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[MSL] Coup de Grace - Page 4

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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
January 14 2010 05:54 GMT
#61
(T)Flash > (Z)Kwanro 3:0 // 3:1
(Z)Jaedong < (P)Kal 2:3
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
January 14 2010 06:06 GMT
#62
True the funniest would be if after an epic series with Flash vs Kwanro, JD gets kwanrolled 3-1 in the final.

Though yes this is the setup for something so epic since Flash knocked JD out of the OSL in convincing fashion. If Flash can hold his ground here and deliver another beatdown to JD in the finals, he will surely silence the haters and be considered a true champion. Then he should go ahead and win the gold, platinum and diamond mice. =P So should boxer.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
January 14 2010 06:28 GMT
#63
Its hard to see how kwanro actually best Flash in a Bo5... let alone a single match.... 1. Kwanro's late game is untested if he plays standard 2. Flash MnM micro against mutalisks is too awesome for words.... the only way I see flash losing is.... he gets too greedy/getting cheesed/or slightly mis-micros
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 15:22:34
January 14 2010 06:40 GMT
#64
On January 14 2010 14:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 13:08 Gumbo wrote:
On January 14 2010 04:51 Cpadolf wrote:
Jaedong will 3-0 Kal, after which he will go on to win another 8 ZvP's straight and beat Flash's TvT streak... I hope.


YEAH JD WILL OFFRACE AGAINST FLASH AND PWN HIM EVEN HARDER!


That's not what he's saying. Flash has the best matchup streak of 22 straight wins (in TvT). Jaedong is currently on a 12 game streak in a match up (ZvP). If he 3-0s kal he will be at 15 straight wins, and then he said "After which he will go on to win another 8 ZvPs straight" which would be 23 straight wins in ZvP, breaking Flash's winstreak in a specific match up.


Actually, JD is currently on a 13 game streak (according to the Koreans, which is the source used for Flash's streak, as in TLPD it's "only" 15 wins), but Flash's streak was 23 wins, going by the interview with Really. But yeah, that was what I was saying. Although IIRC JD is a pretty mean off-racer, so him beating Flash in TvT would be fine too :p

EDIT: Actually it was 22 after all, so Jaedong only need to 3-0 Kal and then get another 7 wins = ezpz.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 14 2010 06:53 GMT
#65
I'm really curious to see whether or not Flash has prepared a mech build on Odd Eye. Judging by Ruby's game against Effort, it doesn't seem like a half bad map for mech play.

Chances are that the series will either be three games or five games due to Flash turning into a major retard whenever he plays on Match Point.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 07:36:02
January 14 2010 07:34 GMT
#66
On January 14 2010 12:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash 3-0 Kwanro
Jaedong 3-1 Goojila
Flash 3-1 Jaedong

My wishes:
Flash 3-1 Kwanro
Jaedong 2-3 Goojila
Flash 3-2 Goojila

That's exactly what i wish too
But i also want Flash vs Jaedong finals...
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 08:09:49
January 14 2010 08:09 GMT
#67
I hope to see Kwanrolls when I wake up.
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
January 14 2010 08:15 GMT
#68
As I did for Flash vs. Movie, Flash's expected winning probability against Kwanro, based solely on their Elo ratings, is 70.5%. If you dubiously use their respective vZ and vT Elo ratings, Flash's expected winning probability is 72.5%.

Going by Jaedong and Kal's Elo ratings, Jaedong's expected winning probability is 57%. Using their respective vP and vZ ratings, however, Jaedong's winning probability jumps to 68%.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
January 14 2010 09:19 GMT
#69
Nice article but I think next time you should include 4th and 5th game dummies.
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
January 14 2010 10:10 GMT
#70
Thanks for the great reports!
Wir haben zuwenig Vespingas!
ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 10:34:53
January 14 2010 10:34 GMT
#71
Watching Flash vs Kwanro now, and the predictions couldn't be more wrong in terms of strategies employed.
Bring back 2v2s!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 14 2010 11:47 GMT
#72
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 14 2010 19:34 ComradeDover wrote:
Watching Flash vs Kwanro now, and the predictions couldn't be more wrong in terms of strategies employed.

lol
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
January 14 2010 12:15 GMT
#73
On January 14 2010 11:27 skronch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 11:08 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Please make guardians, Kwanro.

cheap shot. everyone knows guardians are insta-loss

Nice predictions guys.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 14 2010 15:55 GMT
#74
On January 14 2010 14:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 13:08 Gumbo wrote:
On January 14 2010 04:51 Cpadolf wrote:
Jaedong will 3-0 Kal, after which he will go on to win another 8 ZvP's straight and beat Flash's TvT streak... I hope.


YEAH JD WILL OFFRACE AGAINST FLASH AND PWN HIM EVEN HARDER!


That's not what he's saying. Flash has the best matchup streak of 22 straight wins (in TvT). Jaedong is currently on a 12 game streak in a match up (ZvP). If he 3-0s kal he will be at 15 straight wins, and then he said "After which he will go on to win another 8 ZvPs straight" which would be 23 straight wins in ZvP, breaking Flash's winstreak in a specific match up.


I was joking. My all caps was a little hint, and the fact that JD should offrace too.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 16:45:40
January 14 2010 16:43 GMT
#75
Is that like a coup de gras?

edit: Apparently 'coup de gras' is some new spelling that is incorrect but popular
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 14 2010 21:06 GMT
#76
jeeeeeeeeeeesus. Kwanro vs Flash were great games.
not sure about his guardian switches thou..
cw)minsean(ru
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 14 2010 21:27 GMT
#77
On January 14 2010 16:34 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 12:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash 3-0 Kwanro
Jaedong 3-1 Goojila
Flash 3-1 Jaedong

My wishes:
Flash 3-1 Kwanro
Jaedong 2-3 Goojila
Flash 3-2 Goojila

That's exactly what i wish too
But i also want Flash vs Jaedong finals...


Well I want a Flash vs Goojila finals, so that's why I'm rooting for Goojila over Jaedong. I think it'll be a better series.
RIP Aaliyah
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
January 14 2010 22:13 GMT
#78
Hmmm, predicting flash rolls kwanroll and the wizard of oz makes it to the end of the yellow brick road for the most epic finals ever(assuming jd doesnt suck in zvt vs flash like he has been recently).
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
January 15 2010 05:54 GMT
#79
On January 14 2010 04:03 SubtleArt wrote:
Btw why is it that zergs like Zero, Hyun (who actually won), and Calm, especially Calm, have been able to challenge Flash so much whereas JD, who's still obviously better, got raped that badly



Well, the first game was not JD like at all. He looked tired from the start and displayed nothing at all. Being tired while playing is nothing new (plenty of other players have tough schedules too) but other players don't build as much of their game // playstyle around mechanics. Mechanics is the first thing to suffer from being tired.

I think JD was more ready to go in the second game, but the map specific cheese flash had ready didn't really give JD a chance. Even if he didn't lose to the bunker rush it would have set him back far enough to not really have a chance.




I expect a BO5 between them to be much more epic.
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ToolBox
Profile Joined May 2009
United States13 Posts
January 15 2010 16:17 GMT
#80
I want to see upsets here, Kwanro vs Kal finals!
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