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The countdown is over, the games have begun, and the Pokerstrategy.com TSL has finally started! As you hit that ladder, recoil from the shock and get ready to attack it once again, here are a few interviews to keep you motivated and in the zone. The three people interviewed here are among the favourites to win the entire tournament.

IdrA
Interview by riptide

What went through your head when you first found out about TSL2?

I was excited of course, especially when I found out about the prize pool. TSL is by far the best run foreigner tournament I've ever played in.

How so?

The admins actually put a lot of thought and hard work into everything and make intelligent decisions on a case by case basis. Its nothing special, the people running it are just competent. There's a real lack of that among other tournament organizers. Though Xeris and Artosis are good as well.

What do you think of the open ladder format?

Well it gets kind of tedious with multiple tournaments running that format, since it takes a decent amount of time to play up through the ladder. I wouldn't mind seeing qualifier tournaments. But on the other hand I think ladders nearly guarantee anyone who deserves to qualify will, and also gives everyone a chance to compete, even if they would normally be knocked out in the early rounds of a tournament.

Thanks to your time in Korea, you're one of the favourites in this TSL. What things have changed since your first TSL experience, and how do you see them affecting your chances in this tournament?

Mainly just an increase in skill and experience. In the first TSL I had just gotten to Korea and wasn't fully adjusted yet, I hadn't really started to improve at all. Obviously now that I've been here over a year and a half I've improved drastically and have competed in a lot more big matches. I definitely think that improves my chances alot.

Though you're probably the best you've ever been, there are no doubt people you're still wary of. Who do you think you are most likely to meet in the qualifiers, and who are you going to prepare for the most?

I don't prepare for foreigners. It's near impossible to anticipate what they'll do as half the time they'll choose bad strategies simply for the surprise effect. I've found I have much better results when I go into a match with an open mind and play reactively. Practicing often gets me into a rut, strategically. White-ra is probably most likely to beat me, ret is the next best player in the tournament but I'm more wary of an aggressive protoss player. If pj ends up going outside China to play or something he's obviously a threat too.

Speaking of threats, I have to ask this one now - what happened with koll at WCG, and what are your thoughts on that series?

He played better than me that match and deserved to win, but I definitely hope we'll play again in TSL or some other tournament soon.

If you had to comment on his style of play from the little you know of koll, what would you say?

I think he actually plays a more korean style than even ret. His muta micro is quite good too. I think his weakness is he depends on a very low unit count mid game while rushing to swarm turtle, and if his muta micro doesn't buy him enough time early game he'll die to a strong timing rush.

Speaking of new kids on the block, you're now easily one of the more senior players on the scene. Since you've been active in the foreign scene as well during your time in Korea and based on what you've seen since the last TSL, which rookies should fans be watching out for?

Not Mana. To be honest I don't really follow the foreigner scene beyond the tournaments I play in and the only new player who seems to be doing anything in tournaments and has a fair amount of skill would be kolll. Inka has improved alot recently as well.

Finally, let's talk about your life in Korea. With practice taking up so much of your day already, how will you go about preparing for the TSL? What about laddering, how will that work?

There's no starleague qualifiers coming up so except when a proleaguer asks for help preparing for a match we mostly have free practice right now, and we can play iccup during that time, so I shouldn't have a problem there.

That's great. OK, time to call down the thunder! Let's bring out the trash talk. Who are you going to take down in this TSL, and who better get outta your way?

There's no one really worth calling out. Ret deserves second but I do not think I'll lose to him, just given his style, and the fact that hes dealing with a bunch of drama right now and hasn't even really begun settling in to progaming yet. I always feel like White-Ra is likely to beat me but I've won the last 5 or 6 matches we've played so I guess i shouldn't really worry about him either. Draco's pretty good at proxy gating but I think theres a bunch of big macro maps in TSL so hopefully he wont be able to win a bo5 off of it. No one else really comes to mind.

OK Idra, thanks for talking to us. Hope to see you out on the ladder soon, and till then glhf!

Thanks.


