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[SC2B] TL:I US - Get Ready

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[SC2B] TL:I US - Get Ready

Text byKennigit
May 8th, 2010 14:30 GMT


UPDATE: You can keep up to date with the rest of the bracket in this thread

TLI:US is over! VODs are up!.
http://www.youtube.com/user/nevake#grid/user/386F2935E0EF2A97




Intrepid reporters, Brood and Saracens, had a chance to site down with some of the participants in today's Teamliquid Invitational: US Edition. Each provides a little insight into their expectations for the event and what they are doing to prepare. Kick back and whet your appetite for the epicness that is about to unfold.

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Saturday, May 08 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


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>> More Information <<


The event goes live today at 2pm Eastern and will be casted by djWheat and TL's own Chill! Stream links will be provided on the right sidebar side of TL.


Interviews


Now as promised, let's see what some of the players have to say!


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TL: Overall, how are you feeling about your chances coming into this tournament?

Day[9]: I actually feel probably less good about playing Artosis, but more comfortable playing Incontrol or slush second round. To be honest, this week is the first week I actually get to sit down and play a lot. I thought it was going to be much earlier, but I spent about 30 hours trying to get all my new computer equipment to function.

I feel ok, but I'd probably flip a coin on me verse Artosis. I really think that when I practice I'm really comfortable at learning stuff and working kinks out. I also don't get nervous in tournaments, so that helps quite a bit, but Artosis is good, so that can only do so much.

TL: How do you think the difference in game styles on the Asia server is going to affect you in that matchup?

Day[9]: I downloaded a lot of replays from the Asia server, and the general trend that you see is just outrageous aggression, especially with zerg. They'll early expand and get two queens, but only have like six drones at their expansion as they try to just batter you down with speedlings and then roaches, a slow forward tech but a lot of aggression. You don't see that much on the American servers.

TL: How do you feel about your gauge of the strengths or weaknesses of the players in the tournament?

Day[9]: I'm going to speak in outrageous generalities. It's an interesting mix; I've played with many of the players on here. I actually met qxc a few days ago, and we played some games and he trashed me pretty hard. I think CauthonLuck is the best player in this tournament. Honestly, I think he is just out of control, on another level, and it's great because I get to cast him in the MLG showmatch things, and I get to just steal all his builds, and I have the replays!

I'm not gonna lie, as a commentator, I get the replays of all these events with the knowledge that they're never going to be released. That's the payment I receive for casting. I don't know too much about HuK, I've only played one game with slush way back, but other than that I'm pretty familiar with the rest of the gamers out there.

TL: Do you think doing something like your Day[9] Dailies makes your thought process more transparent to your opponents?

Day[9]: No. I've never really been that threatened by that idea. To be honest, they help me a ton. It's one thing to re-watch your replays and x3 it and just go yeah blah blah done, let me go back to playing. When I'm trying to really slowly articulate stuff, I occasionally say, "Wow, so that's true." This actually happened when I did NonY's phoenix games. I was just trying to blab on, to do things slowly, and there were a few things I noticed that I wouldn't have caught sight of normally because I was watching on fast speed and not x6. It really speeds up the learning process. I kind of cheat in that regard.

I definitely think it's far overrated, the idea of getting someone's replays and trying to get into someone's head and figure out what's in there. Really, you should be trying to figure out what the race is capable of, and then battling against those possibilities.

TL: Which, if any, of the recent balances changes will have a significant effect on the games?

Day[9]: I suppose the biggest one would be the neural parasite, for the Thors. It just works like permanently. I wish you could just shoot the tentacles. I suppose the immortal getting slowed a bit, but I don't think there's any bullshit strategy that I used as my linch-pin.

Infact, any time I found one of those strategies in practice where it was like, "Wow, this is really really good and I can't figure out how to stop it," I would not do that strategy. I would assume that everyone else would go and do it, so there was no reason for me to focus to much on it. First of all, it might get patched, and second of all I want to try to figure out a more stable method of play. For instance, the four warpgate immortal push. Everyone and his grandpa was doing that the first few weeks of beta, and I pretty much steered clear of that because you try it twice and you have the timing down perfectly. There's nothing else to learn. Yeah, you can win a bunch of games, but why just do that? I was trying to figure out ways to make the games extend longer, and just always have that idea in my pocket.

TL: Do you have any final thoughts for the audience out there?

Day[9]: I hope my brother beats white-ra in the HDH Invitational, because he beat me, but now that he's in this tournament I hope we meet in the grand final and I get revenge!

For WCGs and tournaments in BW, I was always shooting for first place. Here, I'm just shooting to win a game. I've just had a brutal last two weeks of the semester, so I'm just intentionally not putting pressure on myself to immediately jump out of a hellish end of the year, straight into being the best Starcraft 2 player possible. I don't think I'm physically capable of that.
I'm just gonna try to take it easy, try to kill Artosis a little bit, and then go back to casting all the games. In between my games, I'm going to be casting all the other rounds. Front row seats, baby!




