in the world and QXC, who has just been tearing it up all over.

When I was done, I looked at the list and was surprised myself. I thought, ‘That was easy.’ It was a good mix of races and nationalities.

TeamLiquid.net: Are there any other players we should know about who aren’t in the tournament?
Day9: Well, I limited it to 8 players for a few reasons. It’s easier time wise, number one. Also, it’s nice for observers to get the chance to see people play multiple times in a row. All the players I invited are phenomenal players and I get to watch them, so I’m happy. With the daily casts, I get to see a lot of replays and think about them and all these invitees, I personally wanted to see more games with.

TeamLiquid.net: It was a great choice. The audience gets to watch and become more familiar with individual gamers, giving us a chance to form a real attachment and become serious fans.
Day9: Right.

As far as other players that everyone should know about: The folks on oGs, other than IntoTheRainbow, Tester, like Ensare, the guys on the Prime team like Check and Maka. From Europe, Haypro, Morrow, Jinro. The EG guys from America. Nony.

TeamLiquid.net: How hard is it to run a tournament like this?
Day: Incredibly hard. It’s funny, tons of people assume running a tournament is pretty easy. I’ve been in numerous tournies where I thought, ‘Oh my god, I can’t believe these people are so disorganized!’ It’s funny once you are actually the organizer, it makes you really appreciate people like the Zotac and TL folks. Just being able to organize and even and get things to go smoothly is an enormous task.

Lining up time zones, playing games, replay corruption, disconnection, observers, refs and a ton of problems that are the fault of nobody but are real obstacles. It’s incredibly difficult and super time consuming. (editor's note: we often feel this about coverage too)

TeamLiquid.net: Can you talk about the skill difference between different servers? I know it’s difficult to delve too deeply about who is on top of whom with the divide but do you have any insight?
Day9: I’m not a believer in the idea that one server is particularly stronger than another but the servers definitely have stylistic differences.

Asians tend to be aggressive. They use seemingly suicidal all-in builds, like a Zerg forgoing Drones completely in favor of ‘lings and Roaches. Europeans try to execute these clever strategic plays with neat transitions and funky unit compositions. Americans tend to be passive and wait for that one big, strong push.

The distinct styles means weak players are super exploitable. Asians are often too aggressive, Europeans have no unit count and Americans are so passive that you can just take over the map expanding.

At the very top of the servers, Koreans have an edge. Obviously this isn’t some innate gene that gives them the advantage in StarCraft. Not that I know of anyway.
TeamLiquid.net: Not that you know of...
Day9: Time devoted to play by teams like OGS and Prime lead to better gamers. Devoted people with lots of time is very helpful. Over here, we have jobs and school that cuts into that time. The EG fellows are quite a ways ahead because they constantly hang out and play and chat with each other and are not afraid to experiment.

TeamLiquid.net: Do you have any solid plans for after the tournament that we should know about?
Day9: I’ve been devoting all my time and more to the live event. You know, I don’t want to think about Plan B when I have Plan A right in front of me. I’m really excited for the event and want to make it awesome, so it’s receiving my complete focus.

I am in the final phase of putting together a site with all my content on it, everything I do in one central location. And I miss playing, so I’m going to go ahead and do that. I really, really like playing StarCraft.


Well said. So do we, Mister Day, so do we. Without further adieu, lets get to some serious games.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1] +
Rainbow 2 - 0 Dimaga
HuK 1 - 2 TheLittleOne


Dimaga vs IntoTheRainBow
Dimaga opens 14 pool gas while IntoTheRainbow gets a barracks with a tech lab on Steppes of War, popping out a single reaper before starting his factory. Dimaga starts up zergling speed and plops down a roach warren, going all-in with a small roach ling force. IntoTheRainbow sees this, and pulls much-needed SCVS to repair his wall, completely shutting down the attack with a marauder, a siege tank, and a handful of marines. Both players take their naturals, with Dimaga continuing to mass roach ling, going for the bust right after IntoTheRainbow starts mining from his new expansion. However, there are far too many tanks, and Dimaga ggs after losing his entire force while killing just a single bunker. Dimaga chooses Lost Temple as the next battlefield, and both players again opt for similar openings. However, Dimaga instead choses to kill the rocks blocking the high yield while IntoTheRainbow bunkers his front after scanning 5 fast roaches in Dimaga's main. Not to be outdone, IntoTheRainbow takes a fast second gas and hides a starport at the top of his base, waiting for two banshees and cloak before harassing. Dimaga gets caught with his pants down, losing the majority of his drones and queens. IntoTheRainbow then goes for the jugular with a marine marauder hellion thor attack to Dimaga's gold expansion.

HuK vs TheLittleOne
The players arrive on Blistering Sands with TheLittleOne choosing to go for a barracks factory barracks marine hellion rush, which gets shut down with some nice micro and well-placed force fields from Huk. Huk responds by increasing his warp gate count to five, taking out TLO's backdoor rocks and easily rolling over the small opposing marauder hellion force. TLO chooses Steppes of War as the next map, deciding to again go for an early marine hellion attack. This time, a misplaced force field allows all of TLO's units up the ramp, and they go wild in Huk's main. Clearly behind after cleaning up the attack, Huk goes for a counter, which is easily defended by a well-bunkered ramp. Well in the lead, TLO continues to harass with hellions, pulling even further ahead. However, as the old saying goes, when in doubt, press "k" (or, in this case, "d"), as Huk manages to even things out with three huge dark templar. But TLO's hellion harass is relentless, and after a failed Protoss attack on TLO's third, he pulls ridiculously ahead and decides to end the game by massing battlecruisers that shut down Huk's half of the map. With the series tied 1-1, Huk chooses Lost Temple as the final destination. A lone marine pops out and runs over to harass the Protoss base, quickly followed by a hellion and a reaper. Huk quickly techs to robotics units, going for a two immortal drop while TLO gains a massive advantage by yet another hellion runby, followed by some great cloaked banshee harass. Again securing a massive economic advantage, TLO slowly pushes out towards Huk's base, and is met by an undersized Protoss force that melts under superior firepower.

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White-Ra 2 - 0 qxc
Tester 2 - 0 Idra


IdrA vs Tester
Idra and Tester spawn at close ground positions on Lost Temple, with Tester choosing to go pylon forge at his natural while Idra opens pool first. Tester then proceeds to wall off Idra's ramp with pylons and a cannon, trapping him on a single base. Idra take his gas and skooches up a spine crawler to poke at the pylon wall while throwing down another hatchery in the back of his main and massing speedlings. Meanwhile, Tester warps in two cybernetics cores and chronoboosts a sentry from his single gateway, which comes out just in time to force field Idra's speedling attack. With his all-in completely nullified, Idra ggs. Scrap Station is Idra's map of choice as both player opt for macro openings. Both players buckle down, with Idra amassing an enormous hydra ling army and Tester poking around with his sizable gateway force after poking around with a scouting phoenix. Then, Tester throws down two robotics facilities, rushing to add in colossi as Idra maxes out on hydra ling. After throwing in four colossi into his army, Tester moves out through the short destructible path for a huge han bang attack that easily rips through the mass of hydra ling with wonderful force fields.