Ret
Interview by Rage

Hi ret! I guess you need no introduction. How have you been?

I've been pretty good! Had a great time at IEF hanging out with all the foreigners who came over for the tournament and the people already living here. For now I'm living with Artosis and trying to play some SC in the numerous PC bangs across the city of Seoul, getting back in shape and ready for TSL2!

You're one of the community's favourites to win TSL2. What are your personal expectations and hopes?

I hope to win. I think it will be between me and IdrA and I think I can beat him. That's about as straight forward as I can be . My only concern is ZvZ on some of the 4 player maps, there is some luck involved in that. So I hope I can avoid Zerg opponents. Overall I think it will be an awesome tournament - better than TSL1. The organisation behind it is awesome, as are the casters and the format.
It will be a feast for SC fans and players alike.

How does it feel to be a top player that has to learn a new matchup? Do you already feel confident against the top foreign ZvZ players?

I feel I understood the matchup pretty quickly. Since I wasn't able to play much in Korea yet I think I did most of my learning process back in The Netherlands and the rest of it just happened in my head even when I wasn't playing. I don't think there's any foreigner zerg I wouldn't go at least 50% against right now in ZvZ.

The only reason I want to avoid Zerg players is the fact that 4 player maps really complicate things in that matchup and makes it very luck based, something I'm not comfortable with.

There were a lot of foreigner tournaments in the past year, and you participated in most of them. With your hands-on knowledge of the foreigner scene, give me a good prediction of what you think the top 16 would look like.

Well it's a ladder - top16 will differentiate greatly from what I think is the foreign Top16 in terms of raw skill. But I will try to make a list anyway:
IdrA, Mondragon, Dimaga, White-Ra, Kolll, Haypro, Fenix, Castro, DinOt, nyoken, Xiaozi, A2, aCe, G5, Naugrim , Dreiven.

But yeah, Brat_OK, Draco and JF are seeded, so scrap 3 from that list.

There's been some hype surrounding Kolll ever since he took 4th place in WCG. Any words on your young teammate's chances?

He's a really good, talented player. I played my first games with him well over a year ago and have played with him occasionally over the past year - he has constantly improved and his ZvZ and ZvT are definitely very top foreign level. Unfortunately I think his ZvP will hold him back, but if he avoids the strongest protosses or improves his ZvP, he has a really good chance at top3, at least.

Personally I hope a dirty Protoss gets rid of him for me.

You've accumulated a lot of fans over the past year, any shout outs to them as they get pumped to watch you destroy everyone?

I appreciate all my fans' support, and my loyal stream watchers who leave feedback for me. Playing this game has been much more fun since I've started streaming, sharing your games with whoever wants to watch is very nice. I hope everyone roots for me during the TSL and hopefully I can live up to your expectations. In the words of a very wise man 'I will continue to work hard.'

Alright, thanks for the interview. See you in the ladder stage!


The Draco
Interview by Rage

Hi Draco! First off: what are your thoughts on the TSL2 announcement?

I’m really excited. The prizes are huge, everything seems to be professionally made and I know that there is nothing to worry about. This event is surely going to be the best online event ever and I’m happy to have a chance to be a part of it. Also due to my poor results during the last months TSL is the best place to show that even such an old school gamer like me still can own at this game.

You practiced very hard for the WCG Grand Finals, yet had disappointing results. What happened?

I’ve done everything to prepare myself as good as it was only possible and I was going for the WCG finals being in a good form. Although it seems to me like everything was against me at this year’s final. At the beginning the place where we played was really cold so I had to wear jacket during the first game against Louder. My hands were freezing. I made one single mistake and I lost to 4 goon dragon rush build. The second game was against Jaedong and I knew that the only chance to beat him was to win the game in the first attack. It didn’t work out and I lost. After that I won 2 games and went to play on the mini stage against Toodming. The conditions inside the gaming box were really bad and my performance was far away from what I expected and from what I could really play. Anyway I lost, my opponents adopted better to unfavorable circs or were simply better than me (lol what?).

Last TSL, you barely practiced for your games, besides playing the ladder qualifier. This time, you've been seeded in to the Top 16. How will you prepare?