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TL: How are you feeling about the upcoming TLI?

Artosis: I'm feeling quite good about it. If I can survive the early game during this tournament, I feel I can definitely win it.

TL: Your first opponent is Team Liquid celebrity Day[9], who plays random. What are your thoughts about playing against random as well as the coming match?

Artosis: Well, as a zerg player I realy hate to play against random. Zerg is very susceptible to cheese, and you need to prepare differently for it vs different races. Also, players who play as Random (I did for a very long time at the beginning of the beta) tend to be very strong at aggression in the early game, from playing mass games on both sides of the matchup. Random players tend to not know what to do late game so well due to having gotten there far less times (its just math ), so if I make it past the initial rushes without a lot of damage I should be able to win easily. BUT, that being said, DAy9 and I have a long long long history together, and historically he is the one person in USA who really always had my number. Long story short: I expect to win but it could be quite a stressful match.

TL: You played Terran in Broodwar. Why did you decide to switch to Zerg for Starcraft 2?

Artosis: I really hate TvP in this game. Its completely broken, has been from day 2 or 3. Also, I feel that Zerg has the highest skill cap, you can always be doing something very useful to improve your standing in the game. That's the type of race I like to play, one where I can always push myself.

TL: Being the closest in proximity to IdrA at the moment, do you have any comments about his absence?

Artosis: There are 2 reasons. First, the lag and latency on the US and EU servers are completely garbage for us while living in Korea. Its so frustrating to play knowing your opponent has a huge advantage on micro for the entire game, especially when you consider we both enjoy to play a macro based style where we have to defend lots of cheesey play. Second, its at the ungodly hour of 3am in the morning for us. I can take naps and rest to make up for this, while he is on a very strict schedule on CJ Entus, and cannot do this. Its a good choice by him to turn down this event.

TL: If you could avoid facing anyone in this tournament, who would it be and why?

Artosis: I guess that player might be Attero. I really don't know anything about this guy, and he's random.

TL: What are your thoughts on the maps released so far?

Artosis: Incineration Zone and Kulas Ravine are perhaps the worst maps I've ever seen. They are both completely imbalanced. The rest, aside from Desert Oasis (which has already been removed from this tournament) seem to be alright so far.

TL: What do you think about all of the matchups? Are there any that are particularly fun to play, or that you feel are stronger than the others?

Artosis: I don't really care to play ZvZ, it becomes boring pretty fast. Zerg vs Terran is by far the most complex matchup in the game, and while I find it very frustrating, I have great fun playing it as well. Zerg vs Protoss can be really, really fun vs a good Protoss as well, but 99.9% of the Protosses on all the ladders are just cheesing allin newbies.

TL: What do you think of the design of the Zerg race in Starcraft 2? Are there any changes you would like to see?

Artosis: I'd like to see hive tech be more worth it. Ultras are completely garbage right now, and it seems the only reason to go to hive is to get the 3rd roach upgrade and broodlords.

TL: What are your favorite and least favorite units in Starcraft 2 and why?

Artosis: My favorite unit is the Infestor. Its so fun to use, and I feel like when I really get down exactly how and when to use what spells, it will be a ridiculously good spellcaster. My least favorite unit is the Reaper. Totally ridiculous unit. Causes me lots of headaches.




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TL: How are you feeling about the upcoming TLI?

Slush: I think it's really great, with the prize pool and the roster it will be exciting! The community will be well served with a lot of good matchups right of RO16. I'm sure TL will be well prepared for this event.

TL: Your first opponent is iNcontroL, whom you narrowly lost to in an intense game on Blistering Sands in the USA vs Canada 2 showmatch. What do you think of your opponent, and your overall chances?

Slush: Every members of team EG are VERY good manner and they are doing so much for the community, iNcontroL is no exception. He has a different style than what i'm used to practice to it will be fun and entertaining for the community i think.

TL: You are a part of Root Gaming, which is one of the top Starcraft 2 teams at the moment. How did this team come about, and how did you become a part of it?

Slush: I'm really gonna give credit here to warturtle and other admins who have made Teams tournament. With these tournaments, people have made teams and some rivalries begun. Root invited me in after two succesful triple strike cup for Team Quebec.

TL: You have been performing extraordinarily well in recent showmatches and tournaments such as the Triple Strike Cup, and, most recently, beating out White-Ra in the GosuCoaching showdown. So, you will face one of the top European Terrans DeMusliM in a highly anticipated BO9 this Saturday. What are your thoughts?

