EPTOn July 31 2009 05:49 L wrote:
You wanted to vote for that scrub :3.
You wanted to vote for that scrub :3.
well you didn't make a platform yet, and it was between him and Lucaswoj. And well Lucas will never ever get a vote from me so yea.
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well you didn't make a platform yet, and it was between him and Lucaswoj. And well Lucas will never ever get a vote from me so yea. | ||
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On July 31 2009 06:26 coltrane wrote: Ok, look... my maths arent wrong. by now i have tryed thousands of simulations (its really easy, i have alredy wrote a town generator in c++) and with this rules killing random, lynching random the right balance is something like 10 mafia, 4 vets, 4 medics, 5 NKVD. Anything different will make some kind of imba game, of course could be on more on one role or in other, but if there are more than 12 mafia we are screwed, if they are less than 7 they are, and so on with any of those numbers. When i changed the rc on NKVD to vets town wins 53% or so... while putting them on ukranian town wins 59% Now i am at work, i dont have my code here, but at night i can post numbers or the complete c++ code if any wants to check it. I changed my vote to L, since i dont want Ace to be elected and i think most of you just follow the shiny glow of those who selfclaim them as vets. the game isn't so simple. The reason most of us who know better don't give a shit about your math is because not only does it depend on who has what role, who is mafia/town, and how lucky some people get - it just makes no sense. Nothing in this game is truly random. Rolechecks aren't just "hmmm ok I'll just pick this guy for no reason" - no. Then you say something that makes no sense such as town winning 53% of the time if NKVD vet claim...really? How so? You think every single Rebel is going to say shit, it's a vet..let me not hit him? How do you account for the fact every mafia member may individually agree to just go ape shit and kill any vet they run into? This is why you're useless. Screw your C++ program too. You are like araav in Mafia 2. | ||
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On July 31 2009 06:57 Vivi57 wrote: lol if you kill me. defending myself from ace isn't worth my time hope the town gets a good lol when I die don't worry, by now you should know I care more about who's on what side than what role people have. Being that no matter what role you get you are useless I'm going to instant lynch you if I get Field Marshall. lulz will be had for sure. | ||
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*drinks moar Vodka in General Caller's honor* | ||
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you guys can't be this gullible v_v So RebirthofLegend sent a message claiming you're a rebel, when you claim to be a conscipt (so he obviously couldn't have checked you) and now you claim it's a trap? lol V_V | ||
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Comrades, I was strolling through the graveyard when a little birdie appeared to me. Amazingly this bird could speak Russian and he told me a little secret. Clazziquai is a scummy Rebel! o dear, o my. What do we have here Clazz? Looks like we've got our first lynch coming up. | ||
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On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote: Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...? because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh. | ||
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On August 01 2009 09:02 clazziquai wrote: you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow.... because I'm far smarter than most people. Besides, whoever said I trust the informant? This is just as much a test for him as it is for you. P.S. - You really are a rebel because your defense is shit. GG. | ||
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On August 01 2009 10:44 Sinensis wrote: Clazz, let me explain this to you. If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING. If we lynch no one, we make no progress. If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust. Lynching you is the most logical course of action. actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different: 1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels. 2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this: L 8 ~OpZ~ Storrzerg Ver Kuja900 Motbob L Clazziquai motbob This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit. Clazz has 3 strikes against him. It's over. | ||
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On August 01 2009 13:09 LucasWoJ wrote: Ace, you're retarded. dont worry your death is coming soon too hoe | ||
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On August 01 2009 15:38 ~OpZ~ wrote: Wow fuck off Ace...I actually like L because...he isn't a dick like you. Think I've said that before actually...And I've seen him with nice clue analysis, so him living longer is more of a plus to me. Is that a point you'd like to argue too? And Ace's belief that NKVD's shouldn't disguise as rebels is still something I don't agree on. So we haven't beaten that horse dead yet Ace. Disorganization amongst the mafia = plus. The rebel's can't risk messaging that way because the agent can tell the public. But you're too stupid to realize that? you're bad at this game. Just shut the fuck up and be quiet. Let the good players do their work. | ||
