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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 10 2009 15:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
everyone wanted to fuck me over see, the town the mafia, it was all a huge ploy ahhhh
I mean, my plan also stemmed from the fact that I thought the mafia was in a much worse situation then we actually were (I'm sure all the other mafia members felt the same way). Once Showtime made it clear he was the DT, and said he knew nearly everyone, it seemed really hopeless, especially after Acidic got killed. This past day, when I posted talking mainly to Showtime (any place I used O Gracious Leader), it became apparent that Showtime did not have a grasp on the situation. And this was furthered proved by the fact he wanted to lynch based off of clue analysis. If he really knew everyone and everything that was happening there would've been no need for that. This also led me to believe that LayOffRage and glugluk were not actually the veterans. My picks for mafia lynch that night would've been those two, just to see what would've happened.
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Oh also what's with me and Godfathers...seem to always do something with them...talk to them (two of them), RC them, medic Prot them...hahaha
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On August 10 2009 16:17 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
NIGHT / DAY ACTIONS:
Worst Day one ever?
Top three vote getters were all blue.
Town lynches a vigilante (OneSnakeOnATrain / redtooth), almost kills an awesome player who is a veteran (blanket / MrBabyHands), and a detective leads the vote-getting for much of the day (best[alive] / Showtime!).
The other veteran, Spoonman (Malongo), tells me he is going to be without internet for the rest of the game.
Two people role claim as veterans, neither are veterans. Neither are mafia either. The first is glugluk (Incognito), a FREAKING MEDIC. The other is LayOffRage (RebirthofLegend), a townie.
Mafia chooses KomabaHajime (BloodyC0bbler) as godfather, he chooses to be a townie.
NIGHT ONE ACTIONS:
Glugluk (Incognito) protects KomabaHajime (BloodyC0bbler), the Godfather.
Mafia hit list rough draft is Sacrifice (Shikyo, townie) because he is "insanely intelligent" as well as MafiaAreJerks (L, Detective).
Best[alive] (Showtime!) checks PowerOverwhelming (vivi57, mafia) and is told mafia.
Mafiaarejerks (L) checks Acidic Pirate (empyrean, mafia) and is told mafia.
Mafia covers glugluk.
Mafia hits mafiaarejerks (L, detective), Psychofish (Qatol, townie), Sacrifice (Shikyo, townie).
I am not insane.
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Night two:
hit list was the two greens that died + spoonman (malongo, a vet. malongo had lost his internet during day 1 and told me he couldnt play anymore)
moceanu hit acidic pirate.
cover was on moceanu.
showtime (best[alive]) checked blanket and found he was veteran. He told me he thought blanket was foolishness and mafia. When he saw blanket as blue, he figured blanket was foolishness and godfather but I guess he figured out that was wrong somehow.
glugluk protected Best[alive]
once again the other medic (scaramanga aka roflsupplecakes) didn't prot anyone even after I asked him through MSN to pick someone he said he didn't know who to pick so he wouldn't pick anyone.
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Oh and malongo you are a liar...you were a vet.
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On August 10 2009 16:21 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:17 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
NIGHT / DAY ACTIONS:
Worst Day one ever?
Top three vote getters were all blue.
Town lynches a vigilante (OneSnakeOnATrain / redtooth), almost kills an awesome player who is a veteran (blanket / MrBabyHands), and a detective leads the vote-getting for much of the day (best[alive] / Showtime!).
The other veteran, Spoonman (Malongo), tells me he is going to be without internet for the rest of the game.
Two people role claim as veterans, neither are veterans. Neither are mafia either. The first is glugluk (Incognito), a FREAKING MEDIC. The other is LayOffRage (RebirthofLegend), a townie.
Mafia chooses KomabaHajime (BloodyC0bbler) as godfather, he chooses to be a townie.
NIGHT ONE ACTIONS:
Glugluk (Incognito) protects KomabaHajime (BloodyC0bbler), the Godfather.
Mafia hit list rough draft is Sacrifice (Shikyo, townie) because he is "insanely intelligent" as well as MafiaAreJerks (L, Detective).
Best[alive] (Showtime!) checks PowerOverwhelming (vivi57, mafia) and is told mafia.
Mafiaarejerks (L) checks Acidic Pirate (empyrean, mafia) and is told mafia.
