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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 05 2009 04:16 GMT
#101
On October 05 2009 11:54 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2009 10:36 Fontong wrote:
Are people really saying that maps with two entrances to the nat aren't imbalanced Z > P?

That's just bullshit.

Depends, Asgard can be walled off to effectively minimize the imbalance that is 2 nat entrance...
+ Show Spoiler +

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If you have to make 3 cannons to FE, then there is something wrong.
Writerptrk
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 05 2009 04:23 GMT
#102
Amazing write-up, thanks! Very excited about the new PL season now!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 05 2009 04:34 GMT
#103
SKT1 is actually not doing so hot; if the maps require dependable zergs...they should have bought Jaedong in the off season.

I think CJ and STX will do well this season.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Raiken
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada49 Posts
October 05 2009 04:51 GMT
#104
Protoss Just sort of dies here, good thing I play zerg. Once these maps become used in iCCup, then I will be winning more games... MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Blah.
Death is something that you should embrace, instead of running away from it. Fantasy supporter :D
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 05 2009 05:08 GMT
#105
On October 05 2009 13:16 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2009 11:54 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On October 05 2009 10:36 Fontong wrote:
Are people really saying that maps with two entrances to the nat aren't imbalanced Z > P?

That's just bullshit.

Depends, Asgard can be walled off to effectively minimize the imbalance that is 2 nat entrance...
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


[image loading]

If you have to make 3 cannons to FE, then there is something wrong.

The third one is of course optional.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
October 05 2009 05:12 GMT
#106
awesome... just awesome... thanks for this
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
October 05 2009 06:26 GMT
#107
protoss graveyardz
bisu fanboy
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
October 05 2009 08:36 GMT
#108
Protoss is the victor in only 4 out of 16 D: Surely graveyard, but let's believe in Legend of the Fall!!!!!!
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
October 05 2009 08:44 GMT
#109
So they do this pre-season map"testing" to see if there are any imbalances in the maps. Clearly there are. Does that mean anything will change or is this the final take?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 05 2009 08:52 GMT
#110
cool report!
Wir haben zuwenig Vespingas!
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
October 05 2009 08:53 GMT
#111
Hyuk will just have to bring the pain for skt1
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
October 05 2009 10:13 GMT
#112
great writeup.very detailed.looks like protoss players are screwed.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
October 05 2009 10:31 GMT
#113
lol @ silverwing. that map is the best! how can you not see that? big and small bridge.. very interesting how that will pan out.
Bisu... ;-(
elar
Profile Joined May 2008
Panama11 Posts
October 05 2009 11:12 GMT
#114
lets see if bisu can win in those maps : O
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
October 05 2009 12:55 GMT
#115
can't wait for this to start.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 05 2009 13:37 GMT
#116
Hope they keep Destination, Medusa and Heatbreak ridge for another season. Otherwise it will be just meaningless drama.
The copyright of this post belongs solely to me. Nobody else, not teamliquid, not greetech and not even blizzard have any share of this copyright. You can copy, distribute, use in commercial purposes the content of this post or parts of it freely.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 05 2009 15:21 GMT
#117
I think that actually some gay boss at the KeSpa map making team is trying to seduce Jaedong. But meh, if thats the way to create the guy to "the best player of all time, most dominant mofo in history of the esports its not even debatable, bisu sux" then so be it
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 05 2009 16:03 GMT
#118
Arg. I've had enough TvTs and ZvZs to last me a long time the last season.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 05 2009 16:18 GMT
#119
Fucking retarded maps against toss as many of us said when we first looked at them xD Not really looking forward to the next PL if these are the used maps. I usually just skip most of the TvT's and ZvZ's (even TvZ's if there's not some special player in them... like JD, Flash or Fantasy). So yeah.
Revolutionist fan
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 05 2009 17:58 GMT
#120
fuck this, i'm stickin to bgh on us east till next season T-T
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
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