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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-18 06:34:53
May 18 2009 06:34 GMT
#11
Who is this comic book character? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bwdero

EDIT: This is the last time I'll edit one of my posts. Spelled a word wrong.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-18 20:53:59
May 18 2009 20:49 GMT
#89
[image loading]

If I am mafia, I pledge to give myself away immediately due to stupidity.
If I am not, I pledge to lead the town to victory through my sheer brilliance.
In all seriousness, I have a simple message to give: if I'm elected, I'll formulate a plan, follow it, and be extremely active in the thread. I'll coordinate the town in the style of semioldguy in Mafia 5 (a game which Town won handily.)

If you elect me sheriff, we'll win. I guarantee it on penalty of two-day temp ban.

EDIT: FUCK I SPELLED "SHERIFF" WRONG. Sorry.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 25 2009 11:45 GMT
#699
"acting quite strangely?" this statement alone makes me think you're mafia tbh
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 25 2009 11:47 GMT
#701
Sorry for double post but I can't edit
What I mean is, how can I be acting strangely if I haven't posted anything?
Also, if Shikyo flips red, we need to take this comment
Something important:

DO NOT scatter your votes among multiple targets!!! This is ESSENTIAL! If all of you just vote for 2 suspects out of like 7, the 7 existing mafia WILL be able to decide the voting!!! Decide on who to vote anonymously before voting like a scattered mess! If you don't do this, we WILL end up lynching 2 innocents!

Suspect me or not, this makes sense if you're a townie.

as evidence that the first people to vote today are Mafia.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 25 2009 11:58 GMT
#706
On May 25 2009 20:50 Shikyo wrote:
Why would I ever suggest something like that?

I made it very clear why you would say something like that. You are basically encouraging bandwagoning, and bandwagoning is beneficial to mafia if the first votes are mafia votes.

So if you are mafia, the first votes cast are suspect.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 02:19 GMT
#822
Having a mayor who is mafia is so much worse than lynching a mayor who isn't mafia.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 02:33 GMT
#829
On May 26 2009 11:28 teks wrote:
Wow, this is such a mess. Am I too late?

Foolishness, if you want to go pick suspects off my list, start with the missing ones.

iLoveKTF (away)
omG.[RaYnE]
clazziquai
ydg
BWdero
epicdoom

Both rayne and BWdero are on it, so that would be a decent lynch imo. Yes, Rayne seems to easy, but no, the Rayne -> BloodRayne isn't too farfetched. The character in BloodRayne is called Rayne. And I can't find anyone else meaningful named Rayne.

clazziquai and epicdoom have had clues or weird behavior pointing to them, so that would also be a decent suggestion.

I'm sorry I haven't been on in the last hours to sort this out. It's nighttime here and I have an exam tomorrow. I can't really sort this out, and I don't think my list would contribute all that much because I have a shitload of townie claims and still a big missing list. Basically every suspect we discuss are on one of those lists.

With the two last vote shifts it seems JeeJee will have his wish. If Shikyo turns green, Ra.Xor.2 and motbob doesn't come out very well.

TBH I want Shikyo lynched, no matter what the cost. If it means me being put on the chopping block, so be it. A mafia mayor will give the town no chance to win. We already saw that with Qatol.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 02:39 GMT
#831
On May 26 2009 11:37 teks wrote:
I would want to lynch a mafia mayor too. But there is still no changing the fact that Shikyo had a good list of blues on day two which he didn't do anything with (including me as a confirmed townie and a DT), and even pointed me to these blues when I wanted to tell someone of my vigi hit. Why would any mafia willingly help me set up this list?

I can't change what you guys believe, but I can't support this either. I think it's a mistake to lynch Shikyo.

I can see mafia doing anything to protect the 3x vote power. It's just so powerful.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 03:10 GMT
#837
I find it a weird coincidence that iloveKTF voted RIGHT after the deadline.
But I changed my vote right after the deadline too arrrrrgh.
Honestly, I could not look more like mafia at this point.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 12:22 GMT
#869
ILoveKTF, Shikyo, and Ra.Xor.2 are pretty clearly mafia. I say this becasue of the stunt ILoveKTF tried to pull where he voted just a liiiiitle too late for it to count with votes that would have tilted things in our favor (aka lynching either Shikyo or Ra.Xor). I call on everyone to lynch Shikyo and ILoveKTF tonight. If we don't all work together on this, we will lose. period. Vote to lynch Shikyo and ILoveKTF.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 13:21 GMT
#872
On May 26 2009 22:16 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2009 19:32 BWdero wrote:edit: i suggest town surrenders, you obviously suck balls.