The prize pool is really tasty and I bet that many players will try their best to grab the money. Winning TSL will be also very prestigious achievement so I will surely prepare myself as good as it will be possible. Nowadays ICCUP is probably the best place to practise for foreigners so I will play there as well.

Everyone thinks either Ret or IdrA will win this TSL. Do you agree, and how far do you expect yourself to get in the tournament?

Both of them have been playing really a lot for the last months or even years so there is nothing surprising that people consider them as favorites for the title. Although there are many ‘young’ players who could beat them and these who return to more active gaming just for the TSL. I know that my last results were far away from what I used to represent and many of you think that Draco is no more as dangerous as it was in the past but I will try to use it as my weapon.

What's your prediction for the final Top 16, besides you, Brat_OK and IefNaij?

Idra, Ret, White-Ra, XiaOzI and Dimaga will most probably qualify. I don’t know how about the rest. It’s hard to predict such players like for example Mondragon or Strelok because it depends on how much they try to make it.

Any last words to your fans?

I’ve not been doing very well for the last months but the ‘downswing’ needs to end someday and the time of The Draco dominance is close.

The ladder is live and the TSL team is set, so start playing!

Good luck, have fun, and let the games begin!




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November 21 2009 05:02 GMT
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November 21 2009 05:02 GMT
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Wahoo!
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November 21 2009 05:03 GMT
#5
Already applied to join at 12:01!
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November 21 2009 05:04 GMT
#6
Good luck to everyone participating!
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Australia1382 Posts
November 21 2009 05:04 GMT
#7
Is it me, or did TL just cause iccup to crash because like 1k+ people just tried to sign up?
riptide
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5673 Posts
November 21 2009 05:06 GMT
#8
GLHF everyone!
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IdrA
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United States11541 Posts
November 21 2009 05:06 GMT
#9
i said "not mana" not "not many"
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
November 21 2009 05:09 GMT
#10
Ret getting an early start. Gogo Jos!
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United States6095 Posts
November 21 2009 05:10 GMT
#11
GLHF
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November 21 2009 05:11 GMT
#12
On November 21 2009 14:06 IdrA wrote:
i said "not mana" not "not many"

LOL

ok edited, but rofl
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November 21 2009 05:12 GMT
#13
If the "lol what?" represents confusion on the interviewers part about what Draco meant, I think he's trying to say that his opponent "adapted" to "unfavourable circumstances".
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Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 21 2009 05:12 GMT
#14
Where do you join the team?
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November 21 2009 05:13 GMT
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#16
On November 21 2009 14:12 HazMat wrote:
Where do you join the team?


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November 21 2009 05:24 GMT
#17
Can we play before we get accepted into the team?
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United States13896 Posts
November 21 2009 05:26 GMT
#18
Yes, provided you didn't play before the ladder started.
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United States1508 Posts
November 21 2009 05:32 GMT
#19
AND THEY ARE OFF

I'm in :D
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November 21 2009 05:43 GMT
#21
On November 21 2009 14:32 KnightOfNi wrote:
AND THEY ARE OFF

I'm in :D


That's the way it feels.

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Canada1066 Posts
November 21 2009 05:46 GMT
#23
i hope idra wins/

but i had to post this pic

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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
November 21 2009 05:47 GMT
#24
How long does it take for you to approve? I'll start playing...
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Last Edited: 2009-11-21 05:51:54
November 21 2009 05:51 GMT
#25
On November 21 2009 14:47 LaLuSh wrote:
How long does it take for you to approve? I'll start playing...


