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[SC2B] Liquipedia II
March 8th, 2010 22:58 GMT
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When the original Liquipedia was launched, Starcraft had been around for more than a decade. Much of the knowledge of the game was all but complete. This time, it's all different. Definite information about this game is sparse. We have stiff competition, it's not only us who strive to be the most valuable, the most complete resource on Starcraft II. It's us vs. them.
We therefore invite you to take a short tour through our new property, and we ask for your dedication and willpower to make it work. Teamliquid lives through its users, and together, we will make this new wiki great. The whole staff of Liquipedia is ready and dedicated to making the best out of your contributions. Don't hesitate to ask - we're here.
The tour begins, to:
1. Two wikis as one
We chose to open a completely new namespace for the new wiki. This prevents unneeded overlaps,so you don't have to dig through Boxer's entire SC1 career in order to find his SC2 accomplishments.
The most important feature is linking between the wikis. It is as simple as entering:
[[sc1:Zergling]]
[[sc2:Zergling]]
Instance 1 will link to Liquipedia I. Instance 2 to Liquipedia II. It's this easy. Our thanks go to MasterofChaos for the technical support.
2. A complete redesign
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I cannot describe how thankful I am to have such skilled graphical artists as those at Teamliquid. Denotate made us a new skin in the shortest possible time, while ZeroCartin did not make just a single new logo, but six to select from - and trust me, the decision was abysmally hard.
3. Units and Maps
As common in Liquipedia I, we have pages outlining the statistics, upgrades, and general use of all units. In a similar fashion, we are listing all maps, adding the layout and pointing out vital spots. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Units and http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Maps are something to work on right now, and I strongly encourage everyone to start there. Flicky, Mystlord, Plexa, Mrmin123, TheFallofTroy, Imperator and Carnac have done a great job at getting us started there.
4. Leagues and Players
It hasn't been long since the first tournaments have been played and/or announced, but they already found their way into our wiki space. We have the ESL tournaments, the  Zotac Cup, as well as the Hello-Goodbye cup, run by randomKo_Orean and sponsored by you, the TL users. The thanks go to Julmust, who already was a league-a-holic in Liquipedia I (adding most of 2009 Pokerstrategy.com TSL).
5. Strategy
Keeping track of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategy besides the almighty http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Zatic_Build will be the most trouble for us all. We ask you to be as conservative as possible, only to insert sure information and not to add any new build that surfaces. Do use the discussion pages extensively so that we know why what was changed. More info can be found on the Strategy Guidelines page.
See you on the Wiki!  The Liquipedia Staff
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PM a Liquipedia Staff Member: Aesop, Pholon, Imperator, mikeymoo, GHOSTCLAW, cgrinker, Ver, Mystlord
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Wow I was just thinking about Liquipedia II today o.O
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Canada5565 Posts
I swear I was JUST thinking about how nice this would be when I saw the thread
goddamn you guys are fast 
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England2657 Posts
Go go hard work, choo choo.
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Awesome beginning and many thanks for all the hard work
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Canada780 Posts
On March 09 2010 08:02 Flicky wrote:
Go go hard work, choo choo.
And there will definitely be more to come : )
Liquipedia was great and hopefully everyone will contribute and make Liquipedia 2 just as good.
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Hungary11261 Posts
On March 09 2010 08:06 TheFallofTroy wrote:And there will definitely be more to come : ) Liquipedia was great and hopefully everyone will contribute and make Liquipedia 2 just as good.
Happy birthday!
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Looks fucking awesome. Can't wait for all the good SCII ppls to write strategies :0
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On March 09 2010 08:09 synapse wrote:
Looks fucking awesome. Can't wait for all the good SCII ppls to write strategies :0
The very best right now are still using flawed strats, they're just doing it with excellent mechanics
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man tl is so awesome
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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Hungary11261 Posts
Just a reminder: Please check if what you want to add is already there. Someone just added the Patch Notes, which is great, but we already had those
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Awesome, the original liquipedia was THE best source for starcraft info, I have no doubt that liquipedia 2 will do the same.
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Great! Hopefully everyone with a beta account from TL chips in if they have something to add - it's a great opportunity to start one of these wikis from scratch and have it truly complete.
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Nice! Was thinking about this the other day. Yeah this will be a great source of sc2 info and I will definitely be following along.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
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Whoa man, you guys are the best!
I, and most others (I assume), had kinda given up on liquipedia1, since sc2 was right around the corner. This is just amazing, and I have a feeling that this is gonna be a pretty big deal for the majority of the incoming sc2 scene.
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Huzzah! I've been waiting for this! I'll be sure to contribute too!!! Good work guys.
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kinda surprised this is allowed during beta with all the nda's that surround usual closed betas
thanks for hosting it though!