This, btw

Like Qatol, you're not even hiding it anymore.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 15:46 GMT
#876
I'll try to be helpful here, since I finally have some free time at work. Let's look at voting patterns.

+ Show Spoiler [Mayor voting] +
Shikyo - 10
-----
teks
softer
Knutti
EsbenPM
l10f
Pawsom
omG.[RaYnE]
clazziquai
Therapy
Jimtudor

JeeJee - 10
-----
BWdero
ydg
iLoveKTF
Jayme
Ra.Xor.2
crate
zeks
The_Master
Koopie
so no fek

Jimtudor - 4
-----
chaoser
Phelix
wurm
Foolishness

zeks - 1
-----
vx70GTOJudgexv

Abstain - 4
-----
Shikyo
JeeJee
epicdoom
motbob

+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 lynch] +
Jayme - 15
-----
So no fek
vx70GTOJudgexv
teks
motbob
Phelix
EsbenPM
chaoser
ydg
Koopie
Ra.Xor.2
zeks
wurm
l10f
SugiuraMidori
Pawsom

Abstain - 8
-----
BWDero
Crate
iLoveKTF
Foolishness
The_Master
Knutti
JeeJee
Shikyo

teks - 1
-----
epicdoom

+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 lynch] +
iLoveKTF - 2
-----
omG.[RaYnE]
clazziquai

Ra.Xor.2 - 6
-----
SugiuraMidori
Shikyo*3
Foolishness
crate

omG.[RaYnE] - 7
-----
teks
vx70GTOJudgexv
wurm
chaoser
clazziquai
Knutti
The_Master

Shikyo - 6
-----
wurm
JeeJee
Pawsom
Ra.Xor.2
motbob
crate

clazziquai - 1
-----
vx70GTOJudgexv

epicdoom - 2
-----
l10f
Foolishness

chaoser - 1
-----
l10f

BWDero - 8
-----
Shikyo*3
SugiuraMidori
chaoser
Ra.Xor.2
teks
The_Master

Abstain - 1
-----
Phelix
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 26 2009 18:50 GMT
#879
Wow, I'm really late on this, but I'm going to try to help town as much as I can before I get lynched in order to maybe make up for my days of inactivity.

When I said that Shikyo and iloveKTF were mafia, I was basically going on gut. Gut served me well last game, when I was pretty sure Qatol was mafia before most others figured it out. But that was probably a matter of luck. I still think what iloveKTF did was extremely suspicious and probably a sign of being mafia. But, I don't have anything else to back that up.

However, I think chaoser is mafia. And I think I have a strong case.

First: clue analysis.
Walking through the park in the darkness, Softer began to think he was being stalked, so he hid in the bushes. The figure that had been following him began to search the thicket, and Softer panicked and tried to bolt towards the park's exit. However, before Softer could get away, his stalker whipped him forcefully in the back. Softer flew to the ground, where vicious stomps to the back of the neck took his life.

I believe this clue points to chaoser, if only because of the act of whipping. The use of the word whipping could be a reference to a sharp blow to the back, but in this case I believe that it points to something specific; it is a clue. Chaoser's public profile reads thusly:
(12:22:39 AM) krimson: SON
(12:22:44 AM) krimson: IM the ninja trainer
(12:22:46 AM) krimson: i train ninjas
(12:22:47 AM) ostrich: wtf
(12:22:52 AM) ostrich: you're a pokemon trainer
(12:22:57 AM) krimson: POKEMON ARE NINJAS

You can clearly see where whipping fits in there. Trainers <> whips.
I've looked at everyone else's profile. No one has anything that ties in nearly as neatly with "whipping."

Second: vote analysis. chaoser has a 100% bad voting record, except for the sheriff election, where he voted for a now-dead blue. However, this vote was cast AFTER Shikyo had received a convincing majority. At that point, the race was between JeeJee and JimTudor for second place (or so it seemed at the time.) Others had described JeeJee as a "veteran player." (I don't know if this is true or not) and it seems conceivable to me that Mafia would see JeeJee as a worse alternative to JimTudor as mayor.