Approvals are almost instant right now, although the iccup site is a little slow to update. You can start playing immediately at this point though, you don't need to wait for approval.
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#26
omfg im not gonna win but meh gl to both idra and ret hope to see you guys as the last two in the finals!!!! ijoined to five minutes from now

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November 21 2009 05:54 GMT
#27
[image loading]


That didn't even take an hour ^_^
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November 21 2009 06:02 GMT
#28
Kwarks a beast ^^ GOGO David
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Switzerland11984 Posts
November 21 2009 06:04 GMT
#29
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Please keep doing interviews during the ladder as well, hearing from all the favourites is awesome.
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Chile103 Posts
November 21 2009 06:05 GMT
#30
250 players in the first hour, really nice
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United States2230 Posts
November 21 2009 06:06 GMT
#31
Are we allowed to clear our stats if we are a tsl member?
No_eL
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Chile1438 Posts
November 21 2009 06:07 GMT
#32
gl draco!!

Beat after beat i will become stronger.
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Canada3642 Posts
November 21 2009 06:07 GMT
#33
I'm almost at D+ lol 6-0 2 gate ftw
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November 21 2009 06:11 GMT
#34
On November 21 2009 14:51 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 14:47 LaLuSh wrote:
How long does it take for you to approve? I'll start playing...


Approvals are almost instant right now, although the iccup site is a little slow to update. You can start playing immediately at this point though, you don't need to wait for approval.


My account is DrAgOOnPK[TSL] but I didnt get approved yet :/
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 07:19:05
November 21 2009 06:11 GMT
#35
gogogo! good luck all!

not to me though, i'm barely D+ ahaha. hopefully this will be a good experience by at least trying!

Edit, I'm TSL-Rainbow
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United States3519 Posts
November 21 2009 06:13 GMT
#36
signed up for team going to own now :D
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November 21 2009 06:17 GMT
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TSL)LiquiD

gogo
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Canada13788 Posts
November 21 2009 06:20 GMT
#38
TSL2, made with balls!
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United States9908 Posts
November 21 2009 06:25 GMT
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Kwark hacks.
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Canada630 Posts
November 21 2009 06:27 GMT
#40
Idra seems to have really dialed up the manner, good to see, hopefully this will slowly but surely starve his anti-fans.
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Croatia1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 06:28:49
November 21 2009 06:28 GMT
#41
I don't have option to join the team.
semioldguy
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United States7488 Posts
November 21 2009 06:33 GMT
#42
On November 21 2009 15:28 ReiKo wrote:
I don't have option to join the team.

Are you in another team?
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Kennigit *
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Canada19447 Posts
November 21 2009 06:33 GMT
#43
The time of The Draco dominance is close.


Fuck yeah!
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Aiur21549 Posts
November 21 2009 06:36 GMT
#44
Great to see Draco's serious about making a comeback.
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 06:41:12
November 21 2009 06:40 GMT
#45
On November 21 2009 15:11 DragoonPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 14:51 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On November 21 2009 14:47 LaLuSh wrote:
How long does it take for you to approve? I'll start playing...


Approvals are almost instant right now, although the iccup site is a little slow to update. You can start playing immediately at this point though, you don't need to wait for approval.


My account is DrAgOOnPK[TSL] but I didnt get approved yet :/

You should be approved I believe, I seem to recall approving you, or maybe clicking approve and finding someone else did it already .
We're keeping it pretty much at 0 requests at the moment, although a good portion of us are North Americans so we'll have to rely upon Euros/Asians to take over after the next couple hours
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Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
November 21 2009 06:44 GMT
#46
On November 21 2009 15:40 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 15:11 DragoonPK wrote:
On November 21 2009 14:51 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On November 21 2009 14:47 LaLuSh wrote:
How long does it take for you to approve? I'll start playing...


Approvals are almost instant right now, although the iccup site is a little slow to update. You can start playing immediately at this point though, you don't need to wait for approval.


My account is DrAgOOnPK[TSL] but I didnt get approved yet :/

You should be approved I believe, I seem to recall approving you, or maybe clicking approve and finding someone else did it already .
We're keeping it pretty much at 0 requests at the moment, although a good portion of us are North Americans so we'll have to rely upon Euros/Asians to take over after the next couple hours

...some people don't sleep.
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
November 21 2009 06:47 GMT
#47
On November 21 2009 15:33 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 15:28 ReiKo wrote:
I don't have option to join the team.

Are you in another team?