Slush: These showmatches are really great, it gives me an oppotunity to play vs top euro gamers. Since it's a best of 9 it gives a lot of good matches for people to watch. DeMusliM had a really succesful beta so far and im really looking forward to see his play style.

TL: If you could avoid facing anyone in this tournament, who would it be and why?

Slush: It would be qxc/cauthonluck. Since we're all brothers in root it's like if day9/tasteless play each other.

TL: What are your thoughts on the maps released so far?

Slush: Really good question, I know that blizzard try to make different maps as much as possible for 1v1, but i really hope we're gonna see some pro maps soon. We need more terrain diversity for exemple: the bushes in LT/Kulas etc, They are good but i really want blizzard to try and make them more dense, so that you can literaly ambush an army in the bushes. Right now they are almost useless, they only block visions and they are at some akward spots.

TL: What do you think about all of the matchups? Are there any that are particularly fun to play, or that you feel are stronger than the others?

Slush: I think zerg is strong because the mechanics are almost the same as broodwar, so korean would have an easy time being good with them. I think with the time, toss and terrans will become better when they figure out timings and optimized strategies.

TL: What do you think of the design of the Zerg race in Starcraft 2? Are there any changes you would like to see?

Slush: Yes, it's too macro oriented, theres not enough abilities that a unit can do. If you take protoss for exemple, almost every single unit has an ability, blink, forcefield, charge, attack while invis, gravity beams, etc. while zerg it's potition and attack move.

TL: What are your favorite and least favorite units in Starcraft 2 and why?

Slush: I don't like roaches/marauders/Immortals, I don't think a unit should be a tank AND a ranged unit at the same time. Immortals could be fine but roaches and marauders are too massable. My favorite units are banelings, i don't really use them but it adds action to the show Oh and Terran really need spidermines, I would replace the ignite upgrade with spider mines so that siege tanks would actually be useful.

TL: Thanks for your time, and best of luck in the tournament!

Slush: Thanks! Shoutout to the root members, <3 you guys !




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TL: Your first opponent is Louder, who was also a top American player in Starcraft Broodwar, but who is now playing Terran. What do you predict the outcome will be?

Machine: Louder is a very hard opponent, I predict 2-1 for me but close games.

TL: In the most recent USA vs Canada showmatch, you were Team USA's MVP, beating Drewbie in set 6 when the USA was down 2-3, and then winning the Ace match against KiWiKaKi. Do you have any comments on how competitive the Starcraft 2 scene is compared to what you're used to?

Machine: I think the starcraft 2 scene in general is a lot less competitive so far, starcraft one foreigners are skating by with just having better overall mechanic's than their opponent's. In starcraft one showmatches I practiced on average 200 games before every single event but recently I have not been practicing much at all.

TL: Starcraft 2 is gathering a number of people from diverse gaming backgrounds. As a top American player on the USA A team in Starcraft Broodwar, how do you think gamers from other backgrounds, such as Warcraft 3 and Counter Strike, stack up?

Machine: I think that the other top gamers from other games have the dedication it takes to become top players but lack the overall mechanical advantage that starcraft one has given us.

TL: What do you think of the skill curve in Starcraft 2? Is there enough to separate the cream of the crop from the above-average gamers?

Machine: Well as far as the ladder goes, platinum is a joke. It is very hard to determine skill levels because I do not practice very often and when I do it is with a select few people.

TL: If you could avoid facing anyone in this tournament, who would it be and why?

Machine: LzGaMeR because he smells.

TL: What are your thoughts on the maps released so far?

Machine: I don't know the new maps.

TL: What do you think about all the matchups? Are there any that are particularly fun to play, or that you feel are stronger than the others?

Machine: Protoss is fun to play because it is the only race that requires any real micro. Zerg seems very strong.

TL: What do you think of the design of the Zerg race in Starcraft 2? Are there any changes you would like to see?

Machine: I want to see scourges or a use for ultralisks.

TL: What are your favorite and least favorite units in Starcraft 2 and why?

Machine: My favorite unit would have to be the sentry with the forcefield, because it is such a fun and effective unit. I really would like ultralisks to be changed somehow so they are usefull.


Well, that's all for now, but the clock is ticking and you can be sure we'll be back soon with live Starcraft 2 at its finest. Tune in, or miss out - it's your call!