Third: post analysis.

chaoser did extremely superficial clue analysis. He merely bolded passages that were "interesting" to him, without actually connecting the passages to anyone. There is one exception: he threw a great deal of suspicion onto Jayme, in multiple posts.

chaoser is mafia. It is clear as day.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 00:35 GMT
#890
On May 27 2009 09:04 iLoveKTF wrote:
lol motbob clearly youve been inactive. If you've read everything you would know that shikyo and I cant be both mafia (If there is mafia among us). You would also know that I was away and just got back that time when voting almost ended. tried to get my vote in but failed. Also, accusing me of being mafia for voting after the deadline is announced is like accusing yourself.

Yep! I know. I was looking at voting patterns and for you and Shikyo to both be mafia would be pretty nuts. That's why I wrote the whole spiel about Chaoser and said that my feelings on you two were based on gut. However, inactive or not, posting votes that might have saved town two minutes after the deadline is really suspicious! I know I did it too, which leads to my second point...

I know I look more suspicious than anyone else right now, which is why I've been using language like "after I get lynched" etc.

I think my accusation of Shikyo was based on an emotional response to him accusing me of being Mafia. I apologize... let's put this behind us and win it for town.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-27 04:20:55
May 27 2009 04:20 GMT
#909
On May 27 2009 13:09 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
ok working on day post now

Man if you hadn't said this I would have stayed up, now I have to go to sleep.

EDIT (even though we're not supposed to): scratch that, reverse it.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 04:57 GMT
#914
LET'S FUCKING DO THIS BOYS. town has a chance. Let's lynch chaoser and... someone else.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 05:01 GMT
#917
Updated voting patterns:

+ Show Spoiler [Mayor voting] +
Shikyo - 10
-----
teks
softer
Knutti
EsbenPM
l10f
Pawsom
omG.[RaYnE]
clazziquai
Therapy
Jimtudor

JeeJee - 10
-----
BWdero
ydg
iLoveKTF
Jayme
Ra.Xor.2
crate
zeks
The_Master
Koopie
so no fek

Jimtudor - 4
-----
chaoser
Phelix
wurm
Foolishness

zeks - 1
-----
vx70GTOJudgexv

Abstain - 4
-----
Shikyo
JeeJee
epicdoom
motbob

+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 lynch] +
Jayme - 15
-----
So no fek
vx70GTOJudgexv
teks
motbob
Phelix
EsbenPM
chaoser
ydg
Koopie
Ra.Xor.2
zeks
wurm
l10f
SugiuraMidori
Pawsom

Abstain - 8
-----
BWDero
Crate
iLoveKTF
Foolishness
The_Master
Knutti
JeeJee
Shikyo

teks - 1
-----
epicdoom

+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 lynch] +
iLoveKTF - 2
-----
omG.[RaYnE]
clazziquai

Ra.Xor.2 - 6
-----
SugiuraMidori
Shikyo*3
Foolishness
crate

omG.[RaYnE] - 7
-----
teks
vx70GTOJudgexv
wurm
chaoser
clazziquai
Knutti
The_Master

Shikyo - 6
-----
wurm
JeeJee
Pawsom
Ra.Xor.2
motbob
crate

clazziquai - 1
-----
vx70GTOJudgexv

epicdoom - 2
-----
l10f
Foolishness

chaoser - 1
-----
l10f

BWDero - 8
-----
Shikyo*3
SugiuraMidori
chaoser
Ra.Xor.2
teks
The_Master

Abstain - 1
-----
Phelix
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 05:29 GMT
#921
On May 27 2009 14:23 teks wrote:
The clues are great, think we have alot to go on there. Crucifix-things are also blatantly obvious in pointing to Ra.Xor.2, who even thought I was mafia (what the hell?). clear lynch.

Btw, the DT's want me to order a hit on I10f, but I have my doubts tbh. Could be miller and I haven't seen any clues pointing to him. what do you guys think?

Are there any other suspects we should rather hit than I10f?