Yup, sorrry. My fault.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
November 21 2009 06:49 GMT
#48
GLHF everybody!
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
November 21 2009 06:52 GMT
#49
On November 21 2009 15:47 ReiKo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 15:33 semioldguy wrote:
On November 21 2009 15:28 ReiKo wrote:
I don't have option to join the team.

Are you in another team?



Yup, sorrry. My fault.

K, I accepted you. It still shows you being on your old team, but that should fix itself before long. You should be good now.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
November 21 2009 07:04 GMT
#50
With my one win in hand, I now retire from the TSL.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 21 2009 07:14 GMT
#51
Did you explain anywhere to people who weren't around for the first TSL how to play or is everyone expected to know? It's not a problem to me but I want to direct some friends to join and stuff and I'm kind of retarded and can't find a link.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
November 21 2009 07:17 GMT
#52
On November 21 2009 16:14 thunk wrote:
Did you explain anywhere to people who weren't around for the first TSL how to play or is everyone expected to know? It's not a problem to me but I want to direct some friends to join and stuff and I'm kind of retarded and can't find a link.

1. Create an account on ICCup (with a TSL tag).

2. Join the TSL team (link in first post).

3. Download the Anti-Hack Launcher and ICCup Map Pack.

4. Follow their instructions to install; read their rules.

5. Play!
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 21 2009 07:20 GMT
#53
This is great! I've already gotten games with kick-ass players such as Idra and Kawaii.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 07:35:00
November 21 2009 07:34 GMT
#54
WHAAAT?

"Speaking of threats, I have to ask this one now - what happened with koll at WCG, and what are your thoughts on that series?

He played better than me that match and deserved to win, but I definitely hope we'll play again in TSL or some other tournament soon"


Idra, i'm worried! Are you ill too?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
November 21 2009 07:34 GMT
#55
thanks to kawaii for streaming his games in an event with so much on the line. much appreciated.
wraiths go pew pew
Me_ToKa
Profile Joined September 2009
Bulgaria309 Posts
November 21 2009 07:38 GMT
#56
The Draco dominance!!!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
November 21 2009 07:44 GMT
#57
GLHF all that are laddering, hoping that ret will stream some of his ladder games
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
epjx31
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United Kingdom324 Posts
November 21 2009 07:48 GMT
#58
DRACO come on !
Mind for OSL!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 21 2009 07:56 GMT
#59
Wow, just checked out the standings. Both ret and Idra tearing it up with 13-0. Much thanks to R1CH for that cool bot.
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
November 21 2009 08:20 GMT
#60
kwark is number one! props tp him, but ret and idra at 15-0, but ret at c- idra still D+. amazing how much of a difference motw makes
Dwell
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
November 21 2009 08:32 GMT
#61
wow, already midway through C-
that was fast
I feel like pwning noobs
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 08:54:44
November 21 2009 08:39 GMT
#62
On November 21 2009 16:34 spydernoob wrote:
thanks to kawaii for streaming his games in an event with so much on the line. much appreciated.

That 52 minute game against TSL-P.Jaworski (mistrzzz) was an awesome game to watch!! I can't believe he pulled it off!

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=24838
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
November 21 2009 08:47 GMT
#63
go draco
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 21 2009 08:48 GMT
#64
Kawaii's game was pretty crazy. Definitely recommend everyone to watch.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 21 2009 08:53 GMT
#65
giving everyone a 2 day start Come monday there will be a big nerd playing a LOT
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 21 2009 08:59 GMT
#66
Wow, so Koll is no joke. He's the real deal. From the horse's mouth his style is more "Korean" than even Rets! And speaking of Ret, he says his ZvT and his ZvZ is among the top of foreigner players, and that he has a good chance of making it to the top 3 if he avoids the best tosses or improves his ZvP. O_O! I'm so excited to see such a young zerg player with all the potential in the world.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
November 21 2009 09:10 GMT
#67
i'm really excited and discouraged at the same time... the guys who always win just started it again in an impressive way

gogo kwark
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
November 21 2009 09:14 GMT
#68
GL Y'ALL!
I'm watching..from a distant. Now's the perfect time for us noobs to get slaughtered on iccup :D
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 09:15:13
November 21 2009 09:15 GMT
#69
It's so much fun being bashed to pieces by the top players. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 21 2009 09:25 GMT
#70
I made a TSL account and clicked join team on the link here . Can i start laddering now ?
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
November 21 2009 09:26 GMT
#71
On November 21 2009 18:25 raga4ka wrote:
I made a TSL account and clicked join team on the link here . Can i start laddering now ?