This post was made by the Team Liquid Starcraft 2 Coverage Team. For more of TL's coverage, please visit the Team Liquid Starcraft 2 Beta Page.
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ReactoR
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Sweden72 Posts
May 08 2010 14:48 GMT
#2
gl to all players. I will defo tune in!
Infernus
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Norway222 Posts
May 08 2010 14:50 GMT
#3
Cool interview, Im getting excited!
sup ;o
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Finland753 Posts
May 08 2010 14:56 GMT
#4
Completely agree with Artosis about incineration zone. Cool interviews.
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PUMPEDDD
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Italy172 Posts
May 08 2010 15:01 GMT
#6
ahah artosis complaining all over the place
you gotta love him ^__^
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May 08 2010 15:07 GMT
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gl to all
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Israel6248 Posts
May 08 2010 15:07 GMT
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On May 09 2010 00:01 .AbrHAm wrote:
ahah artosis complaining all over the place
you gotta love him ^__^

no you dont
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United States783 Posts
May 08 2010 15:09 GMT
#9
Yeah, Machine!!! GL Buddy!
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Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2010 15:22 GMT
#10
Cannot wait!
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Sweden455 Posts
May 08 2010 15:32 GMT
#11
Gl every one, but well we all know Day9 will take it!
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United States2928 Posts
May 08 2010 15:35 GMT
#12
Ah I wanted to hear what Huk had to say XD
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USA29055 Posts
May 08 2010 15:52 GMT
#13
nice interviews

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Denmark381 Posts
May 08 2010 16:07 GMT
#14
god cant wait for this :D

nice interveiws!
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Norway393 Posts
May 08 2010 16:09 GMT
#15
nice interviews

Cant wait for the event!
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Lithuania26 Posts
May 08 2010 16:27 GMT
#16
its 6:27 cet why its written at 7cet, and still 1h33min left?
dear
Count9
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China10928 Posts
May 08 2010 16:28 GMT
#17
Lol Machine's interview is awesome, sounds like a mindtrick though >.>
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Norway466 Posts
May 08 2010 16:36 GMT
#18
On May 08 2010 23:30 Kennigit wrote:
TL: If you could avoid facing anyone in this tournament, who would it be and why?

Machine: LzGaMeR because he smells.

I guess that's a good reason as any.
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Canada2628 Posts
May 08 2010 16:40 GMT
#19
This will be an epic tournament! Good luck to all but I have to say it...
Go SLush!
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Canada566 Posts
May 08 2010 16:48 GMT
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go Machine!
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
May 08 2010 16:49 GMT
#21
but why making the same question to all of them? what do u think about Zerg in sC2?
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Norway1060 Posts
May 08 2010 16:51 GMT
#22
nice read those interviews
really?
ScorpionX
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France12 Posts
May 08 2010 16:53 GMT
#23
what is the link to chill's stream ?
Sansucal
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Germany259 Posts
May 08 2010 17:07 GMT
#24
stream link gogo its 07:07 pm
CursOr
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United States6335 Posts
May 08 2010 17:12 GMT
#25
This is where working on Saturday really fuckin' sucks the big lemons
I'm hoping to see iNcontrol, Louder and Day[9] (of course cause I'm another huge fanboy) to all go far.
Goodluck Guys! Hope to hear good about Artosis too
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KwarK
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United States42258 Posts
May 08 2010 17:18 GMT
#26
On May 09 2010 02:07 Sansucal wrote:
stream link gogo its 07:07 pm

Yeah, best I can tell they got that wrong because 2pm EST does not equal 7pm CET.
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Darpa
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Canada4413 Posts
May 08 2010 17:21 GMT
#27
I would like to hear interviews with people who have something positive and/or interesting to say rather than whining about maps and units during their interviews.
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Canada19447 Posts
May 08 2010 17:23 GMT
#28
Fixed time (lol)
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United States1632 Posts
May 08 2010 17:49 GMT
#29
what are the matches that will be streamed?
KwarK
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United States42258 Posts
May 08 2010 17:50 GMT
#30
Artosis vs Day9
Winner of Louder/Machine vs winner of qxc/Nony
Both semifinals
Final
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ghermination
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United States2851 Posts
May 08 2010 17:52 GMT
#31
This is going to be an exciting tournament but i wouldn't be surprised to see nony just dominate it.
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United States21060 Posts
May 08 2010 17:58 GMT
#32
There are lots of good players in this tournament, I wouldn't predict auto-wins so fast
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Canada1841 Posts
May 08 2010 18:00 GMT
#33
What is the stream link??????
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Jyvblamo
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Canada13788 Posts
May 08 2010 18:03 GMT
#34
On May 09 2010 03:00 Darkren wrote:
What is the stream link??????

Look under the calendar.
Xxio
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Canada5565 Posts
May 08 2010 18:07 GMT
#35
race picking, especially doing so at the last minute, but even in general, sounds really, really cheap.
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Bosu
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United States3247 Posts
May 08 2010 18:10 GMT
#36
I don't have a problem with race picking. Players should probably request it early and have it be announced.
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United States17077 Posts
May 08 2010 18:13 GMT
#37
Wow that's some dark creep
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Canada1527 Posts
May 08 2010 18:14 GMT
#38
On May 09 2010 03:07 Xxio wrote:
race picking, especially doing so at the last minute, but even in general, sounds really, really cheap.