QXC vs White-Ra
Game one is on Blistering Sands, and White-Ra starts out tricky off the bat, proxying a Stargate at the top of the map while Qxc sneaks a task force of marines and hellions into White-Ra's undefended main, which is swiftly dealt with by probes and a single stalker. Meanwhile, White-Ra counters with a single fully charged void ray, which is quickly backed up by two stalkers, that easily shut down Qxc's empty base. Down 0-1, Qxc chooses Metalopolis with his scouting SCV just barely missing the Stargate tucked away in the top corner of White-Ra's base, he decides to tech to banshees and just barely manages to hold off a surprise void ray and phoenix that come charging into his main moments later. However, White-Ra doesn't let up, making more phoenixes and void rays that clear out Qxc's defense as gateway units clean up the rest of the base.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 3] +
Dimaga 2 - 1 White-Ra
Idra 2 - 1 HuK


HuK vs IdrA
The combatants arrive on Blistering Sands, with Huk starting with two forward gates followed by a quick expansion after just a few zealots. Both players switch to macro mode, with Huk rushing up to a total of nine gateways and moving out at around 90 supply with a pure zeal sentry stalker army. Idra, caught droning and sitting on a paltry roach ling force, simply doesn't have enough units to deal with the attack and types out. Idra chooses Steppes of War as the next map and shows another macro opening. On the other side of the map, Huk opts for one base play and gets a fast forge, chronoboosting a +1 and adding five more gates, amassing a huge zealot sentry army. Idra responds correctly by massing spine crawlers at his natural and completely shuts down Huk's attack, so Huk tries to play catch up with some dark templar while adding high templar and immortals into his army mix as Idra sits back on a nice macro advantage and rolls him over with an nice ultralisk switch. With the series tied 1-1, we return to the classic map Lost Temple, and both players decide to take their naturals before making other buildings. Huk decides to go for some heavy robotics play, massing colossi and immortals from two chronoboosted robotics facilities but forgetting the key thermal lance upgrade and losing his army to a superior hydra roach corruptor force. A switch to ultra ling is the nail in the coffin as Idra comes from behind to take the series.

Dimaga vs White-Ra
The players spawn close positions on Lost Temple, with White-Ra building two forward gates and Dimaga getting an early gas. White-Ra decides to set up camp on Dimaga's ramp, while Dimaga throws down a baneling nest, easily busting the zealot wall and running towards White-Ra's natural only to find yet another ling tight wall. Undeterred, Dimaga amasses a huge ling/baneling force and attempts a bust but deals minimal damage and calls it quits after White-Ra builds up a sizeable amount of void rays and carriers. Game two is on Steppes of War, with the players choosing builds that just scream a repeat of game one. However, this time Dimaga's baneling bust just completely rips through White-Ra's force field-less defenses, and White-Ra ggs as his single void ray is unable to stop the endless congo line of lings streaming into his base. This time, Blistering Sands is chosen with White-Ra again going double forward gates and Dimaga opting for 14 pool gas. However, Dimaga gets a little tricksy, this time throwing down a roach warren before barreling through White-Ra's backdoor with roach ling. Unable to wall off his backdoor, White-Ra can only watch in horror as wave after wave of lings run by his backdoor cannons and harass his main, sniping off the nexus. And, sitting tight on one base, there's nothing White-Ra can do as Dimaga amasses a sizable hydralisk force and busts the cannons at his last base.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 4] +
IntoTheRainbow 2 - 0 White-Ra
Tester 2 - 1 HuK


White-rA vs IntoTheRainBOw
White-Ra sneaks an early probe into IntoTheRainbow's main on Steppes of War, proxying two gateways that are unscouted until the very last minute. Unfazed, IntoTheRainbow plops down a bunker, and both players have their hands full with an intense micro battle as White-Ra techs to stalkers. Eventually, shut down with beautiful micro from both sides, and IntoTheRainbow runs straight into White-Ra's main with a sizeable marine marauder hellion force. A missed force field seals the game, as IntoTheRainbow capitalizes on his key timing and shuts down White-Ra before his macro could come back online. The players find themselves in spawning close positions on Lost Temple with White-Ra going for void rays. However, IntoTheRainbow decides it's his turn for a little cheddar as he proxies a factory and floats it into White-Ra's main right as he attacks with marines and a marauder. Another tense micro scuffle ensues and IntoTheRainbow comes out on top, dealing some decent damage before the void ray is able to clean up. White-Ra decides to go for the air counter, boosting out two phoenixes to accompany his void ray to the Terran base, but finds them out of position as the lone void ray gets sniped by two vikings. IntoTheRainbow wastes no time in going for the kill, and White-Ra ggs, lacking any ground troops to deal with the marauder viking attack.

Tester vs HuK
The players find themselves on Metalopolis, and Tester decides to showcase the infamous four warpgate attack, cutting probes and building proxy pylons like a madman, speedily warping in wave after chronoboosted wave of zealots straight into Huk's main and overwhelming his small number of defensive stalkers. Huk strikes back in game two on Lost Temple, stealing Tester's gas while comfortably taking his one. Tester decides to go for gusto, again going for warpgate attack. However, this strategy is horribly late, and Huk repels the awkwardly timed warp stalker attack with ease. Game three is again on Lost Temple, and Tester decides to take a quick expansion after his core. Huk has other ideas, though, and goes for an immortal attack at Tester's newly warped natural, managing to take it down through brute force, but losing his army to a fresh batch of reinforcements and a nice blink trap in the process. Both players continue to macro off of one base, with Huk favoring zealots and immortals Tester favoring blink stalkers. In a flash of brilliance, Tester sends his stalkers to blink to Huk's undefended main as Huk tries to attack but gets indefinitely stalled at Tester's ramp with excellent force fields. With a base in ruins and enemy stalkers quickly reinforcing against a stalled attack, Huk ggs.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 5] +
Dimaga 0 - 2 qxc
Tester 2 - 1 TheLittleOne


QXC vs Dimaga
Steppes of War is the map of the day as Qxc finds himself going reactor hellion expand. Dimaga decides to use the same roach speedling opening he showed us on day one against IntoTheRainbow but again finds himself unable to do any damage. Qxc is relentless as his every-growing ball of hellions roasts speedlings and roaches alike. He then goes straight for the kill with a sizeable force of marauders and hellions, and deals a massive amount of damage before getting shut down by reinforcement roaches. Comfortably ahead, Qxc lands at his natural, having thors up well in time for Dimaga's mutalisk switch and rolling over his opponent soon thereafter with a big ball of marauder hellion thor. Dimaga chooses Metalopolis in hope of turning the tides, and takes a fast expansion at the gold minerals after scouting the close air spawning positions and taking a third at his natural soon after. Qxc again opens reactor hellion expand, showcasing some dominating hellion versus speedling micro as he continues to mass hellions nonstop from his reactor factory. Meanwhile, Qxc techs to banshees, while adding on thors and marines to counter Dimaga's mutalisk switch. Suffering from all of the drones and speedlings lost in the hellion harass, Dimaga drones hard to catch back up on macro, but Qxc won't stand for that sort of nonsense. Attacking Dimaga's third with a huge ball of marine hellion thor and sniping of drones in Dimaga's main with cloaked banshees, Qxc takes the series with a comfortable 2-0.