Yes
kvilx
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Poland198 Posts
November 21 2009 09:30 GMT
#72
Yup, Kawaii vs Mistrzzz was hell of a game. I'm glad I watched it live.
Day[9] For President
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 09:35:01
November 21 2009 09:31 GMT
#73
On November 21 2009 18:26 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 18:25 raga4ka wrote:
I made a TSL account and clicked join team on the link here . Can i start laddering now ?

Yes


Thank you ! Looking forward to reaching C/C+ . Also were can i find the rules . And my only question is do i have to play only players with TSL tags or whoever i want ?
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 09:42:43
November 21 2009 09:37 GMT
#74
On November 21 2009 18:31 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 18:26 HnR)Insane wrote:
On November 21 2009 18:25 raga4ka wrote:
I made a TSL account and clicked join team on the link here . Can i start laddering now ?

Yes


Thank you ! Looking forward to reaching C/C+ . Also were can i find the rules . And my only question is do i have to play only players with TSL tags or whoever i want ?

You can play whoever you want. Make sure you follow iccup's rules for how much you play vs a person. Also note that we have specific rules for the end of the ladder about the stats you are allowed vs a player

On the final day of the ladder, players may only play another player to a difference of three games. For example, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2, 6-3 are all acceptable last day series scores against a single player, while 4-0 is not. Once the score reaches a three game margin for either player, the players must stop playing each other.


edit: TSL specific rules can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=105717 (scroll down past the caster intros / maps)
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
November 21 2009 10:06 GMT
#75
OMFG this is going to be a killer tournament !!! :D great interviews too !!!

GO GO GO
T H C makes ppl happy
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
November 21 2009 10:41 GMT
#76
On November 21 2009 17:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
giving everyone a 2 day start Come monday there will be a big nerd playing a LOT



I like that !
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
November 21 2009 10:57 GMT
#77
YES I'm gonna ladder so hard from now
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
November 21 2009 11:05 GMT
#78
Sometimes the adding players to the team page screws up a little and gets stuck on Waiting instead of Accepted.
So if you're not still not on the team after a while, or didn't get a pm to go with your denial. Try sending another request to the team. Thanks.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
November 21 2009 11:15 GMT
#79
tasteless and mondragon are playin'.

awesome
I am not good with quotes
kvilx
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Poland198 Posts
November 21 2009 11:17 GMT
#80
OH WOW, TSL clan totally owning this event.

+ Show Spoiler +
Day[9] For President
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
November 21 2009 11:18 GMT
#81
OMG I LOVE DRACO !!!
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
November 21 2009 11:47 GMT
#82
I'm not sure I'll join the ladder now, by the time I would, most players I would have liked to face are past the D+ ranks already:-p

As for the interviews, I was surprised that Idra has complimented a foreign player that he lost to. What has this world come to?:-p
(Though, mentioning how ret deserves second place clearly suggests that Idra "deserves" that first spot, so there is ego basis to some nice drama yet)
BW fighting!
TS
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia39 Posts
November 21 2009 11:56 GMT
#83
"The Draco" hahha :D
Anyway, ret was kinda evil with that "i hope a toss kicks out kolll for me", but i guess he was joking.

tsl 2 will be a lot fun. i like how TL hypes up everything they do. :-) it's much appreciated.
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
November 21 2009 12:10 GMT
#84
Woot, just got stomped by Louder :D
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
November 21 2009 12:18 GMT
#85
On November 21 2009 18:15 Holgerius wrote:
It's so much fun being bashed to pieces by the top players. XD

haha, your matchlist is insane
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 21 2009 13:10 GMT
#86
haha "not mana" ;p
great interviews, gogo Idra & Ret!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
November 21 2009 13:13 GMT
#87
What's the deal with ret? Shouldn't he be living at the estro house?
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 13:32:51
November 21 2009 13:17 GMT
#88
Sweet!