But doesn't the loading screen lets players know what race was picked?
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HazMat
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United States17077 Posts
May 08 2010 18:26 GMT
#39
On May 09 2010 03:14 roronoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 03:07 Xxio wrote:
race picking, especially doing so at the last minute, but even in general, sounds really, really cheap.

But doesn't the loading screen lets players know what race was picked?

He means, Day9 'said' he was going random but picked a race at the last minute. Artosis practiced vs Random when he could have practiced vs Terran if Day9 would've said what race he would play.
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Count9
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China10928 Posts
May 08 2010 18:27 GMT
#40
On May 09 2010 03:07 Xxio wrote:
race picking, especially doing so at the last minute, but even in general, sounds really, really cheap.

From the interview seems like artosis would rather day9 pick a race than random.
Cheezy
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Sweden112 Posts
May 08 2010 18:27 GMT
#41
Is there a low-bitrate stream of this somewhere? My net is too shitty to watch a decent-quality livestream :/
MoooN1
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Germany128 Posts
May 08 2010 18:27 GMT
#42
isnt it possible that the next time some guy with a really nice internetconnection could steam so we could enjoy a better stream quality ? any maybe ultra details...
Emon_
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3925 Posts
May 08 2010 18:29 GMT
#43
Dudes, the screen is black
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Leoj
Profile Joined January 2010
United States396 Posts
May 08 2010 18:30 GMT
#44
On May 09 2010 03:27 MoooN1 wrote:
isnt it possible that the next time some guy with a really nice internetconnection could steam so we could enjoy a better stream quality ? any maybe ultra details...


Looks plenty fine to me I'm not sure what you're complaining about.
MoooN1
Profile Joined December 2007
Germany128 Posts
May 08 2010 18:34 GMT
#45
maybe im just to much used to hd at the moment :D
Leoj
Profile Joined January 2010
United States396 Posts
May 08 2010 18:45 GMT
#46
day9 doin work holy crap
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
May 08 2010 18:49 GMT
#47
Does anyone know if the casts are going to be up as VODs later?
Gnizz
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Germany44 Posts
May 08 2010 18:50 GMT
#48
wouldnt know why not, every liquibiton/tsl cast was put up as a vod later
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2010 19:11 GMT
#49
stream so damn laggy and goes down alot
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
May 08 2010 19:11 GMT
#50
stream crashed?
Wintermute
Profile Joined March 2010
United States427 Posts
May 08 2010 19:12 GMT
#51
If some one were to actually create some software and a web site that could stream reliably, they could probably corner the damn market. Ustream and livestream are both so bad.
Don't let me say this, but you're no worse than me; it's crazy.
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
May 08 2010 19:12 GMT
#52
damn crashes
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 08 2010 19:13 GMT
#53
what happened to the second game?
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
May 08 2010 19:13 GMT
#54
Stream down =(
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
pm_squad
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico180 Posts
May 08 2010 19:14 GMT
#55
Dam that 3rd game was going so freaking intense and now the stream is down. I definitely will have to watch the VOD to see what happened.
yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
May 08 2010 19:15 GMT
#56
lol echoechochohoooo
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
May 08 2010 19:20 GMT
#57
+ Show Spoiler +
gg artosis
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
May 08 2010 19:21 GMT
#58
"gg boretosis" rofl

really nice series
Dankmids
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States316 Posts
May 08 2010 19:23 GMT
#59
Those were some great games!
"Alright, Lets poop out a daily" Day9- Daily #203
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
May 08 2010 19:27 GMT
#60
will the chat be back?
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 19:29:04
May 08 2010 19:28 GMT
#61
Awesome interview by Machine :|
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
May 08 2010 19:31 GMT
#62
Artosis interview reminds me of someone.....

cough *idra* cough
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2010 19:39 GMT
#63
Lag spike every 8-10 seconds.. sooo frustrating to watch
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
May 08 2010 19:41 GMT
#64
horrible stream ...
kind of useless to watch when every 20~30sec a lag appears
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
May 08 2010 19:55 GMT
#65
Woot, I'm interested to see how things play out after the last patch. Should be some fun matches.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 08 2010 20:00 GMT
#66
--- Nuked ---
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
May 08 2010 20:00 GMT
#67
Streams been perfect for me for the most part! Good stuff so far and great casting!
Bang!
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
May 08 2010 20:08 GMT
#68
Aw man, I would like it if they switched to the bottom half of the group now that qxc and Louder has played out. Wanna watch some of CauthonLucks or Huks games.
Dukat
Profile Joined April 2009
United States235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 20:12:36
May 08 2010 20:11 GMT
#69
Is there an updated ladder somewhere?