Tester vs TheLittleOne
Game one is on Blistering Sands, and TLO opts for a ballsy barracks command macro build. Tester will have none of this, however, and goes for a fast four warpgate attack. TLO finds his three barracks just can't keep up and calls it quits. Game two is by popular opinion THE game to watch, and one of the best games of the tournament. I won't spoil it here, but let it suffice to say that nukes were launched and motherships and battlecruisers were built in this extremely action-packed game. Do yourself a favor and watch it now. With game three on Metalopolis, the series comes to a disappointing conclusion, as TLO's hellion reaper harass he showcased against Huk was definitively shut down. Despite seeing a stargate, TLO, busily preparing for the stalker attack at his front, is unprepared as two void rays fly into his main and take the game.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 6] +
Rainbow 0 - 2 qxc
Idra 2 - 1 TheLittleOne


The games on this day are all incredible. They have to be seen to be appreciated.

qxc vs IntoTheRainbow
Game 1
Game 2


Idra vs TheLittleOne
Game 1
Game 2



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VOD links here.


Always prepared, we are TL after all, we had a quick chat with one of the men you will see duke it out for the gold in a short time.

Idra Interview
by Chobopeon


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TeamLiquid.net: Now that's it's over, how was the beta gone for you all in all? Are you happy with where the game is at? Are you happy with where you're at?

IdrA: For me personally it started out pretty well, won a couple of the first big events on the US server and did well at Stars War, but I was a bit disappointed with the second half of the first phase. They started to nerf Zerg really hard right before some of the huge tournaments, like the Chinese World Cup, and while some of the nerfs were necessary it really threw me off my game and caused me to drop out of those tournaments early.

Obviously the second phase has gone quite well so far, the Razer King of the Beta tournament is the only large thing im playing in and it started out kind of rocky, but I've advanced and I feel im getting back into shape quickly so everythings looking good now.

TeamLiquid: Who was the strongest player you faced in the group stage? The weakest? What did you think of the overall level of play?

IdrA: Tester's by far the strongest, HuK the weakest. I think TLO's play in our match was hurt pretty significantly by the beta downtime, we played on the 2nd day back and I think he was still pretty rusty at that point. Tester played well, huk just tried to allin every game.

TeamLiquid: Do you have any insight into the difference in level of play between asia and the rest of the world? I know it's a bit tough because of the server division but you'd know how they stack up better than most.

IdrA: Pretty much the same as in Brood War. Foreigners in large part play like HuK, they look for powerful killing builds because thats the easiest way to get wins, and in a lot of cases theyre incapable of playing competently when the game gets longer and requires more multitasking. This does get them wins, but it cripples them when everyone else figures out their style, or if they come out behind from the build orders.

Koreans have no problem playing aggressively, but its less in the way of all-ins and more just aggression that can then transition into a normal game. That, in combination with the fact that they practice twice as much as foreigners, just naturally makes them stronger players as time goes on.
Also most of the really skilled foreign RTS players aren't taking sc2 seriously yet, which really hurts non korean's performance overall.

TeamLiquid: Do you have any single play during the group stage which you are particularly proud of? Any one play you remember which you wish you could take back?

IdrA: Well the Tester series was pretty bad, I'd never run in to that particular cannon rush before but I'm still not entirely sure how to counter it if you start with a 14 pool or later, then the scrap game I thought he was warp gate all-ining and didn't see the collosus switch fast enough. I was really happy with the push break on metalopolis vs TLO, when I saw his army come out I definitely thought I was dead, but managed to just barely hold it off.

TeamLiquid: Yes, everyone thought that was the end of the game. You pulled quite a few roaches straight out of thin air. Well timed.

IdrA: Ya he came right as I was starting unit production so it made it seem a bit more dramatic than it actually was.

TeamLiquid: Do you have any interesting plans for once SC2 is released or is going to be more of the same scattered tournament play for the immediate future?

IdrA: Well I'm pretty sure Korea isn't switching over entirely immediately, so for this fall at least I believe I will be flying around playing in all the big SC2 tournaments.

TeamLiquid: Good luck in that then!



There you have it. Our final players will be Idra, Tester, Rainbow, & QXC. In less than 48 hours, they will battle it out to decide who is the baddest of the bad. Who has the most street smarts, who wants it the most. Who has put in the time, who has the dedication, who is willing to shed the most blood for a coveted title.

Tune in Tuesday, Jul 27 6:59am GMT (GMT+00:00) to see the rest of the action unfold!

This SC2 tournament update was brought to you by Team Liquid's Starcraft 2 coverage team - heyoka, Saracen, Milkis, and chobopeon.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5655 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 08:33:40
July 25 2010 08:22 GMT
#2
awesome reading!

i really appreciate the information on oGs since me and my roommate were just wondering today exactly what oGs was, so ty for that

idra so humble with that amazing hold on metalopolis. that was purely amazing to watch

and finally I agree that the qxc vs ITR games are so amazing they can't be summarized. well played

great writeup!

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soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 25 2010 08:23 GMT
#3
can't wait!
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krowe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States184 Posts
July 25 2010 08:23 GMT
#4
good read
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
July 25 2010 08:29 GMT
#5
haha qxc's pic (is that a painting?)

Entertaining post
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
July 25 2010 08:31 GMT
#6
Idra come to germany and play the EPS for SC2^^
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
July 25 2010 08:32 GMT
#7
Good read. The interview especially was nice, but the recap of all the games was great too.

Pretty amusing images too, I must say.
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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 08:35:57
July 25 2010 08:34 GMT
#8
wow idra hates huk so bad lol

nice writeup too bad tlo and whitera are out of the tournament

i lol'd at some of the pictures and lines
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 08:40:31
July 25 2010 08:38 GMT
#9
IdrA: Tester's by far the strongest, HuK the weakest. I think TLO's play in our match was hurt pretty significantly by the beta downtime, we played on the 2nd day back and I think he was still pretty rusty at that point. Tester played well, huk just tried to allin every game.

Tell it like it is idra! Wonder what he would say if he had to play dimaga though, lol


IdrA: Pretty much the same as in Brood War. Foreigners in large part play like HuK, they look for powerful killing builds because thats the easiest way to get wins, and in a lot of cases theyre incapable of playing competently when the game gets longer and requires more multitasking. This does get them wins, but it cripples them when everyone else figures out their style, or if they come out behind from the build orders.

LOL this guy spares no one. I always love Idra interviews
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Xunaka
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 08:43:34
July 25 2010 08:42 GMT
#10
Like IdrA or not, he makes a pretty valid point about the state of how most people on NA battle.net play. The most popular builds are often the easiest to win with, instead of developing an actual fluid opening, mid and late game.
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
July 25 2010 08:52 GMT
#11
Jay-Z and Nas lyrics ^^. I love you.