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Hungary11261 Posts
On March 09 2010 08:42 halpmehzilaes wrote:
kinda surprised this is allowed during beta with all the nda's that surround usual closed betas
thanks for hosting it though!
There is no real NDA on this beta - people are allowed to share replays, stream, do tournaments, do wikis.
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Awesome. My concern is though, which one will be linked to by "Liquipedia" at the top of TL!? Is it going to change to Liquipedia II when SC2 is released? Madness.
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Can we get some CowGoMoo builds on that terran page?  Hell, that guy even deserves his own bio with the way he's playing
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United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
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On March 09 2010 08:42 halpmehzilaes wrote:
kinda surprised this is allowed during beta with all the nda's that surround usual closed betas
thanks for hosting it though!
Blizzard has said openly on their forums that people are encouraged to spread the word about SC2 (even though it doesn't make a difference since everybody on earth wants SC2!)
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Oh sweeeet, can't wait for it to get filled up
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if it included the top players from all the leagues thatd be amazing
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Awesome sauce!
One question, if we want to submit articles, do we have to talk to someone or can we just submit it on our own?
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theres some cool stuff in here tl is always on top of things
it might be kinda early to start adding bos tho, since everyone is experimenting and learning stuff all the time. maybe u should focus on other stuff (theres alot ^^)
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Yay! You used my tech tree screen shots! I feel so accomplished now. (you can tell because the zerg one is slightly cut off)
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Awesome, will be great for compiling SC2 info.
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England2657 Posts
On March 09 2010 08:49 Senx wrote:Can we get some CowGoMoo builds on that terran page? Hell, that guy even deserves his own bio with the way he's playing
There will be a page for Bio, possibly related to CowGoMoo, but as with any game, it's hard to know exactly who created which builds for certain. If you're enjoying his replays, note down some build orders, test them out and see how it works. If it goes well, you can add them.
On March 09 2010 08:57 JiYan wrote:
if it included the top players from all the leagues thatd be amazing
With the fan's help, this should be very possible. However, right now we're generally doing players that have a bit of history in other games and have won a tournament or played in important showmatches.
On March 09 2010 09:03 Chairman Ray wrote:
One question, if we want to submit articles, do we have to talk to someone or can we just submit it on our own?
If you want to write an article, just make a log-in (not essential, but it helps keep track of things) and just submit it. Everything has to be checked by an Editor so there's no worry if it isn't up to scratch. If it is missing something, we'll contact you easily enough and work on it to get it readable.
On March 09 2010 09:20 MorroW wrote:
it might be kinda early to start adding bos tho, since everyone is experimenting and learning stuff all the time. maybe u should focus on other stuff (theres alot ^^)
Well, there's not a whole lot else to do right now so there's plenty of time for strategies. We're being rather selective at the moment and every build we have is currently very commonly used.
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Germany1023 Posts
haha nice, Zatic rose to everlasting fame.
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can i get that graphic by Detonate, blown up?
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Am I the only person who thinks it's kind of lame to name a build after yourself?
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Man, just two weeks ago this was all just CSS tags and dreams... 'sniff' 'sniff' Now look how much it's grown! 
Aesop, you're the man!
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United States24601 Posts
As awesome as this is I'm concerned there's gonna be a hell of a lot of disagreement on what to put and what not to put in the strategy section :p
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On March 09 2010 10:28 Kishime wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks it's kind of lame to name a build after yourself?
Nope. It's especially absurd considering beta's only been out a few weeks and its viability may or may not even exist in the coming months. If you become Bisu with it, then you can name it after yourself.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Woooooooo...
God it's so empty.... The news post asks you to be a bit conservative with what you add, but honestly, anything goes at this point in the development of the beta where ANYTHING goes (pretty much).
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Canada7170 Posts
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Exactly what I've been waiting for.
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Yes!!! And when I finally come up with the uber epic self proclaimed "Dynasty Build" you will all tremble under my mighty (race undecided) feet!!! Muhahahah!
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the new liquipedia seems awesome.
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Ooo very nice looking forward to browsing it
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sweet! these tips and guides are helpful
cant wait to see more protoss build orders and strategies
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I can't wait for a few years to pass and I can say I was a part of this. I really missed out on a ton of broodwar, but that won't happen this time xD
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On March 09 2010 08:48 Durak wrote:
Awesome. My concern is though, which one will be linked to by "Liquipedia" at the top of TL!? Is it going to change to Liquipedia II when SC2 is released? Madness.
There will be two links in the top bar iirc.
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i dont think u put the shields COUNT like u put HP 100 but no shields on zealots in sc2, i dont have beta, but i think that is incorrect!
edit: just trying to help!
edit2: i just seen it on a stalker too, so im guessing there are no more shields on protos units or soemthing.. thats gay.
