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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 01 2009 22:17 GMT
#645
I see a couple ways this whole situation could blow up spectacularly. This is fun ^^
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 01 2009 22:25 GMT
#647
On the plus side, we now know the rebels are getting desperate with their attempts to organize themselves.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 01 2009 22:34 GMT
#649
On August 02 2009 07:28 L wrote:
No, we know that Clazz is desperate because he's going to die tonight.

Assuming he's a rebel.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 01:59 GMT
#673
On August 02 2009 10:46 Siefu wrote:
Shouldn't we be thinking about the special condition for Night 2?

What is there to think about? I doubt this condition will change anyone's choice of action for night 2. There will no doubt be some analysis to do after we know how many players acted on night 2.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 02:29 GMT
#678
On August 02 2009 11:06 clazziquai wrote:
I don't get it. Three birds with one stone?? I want to know why lynching me does this. Seriously I am so confused =/ Can anyone who knows explain this to me when I'm dead or when the game is over?

Hard to tell what he's referring to, specifically. Killing a rebel is clearly one of the 'birds'. The other two are either other rebels he's somehow discovered, or maybe he's talking about all the voting support he got and how he's diminishing his detractors. Or maybe he's bluffing and throwing red herrings around. I wouldn't give this too much thought if I were you.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 15:10 GMT
#708
On August 02 2009 23:19 Scaramanga wrote:
make day/night 36 hours, 48 is just too long and thread goes inactive

Agreed.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 20:44 GMT
#738
Two quick quotes:
On August 03 2009 03:20 Sinensis wrote:
Anyway, I would like to request Ace to compile a list of people he believes would be optimal focuses for rolechecks.
This is a good idea.

On August 03 2009 02:23 L wrote:
People who regularly post blocks of text that don't actually say anything or provide real content are generally trying to fake activity for various reasons.
This is a good observation.

Aside from those two phrases, Sinensis and L's only recent contributions are helping to make this thread a more unreadable. While we do have the Gazetta to provide summaries, I don't feel we should rely on it entirely, which many of us will have to start doing if the (useful posts / total posts) ratio keeps dropping.

My suggested NKVD role check list:
Sinensis
L
RebirthOfLeGenD
Kuja900
Scamp

Last 3 are based on posts from this thread and voting history.

I was a bit torn on Elemenope, since he has very few posts with any substance to them. At least they don't pretend to have any substance and they're short and easy to read, so he gets off the hook for now. Scaramanga is an obvious suspect if Kuja and Rebirth turn out to be townies. L is also on my medic cover list so he should be a priority, don't want to waste medic actions on someone who turns out to be a rebel.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 20:57:43
August 02 2009 20:56 GMT
#741
Oh, one other thing. Remember we're one NKVD down, so that's 3 less total role checks. Our remaining NKVDs have to be smart about using their RCs.

Saving them all for later would be a waste, and since they can't follow clues yet they should use a RC for this night. Just be smart about it!
On August 03 2009 05:54 Elemenope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 05:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Kuja900

Not worth it.

Hm. Kuja might be a sure enough candidate to lynch without a RC.

edited for clarity
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 21:06 GMT
#744
On August 03 2009 06:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well...Lets see one problem with Zato's post...Voting History? Are you serious? We are going with voting history right now...?

Can we even use voting history this game?

Mafia don't know who each other are....so what good is voting history? Sorry...That's just mildly or extremely retarded right now to even claim that that can be a factor...

Maybe you can use the thread, but vote count is kind of out of the question.

Really now? Let's review a list of people who we strongly suspect are rebels at this point:

clazziquai
Kuja900
RebirthOfLeGenD

Two of those voted for L, and one of them for LucasWoJ. L promised to say "Wow I'm good at mafia, pick me!", but he didn't even do that iirc. And this is Lucas' campaign speech: "I'll run for Field Marshall."

I'd say that warrants looking at the voting history.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 21:25 GMT
#750
OpZ: Why do you think the mafia bandwagons in the first place? I can think of two reasons:

1. To elect one of their own.
2. To elect someone who wouldn't make for a good Field Marshal.

In this game, reason 1 is out of the question as you pointed out, so it would have to be reason 2. The mafia would choose someone they think would make for a lousy Field Marshal and vote for him.