Contrary to popular opinion, I kinda want IdrA to win. I haven't felt much "connection" with the other three as I do with IdrA. Plus you've got to love a good villain.
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
July 25 2010 08:52 GMT
#12
Nice read. One thing though:

The games of Day 4 and Day 5 both have Tester vs TLO at the top in the results where Day 4 should be Tester vs HuK according to the report for that day.
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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
July 25 2010 08:52 GMT
#13
OH man I knew it!

IdrA: Well the Tester series was pretty bad, I'd never run in to that particular cannon rush before but I'm still not entirely sure how to counter it if you start with a 14 pool or later, then the scrap game I thought he was warp gate all-ining and didn't see the collosus switch fast enough. I was really happy with the push break on metalopolis vs TLO, when I saw his army come out I definitely thought I was dead, but managed to just barely hold it off.


Someone tried to call me out on my statement about IdrA not scouting the robo bate early enough. Damn this just makes my day and I agree that tlo game was crazy.
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KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
July 25 2010 08:53 GMT
#14
I've just come to the realization I have no idea what QXC looks like.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11045 Posts
July 25 2010 08:54 GMT
#15
Excellent read. Liked both interviews. Best part of this writeup though was the heads up on oGs.

Gotta say.... QXC looks very intimidating.
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ColorsOfRainbow
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany354 Posts
July 25 2010 08:58 GMT
#16
I still wonder why Rainbow named himself NCYellow xD
If he play with this nick after realise there will be alot of missunderstandings and such things and he normaly doenst need that xD
Minzy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia387 Posts
July 25 2010 09:02 GMT
#17
great coverage post. IdrA pwnt HuK in that interview, haha
Huh...
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 09:04:24
July 25 2010 09:04 GMT
#18
On July 25 2010 17:53 KingFool wrote:
I've just come to the realization I have no idea what QXC looks like.


The artist's rendition got it all wrong. Here is a picture of qxc in his natural habitat:
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I can't reiterate how awesome game 2 of Tester vs. TLO was, and I can't believe I haven't seen Tester's play in SC2 before. Good stuff, and a great beginning to more exciting games to come.
Shron
Profile Joined March 2010
United States162 Posts
July 25 2010 09:05 GMT
#19
The link to TLO vs IdrA game 3 is missing. Nice write-up, excellent coverage.
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rlagksquf
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand153 Posts
July 25 2010 09:07 GMT
#20
IDRA AND TESTER FTW
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
July 25 2010 09:10 GMT
#21
Good read, can't wait for release.
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 25 2010 09:12 GMT
#22
Do we know how it was decided that QXC ranked above ITR? They both went 2-1 in matches and 4-2 in games.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
July 25 2010 09:13 GMT
#23
Really nice read !!
- cant wait for the game to come out. its so close.. :D
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 25 2010 09:15 GMT
#24
On July 25 2010 18:12 Bibbit wrote:
Do we know how it was decided that QXC ranked above ITR? They both went 2-1 in matches and 4-2 in games.


Head to head. QXC beat ITR so he goes above him.
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
July 25 2010 09:15 GMT
#25
Really nice read, especially the introduction to oGs and Idra's interview.
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Bambooca
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark49 Posts
July 25 2010 09:16 GMT
#26
Idra played like a beginner vs tester, and game 2 going 200 hydra army and not attacking? I bet he was nervous.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
July 25 2010 09:21 GMT
#27
awesome stuff! i want to see korean vs korean
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Bambooca
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark49 Posts
July 25 2010 09:24 GMT
#28
On July 25 2010 18:12 Bibbit wrote:
Do we know how it was decided that QXC ranked above ITR? They both went 2-1 in matches and 4-2 in games.


I think its their individual matches just like in most sports, when score is the same.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 25 2010 09:27 GMT
#29
Awesome read and it's crazy to know that the game's release is so close.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
July 25 2010 09:38 GMT
#30
Lol every time I see the word oGs I think of the swedish criminal underground organization Orginial Gangsters.Would be pretty badass if they had a gang war .
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Tresh
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina68 Posts
July 25 2010 10:07 GMT
#31
It's amazing how bad mannered idra looks ingame, and how well mannered he looks in the interview.

Great ending for a great beta, kudos to Day[9], and all the players involved. Great read too.
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thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1774 Posts
July 25 2010 10:10 GMT
#32
great read, cant wait for semi-finals and finals
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 10:23:58
July 25 2010 10:18 GMT
#33
On July 25 2010 17:38 SubtleArt wrote:
IdrA: Tester's by far the strongest, HuK the weakest. I think TLO's play in our match was hurt pretty significantly by the beta downtime, we played on the 2nd day back and I think he was still pretty rusty at that point. Tester played well, huk just tried to allin every game.

Tell it like it is idra! Wonder what he would say if he had to play dimaga though, lol


IdrA: Pretty much the same as in Brood War. Foreigners in large part play like HuK, they look for powerful killing builds because thats the easiest way to get wins, and in a lot of cases theyre incapable of playing competently when the game gets longer and requires more multitasking. This does get them wins, but it cripples them when everyone else figures out their style, or if they come out behind from the build orders.

LOL this guy spares no one. I always love Idra interviews


Well this is so true, have you ever played a foreign protoss? in BW and SC2 they go for all-in builds and cry imbalance when their 1base strat fails
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
July 25 2010 10:18 GMT
#34
Nice read. IdrA interviews are always fun to read. He's well-mannered yet doesn't hesitate to say what he's really thinking.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 25 2010 10:41 GMT
#35
how to counter the cannon containment? baneling bust. idra would've breached tester's front had he got banelings.
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serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 25 2010 10:58 GMT
#36
3 kors and idra
this should be good
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holyone
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal43 Posts
July 25 2010 10:58 GMT
#37
On the news at main page "King of the beta" is spelled "Kind of the beta".

now time to read
BlueSerenity
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom34 Posts
July 25 2010 10:59 GMT
#38
Brilliant article, thanks a lot. Can't wait for release =]
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
July 25 2010 11:02 GMT
#39
I guess IdrA won't be winning the "Kind of the Beta"
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
July 25 2010 11:02 GMT
#40
How about...

Poll: Idra vs QXC?

Idra wins (89)
 
55%

QXC wins (74)
 
45%

163 total votes

Your vote: Idra vs QXC?

(Vote): Idra wins
(Vote): QXC wins



Poll: Tester vs IntotheRainbow?

Tester wins (110)
 
77%

IntotheRainbow wins (32)
 
23%

142 total votes

Your vote: Tester vs IntotheRainbow?

(Vote): Tester wins
(Vote): IntotheRainbow wins



Poll: Overall winner?

Tester (84)
 
55%

Idra (29)
 
19%

QXC (21)
 
14%

IntotheRainbow (18)
 
12%

152 total votes

Your vote: Overall winner?