I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 21 2009 13:39 GMT
#89
"the time of The Draco dominance is close."

sup
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
November 21 2009 13:54 GMT
#90
PLZ accept my request
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 21 2009 14:00 GMT
#91
On November 21 2009 17:39 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 16:34 spydernoob wrote:
thanks to kawaii for streaming his games in an event with so much on the line. much appreciated.

That 52 minute game against TSL-P.Jaworski (mistrzzz) was an awesome game to watch!! I can't believe he pulled it off!

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=24838


Woot Mistrzzz! Awesome

Thanks for replay
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
November 21 2009 14:01 GMT
#92
Fuck, I just got back to Seoul to find this. My weekend is ruined. Thanks TSL.
Moderator
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
November 21 2009 14:36 GMT
#93
Chill, why are you not #1 on the ladder by now like last time?!
We make signature, then defense it.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 21 2009 15:13 GMT
#94
Incontrol is a baller, giving everyone a 2 day headstart, hope the manly ultralisk will qualify!
In the woods, there lurks..
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-22 02:37:01
November 21 2009 16:21 GMT
#95
R1ch Do your magic, live ladder view on TL!
R1ch do your magic on TSL!

Edit: Magic already done. You are awesome!
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
November 21 2009 16:51 GMT
#96
GL & HF all!
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
November 21 2009 16:54 GMT
#97
Moar ladder streaming guys!
Whenever I see a dropship, my asshole tingles, because it knows whats coming... - TheAntZ
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
November 21 2009 17:26 GMT
#98
LOL 5 games have I been playing all of those 5 was TSL accounts and all of those 5 where toss and all they did was forge wallin at my chocke on HBR. MUST CHEESE TO GET POINTS!
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 21 2009 19:24 GMT
#99
idra tsl2 champion gogogo!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
November 21 2009 20:08 GMT
#100
Whoa KwarK at #1 ? nice going mate ^_^
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
November 21 2009 20:25 GMT
#101
is incontrol actually phil hellmuth??

GL HF GG!!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 21 2009 21:22 GMT
#102
This is a cool tounry!! But sadly I will not join as this is my first season and I'm only in the mid to high D+ ranks !

So at this point might as well keep all my stats on my main account.

But hope more good foreign tournaments like this come around when I'm better or SC2 whiever comes first !
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
November 21 2009 21:34 GMT
#103
On November 22 2009 01:21 SirGlinG wrote:
R1ch Do your magic, live ladder view on TL!
R1ch do your magic on TSL!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106047 ???
Administrator
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
November 21 2009 22:08 GMT
#104
WTF?!?!?!? Idra not bming in an interview? Yesssss He rocks!
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
November 22 2009 01:35 GMT
#105
ret deserves second
so idra deserves 3rd? oO
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-22 05:54:45
November 22 2009 05:54 GMT
#106
i see draco refer to himself in third person often in interviews. i like that.
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
November 22 2009 08:38 GMT
#107
Draco's pretty good at proxy gating but I think theres a bunch of big macro maps in TSL so hopefully he wont be able to win a bo5 off of it.


^_^
Wake up Mr. B!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
November 22 2009 10:48 GMT
#108
lol at mana dodging koreans harda
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
November 22 2009 18:10 GMT
#109
oh fuck yes a motivated Draco, this'll be sweet!!!!!!!
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
November 22 2009 19:11 GMT
#110
go Draco. You are my hero.
CJ Entusman #24
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
November 23 2009 04:17 GMT
#111
Serously, mana has played like 5 koreans total
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/871199/1x1.html
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
November 23 2009 07:11 GMT
#112
go draco pwn the hell
oN_Silva
Profile Joined October 2009
197 Posts
November 23 2009 12:49 GMT
#113
idra is cool, to compliment colll and still having some confidence is what i wanted to see. also i like that he realized that his training strategies failed, he seems to learn from his mistakes

so gl idra

( i still want some Zerg, like mondragon (fav) or ret / coll to win tho^^)
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
November 23 2009 14:02 GMT
#114
Waiting for Kolll to sign up and own this tourny...
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
November 23 2009 14:04 GMT
#115
On November 22 2009 06:22 Diamondback2 wrote:
This is a cool tounry!! But sadly I will not join as this is my first season and I'm only in the mid to high D+ ranks !


