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Katowice25012 Posts
On November 06 2009 22:36 jtype wrote:Regarding Ruby building 500 starports - I can't believe I didn't see the relevance to him being on ACE, lol. I'm suprised I even remember my name sometimes.. 
More importantly, when was the last time an ACE member got to do an in-game ceremony against a well known proleague regular? Every part of it is great.
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Absolutely insane writeup. Love these articles.
And why oh why didnt I see the interview where Oz coach said JD would not be sent for ace. Would be top 50 with flash instead of JD.
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with all due respect to coach Cho of Oz, HE NEEDS TO GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF!!!
when the hell will he realize that no one on his team has ANY chance of beating ppl like flash or bisu EXCEPT JD!!!!
no matter what idiot sc fans try to say about lomo or killer, THEY ARE BAD!!!
last yr, they put jd for like, every match, and look where it got them: SILVER MEDAL
hey, when something is working, PLEASE CONSIDER STICKING TO IT!!!
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BeSt vs Flash on Fighting Spirit
The two best macro players on earth, playing in their best matchups
Flash's TvP is terrifying, and my vote for the best in the world. But do you really think it's his best? Note that he sports a staggering 71% TvT. And his TvZ has recently exceeded his TvP percentage-wise as well, making TvP statistically his worst matchup.
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United States10328 Posts
nice. however, should it be "peace of mind" instead of "piece of mind"? (lol all those puns were lulzy)
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On November 07 2009 05:47 Japakazol wrote:Show nested quote +BeSt vs Flash on Fighting Spirit
The two best macro players on earth, playing in their best matchups Flash's TvP is terrifying, and my vote for the best in the world. But do you really think it's his best? Note that he sports a staggering 71% TvT. And his TvZ has recently exceeded his TvP percentage-wise as well, making TvP statistically his worst matchup. Flash became known for his really strong TvP. Though hs TvT is certainly strongest his TvZ / TvP is equally strong imo. (We dont know cus he neither played Jaedong / Effort / Calm or Bisu / Stork lately)
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Katowice25012 Posts
While all of Flash's matchups are terrifying right now, I think its fair to refer to his TvP as his best in this kind of context. It is not only the matchup he became known for, he singlehandedly made the TvP statistic on Medusa last season look way more balanced than it "actually" was (going a combined 11-1 on both, during a time when no terran was winning TvPs).
His TvP remains masterful even during times of protoss dominance and during times when he is playing 'below his best' overall.
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Really great writeup, matches to look forward to is really nice. Interview with the PUNisher was funny as hell, thanks ^^
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On November 07 2009 05:34 MrHickoryHam54 wrote: with all due respect to coach Cho of Oz, HE NEEDS TO GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF!!!
when the hell will he realize that no one on his team has ANY chance of beating ppl like flash or bisu EXCEPT JD!!!!
no matter what idiot sc fans try to say about lomo or killer, THEY ARE BAD!!!
last yr, they put jd for like, every match, and look where it got them: SILVER MEDAL
hey, when something is working, PLEASE CONSIDER STICKING TO IT!!!
I get the feeling that it's a part of an unspoken deal betweeen Oz Cho and Jaedong's parents in order to keep Jaedong playing. Jaedong's parents legally makes the contract decisions and were really unhappy about Jaedong's stress.
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On November 07 2009 05:47 Japakazol wrote:Show nested quote +BeSt vs Flash on Fighting Spirit
The two best macro players on earth, playing in their best matchups Flash's TvP is terrifying, and my vote for the best in the world. But do you really think it's his best? Note that he sports a staggering 71% TvT. And his TvZ has recently exceeded his TvP percentage-wise as well, making TvP statistically his worst matchup.
He'll always be known for his revolution of TvP, statistics aside, FlaSh is to TvP what Bisu is to PvZ.
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Killer is gonna get killed.
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On November 07 2009 08:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 05:47 Japakazol wrote:BeSt vs Flash on Fighting Spirit
The two best macro players on earth, playing in their best matchups Flash's TvP is terrifying, and my vote for the best in the world. But do you really think it's his best? Note that he sports a staggering 71% TvT. And his TvZ has recently exceeded his TvP percentage-wise as well, making TvP statistically his worst matchup. He'll always be known for his revolution of TvP, statistics aside, FlaSh is to TvP what Bisu is to PvZ. Is it to the same degree, though? I really don't know, if you could show me, that'd be great.
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On November 07 2009 11:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 08:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 07 2009 05:47 Japakazol wrote:BeSt vs Flash on Fighting Spirit
The two best macro players on earth, playing in their best matchups Flash's TvP is terrifying, and my vote for the best in the world. But do you really think it's his best? Note that he sports a staggering 71% TvT. And his TvZ has recently exceeded his TvP percentage-wise as well, making TvP statistically his worst matchup. He'll always be known for his revolution of TvP, statistics aside, FlaSh is to TvP what Bisu is to PvZ. Is it to the same degree, though? I really don't know, if you could show me, that'd be great.
It's definitely not, imo. Flash made a somewhat minor innovation to TvP by getting a really fast armory; his TvP prowess stems mostly from flawless mechanics and macro than from some kind of strategic revolution. Bisu is a mechanical fiend as well, but his contribution to the matchup dynamic was far more profound. Lesser players can copy the "Bisu build" with a somewhat high degree of fidelity, whereas copying the "flash build" really amounts to "getting really good at everything."
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Flash almost completely obsoleted a unit that had been used consistently -- for years -- and was thought to be the CAUSE of the PvT imbalance in the lategame. You're absolutely insane if you don't think Flash's build is comparable to Bisu's build in match up changing terms. There's a reason 90% of the time you only see Arbiters instead of carriers lategame, now.
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great read ^^
I'm hoping for a gg between savior and pusan
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oh my god the punisher's interview is absolutely amazing
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United States47024 Posts
On November 07 2009 00:53 MrHickoryHam54 wrote: but u cant rely on stork to carry the team. hes not jaedong.... Yeah. You can't rely on Stork to be Jaedong when Jaedong's "not Jaedong" either.
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Nooo! SKT vs KT is Monday morning for me  
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On November 07 2009 11:49 TwoToneTerran wrote: Flash almost completely obsoleted a unit that had been used consistently -- for years -- and was thought to be the CAUSE of the PvT imbalance in the lategame. You're absolutely insane if you don't think Flash's build is comparable to Bisu's build in match up changing terms. There's a reason 90% of the time you only see Arbiters instead of carriers lategame, now.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12150_Flash_vs_JangBi/vod
Case closed, sir. Flash didn't obsolete shit. There is a reason that arbiters are used more often now, and that reason is that arbiters kick ass up and down the block without requiring a period of vulnerability as you tech switch, not because flash made carriers useless.
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