(Vote): Idra
(Vote): QXC
(Vote): Tester
(Vote): IntotheRainbow

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LeDuck
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany152 Posts
July 25 2010 11:09 GMT
#41
Wow they played those matches 2 days after phase 2 went up, that kinda sucks =/
Very interesting interview with IdrA, he had a lot of good points in there.
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Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
July 25 2010 11:15 GMT
#42
Very nice read! Loved both of the interviews, they were very interesting. Particularly Idra's take on the servers.

And let me tell you man, judging from that artist's depiction, I wouldn't want to meet Qxc in a dark alley.

Can't wait the semifinals/finals!
rexob
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden202 Posts
July 25 2010 11:27 GMT
#43
great read but (as an european i gueess) i really miss White-RA and TLO in the semi-/finals,
white-RA has been the protoss i've been following the most through the beta even if did make ALOT of mistakes in this turney and TLO? he just missed his ticket to the finals and he probably could've pull through group A with tester-"stats"
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 25 2010 12:04 GMT
#44
Go Go qxc.

Expected IdrA to spit on TLO some more (like on HuK).
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dolpiff
Profile Joined June 2010
France300 Posts
July 25 2010 12:07 GMT
#45
quality coverage there, thanks!
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 12:13:43
July 25 2010 12:12 GMT
#46
Idra-TLO series was epic good!!!!!
I feel sorry for TLO not making it to the finals, even with all those epic games!!!
good luck to Idra!!!
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
July 25 2010 12:18 GMT
#47
This tourney has been sick. Call me a fanboy, but TLO's games in particular have been ridiculous. His show vs Tester was really amazing, but there's a lot of other stuff that's worth catching as well. If you're considering watching these matches, stop considering and go watch them right now. Great games!
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Avokodo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
South Africa81 Posts
July 25 2010 12:20 GMT
#48
Awesome article GO QXC
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
July 25 2010 12:25 GMT
#49
Great interview with IdrA

Great player, and he says the truth in interviews, instead of holding back in order to please everyone.
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Goobus
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong587 Posts
July 25 2010 12:37 GMT
#50
I think its about time we started an official IdrA fan club. If he meets Tester in the finals, I really hope he can make the necessary adjustments to his play to get over the slump he's been in against Tester. I don't think he's ever taken a game off of Tester. Overall, he seems to be a bit intimidated by Tester, which is understandable, considering how beastly he is, but I think he should stand up and fight! He definitely has the necessary skills to beat Tester.
Brokengamer
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines116 Posts
July 25 2010 12:43 GMT
#51
On July 25 2010 18:07 rlagksquf wrote:
IDRA AND TESTER FTW


Let us hope this match-up isn't too one-sided as Tester reads Idra like a book...
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 12:47:40
July 25 2010 12:47 GMT
#52
I think QXC might just edge out Idra in the semi, he really knows how to exploit the home server advantage by forcing micro intensive battles, his marine vs marine play against ITR in game 2 was sublime.

Tester vs ITR is going to be really fascinating as well, these guys are on the same team so they probably know each other's game inside out. There's going to be so much going on in these games beneath the surface. Either way I think ITR will be Tester's biggest test, If he makes it to the final I would expect 2-0 since he has dominated Idra whenever they have met in the past, and QXC's TvP looked fairly shaky against WhiteRa in the earlier stages.

My pick: QXC 2-1 Idra, Tester 2-1 ITR. Tester 2-0 QXC in the final.

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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
July 25 2010 12:56 GMT
#53
Awesome article, awesome players, awesome people, awesome event.
So, why am I not home during the sc2 launch? :/
Horray for VODs.
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dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
July 25 2010 13:31 GMT
#54
On July 25 2010 18:07 Idra said:
Also most of the really skilled foreign RTS players aren't taking sc2 seriously yet, which really hurts non korean's performance overall.


At the same time, most of the really skilled korean RTS (BW) players arn't playing sc2 either. oGs is undefeated, and all made up of ex-bw players. If you got Flash or JD or people who have the mechanics and coaches and support they have now, they would stomp on everybody just like they do in WCG etc.
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Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 25 2010 13:37 GMT
#55
Tester: It ain't hard to tell, I excel, then prevail

hehe, that's gold.
Great post, thank you
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
July 25 2010 14:18 GMT
#56
good interview, thanks! That Tester vs TLO game was like the one match of SC2 that made me more optimistic for 1v1. And Idra's push break was also clutch.
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
July 25 2010 14:29 GMT
#57
nice write up and interview. thanks.

GO IdrA!!
Redx
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
July 25 2010 14:39 GMT
#58
Great read as always. Can't freaking wait for release damnnm
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
July 25 2010 14:50 GMT
#59
kim sung jae!!! I BELIEVE!!!
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
July 25 2010 14:55 GMT
#60
I like how Idra slays huk for all ins, when im pretty sure HuK did a forge expand in every series....And as far as I can tell Tester just all ins every single game, and when it gets to late game he is outmatched. At least thats what it looked like in the games i saw him play. He either. A. Cheesed, B. 4 Warpgate pushed. If that didnt work then he went into late game (once) where he got smashed by TLO. Frankly I think tester is much more of an all in player than HuK (at least in this tournament series)
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Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
July 25 2010 15:04 GMT
#61
TheLittleOne has genuinely nerdy face.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
July 25 2010 15:04 GMT
#62
lol, what kind of animal is QXC? Rabbit?
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ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
July 25 2010 15:11 GMT
#63
"IdrA: Tester's by far the strongest, HuK the weakest. I think TLO's play in our match was hurt pretty significantly by the beta downtime, we played on the 2nd day back and I think he was still pretty rusty at that point. Tester played well, huk just tried to allin every game."


Haha, soooo true. I thought IdrA didn't respect TLO but this showed otherwise, he actually gave an excuse for TLO's lose and obviously knows TLO isn't just another weak gamer. This just shows that IdrA is honest to the extreme, what he said about HuK is so true and I don't know why he was even in this tournament but w/e. GL in the finals I hope we see some sick games and either IdrA or QXC wins this thing.
Being weak is a choice.
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
July 25 2010 15:21 GMT
#64
Good read. I liked the player description under their picture, very amusing.
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Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
July 25 2010 15:32 GMT
#65
Omg, love the banners and quotes. Thanks for putting this together in a thread
()rain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany33 Posts
July 25 2010 15:35 GMT
#66
ja, pretty good read.
TLO and white-ra are out thats bad for europe but well... i cannot change it^^
though a pretty good turney
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Edso
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada112 Posts
July 25 2010 15:38 GMT
#67
On July 26 2010 00:04 MangoTango wrote:
lol, what kind of animal is QXC? Rabbit?