Mafia covers glugluk.
Mafia hits mafiaarejerks (L, detective), Psychofish (Qatol, townie), Sacrifice (Shikyo, townie). I am not insane.
I dunno I thought the strategy was pretty surprising. I guess it ended up doing no harm though. The "insanely intelligent" quote is from BC so Shikyo should be proud he played well.
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On August 10 2009 16:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
So what was the idea behind the vet plan then? My thought was that you had to be a vet, and that way it would be easier for you to catch any liars if they claimed. That whole thing seemed to fall apart though :\
It was a stupid fucking idea. The whole vet plan. The reason I called was to let the mafia have a the thought that we could be veterans in the back of their minds and avoid hitting us. While hopefully the other two veterans would remain silent and increase the chance of the mafia hitting them.
Its why after that happened I tried to shut up all thoughts of the vet plan. My goal was to not let it deter the town and it just be a thought in the back of the mafias minds. Glukyuk's plan was so convoluted and complex that it couldn't help the town and hinged on a lot of stuff that most likely wouldn't of happened.
Its why I tried to shush up the whole plan and forget about it after the role call, I knew it was dumb and wouldn't work and figured most people would ignore it afterwords. However the mafia must use all the information they have including that and just hope its true. It will make them second think hitting us and hopefully hit other veterans or medic protected people.
(Glukyuk actually turned out to be a medic which is kind of funny.)
This entire thing failed however. Azura who I was PMing with along with glukyuk told BC that we both faked the role claim which kind of sucks. Almost everything I PMed with Azura (who I talked with most of the time) I also posted in the thread. Mainly about clue analysis and some suspects.
For a little while I actually thought Azura might of been BC, he seemed pretty logical but said something stupid in defense of PO, but when I harassed him about it he changed his mind and admitted it was stupid.
BC somehow knew I was either Glukyuk or LayOffRage after a few days, but knew I faked and they never hit me. My conversations with Glukyuk just consisted of me telling him his plan was stupid and to just hush up about it and let it go by.
I posted my clue interpretations to try to encourage some conversation, but at the same time Showtime! started being a douche bag and playing like a dick. The entire game I did the best I could to respect the rules and not try to sniff out smurfs and phish around on aim for peoples names. BC was a complete accident.
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and nothing personal incognito <3 it kept you save and worked out for the best didn't it :D?
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i didnt pm to BC at all this game. i talked to showtime about it cause he was trying to figure out the vets, and i showed him that neither of you guys were vets. he sent that to BC
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On August 10 2009 16:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
So what was the idea behind the vet plan then? My thought was that you had to be a vet, and that way it would be easier for you to catch any liars if they claimed. That whole thing seemed to fall apart though :\ It was a stupid fucking idea. The whole vet plan. The reason I called was to let the mafia have a the thought that we could be veterans in the back of their minds and avoid hitting us. While hopefully the other two veterans would remain silent and increase the chance of the mafia hitting them. Its why after that happened I tried to shut up all thoughts of the vet plan. My goal was to not let it deter the town and it just be a thought in the back of the mafias minds. Glukyuk's plan was so convoluted and complex that it couldn't help the town and hinged on a lot of stuff that most likely wouldn't of happened. Its why I tried to shush up the whole plan and forget about it after the role call, I knew it was dumb and wouldn't work and figured most people would ignore it afterwords. However the mafia must use all the information they have including that and just hope its true. It will make them second think hitting us and hopefully hit other veterans or medic protected people. (Glukyuk actually turned out to be a medic which is kind of funny.) This entire thing failed however. Azura who I was PMing with along with glukyuk told BC that we both faked the role claim which kind of sucks. Almost everything I PMed with Azura (who I talked with most of the time) I also posted in the thread. Mainly about clue analysis and some suspects. For a little while I actually thought Azura might of been BC, he seemed pretty logical but said something stupid in defense of PO, but when I harassed him about it he changed his mind and admitted it was stupid. BC somehow knew I was either Glukyuk or LayOffRage after a few days, but knew I faked and they never hit me. My conversations with Glukyuk just consisted of me telling him his plan was stupid and to just hush up about it and let it go by. I posted my clue interpretations to try to encourage some conversation, but at the same time Showtime! started being a douche bag and playing like a dick. The entire game I did the best I could to respect the rules and not try to sniff out smurfs and phish around on aim for peoples names. BC was a complete accident.
