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Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 20:16:05
September 12 2009 20:11 GMT
#21
Can't somebody else ask questions? :/
I am talking about Ver. I have hard time to even understand what he is saying.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
September 12 2009 20:40 GMT
#22
That was cool!
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 12 2009 20:41 GMT
#23
That was great <3
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
September 12 2009 20:41 GMT
#24
That was one of most kickass events on TL ever. Very insightful commentary.
Neroin
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 20:44:37
September 12 2009 20:43 GMT
#25
Thanks everybody for doing this! This (and more) is why TL is superior!

Edit: ESPORTS!!!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 12 2009 20:46 GMT
#26
Thank you so much, learned alot!
thompzn
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden42 Posts
September 12 2009 21:06 GMT
#27
That was awsome! Thanks to all involved.

If anyone wants to watch (or rather hear) it before the mp3 gets out it's on-demand at Mystlord's livestream.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 21:12:53
September 12 2009 21:12 GMT
#28
Any feedback? Suggestions?

Seemed a little dry to me, but I don't know if that can be helped when you're discussing pure strategy... :O!
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 12 2009 21:21 GMT
#29
I dont think it was dry at all. Whens the mp3 gonna be out?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 21:29:52
September 12 2009 21:28 GMT
#30
It would have been more interesting with visuals. Maybe if you guys actually all watched the vod together on stream somehow and had watched it before and noted the times you wanted to point something out (or ask a specific, detailed question) it would have been more interesting than a straight up question and answer panel. The questions were okay, but seemed a little basic to me, and the answers day and idra and artosis gave, though obviously of good quality, were attempting to condense thousands of games of experience into just a few sentences. Thus the discussion felt pretty broad and generalized, and at the same time confining, and while interesting from a metagame perspective, I wasn't sure what the point of it was. Was the goal for us to learn mech TvZ so we can add stuff to liquipedia? If so I think changing the format from a question and answer session would be helpful.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
September 12 2009 21:30 GMT
#31
it would be easier if it was skype or some other voice software w/ no lag where we could joke around a little bit more

the lag makes conversation a little stuttery
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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
September 12 2009 22:05 GMT
#32
On September 13 2009 06:30 Day[9] wrote:
it would be easier if it was skype or some other voice software w/ no lag where we could joke around a little bit more

the lag makes conversation a little stuttery


So use skype next time then

It is even easier to use than ventrilo.
I pwn noobs
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
September 12 2009 22:14 GMT
#33
Skype has more latency than Vent.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
September 12 2009 22:23 GMT
#34
On September 13 2009 06:28 integral wrote:
It would have been more interesting with visuals. Maybe if you guys actually all watched the vod together on stream somehow and had watched it before and noted the times you wanted to point something out (or ask a specific, detailed question) it would have been more interesting than a straight up question and answer panel. The questions were okay, but seemed a little basic to me, and the answers day and idra and artosis gave, though obviously of good quality, were attempting to condense thousands of games of experience into just a few sentences. Thus the discussion felt pretty broad and generalized, and at the same time confining, and while interesting from a metagame perspective, I wasn't sure what the point of it was. Was the goal for us to learn mech TvZ so we can add stuff to liquipedia? If so I think changing the format from a question and answer session would be helpful.

Yeah you raised quite a good point there. I got some requests during the cast to show the VODs in question, but I decided against it because we would be switching around too much.

In addition, the VODs combined runs to about an hour or so of material, and I think that if we spent that much time on those VODs, we would either come to a point where no action was going on, or the commentators would be interrupted by something else that needs to be pointed out, which might have been a bit too confined. I felt that the format used was fine, but it's hard to generalize an entire match up with in an hour and thirty minutes.

And if you thought the questions were basic, you could have added your own input and thoughts in the Q&A - Questions thread in the Strategy section, which didn't get too much attention until the last minute.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 22:43:41
September 12 2009 22:43 GMT
#35
day9 was kind of dominating the conversation, idra did not speak enough.

EDIT: was cool and interesting :D
I am not good with quotes
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 12 2009 22:54 GMT
#36
On September 13 2009 06:12 Chill wrote:
Any feedback? Suggestions?

Seemed a little dry to me, but I don't know if that can be helped when you're discussing pure strategy... :O!


thought it was awesome
however maybe when the hosts asks the question, he should immediately indicate who answers first. I noticed you started to do this a lot more towards the end, and I think it could really work out well on future casts (if there are any :3)

Other than that, it was fine. Wasn't bored at any time and it was pretty informative
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
mg
Profile Joined August 2009
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 23:08:36
September 12 2009 23:08 GMT
#37
On September 13 2009 06:30 Day[9] wrote:
it would be easier if it was skype or some other voice software w/ no lag where we could joke around a little bit more

the lag makes conversation a little stuttery



Mumble is the closest you can get to lagless.

http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
⋆S⋆T⋆A⋆R⋆S⋆ ⋆B⋆A⋆B⋆Y⋆
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 12 2009 23:18 GMT
#38
On September 13 2009 05:11 Polis wrote:
Can't somebody else ask questions? :/
I am talking about Ver. I have hard time to even understand what he is saying.


I understood everything Ver said very easily...

I only jumped was listening for around 30~40 minutes but it was really insightful and entertaining.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
September 12 2009 23:52 GMT
#39
I only managed to catch a little bit of it and that was very interesting and fun to listen to as well, very much looking forward to the mp3.
觀過斯知仁矣.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
September 12 2009 23:54 GMT
#40
On September 13 2009 07:23 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2009 06:28 integral wrote:
It would have been more interesting with visuals. Maybe if you guys actually all watched the vod together on stream somehow and had watched it before and noted the times you wanted to point something out (or ask a specific, detailed question) it would have been more interesting than a straight up question and answer panel. The questions were okay, but seemed a little basic to me, and the answers day and idra and artosis gave, though obviously of good quality, were attempting to condense thousands of games of experience into just a few sentences. Thus the discussion felt pretty broad and generalized, and at the same time confining, and while interesting from a metagame perspective, I wasn't sure what the point of it was. Was the goal for us to learn mech TvZ so we can add stuff to liquipedia? If so I think changing the format from a question and answer session would be helpful.

In addition, the VODs combined runs to about an hour or so of material, and I think that if we spent that much time on those VODs, we would either come to a point where no action was going on, or the commentators would be interrupted by something else that needs to be pointed out, which might have been a bit too confined. I felt that the format used was fine, but it's hard to generalize an entire match up with in an hour and thirty minutes.


Maybe one game could serve as a backdrop, or they could just focus on the build order and the early game, or the person streaming could simply skip around the VOD in question until each person on the panel's points had been addressed and discussed. Assuming the audience has already watched the games in question, this shouldn't break continuity too much. And, of course, there is a pause feature. There would be no need to treat it like a live commentary, it'd be more like a seminar.
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