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On August 01 2009 17:49 Scaramanga wrote: I just caught 2 rebels i mass sent pm to ten people and i caught out kuja, this is our pm convo + Show Spoiler + Im not confirming or denying but lets talk on irc, are u willing to do that account exchange thing again to confirm? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hey man i just role checked you and its good to know that were both rebels, we need to get this rebel web setup, if you want you can rc me but thats just a waste of time lets get an irc setup or something Then this is our irc convo + Show Spoiler + <Lee-Scara-Jay> whats up man <Kuja900> yo <Kuja900> how does kuja know ur not pulling a rebirth of legend? <Lee-Scara-Jay> idk how to prove that <Lee-Scara-Jay> the best way is to rc me but we dont have time <Kuja900> are u willing to do that account exchange thing we did a few games ago? <Lee-Scara-Jay> nah i was told byplexa <Lee-Scara-Jay> that i'd be modbanned from any other game <Lee-Scara-Jay> if i did that again <Lee-Scara-Jay> and he checks every game now <Kuja900> hrmm that truely makes it hard to believe then <Kuja900> scara u swear ud never screw over a faggy little comerade? <Lee-Scara-Jay> never <Lee-Scara-Jay> i would never ever <Lee-Scara-Jay> screw over a fellow rebel <Kuja900> and if u do you invite all hells furies upon you including the fury of ten thousand suns? <Lee-Scara-Jay> lol ohk <Lee-Scara-Jay> so who did you rc last night <Kuja900> rebirthoflegend i had a hunch <Lee-Scara-Jay> so hes townie <Kuja900> nope hes a rebel <Kuja900> ogod watch there be only 2 rebels i didnt read and ur mafia <Kuja900> and im fucked lol <Lee-Scara-Jay> wait so he mass pmed people <Lee-Scara-Jay> to make him look innocent <Lee-Scara-Jay> but hes a rebel aswell <Kuja900> yep i had a massive hunch he was finding other rebel <Kuja900> and that he counting on other rebel checking him <Kuja900> im worried mafia will have same hunch <Lee-Scara-Jay> so have you talked to rebirth? <Kuja900> i sent him pm no reply <Lee-Scara-Jay> <Lee-Scara-Jay> let me know what he says <Kuja900> well i know hes rebel so dont matter im sure hes in <Kuja900> but that was a balsy move <Lee-Scara-Jay> by him? <Kuja900> yes <Lee-Scara-Jay> if you think about it <Lee-Scara-Jay> it makes him look innocent <Lee-Scara-Jay> and can connect us up really fast <Kuja900> not to me i figured it out it was obvious he wasnt a mere towny <Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah <Kuja900> well i suppose we can coordinate now <Lee-Scara-Jay> brb 2 secs <Kuja900> " <Kuja900> Your homework: Write a PM you would send, as a rebel, to someone you just RC'ed as a rebel. Send a copy of that PM to 10 players at random, addressing them with their name." <Kuja900> if your doing this i will find u in australia and rip your balls off by the hilt <Lee-Scara-Jay> thats what im afraid of <Lee-Scara-Jay> this can fuck up our cordination <Lee-Scara-Jay> so much <Lee-Scara-Jay> back btw <Kuja900> grr i not gna rc u cause i need my powa but goddamn im iffy about u! <Lee-Scara-Jay> ah man i know how you feel <Kuja900> can u pm me your roll sent to u by caller? <Lee-Scara-Jay> specially with that mass pm going on <Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah 2 secs <Kuja900> id normally never trust anyone but ur scara and id like to think we got a remote bond lol <Lee-Scara-Jay> i just gotta go to the toliet <Kuja900> lol charming  <Lee-Scara-Jay> Ukrainian Rebel: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our country! After Ukrainian Resistance Leader was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Ukrainians, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own treacherous scum if you are not careful, da! <Lee-Scara-Jay> If you have any questions, please PM me <Lee-Scara-Jay> back <Lee-Scara-Jay>  <Kuja900> Ukrainian Rebel: You are defender of Ukrainian Republic from all those that seek your destruction! You have two abilities, one usable per night: you may kill a person or you may role check them. Be warned, you do not know who the other Ukrainians are! Your job is to reduce the Red Army down to a force that can be dealt with. Find your fellow Ukrainians and coordinate your attacks! Be weary of infiltrators, however! <Lee-Scara-Jay> well damm <Lee-Scara-Jay> at least i got 2 rebels <Kuja900> why are they differnt? <Lee-Scara-Jay> beacuse im not a rebel <Lee-Scara-Jay> you are <Kuja900> lol <Kuja900> perfect <Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man <Kuja900> meh i kinda knew it <Kuja900> your going to kill me arent u ;( <Lee-Scara-Jay> im gonna post this in the thread yes <Kuja900> lol not in the thread let me preserve my dignity <Kuja900> cause im a mafia newb ;( <Lee-Scara-Jay> nah man i caught 2 this is so awsome <Kuja900> lol <Kuja900> have mercy ; ; <Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man T_T LYNCH KUJA AND REBIRTH TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER CLAZZ LOL RAPE | ||
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