There is not really any harm in claiming vet. Since its a role town usually tends to ignore but mafia think about a lot. So even though the plan never went through nothing bad really happened.
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On August 10 2009 16:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
and nothing personal incognito <3 it kept you save and worked out for the best didn't it :D?
Ya. It was a strange convoluted plan but I thought I'd try it out since it was a smurf game. bad idea ya?
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On August 10 2009 16:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i didnt pm to BC at all this game. i talked to showtime about it cause he was trying to figure out the vets, and i showed him that neither of you guys were vets. he sent that to BC
I am sorry, I misread that.
showtime fails even harder.
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On August 10 2009 16:33 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
and nothing personal incognito <3 it kept you save and worked out for the best didn't it :D? Ya. It was a strange convoluted plan but I thought I'd try it out since it was a smurf game. bad idea ya?
It could of ended worse. So I am happy with how it went. lol I can't believe we lynched a vigilante on day one.
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Well even when the mafia knows we're not vets, it still limits the pool. Who'd want to kill us anyway? (Except I was a medic  )
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 10 2009 16:36 Incognito wrote:Well even when the mafia knows we're not vets, it still limits the pool. Who'd want to kill us anyway? (Except I was a medic )
I was going to push to hit you night 3. Don't know if it would've actually happened, based on what the other mafia members thought.
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On August 10 2009 16:32 Incognito wrote:
There is not really any harm in claiming vet. Since its a role town usually tends to ignore but mafia think about a lot. So even though the plan never went through nothing bad really happened.
There is plenty of harm if the vet claim is actually legit. It tells the mafia who NOT to hit. Additionally, it tells the mafia that the people they hit were medic protected, which means that the protected player cannot believe a roleclaim from the person who "protected" them since the mafia KNOW it was a medic
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On August 10 2009 16:38 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:36 Incognito wrote:Well even when the mafia knows we're not vets, it still limits the pool. Who'd want to kill us anyway? (Except I was a medic ) I was going to push to hit you night 3. Don't know if it would've actually happened, based on what the other mafia members thought.
rly? I wasn't doing anything productive this game...kinda slacked off after the plan failed and Showtime started attempting to take over.
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On August 10 2009 16:40 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:32 Incognito wrote:
There is not really any harm in claiming vet. Since its a role town usually tends to ignore but mafia think about a lot. So even though the plan never went through nothing bad really happened. There is plenty of harm if the vet claim is actually legit. It tells the mafia who NOT to hit. Additionally, it tells the mafia that the people they hit were medic protected, which means that the protected player cannot believe a roleclaim from the person who "protected" them since the mafia KNOW it was a medic
Well ya, I meant fake claim. Except I guess if you do it too often it encourages mafia to do it too? In which case you'd have to care and it would be harmful.
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Canada7170 Posts
On August 10 2009 16:41 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:40 Qatol wrote:On August 10 2009 16:32 Incognito wrote:
There is not really any harm in claiming vet. Since its a role town usually tends to ignore but mafia think about a lot. So even though the plan never went through nothing bad really happened. There is plenty of harm if the vet claim is actually legit. It tells the mafia who NOT to hit. Additionally, it tells the mafia that the people they hit were medic protected, which means that the protected player cannot believe a roleclaim from the person who "protected" them since the mafia KNOW it was a medic Well ya, I meant fake claim. Except I guess if you do it too often it encourages mafia to do it too? In which case you'd have to care and it would be harmful.
Well if there is a legitimate Vet that rc's as the third, all three rc's will be under harsh scrutiny.
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On August 10 2009 16:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 16:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i didnt pm to BC at all this game. i talked to showtime about it cause he was trying to figure out the vets, and i showed him that neither of you guys were vets. he sent that to BC I am sorry, I misread that. showtime fails even harder.
i figured i could trust him w/ the info and that it would help, seeing as how he had contact with other players and knew a bit more than i did.
i guess the problem was the whole linking akas ordeal.
if we had a bit more time/started earlier i think i could've got town to lynch smurfette/MM - some thread reading found me the post where he tried to but some more dirt on moceanu, which had me convinced along with the (technically incorrect) clue analysis.
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