Edit: Never mind, I'm a noob and overlooked the spoiler warnings.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2010 20:12 GMT
#70
On May 09 2010 05:08 Crissaegrim wrote:
Aw man, I would like it if they switched to the bottom half of the group now that qxc and Louder has played out. Wanna watch some of CauthonLucks or Huks games.

Every match from here on out will be casted.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2010 20:12 GMT
#71
On May 09 2010 05:11 Dukat wrote:
Is there an updated ladder somewhere?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124258
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
May 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#72
On May 09 2010 05:12 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 05:08 Crissaegrim wrote:
Aw man, I would like it if they switched to the bottom half of the group now that qxc and Louder has played out. Wanna watch some of CauthonLucks or Huks games.

Every match from here on out will be casted.


Yea but but...what if they lose? It's that that we just watched Louder play so I thought it would be fair to shine the spotlight on some other players as well even if they're about to play their 3rd game.
yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
May 08 2010 20:26 GMT
#73
Bottom position on steppes of war is better because the hand motion of attacking up and right is easier than down and left
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
May 08 2010 20:30 GMT
#74
I always prefer to play at the topmost position~
KTY
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2010 20:33 GMT
#75
On May 09 2010 05:14 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 05:12 Plexa wrote:
On May 09 2010 05:08 Crissaegrim wrote:
Aw man, I would like it if they switched to the bottom half of the group now that qxc and Louder has played out. Wanna watch some of CauthonLucks or Huks games.

Every match from here on out will be casted.


Yea but but...what if they lose? It's that that we just watched Louder play so I thought it would be fair to shine the spotlight on some other players as well even if they're about to play their 3rd game.
We're casting the 3rd/4th playoff as well, don't worry.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
May 08 2010 22:19 GMT
#76
awesome, awesome games.
and people say sc2 isnt fun to watch and takes no skill. lol.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Djall
Profile Joined July 2003
France47 Posts
May 08 2010 22:32 GMT
#77
I may be the only one thinking this, but could the caster quit selecting units as if he was trying to raise his APM cause referees don't have any APM meter ! :D
Arbalest
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada25 Posts
May 08 2010 23:32 GMT
#78
Wow Artosis you just read my mind, i HATE Kulas Ravine, it is extremely retarded to play against as a Zerg because any decent protoss or terran will exploit the cliffs and it is very hard to defend against.
terencecah
Profile Joined April 2010
United States7 Posts
May 08 2010 23:43 GMT
#79
Does anyone know where the VODs will be posted? I fell asleep at the start and woke up for finals -_-
socal
xxsoulhunterxx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States16 Posts
May 08 2010 23:59 GMT
#80
I love all the DBZ references from dj wheat
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
May 09 2010 00:34 GMT
#81
love DJ wheat =)
a.k.a reLapSe ---
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
May 09 2010 01:00 GMT
#82
haha hiding those vikings under the floating factory was awesome
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Seikhor
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada116 Posts
May 09 2010 01:05 GMT
#83
Great games, great tourney, thanks TL, Chill, Day9 and djWheat!
Norway
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States341 Posts
May 09 2010 01:05 GMT
#84
gg'z ^_^
Hoyooooo
ChocolateZerg
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States47 Posts
May 09 2010 01:06 GMT
#85
Great games. Excellent job to the tech crew. You guys never get all of the credit and respect you deserve for running these tournaments and streams so smoothly. Thanks!
And of course great job to the players and commentators!
Plaguuuuuuuuue
mfZOR
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia49 Posts
May 09 2010 01:06 GMT
#86
GG slush!
Vodh
Profile Joined May 2010
68 Posts
May 09 2010 01:09 GMT
#87
Big, big thanks to all the people who made that tournament possible from a new SC fan - all of you guys are amazing and it's been a really really great fun watching all the streams, listening to the comentary and all that. Of course gg by all players and once again big thanks. You guys are awesome.
Are you ready, guys? Put ya gunz on!
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
May 09 2010 01:09 GMT
#88
Great job guys. Was an awesome tournament that was smoothly run and entertaining to watch!
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
TrueRedemption
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States313 Posts
May 09 2010 01:09 GMT
#89
Great Production all around guys, thanks to everyone involved, keep up the amazing work!
Writer
yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 01:12:18
May 09 2010 01:09 GMT
#90
did artosis upload the replay he was talking about anywhere?