"But the mafia can't bandwagon!" you say.

If the mafia members can individually come to the same conclusion of who would make for a bad Field Marshal, then you can get something pretty similar to a bandwagon. At the time the campaigning was going on, L was barely active iirc- he only started to post a lot later on. clazziquai, Kuja and Rebirth seemed to think L and Lucas would make for a worse Field Marshal than Ace. Why wouldn't other rebels arrive at the same conclusion?
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 22:02 GMT
#755
There are a bunch of veterans playing this game. Many of them aren't being terribly active. I daresay an active veteran is more of a threat to the mafia than an inactive veteran. L looked like he was the inactive kind as the campaigns were going on.

Voting lists are hardly good evidence. Very little is, at this point in the game. They're just something to be kept in mind. And if you're wondering, voting lists were a comparatively minor influence on my list- the goings on of this thread had much more weight.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 02 2009 23:11 GMT
#774
OpZ and Elemenope: We discussed this in detail for many, many pages already. More importantly, any further discussion on the topic of what NKVD should pose as will probably have no impact on the game other than cluttering up this thread. In the interest of keeping this thread as lean and meaningful as possible, I ask that we drop further discussion on this topic, or take it to PMs / IRC
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 23:27:34
August 02 2009 23:26 GMT
#778
On August 03 2009 08:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 08:11 Zato-1 wrote:
OpZ and Elemenope: We discussed this in detail for many, many pages already. More importantly, any further discussion on the topic of what NKVD should pose as will probably have no impact on the game other than cluttering up this thread. In the interest of keeping this thread as lean and meaningful as possible, I ask that we drop further discussion on this topic, or take it to PMs / IRC

And don't use indefinite's such as "probably." They really ruin the message you were trying to convey.

I normally avoid using them, but in the unlikely scenario that we all magically agree on what NKVD should be posing as, I believe they can still PM Caller and ask to change their disguise. As such, it is not a certainty that further discussion will be fruitless- it is only very probable.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 03 2009 00:46 GMT
#791
On August 03 2009 09:34 Caller wrote:
Kuja900

Are on the execution watchlist.

Guess we don't even have to worry about lynching him now.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 03 2009 01:36 GMT
#812
Ugh. 4 more townies down to inactivity ><
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 03 2009 02:11 GMT
#819
So... when is the next day coming? ¬¬

18 hours? :D
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 03 2009 14:51 GMT
#836
Not sure if I like this power play. You're basically doing the same thing Clazz did, only for the town.

If you're a townie, you can get names of red townies and coordinate us. That's good.

If you're a rebel, you get names of red townies and post them publicly for all the other rebels to read freely before we lynch you. That would be disastrous.

Your story is nice, but words are wind. Claiming credit for figuring out Clazz and Kuja is just that, claiming credit.

It's an interesting plan, but if we go through with it and you turn out to be mafia, we're giving the blues exactly what they need to win. For now, I would suggest townies to keep their roles to themselves.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 03 2009 19:23 GMT
#843
On August 04 2009 00:32 Malongo wrote:
I claim publicly that im townie. And I didnt get the pm from Ver. i guess im not "that" good.

Neither did I. I wonder if he's trolling us with his claim that he PM'ed 40-45 people.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 03 2009 19:48 GMT
#845
On August 04 2009 04:32 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 04:23 Zato-1 wrote:
On August 04 2009 00:32 Malongo wrote:
I claim publicly that im townie. And I didnt get the pm from Ver. i guess im not "that" good.

Neither did I. I wonder if he's trolling us with his claim that he PM'ed 40-45 people.

Nah. Ver probably pmd those of who hes sure about his behavior. Makes sense since he doesnt know you and knows im always doing weird crazy stuff.

I'm still interested in other people saying whether they got his PM or not. Additional info is helpful when you're trying to make an informed decision.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 04 2009 03:15 GMT
#873
Well, damn. My filthy capitalist cover was blown
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