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Costa Rica2390 Posts
:D awesome job guys! will browse alot there!
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On March 09 2010 10:48 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2010 10:28 Kishime wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks it's kind of lame to name a build after yourself? Nope. It's especially absurd considering beta's only been out a few weeks and its viability may or may not even exist in the coming months. If you become Bisu with it, then you can name it after yourself.
except I'm pretty sure it was named after Zatic after Zatic had a lot of success with it in one of the pre-beta playings (Blizzcon maybe?), and thus people named it after him.
So, really, its not about ego. Zatic just came up with a legitimate build in a short amount of time which was named after him.
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Canada780 Posts
On March 09 2010 13:56 wishbones wrote:
i dont think u put the shields COUNT like u put HP 100 but no shields on zealots in sc2, i dont have beta, but i think that is incorrect!
edit: just trying to help!
edit2: i just seen it on a stalker too, so im guessing there are no more shields on protos units or soemthing.. thats gay.
Don't worry, we are working on it.
Thanks for the heads up btw.
Edit:Ok, everything is fine now, just a small problem with the template and now its fixed.
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I would like to contribute but for now i really cant
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Awesome!
I have to add though, that the page is very bright and very dark in a sort-of uneven fashion. Perhaps a slight gray/blue shade in the main window whould help it out a bit. Also slightly lighter background on the side-bar texts things. The ones with the blue background.
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I must admit this is super legit.
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GJ! that will hopefully help to bring the skill during the beta to the next level!
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Looks pretty Denotate is an awesome addition to the graphics team for sure.
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USA29055 Posts
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Just want to say you guys are doing a great job. To bad I can't help at this moment.
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very awesome work, now i can understand what the hell is going on during sc2 games
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I dont know if there is any better site than TL...they are doing so much for this community for FREE..incredible
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
This is sick. Major props to everyone who worked on this.
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On March 09 2010 14:17 TheFallofTroy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2010 13:56 wishbones wrote:
i dont think u put the shields COUNT like u put HP 100 but no shields on zealots in sc2, i dont have beta, but i think that is incorrect!
edit: just trying to help!
edit2: i just seen it on a stalker too, so im guessing there are no more shields on protos units or soemthing.. thats gay. Don't worry, we are working on it. Thanks for the heads up btw. Edit:Ok, everything is fine now, just a small problem with the template and now its fixed.
loooks sexy haha. I figured you guys forgot, but i guess its still a work in progress. haha. SMILES love this thing good to read.
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Awesome, now I got something to read every night!
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very good job
keep up the good work :D
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United States17042 Posts
urk, make sure you guys add to the liquipedia "builds to try" thread. the liquipedia staff collectively dosen't get enough time to play, so it's kind of hard for us to get strict build order timings for everything that ends up working. Example: warp gate rush, written up by Nazgul. Build order for it? What gets the warpgates up the fastest?
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Hungary11261 Posts
On March 10 2010 04:46 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
urk, make sure you guys add to the liquipedia "builds to try" thread. the liquipedia staff collectively dosen't get enough time to play, so it's kind of hard for us to get strict build order timings for everything that ends up working. Example: warp gate rush, written up by Nazgul. Build order for it? What gets the warpgates up the fastest?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/3_Warpgate_Rush_(vs_Protoss)
:p
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cool it's live now.
If anyone wants an easy way to help the wiki (i do this all the time). Just type in a slang word for a unit/structure and if the page comes up blank, hit create. and type in the redirect to the actual name of the thing which would look like this: #REDIRECT [[Proper unit name here]] then save page.
This redirects this page http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bling to this page http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Baneling
You can even do redirects for pluralizations and lower case/caps.
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On March 10 2010 06:07 CharlieMurphy wrote:cool it's live now. If anyone wants an easy way to help the wiki (i do this all the time). Just type in a slang word for a unit/structure and if the page comes up blank, hit create. and type in the redirect to the actual name of the thing which would look like this: #REDIRECT [[Proper unit name here]] then save page. This redirects this page http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bling to this page http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/BanelingYou can even do redirects for pluralizations and lower case/caps.
Don't think that's accurate.
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This is beautiful, I love you guys.
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i'm editing, but what i edit seems to be reverted.
not quite sure what am i doing wrong 
EDIT: got messaged. nice.
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Hungary11261 Posts
On March 12 2010 06:18 s.a.y wrote:i'm editing, but what i edit seems to be reverted. not quite sure what am i doing wrong EDIT: got messaged. nice.
If it should ever happen to you that your edit is rolled back and you don't receive an explanation (on your user page, mostly), + Show Spoiler +check if you wrote something really stupid and if not,
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Really nice job!
hope people will get any help from this!
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