EDIT: it's here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124298
mtvacuum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States979 Posts
May 09 2010 01:11 GMT
#91
this tournament was awesome to watch! thanks to everyone who contributed and congrats to Slush for the victory
Darkalbino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia410 Posts
May 09 2010 01:18 GMT
#92
great games, congrats to slush, he played awesome.
"I edited it"
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
May 09 2010 01:34 GMT
#93
why not replays
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
Smikis
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania117 Posts
May 09 2010 01:49 GMT
#94
all this tourney did was promote zerg. not to dis players.. but i wish terrans would play as bad vs me, as they did vs slush

then i might stop hating zerg atm.. there are so many units that counter zerg completely, yet most players just spammed marauders.. which is op as it is.. isnt exactly counter.. raven completely destroy zerg.. just had game.. 5+ ravens.. misiles + drones.. totally obliterate you..

tanks + helions destroy hydras..

thors counters well pretty much everything.. why would you build 5 turrets, instead of 1 thor.. which is cheaper.. counters mutas even better.. and obliterate zerg army..

all in all, i was watching it all 7 hours.. but lvl of play was nothing but mid-high platinum.. and not one you expect when all you hear them talk about needing one more league..
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
May 09 2010 02:05 GMT
#95
Awesome Tournament!! Congrats to the winner and all TL Statff you really do high quality and hard work on SC Progaming, Thanks a Lot!!
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
May 09 2010 03:13 GMT
#96
Will replays be released eventually?
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 09 2010 03:21 GMT
#97
Yes. We will be releasing vods shortly and then replays will be released in the next few days
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 09 2010 04:02 GMT
#98
Look for most of the VODs to be online tomorrow evening, or at the latest sometime Monday afternoon. A few will probably be popping up in a couple hours, but I wouldn't stay up late F5ing for them.

I'm working as quickly as I can to get them to you guys, but it takes a while to process and encode a few terabytes of HD video
. . . nevermore
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
May 09 2010 04:58 GMT
#99
what account / website will the vods go up on?
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 09 2010 07:55 GMT
#100
On May 09 2010 13:58 vaderseven wrote:
what account / website will the vods go up on?

They'll be on the Nevake account.
. . . nevermore
Cirrus
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom134 Posts
May 09 2010 10:58 GMT
#101
Awesome tournament guys, that was the first Starcraft 2 i have actually sat down from beginning to end to watch. Congratulations to Slush, I loved his roach play. Great job by all teh staff of TL that made this possible, and chill and djWheat, and Day[9] for helping to cast after he got eliminated, made it awesome.Shame you could'nt stick around to cast after Day came back chill, but the casting was awesome nevertheless.

Great tournament all round.
:)
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
May 09 2010 13:28 GMT
#102
Arghhhhhhhh missed it!
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
May 09 2010 14:46 GMT
#103
what about replays? :/
i dunno lol
rAize
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany135 Posts
May 09 2010 15:30 GMT
#104
Replays within the next few days and VODS i suppose today, though quiet late allready.
"You may only set your birthday once, so make sure it's correct!"
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 09 2010 15:33 GMT
#105
On May 09 2010 23:46 OPSavioR wrote:
what about replays? :/

how about dont be impatient
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
rAize
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany135 Posts
May 09 2010 15:45 GMT
#106
On May 10 2010 00:33 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 23:46 OPSavioR wrote:
what about replays? :/

how about dont be impatient


How about you just answere his question. Maybe he wasnt being impatient, maybe he just wondered if they will be released? People try to interpret too much.
"You may only set your birthday once, so make sure it's correct!"
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 09 2010 15:53 GMT
#107
On May 10 2010 00:45 rAize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 00:33 TheAntZ wrote:
On May 09 2010 23:46 OPSavioR wrote:
what about replays? :/

how about dont be impatient


How about you just answere his question. Maybe he wasnt being impatient, maybe he just wondered if they will be released? People try to interpret too much.

it was answered on the page just before this one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124235&currentpage=5#97
if someone cant even read the thread, that means they shouldnt post
there was no interpretation here. either
a) he saw that they will be released and is being impatient
or b) he didnt see the message and thus is being impatient by not reading the thread and posting straight away
now quiet down nancy
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 09 2010 17:04 GMT
#108
On May 10 2010 00:45 rAize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 00:33 TheAntZ wrote:
On May 09 2010 23:46 OPSavioR wrote:
what about replays? :/

how about dont be impatient


How about you just answere his question. Maybe he wasnt being impatient, maybe he just wondered if they will be released? People try to interpret too much.