Who cares? This is the biggest foreign SC tournament there is, and you should play it just so you can tell your kids 10 years from now "fuck yeah, i was schooling newbies at the D ranks in TSL!"

I'm D+ at best and i still participate.
We make signature, then defense it.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 23 2009 19:11 GMT
#116
awesome interviews
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
November 23 2009 19:26 GMT
#117
Gogogo.

Good luck to all of you guys.
duckhunt
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada311 Posts
November 23 2009 20:34 GMT
#118
<3 chill
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
November 24 2009 02:58 GMT
#119
good luck guys, i'm only D so i don't think i should join! but i'll enjoy watching :D
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 24 2009 06:56 GMT
#120
On November 23 2009 23:02 Scorcher2k wrote:
Waiting for Kolll to sign up and own this tourny...


probably he's like "fuck those guys, i'm not a troll"

"oh shit i have a good chance at winning $10,000"

*signs up*
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 08:47:15
November 24 2009 07:46 GMT
#121
I still don't understand this mentality of calling a strategy that surprises you and makes you lose "bad." Clearly such a strategy is chosen for a reason, and if it wins, it has served that purpose.

lol @ "it's nothing special, the organizers are just competent." I don't know if Idra knows what the definition of special is but in the seemingly vast sea of incompetence that he has painted the foreign community's tournament organization as being it would be apropos to suggest that one that is run efficiently and economically by dedicated staff would indeed be special.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 24 2009 08:50 GMT
#122
lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
November 24 2009 09:10 GMT
#123
HAha i remember this, epic times!
Studying Chinese~
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
November 25 2009 06:21 GMT
#124
Goodluck everyone. Looks like Idra is tearing it up atm.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
November 25 2009 19:52 GMT
#125
"Draco's pretty good at proxy gating"

Made me laugh! keep it up IdrA and Ret! you guys are great
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 22:43:56
November 25 2009 22:43 GMT
#126
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
November 25 2009 22:55 GMT
#127
f91 is 22-0 and quickly climbing up the ladder. wonder where he will lands eventually.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
November 26 2009 01:50 GMT
#128
ARE they releasing all replays? idra's and ret's also? and white-ra
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
November 26 2009 01:56 GMT
#129
On November 26 2009 07:55 iloahz wrote:
f91 is 22-0 and quickly climbing up the ladder. wonder where he will lands eventually.

wait, chinese are allowed to play?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 26 2009 02:25 GMT
#130
On November 24 2009 16:46 Ganfei wrote:
I still don't understand this mentality of calling a strategy that surprises you and makes you lose "bad." Clearly such a strategy is chosen for a reason, and if it wins, it has served that purpose.

lol @ "it's nothing special, the organizers are just competent." I don't know if Idra knows what the definition of special is but in the seemingly vast sea of incompetence that he has painted the foreign community's tournament organization as being it would be apropos to suggest that one that is run efficiently and economically by dedicated staff would indeed be special.

jesus
you STILL havent gotten that cock out of your ass?
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
November 26 2009 02:35 GMT
#131
On November 26 2009 10:50 Piste wrote:
ARE they releasing all replays? idra's and ret's also? and white-ra
We released all ladder replays of the top48 ladder players after TSL had ended last time. I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen again.
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
November 27 2009 04:10 GMT
#132
"Personally I hope a dirty Protoss gets rid of him for me." haha

I'm glad that Idra is giving kolll the respect he deserves, instead of dismissing his losses. I hope to see kolll go far
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