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On March 29 2010 07:43 towel wrote:wasnt kennigit going to ban the next person who asked about that?  Only people from europe this time maity
he's already banned several
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i love how a lot of users on YouTube criticize Day9 for his "retard commentary"
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The game which hooked me again was Supreme Commander an excellent RTS which didnt get the credit it deserved TA was better.
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After watching the semifinals and finals, I have to say the player that deserved to win did not.
Why?
TheLittleOne's OVERALL better play, his creative new builds, and his ability to adapt as games drag on.
TheLittleOne's polite demeanor. When I read WhiteRa's comments, then read TheLittleOne's, I thought WhiteRa sounded... Well I don't want to start a flame war here, so lets just say he sounded a teeny weeny bit arrogant.
How lucky WhiteRa was with his scouting and attacks on expansions, almost right when they came up. If I didn't respect WhitaRa as a player from his SC1 days, I would be screaming MAP HACKS all over the place.
TheLittleOne PLAYS FREAKIN' RANDOM.
So basically those are my thoughts. I've been a long time reader on the TL forums and just now signed up, because I thought I had to say something about this, and in my mind, TheLittleOne steamrolled WhiteRa in his caliber as a player.
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On March 29 2010 16:20 TLOBrian wrote: After watching the semifinals and finals, I have to say the player that deserved to win did not.
Why?
TheLittleOne's OVERALL better play, his creative new builds, and his ability to adapt as games drag on.
TheLittleOne's polite demeanor. When I read WhiteRa's comments, then read TheLittleOne's, I thought WhiteRa sounded... Well I don't want to start a flame war here, so lets just say he sounded a teeny weeny bit arrogant.
How lucky WhiteRa was with his scouting and attacks on expansions, almost right when they came up. If I didn't respect WhitaRa as a player from his SC1 days, I would be screaming MAP HACKS all over the place.
TheLittleOne PLAYS FREAKIN' RANDOM.
So basically those are my thoughts. I've been a long time reader on the TL forums and just now signed up, because I thought I had to say something about this, and in my mind, TheLittleOne steamrolled WhiteRa in his caliber as a player.
Even Jaedong doesn't win all of his matches. He's best with ZvZ but he doesn't win every time in ZvZ. Flash or other top players don't win every time. SC, SC2 and all RTS for that matter has a luck factor to it (mostly due to timing of attacks and unit composition). Higher macro/micro and creativity does not mean you will win every game. It only increases the chance of winning.
I do agree WhiteRa is less creative but he's a solid player. He doesn't crumble under pressure and know what to do in most of situations. WhiteRa was thrown off guard by TLO's innovative play but he responded accordingly. WhiteRa at the end won because TLO randomed protoss a lot. WhiteRa is possibly one of the best PvP players in SC2. If TLO concentrates on one race (plz let it be terran) I believe TLO will be a great SC2 progamer.
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is it or are 2 out of every 3 games in the replay pack the same?
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On March 29 2010 16:20 TLOBrian wrote: After watching the semifinals and finals, I have to say the player that deserved to win did not.
Why?
TheLittleOne's OVERALL better play, his creative new builds, and his ability to adapt as games drag on.
TheLittleOne's polite demeanor. When I read WhiteRa's comments, then read TheLittleOne's, I thought WhiteRa sounded... Well I don't want to start a flame war here, so lets just say he sounded a teeny weeny bit arrogant.
How lucky WhiteRa was with his scouting and attacks on expansions, almost right when they came up. If I didn't respect WhitaRa as a player from his SC1 days, I would be screaming MAP HACKS all over the place.
TheLittleOne PLAYS FREAKIN' RANDOM.
So basically those are my thoughts. I've been a long time reader on the TL forums and just now signed up, because I thought I had to say something about this, and in my mind, TheLittleOne steamrolled WhiteRa in his caliber as a player.
White-Ra really isn't arrogant as far as I can tell. The reason he wasn't giving nice, long answers and the reason he might not come across as a pillar of modesty or something in this interview is because we had a very short amount of time and the guy doesn't speak english well. TLO is certainly a nice guy and he gave a nice interview but blame me for getting short and seemingly curt answers out of White-Ra.
From the brief interaction I had with him, he seems like a decent guy.
That said, they both played really well. Can't wait for the NA tourny.
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On March 29 2010 20:05 zizou21 wrote: is it or are 2 out of every 3 games in the replay pack the same?
That's to avoid spoilers when browsing the replays.
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oh lol i am dumb :p
Man, that Morrow vs TheLittleOne game on Metropolis was painful to watch...