On May 09 2010 12:21 Kennigit wrote:
Yes. We will be releasing vods shortly and then replays will be released in the next few days

koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:27:36
May 09 2010 18:26 GMT
#109
gg SLusH
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
May 10 2010 07:58 GMT
#110
gl NonY!
#1 김택용 팬 | #1 화승 오즈 프로게임단 팬 | 스타2 하자! | 나를 찢어갈겨 이 씨발놈아 왜 나를 미치게 만들어 니가 뭘 아는데?
elitepolice2
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovenia2 Posts
May 10 2010 09:36 GMT
#111
gl to all
wazzap
teekuppi
Profile Joined April 2008
78 Posts
May 10 2010 11:17 GMT
#112
Where will you host the vod's once they are realeased ? Really looking forward on seeing em
SKT_Shino
Profile Joined May 2010
Peru2 Posts
May 10 2010 16:31 GMT
#113
tmr voy ahy
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
May 10 2010 18:48 GMT
#114
Not to be all impatient, although I definitely am, but is there a delay with the vods or a very relaxed definition of shortly?
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 10 2010 18:58 GMT
#115
On May 11 2010 03:48 cYaN wrote:
Not to be all impatient, although I definitely am, but is there a delay with the vods or a very relaxed definition of shortly?

Almost all of the Ro16 is already on Nevake, and the Ro8 is going up now.
. . . nevermore
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9102 Posts
May 11 2010 07:03 GMT
#116
On May 11 2010 03:58 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 03:48 cYaN wrote:
Not to be all impatient, although I definitely am, but is there a delay with the vods or a very relaxed definition of shortly?

Almost all of the Ro16 is already on Nevake, and the Ro8 is going up now.


A lot of the sames seem to be missing though. I don't mind waiting at all as long as they publicize when the replay pack is released so I'm aware of it. Though if they have the games, dunno why they can't release them.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 07:48:13
May 11 2010 07:16 GMT
#117
no commentary on the vods? :/

now i really feel bad for missing it...

/ed it k found the commentarys. avoided the threads cause i didnt want to get spoilered... well that failed but atleast i can watch em now.

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
raz`
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom33 Posts
May 11 2010 10:29 GMT
#118
On May 11 2010 16:16 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
no commentary on the vods? :/

now i really feel bad for missing it...

/ed it k found the commentarys. avoided the threads cause i didnt want to get spoilered... well that failed but atleast i can watch em now.




Where are the commentarys?
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 11:42:57
May 11 2010 11:41 GMT
#119
On May 11 2010 16:16 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
no commentary on the vods? :/

now i really feel bad for missing it...

/ed it k found the commentarys. avoided the threads cause i didnt want to get spoilered... well that failed but atleast i can watch em now.



Yeah I dont even understand why they even uploaded those VODs. Could have just upped the replays.
I looked up on WHEAT's ustream account and the first one was the finals. Event ruined for me. :/

Would be much better if you guys just add unspoilered links to commentaries next time. Kinda like in the HDH thread.
Zero_Signal
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3 Posts
May 11 2010 12:03 GMT
#120
Watched the VODs last night before i passed out..Good commentaries from nine and wheat! Made watching them more exciting. Wish there where more to watch honestly.

And for those saying that watching the finals first spoiled the rest? STFU. All the games I watched were just as good as the finals. If you want to be in suspense the whole time, watch it live. Its not the producers fault.

But good job TL on this production. Ive only just started watching these events live when I can and enjoying them.
Groovyschlumpf
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany75 Posts
May 11 2010 12:09 GMT
#121
Good Tournament but the nevake channel was a challange for spoilerfree footage :D Or is there a trick to ensure that you can view them without spoilers ... PM me :D
"Well, the (football)game lasts 90 Minutes" - Otto Rehagel (his team lost in overtime)
Lyrok
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany85 Posts
May 11 2010 12:14 GMT
#122
Can anyone provide a link to the casted games? Can't seem to find them at the YouTube channel, but getting mass spoilers of course
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
May 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#123
On May 11 2010 21:03 Zero_Signal wrote:
And for those saying that watching the finals first spoiled the rest? STFU. All the games I watched were just as good as the finals. If you want to be in suspense the whole time, watch it live. Its not the producers fault.


Damn right. It's not like VODs are for people who can't watch it live or somethin!!!1111
rAize
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany135 Posts
May 11 2010 14:44 GMT
#124
ye imo the vods, the way they are presented is a lil shabby, coulda been like tsl tournament vods, so you dont have to look for ages n get spoiled, not that I care since I saw it live, but a youtube chan isnt really great for those things.
"You may only set your birthday once, so make sure it's correct!"
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
May 11 2010 16:12 GMT
#125
Is it just me or is the youtube channel missing a lot of matches? I don't mean to sound ungrateful, I just can't find any matches past the round of 8 (or artosis vs day9).
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
May 11 2010 20:57 GMT
#126
I cannot seem to find all of the matches either. I cannot find any commentary either .

Good matches so far from what has been posted though =D
Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 14:08:55
May 12 2010 13:52 GMT
#127
These are mostly just replays, where are the casted vods?

Edit, just found this for others who are looking
djWheats cast of TLI2
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
May 14 2010 11:46 GMT
#128
I've been poking around trying to find the VODS for this for a while now... Is anything past the RO8 getting posted?
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
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