I want to say a chin chilla.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 25 2010 16:08 GMT
#68
Hmm, I always knew that qxc was a cute little bunny rabbit. Lol at Idra's interview though, he sure doesn't like huk =P
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 25 2010 16:37 GMT
#69
nice interviews, especially liked idra's.

pretty much hits the nail on the coffin about foreigners.
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Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 17:12:11
July 25 2010 17:11 GMT
#70
Pretty much the same as in Brood War. Foreigners in large part play like HuK, they look for powerful killing builds because thats the easiest way to get wins, and in a lot of cases theyre incapable of playing competently when the game gets longer and requires more multitasking. This does get them wins, but it cripples them when everyone else figures out their style, or if they come out behind from the build orders.


Idra's interviews always tell the truth. Koreans have great transitions into the late game and like in SC1 White-ra had great cheeses but also had clean follow throughs into the mid game if it fails. I'm sure HuK isn't bad in the late game simply at the level of player he is but it does not seem to hold up to top players so far. I'm sure he could improve on it eventually and remove this all-in notion people have of him
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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
July 25 2010 17:16 GMT
#71
Oh man I'm so pumped for the IntotheRainbow Vs Tester Semi. Gonna be amazing. I think Rainbow will win it though.
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 25 2010 17:26 GMT
#72
QXC has really surprised me. I think he needs some more experience, but he has great potential. I've seen him look so weak in some games, and then play way past his ability in others. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of this tourney.

To Idra: If you want to win, you're going to have to use more drop play. And get those ultras out 30 seconds faster. I know it leaves you weaker mid-game where the foreigners like to end it, but zerg is crap without T3 anyway once terran has tanks and toss has (enough) colossus. Corruptors just aren't enough against a toss that can macro, I'm afraid.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
July 25 2010 17:35 GMT
#73
Idra played really well against TLO and mixed things up. qxc was so strong except vs white ra
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
July 25 2010 17:49 GMT
#74
Very informative post. I also liked the interview with Idra. Well done!
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 25 2010 18:05 GMT
#75
great interiewss <3 idra
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 25 2010 18:13 GMT
#76
GO IDRA/QXC!!!!
GhostBusters
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
July 25 2010 18:31 GMT
#77
Ballers!
Yut, bellybuttons.
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
July 25 2010 18:33 GMT
#78
Looks like it's going to be awesome I can't wait!
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2010 18:33 GMT
#79
IT AINT HARD TO TELL!!! lololol. Nice caption.
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sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
July 25 2010 18:38 GMT
#80
Good to see Day9 was considering Nony. He was the only one that I thought should really be in it and wasn't...
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s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
July 25 2010 18:50 GMT
#81
I am stuck between wanting IdrA to win because he is my hero... And wanting him to lose in some ridiculous fashion to get some BM out of it...
Sunshine.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
July 25 2010 18:53 GMT
#82
Good read. Rooting for QXC to win it!
Life is Good.
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
July 25 2010 18:59 GMT
#83
Fitting lyrics, I thought they were called original Gangsters?
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 19:17:40
July 25 2010 19:17 GMT
#84
fuck that oGs will rule forever

you can't beat koreans

only nony has a chance at beating them
Nony is Bonjwa
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 25 2010 19:22 GMT
#85
On July 26 2010 04:17 Nal_rAwr wrote:
fuck that oGs will rule forever

you can't beat koreans

only nony has a chance at beating them


Too bad Nony has been too busy with RL. Hope he gets SRS BSNS when retail is out.
Xiran
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
July 25 2010 19:28 GMT
#86
Nice read and keep them coming
"My policy is to have no policy"- Abraham Lincoln
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 25 2010 19:29 GMT
#87
Lol, I like the caption under Idra's pic.
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IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
July 25 2010 19:35 GMT
#88
IdrA, get some respect for other players ffs.
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
July 25 2010 19:53 GMT
#89
Hahaha, the player quotes were awesome. Truly gangsters. ^_^
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
July 25 2010 20:02 GMT
#90
"I never went no where, but they sayin' Rainbow's back" ..... what a baller.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 20:19:08
July 25 2010 20:09 GMT
#91
On July 26 2010 04:35 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
IdrA, get some respect for other players ffs.


That's why idrA is awesome, real pros talk shit yo.

I really hope he wins :O Mostly because I'm a zerg player and I want zerg to win.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
July 25 2010 20:14 GMT
#92
interessing read, Tester hwating~ my prediction is that he'll be crowned king of the beta
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
July 25 2010 20:17 GMT
#93
Great write up. Pumped for the semis!
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 20:21:48
July 25 2010 20:20 GMT
#94
On July 26 2010 04:35 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
IdrA, get some respect for other players ffs.


IdrA is the Ron Artest of StarCraft, he throws your shoe off court and doesn't give a fuck

actually Artest just does shit for no reason
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 25 2010 20:28 GMT
#95
idra is amazing
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 25 2010 20:28 GMT
#96
Very interesting article. Go Tester !
o choro é livre
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
July 25 2010 20:37 GMT
#97
On July 26 2010 04:35 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
IdrA, get some respect for other players ffs.


He said Tester played extremely well.

I don't know what your definition of "respect" is...

He only gives it to people who he thinks deserve it, i.e. Tester.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
July 25 2010 20:37 GMT
#98
On July 26 2010 04:35 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
IdrA, get some respect for other players ffs.


IdrA gives respect when respect is due. He respects NonY a lot, for example.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 25 2010 21:02 GMT
#99
Game 2 of TLO and Tester was SICK. Even Dustin Browder mentioned it as a recent game which showed off everything SC2 had to offer. Game of the Beta imho.
Watched TLO vs idrA on Metalopolis live. Have to say when I saw the line of siege tanks with 4 thors support and idrA not on Hive tech I thought for sure that was game. Even though pure roach is the counter to mech play, never did I imagine he would have enough larva to devote to break that push. When idrA came out with 6 roaches at the end, couldn't believe it.
Excellent tourny so far and looking forward to more on the 27th!
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 25 2010 21:03 GMT
#100
On July 26 2010 00:38 Edso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 00:04 MangoTango wrote:
lol, what kind of animal is QXC? Rabbit?

I want to say a chin chilla.


No, a CHINchilla is definately Stats from KT
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
July 25 2010 21:06 GMT
#101
I keep re-watching all the games they are so good, and I like how The "starcraft" facebook page mentioned Day[9] king of beta and posted one game it was pretty epic.
The_Voidless
Profile Joined March 2010
United States184 Posts
July 25 2010 21:16 GMT
#102
I am a little disappointed that Thelittleone does not have an insane mustache.
If you're not first you're last.
vposud
Profile Joined April 2010
United States36 Posts
July 25 2010 21:16 GMT
#103
Nice interviews! Can't wait to see the rest of the tournament!!!
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 25 2010 21:35 GMT
#104
On July 26 2010 06:16 The_Voidless wrote:
I am a little disappointed that Thelittleone does not have an insane mustache.


