Ok, listen up cunts.

Ver has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in terms of giving us new information. All of it is just information ALREADY STATED. No one gives a fuck who found Clazz or who found Kuja. Fuck, if Kuja weren't such a dumbfuck and turned out to be townie, you guys would start crying because half of you already role claimed to Ver based on UNVERIFIABLE INFORMATION.

Ver *still* hasn't posted these mafia names. And for what? "THEY'LL IMPLICATE OTHER PEOPLE!" Ok, gee. If it were *anybody* other than Ace, L, Ver, all you cunts would be saying "WE CAN'T TRUST HIM, RELEASE THESE NAMES." You guys are playing with Ver's balls so much. The only reason Ver can get away with this is because he's a big name. "Hey, let me write a long post and not explain anything new and rehash information while saying I also have new mafia names while not stating who these mafia are, even after they can't kill me or these people that would be compromised". Jesus fucking christ, how the fuck can you guys even role claim after nothing new was said.

Ver brought *nothing new* to the table at all. He's giving us a "Hey, trust me, I have mafia, not going to say who, but trust me, I'm a big name".

You guys are backwards like hell. Asking Ace to role claim based on his Clazziquai information, yet you guys blindly trust Ver based on his.....old information? At least Ace fucking did something to help the town so far.

"OH BUT THEY'RE GOING TO RAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY"

Jesus christ this is a fucking non-issue. It's 3 people max that can rally. Oh look at that, we have at least 2 vigs, and we have a lynch tomorrow. HOLY SHIT PROBLEM SOLVED. They can't get other people into their doomed 3 person circle as everybody else can be like "hey man, this is a long PM explaining why I'm mafia, trust me, everybody seems to do it"

"BUT MY ASSOCIATES AND FRIENDS ETC ARE GOING TO DIIIIIIIIIE BY THESE MAFIA IF NAMES ARE RELEASED"

So we trade 3 people for 3 mafia when they're already going to be down 4. So you think there's 20 mafia or something? They get no new information, no new rallying point. In comparison, we can get our own communication web set up based upon the veracity of your claims of these mafia which means coordination between remaining power roles unlike mafia, who are boned because of Kuja and going to be down 7 mafia by 4th night if you were to release these names.

"BUT HE'S VER, HE DOESN'T NEED TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF"

Right. Jesus christ, you guys are like fucking sheep every single goddamn game.

Why you guys don't have the word 'doubt' in your vocabulary is beyond me.

Moving on to a different subject:

Motbob's roleclaim.

This is so fucking far out there, I am seriously fucking doubting it.

On August 04 2009 15:21 motbob wrote:
The mafia thought he still had me convinced he was NKVD.

On August 04 2009 15:27 motbob wrote:

Well Ver has a good reason for keeping his mafias a secret, but I guess I don't. It's RebirthofLegend.

Ok. Anybody who got the PM, which is everybody in the WHOLE MAFIA FORUM it seems since even fucking CALLER GOT THE PM, knows that it didn't REMOTELY IMPLY NKVD AT FUCKING ALL.

yo mannn I just used my role check today to check you, and you came back as a Ukrainian too, I was trying to figure out how Caller wrote clues and I guess I got it (or got lucky rofl) just PM me back so we can get this Ukrainian death machine rolling, the sooner we organized the better. If you don't want to PM me back yet, I suggest using your power and checking me too.

I can surely see what is going on through medic motbob's mind:
"OH SHIT, THIS GUY IS CLAIMING TO BE UKRAINIAN AND IS CALLING ME UKRAINIAN. HE IS SURE DOING A GOOD JOB CONVINCING ME HE'S NKVD. LET ME ROLE CLAIM TO HIM."

Like come the fuck on. I'm going to restate it:

On August 04 2009 15:28 Elemenope wrote:
I'm going to have to call bullshit on this.

No one can possibly be so fucking moronic as to role claim to this guy.

YOU CAN'T EVEN USE THE EXCUSE OF NOT READING THE THREAD SINCE HE HAD NO MENTION OF NKVD OR IMPLICATION OF SUCH IN THAT FUCKING PM.

And somehow you protecting Ver makes Ver legit. Because mafia can't target other mafia. BECAUSE HE GOT SAVED TWICE! Because that second save is full of as much truth as that first save. OK BRB GOING TO ROLE CLAIM TO VER.

How the fuck you're even still alive after night 2 if you truly did R/C to someone is beyond me since RoL could've had someone else kill you. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THIS PERSON IS, JUST FUCKING QUIT THE GAME.

On August 04 2009 20:20 Shikyo wrote:
I don't get some things still. Elemenope, for example. Suggesting that everyone is scum? Could be a mafia ploy to cause confusion, or it could be a method to make people ignore you. But it could also just be for the sake of bragging that you were right in the case you were a townie.

Not anywhere close.

On August 04 2009 18:25 coltrane wrote:
We need info. Stop trolling the thread.

Funny, since the guy you guys seem to blindly trust is lacking in the whole giving the town information department.

There has been quite many lulz going on in these 3 days, but it's more becoming of a facepalm as I see people blindly trusting others based upon word simply because they want an easy way out of thinking.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DOUBT AND THINK, DON'T PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 15:35 GMT

#973

If I didn't make it clear by that post:

DON'T ROLECLAIM TO VER

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 15:50 GMT

#975

On August 05 2009 00:48 Scaramanga wrote:
Elemenope rofl at you, you are scum for sure

You sure refuted my points quite well.

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 16:55 GMT

#978

On August 05 2009 01:53 Scaramanga wrote:
OMFG I DIDNT POST IN ALL CAPS DOES THAT MEAN I CANT REFUTE YOUR POINTS WELL QUESTIONMARK!

On August 05 2009 00:50 Elemenope wrote:
You sure refuted my points quite well.

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 16:55 GMT

#979

On August 05 2009 01:54 coltrane wrote:
Elemenope you said nothing new. Scaramanga is the only one who blind trust Ver, I dont want to lynch him now because we gain nothing. Or he is green/red or no one with a role trust him, so your rage is just a waste.

A lot of people blindly trust Ver.

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 16:59 GMT

#981

You can ask Ver himself, but I doubt he'll give any information as per usual.

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 17:08 GMT

#983

On August 05 2009 02:07 coltrane wrote:
So you are telling us nothing new...

Just like you...

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 17:13 GMT

#985

It's not division if people don't agree with it.

Which is better:

Being sheep and R/Cing to Ver blindly who is not confirmed and who seems sketchy at this moment?

Or not R/Cing to anybody at all until someone is a confirmed townie?

I'm not trying to make a division.

I'm trying to make people stop and think about their actions before they r/c to someone. Saying that I'm dividing the town is implying that Ver is townie, so I'm sure you r/ced to him too.

Elemenope

Burkina Faso1704 Posts

August 04 2009 17:26 GMT

#987

On August 05 2009 02:24 coltrane wrote:
Is good to read something else than "*** is scum, for sure" from you, but relax, if Ver is mafia he is at least incompetent.

Except half the town is also incompetent and I'm sure just as many r/ced to him because
a) He's Ver
b) He made a long post
c) He's getting backup from Scara and motbob
d) nobody else other than myself and Ace are actually voicing opposition in this

So basically if he's mafia, we're boned because people are fucking retarded just as usual.