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TLO claims not to be a mechanical player, but as far as i have seen he's got one of the highest APM in SC2 during TLI. Good luck to u, TLO!
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On March 29 2010 20:39 zizou21 wrote: oh lol i am dumb :p
Man, that Morrow vs TheLittleOne game on Metropolis was painful to watch...
I think Morrow played terrible. Spamming Marauders all game...uah. I'd expected some more.
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Totally awesome games, love the Day[9] commentating and spent an awesome few hours watching these. SC2 is already in my eyes far more interesting to watch than SC1 and it can only get better as play develops. Yay to White-ra for winning especially as he has always shown class and manner. Yay to TLO for taking 2nd because his playstyle in just this tournament will, I think, change the way certain races are played and open up peoples eyes to how unique you can get with sc2. Yay to all the rest of the contenders for interesting games and making this a super spiffy TL invitational! Yay also to TL for making this happen...made my day off very entertaining!
Now to go rewatch that tlo v nazgul and tlo v ra game2 because they were both so incredibly fun to spectate that I require a 2nd viewing ^_^
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hey, i'm new and sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but can someone direct me to a place i can download the VOD's for this tournament. I love to watch SC2 tourneys on my ipod between classes. I could use a firefox addon to dl the youtube videos, but didn't know if there was better way. (torrent, direct download links, etc.) Thanks!
Also, just wanna say what a great tournament, and great shoutcasting by Day[9], don't get yourself electrocuted by your webcam!
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On March 29 2010 23:48 Nighthorns wrote: hey, i'm new and sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but can someone direct me to a place i can download the VOD's for this tournament. I love to watch SC2 tourneys on my ipod between classes. I could use a firefox addon to dl the youtube videos, but didn't know if there was better way. (torrent, direct download links, etc.) Thanks!
Also, just wanna say what a great tournament, and great shoutcasting by Day[9], don't get yourself electrocuted by your webcam!
VODs are in the original post on youtube. I don't see anything in the tracker, so you'll have to download it from youtube i guess. that's not really a big deal, if you google around there's easy ways to do this.
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the vod of - Hide Spoiler [Ro4 - Nazgul vs TheLittleOne] - is not complete. It is only game 1 and 2. The stream apparently resetted after these.
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On March 29 2010 21:39 Drazzzt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2010 20:39 zizou21 wrote: oh lol i am dumb :p
Man, that Morrow vs TheLittleOne game on Metropolis was painful to watch... I think Morrow played terrible. Spamming Marauders all game...uah. I'd expected some more.
Ya i kno.. At one point he had 4 expos and still no starport irrc..
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On March 29 2010 16:20 TLOBrian wrote: After watching the semifinals and finals, I have to say the player that deserved to win did not.
Why?
TheLittleOne's OVERALL better play, his creative new builds, and his ability to adapt as games drag on.
TheLittleOne's polite demeanor. When I read WhiteRa's comments, then read TheLittleOne's, I thought WhiteRa sounded... Well I don't want to start a flame war here, so lets just say he sounded a teeny weeny bit arrogant.
How lucky WhiteRa was with his scouting and attacks on expansions, almost right when they came up. If I didn't respect WhitaRa as a player from his SC1 days, I would be screaming MAP HACKS all over the place.
TheLittleOne PLAYS FREAKIN' RANDOM.
So basically those are my thoughts. I've been a long time reader on the TL forums and just now signed up, because I thought I had to say something about this, and in my mind, TheLittleOne steamrolled WhiteRa in his caliber as a player.
What an absolutely bizarre post. It's one thing to cheer for a player you like or compliment his style, but it's a completely different thing to make subtle accusations and tear down another player to do so.
Yes, TLO is good. He's creative, dynamic, and yes, very polite. But so is White-Ra. He's widely considered one of the most mannered foreigners around.
The fact that you'd attribute his wins to pure luck, and not his notorious preparation and thoughtfulness, is pretty insulting.
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really gj white-ra and gj Thelittleone on those games ;d
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What I think is humorous is how tlobrian thinks White-ra's scouting was lucky. Sign of high level play is how they know exactly when and where to be at just the right time to learn what is going on on the map. When an opponent attacks my expansion just as it goes up I don't mentally think "oh that lucky sob!" instead I think "wow nice skill."
There are always people that view skill as luck and it says a whole lot about their ability to perceive the world around them.
TLO showed awesome adaptability and really unique gameplay, I was blown away. White-ra showed pure unadulterated preparation for anything and everything, combined with intensely crisp play. It was a pure pleasure to watch both of them especially because of the diverse styles of play clashing head to head in the final!
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I have to say the title of this thread spoiled the results for me. I guess its not obvious but I figured it out.
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