Also, I want to point out that TLO looks significantly older than his age (20), or at least he does to me.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
July 25 2010 21:38 GMT
#105
IdrA can very often be extremely easy to dislike, but also often very hard to disagree with
phrexis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States12 Posts
July 25 2010 21:41 GMT
#106
Is Idra a one build wonder? He does the same thing, same build, same strat over and over. All the other high end gamers does many different build, many different strats.
hi
opl3sa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States27 Posts
July 25 2010 21:46 GMT
#107
QXC doesn't post his pictures because he's a fire burn victim
To err is human. To blame it on someone else is genius.
atuor
Profile Joined July 2010
United States82 Posts
July 25 2010 21:54 GMT
#108
I wonder what Masq would be considered if they are the "gangsters"?
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
July 25 2010 22:03 GMT
#109
Rooting for QXC.
GO GO GO QXC!!! :D
What are you tinkering about?
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
July 25 2010 22:13 GMT
#110
idra telling it like it is
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 25 2010 22:16 GMT
#111
On July 26 2010 06:41 phrexis wrote:
Is Idra a one build wonder? He does the same thing, same build, same strat over and over. All the other high end gamers does many different build, many different strats.


Is Flash a one build wonder? He does the same thing, same build, same strat over and over. (1rax FE with the occasional 14CC).
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 25 2010 22:18 GMT
#112
"married to the Game, but she broke her vows......Been to hell and back, i can show you vouchers"

Seems like someone likes the Lil' Wayne part in the Song NO LOve w/ eminem!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
opl3sa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States27 Posts
July 25 2010 22:24 GMT
#113
On July 26 2010 07:18 TheKing. wrote:
"married to the Game, but she broke her vows......Been to hell and back, i can show you vouchers"

Seems like someone likes the Lil' Wayne part in the Song NO LOve w/ eminem!


Oh man, teamliquid listens to little wayne.
my respect just -1

R
To err is human. To blame it on someone else is genius.
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
July 25 2010 22:36 GMT
#114
On July 26 2010 06:41 phrexis wrote:
Is Idra a one build wonder? He does the same thing, same build, same strat over and over. All the other high end gamers does many different build, many different strats.

Lmao, a strong standard is capable of beating any gimmicky strategy.
AngelusDeLetum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
July 25 2010 22:44 GMT
#115
On July 26 2010 06:41 phrexis wrote:
Is Idra a one build wonder? He does the same thing, same build, same strat over and over. All the other high end gamers does many different build, many different strats.


Dude are you serious? He might open the same almost everyone game but his unit composition is always dependent on what his opponent is doing, which is how you play zerg... His strategies are reactions and his success is macro and unit composition, super solid way to go with zerg...

RamenAmen23
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11 Posts
July 25 2010 22:47 GMT
#116
Qxc pic was great. I don't think Idra gave HuK the credit he deserves. He got one win off of everyone he played, which was rather impressive. Oh well. My bet's Tester wins the whole thing.
No, I don't need more pylons!
AngelusDeLetum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
July 25 2010 22:49 GMT
#117
In my opinion group A was much weaker than B, TLO would've made it through group A for sure...
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 25 2010 22:52 GMT
#118
On July 26 2010 07:24 opl3sa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2010 07:18 TheKing. wrote:
"married to the Game, but she broke her vows......Been to hell and back, i can show you vouchers"

Seems like someone likes the Lil' Wayne part in the Song NO LOve w/ eminem!


Oh man, teamliquid listens to little wayne.
my respect just -1

R


Not what i was thinking at all. I really like the diversity. I also think that the other quotes were from Jay-z and NAS but i am not entirely sure.

Any who.... Good luck IdrA. Take the win for the Zergs!!!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
July 25 2010 23:12 GMT
#119
I believe HuK took a game off tester whereas IdrA didnt...

Also Tester appears to have the cheesiest openers. Especially that 3 warpgate pylon spam push.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 25 2010 23:23 GMT
#120
lol, everyone here are just so amazing it's a shame TLO didn't make it tho
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
bds.soko
Profile Joined June 2010
United States40 Posts
July 25 2010 23:38 GMT
#121
On July 26 2010 06:46 opl3sa wrote:
QXC doesn't post his pictures because he's a fire burn victim


:O For reals?

Btw can anyone tell me why IntotheRainbow is listed as NCYellow?
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
July 25 2010 23:51 GMT
#122
Idra and TLO, kings of the beta.
We make signature, then defense it.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 26 2010 00:03 GMT
#123
Love the Nas quote. ILLMATIC
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
July 26 2010 00:42 GMT
#124
Great write up! The quotes were amazing as well.. I am glad idrA mentioned the fact they played right after beta came back up.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
July 26 2010 01:04 GMT
#125
I don't understand how idrA is such a baby in game, but in interviews handles himself so well. If he acted like that in game I might respect him more. I expect Tester too handle this tourney quite easily, but i'd like too see a Into the Rainbow upset! :D.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
July 26 2010 01:06 GMT
#126
On July 26 2010 07:18 TheKing. wrote:
"married to the Game, but she broke her vows......Been to hell and back, i can show you vouchers"

Seems like someone likes the Lil' Wayne part in the Song NO LOve w/ eminem!


LOL i thought i was the only one that knew that. Everyone was saying Jay-Z song lyrics, but thats the one i picked up first! Great song too.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 26 2010 01:37 GMT
#127
On July 26 2010 07:49 AngelusDeLetum wrote:
In my opinion group A was much weaker than B, TLO would've made it through group A for sure...


Eh, I dunno. But, I wish TLO would've played all his games like he played game 2 vs tester. Then he definitely would've advanced.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
July 26 2010 01:47 GMT
#128
Great read! HUK FTW GOGO!
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 26 2010 01:50 GMT
#129
Awesome reading - this tournament has been and will continue to be amazing.

will the vods go up on youtube?
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Geniuszerg
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada454 Posts
July 26 2010 01:57 GMT
#130
nice interview w/ day9
Xunaka
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
July 26 2010 03:24 GMT
#131
On July 26 2010 10:50 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Awesome reading - this tournament has been and will continue to be amazing.

will the vods go up on youtube?



All of day[9]s vods are usually on his blip.tv
it's day9tv.blip.tv the player works pretty well and is very good quality.. just has a few issues with skipping ahead and back sometimes.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 26 2010 04:09 GMT
#132

As far as other players that everyone should know about: The folks on oGs, other than IntoTheRainbow, Tester, like Ensare, the guys on the Prime team like Check and Maka. From Europe Sweeden, Haypro, Morrow, Jinro. The EG guys from America. Nony.

its strange how some nations in Europe have a super stron lineup as Ukraine or Sweeden, while others barely have a name or two to put out
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:19:50
July 26 2010 04:19 GMT
#133
On July 26 2010 08:38 bds.soko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 06:46 opl3sa wrote:
QXC doesn't post his pictures because he's a fire burn victim


:O For reals?

Btw can anyone tell me why IntotheRainbow is listed as NCYellow?


There is a photo of qxc in a recent youtube interview:
about half way through
Thank God and gunrun.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
July 26 2010 04:25 GMT
#134
Thanks for the writeup, nice interviews
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
fourzerofour
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
July 26 2010 04:48 GMT
#135
On July 26 2010 08:38 bds.soko wrote:

Btw can anyone tell me why IntotheRainbow is listed as NCYellow?


Yeah, I think it is a typo
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 26 2010 06:09 GMT
#136
He is listed as NCYellow because that is the name he has been using for all tournaments. He doesn't go by the ID Rainbow (or didn't during beta at least).
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 26 2010 09:49 GMT
#137
I saw people asking for qxc's photo, and well, he has a stream: http://www.ustream.tv/user/qxc00
[image loading]
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 10:36:19
July 26 2010 10:32 GMT
#138
On July 26 2010 00:11 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
"IdrA: Tester's by far the strongest, HuK the weakest. I think TLO's play in our match was hurt pretty significantly by the beta downtime, we played on the 2nd day back and I think he was still pretty rusty at that point. Tester played well, huk just tried to allin every game."


Haha, soooo true. I thought IdrA didn't respect TLO but this showed otherwise, he actually gave an excuse for TLO's lose and obviously knows TLO isn't just another weak gamer. This just shows that IdrA is honest to the extreme, what he said about HuK is so true and I don't know why he was even in this tournament but w/e. GL in the finals I hope we see some sick games and either IdrA or QXC wins this thing.


Well he is considered to be the best North American Protoss (he was ranked highest on the North American servers at least I think). For this KotB, they wanted equal representation for not only races, but regions of the world as well. Idra, QXC, and Huk represent North America (Zerg, Terran, Protoss, respectively), ITR and Tester represent Asia (Terran and Protoss, sad they couldn't get Sen), and White-rA, TLO, and Dimaga (again, Protoss, Terran, Zerg) for Europe.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
July 26 2010 12:06 GMT
#139
I'm a huge QXC fan now. ^_^
And I like Idra a little more after this interview- HuK grilling was pretty funny.
As always, a big thanks to Mr Day[9]!
To Death we shall all go.
viscral
Profile Joined February 2010
United States45 Posts
July 26 2010 12:19 GMT
#140
Go Idra!!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 26 2010 14:40 GMT
#141
oGs is going to dominate for a while =/

Good write up, go Tester!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
July 26 2010 14:49 GMT
#142
garimto isnt a mym member?
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
July 26 2010 17:43 GMT
#143
On July 25 2010 17:42 Xunaka wrote:
Like IdrA or not, he makes a pretty valid point about the state of how most people on NA battle.net play. The most popular builds are often the easiest to win with, instead of developing an actual fluid opening, mid and late game.


Seeing players who play like this has always irked me and I really cannot approve of anyone who simply does all-ins or cheese rushes every game. Players really need to stop focusing on PURELY the win, yes your goal should be to win, but you should never, never sacrifice skilled and correct play in an attempt to do so. This isn't to say all-ins and cheese rushes don't have their uses if you SURPRISE the opponent with them, but if a player makes this their core style, they will firmly be stuck in Silver or possibly Gold league and never advance beyond this point.
i-bonjwa
Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
July 26 2010 18:55 GMT
#144
I sincerely hope that Idra gets beaten in the first game and that we will see TLO and Tester in the finals (if that is possible with the brackets).

BM deserves no wins.
Errare humanum est, ignoscere divinum
Stimpk
Profile Joined July 2010
France165 Posts
July 26 2010 19:08 GMT
#145
On July 27 2010 03:55 Believer wrote:
I sincerely hope that Idra gets beaten in the first game and that we will see TLO and Tester in the finals (if that is possible with the brackets).

BM deserves no wins.


Idra has not shown bm in this tournament. Moreover, TLO can't get to the finals at this stage.
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
July 26 2010 19:09 GMT
#146
On July 27 2010 03:55 Believer wrote:
I sincerely hope that Idra gets beaten in the first game and that we will see TLO and Tester in the finals (if that is possible with the brackets).

BM deserves no wins.


As much as I want to see TLO in the finals too he's been eliminated. Your dark horse candidate now is QXC and since he's following in Day[9]'s footsteps at Harvey Mudd I'm hoping he can shine.
raph
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
July 26 2010 19:10 GMT
#147
i think, if we aren't already seeing it, that TLO's "creative" play-style is going to start to wither away and he is going to have to play more traditionally now.
Stimpk
Profile Joined July 2010
France165 Posts
July 26 2010 19:40 GMT
#148
Why do some zerg player use their expand hatchery to make a lair ? Isn'it more safe to morph the main ?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 26 2010 19:58 GMT
#149
On July 27 2010 04:40 Stimpk wrote:
Why do some zerg player use their expand hatchery to make a lair ? Isn'it more safe to morph the main ?


It makes their natural harder to break (has more HP)
Stimpk
Profile Joined July 2010
France165 Posts
July 26 2010 20:06 GMT
#150
On July 27 2010 04:58 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 04:40 Stimpk wrote:
Why do some zerg player use their expand hatchery to make a lair ? Isn'it more safe to morph the main ?


It makes their natural harder to break (has more HP)


Thanks Idra's #1 fan
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
July 26 2010 22:17 GMT
#151
go tester!
OmniscientSC2
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 22:44:57
July 26 2010 22:44 GMT
#152
Hahaha! Huk and Tester have the best captions by far!
"Did you know about Day and the Wicker Basket?" - Harem "Hi, I'm from Texas." -TLO
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
July 27 2010 01:25 GMT
#153
On July 27 2010 03:55 Believer wrote:
I sincerely hope that Idra gets beaten in the first game and that we will see TLO and Tester in the finals (if that is possible with the brackets).

BM deserves no wins.


I seriously thought people would understand Idra by now.

It is not BM.
We make signature, then defense it.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
July 27 2010 01:51 GMT
#154
On July 26 2010 06:54 atuor wrote:
I wonder what Masq would be considered if they are the "gangsters"?


The Don ;p
EnvoYofAiuR
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands71 Posts
July 27 2010 10:45 GMT
#155
gg idra
Conquer, but dont triumph
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 27 2010 10:52 GMT
#156
Idra won. :D
maru lover forever
Grrbrr.404
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany91 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 10:53:35
July 27 2010 10:52 GMT
#157
humble gets very much respect today!
Rax needs depot - worst change ever. Why dosnt pool need 2 overlords?
ReillyC
Profile Joined July 2010
United States4 Posts
July 27 2010 19:03 GMT
#158
So sad to have missed this event. I still have my ticket printout rotting away in my wallet, but I got called into overtime last minute and had watch the stream instead. Great games from all players I actually tuned in for all of the matches even after my SC2 copy was installed and patched. Well played games and a great stream full of passion and excitement.
ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
July 28 2010 09:00 GMT
#159
Is there a reason that the semi-finals and finals are being withheld? I might have watched them on the stream if A) I hadn't gotten SC2 already and was busy installing/playing. B) There was any schedule in plain sight.

But seriously, why has there been a significant delay in any of the vods being posted?
Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered.
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
July 29 2010 10:30 GMT
#160
9h of footage to encode and then to upload. Compare with the daylies that are 1h long and are on blip.tv 24h later, I'm not expecting the whole 9h on blip.tv soon ( maybe some parts )
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