CHAOSER

look at his vote history
look at the clue history
look at his post history

Unless you have a good reason not to, order the hit. If he already flipped green, he's the godfather. As the man from Men's Warehouse said,

+ Show Spoiler +
I guarantee it
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:01 GMT
#938
On May 27 2009 16:45 teks wrote:
When has pokemon trainers ever been associated with whips? Even though you couldn't find any other matches doesn't mean that this has to be one. It could be a red herring, or simply a connection that Pyrr found and you didn't.

not pokemon trainers per se, but trainers in general.

About his posts, I have to say that if I were mafia, I'd do exactly what he did with clue analysis... I'd pretend to be helpful without actually being helpful. Bolding parts of the clues that "seem interesting" is a good way to do that, I think.

Also, I'm just going to repeat that the only person he ever cast suspicion on was Jayme.

However, I do agree that Pawsom is a slam-dunk candidate. Good job to JeeJee for picking up the "possum" reference!

Vote to lynch Pawsom and Ra.Xor.2.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:02 GMT
#939
Oh wait, that was teks, not JeeJee.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:11 GMT
#940
Oh and wtf, I just noticed this

Having finally caught Mew, the final prize in his collection, The_Master turned off his Game Boy and put it on the shelf.


Could it be any more obvious lololol
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:13 GMT
#941
God, I wish we could edit posts.

Disregard that last post, I was being retarded, it obviously doesn't point to chaoser.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:19 GMT
#944
On May 27 2009 22:15 teks wrote:
Actually I find Mew -> chaoser more likely than whip -> chaoser ^^

There are clues for chaoser all over the fucking place.
Disregard that disregard. Look here:
An intense, scarlet embarrassment had taken hold of his psyche and only death would release it.

That's from the clue that perhaps points to Pawsom. and here's a quote from Chaoser's profile:
(12:22:39 AM) krimson: SON
(12:22:44 AM) krimson: IM the ninja trainer
(12:22:46 AM) krimson: i train ninjas
(12:22:47 AM) ostrich: wtf
(12:22:52 AM) ostrich: you're a pokemon trainer
(12:22:57 AM) krimson: POKEMON ARE NINJAS

Also, pokemon trainers have pouches... it's where they keep their pokeballs.

But the "odious stench of death" doesn't work with chaoser... so I htink it's just a red herring... literally
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:31 GMT
#946
On May 27 2009 22:27 teks wrote:
I think you're so obsessed in finding clues that point to chaoser that you're missing the entire point.

no... I realize that he can't be any of yesterday's killers.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:45 GMT
#950
Also, the clue with the crucifix points squarely to Ra.Xor.2. But where does the "long blond hair" mentioned in the clue fit in? There are enough other parts of the clue to point to him that it doesn't matter (religious references -> "child of god", references to darkness, etc.)
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 13:48 GMT
#951
Also, this has got to be the most pliable clue in the deck right now:
Deep underneath Fluidville, So no fek was searching the depths of the town's sewer system for traces of mafia activity. Holding a blazing torch aloft to find his way forward, he slowed as he heard a sound like the shuffling of pages. He peered around the corner and saw an empty desk, then looked down to see the blade that had pierced his rib cage from behind. So no fek tried to turn to at least get a glimpse of his killer, but he couldn't muster the energy as the blade slipped back out of his chest.
I was sure it was Judge, but obviously not. Any ideas?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 17:08 GMT
#957
If we only kill 1 mafia tonight, it's GG.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 19:56 GMT
#964
YOU voted for Ra.Xor.2 yesterday.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 20:20 GMT
#969
Yeah well why don't you make a useful post for once instead of just going on and on about how town is screwed, etc.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 20:20 GMT
#970
Foolishness, that is.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 22:55 GMT
#979
On May 28 2009 07:13 Foolishness wrote:
Okay at this point I would like to suggest we formally kill motbob instead of Ra.Xor.2.

Let me outline 3 major points why motbob is mafia and should be killed over Ra.Xor.2

1) inactivity For the first few days motbob was incredibly inactive, only posting a few times. Chances are he is mafia, afraid to come out and speak much cause that would make him suspicious. As far as we know, he is inexperienced and never played mafia before, so this seems like a reasonable strategy. Now that the mafia are in such a commanding lead, he can afford to come out, speak his mind, and possibly sway the votes (more on that later).

In response to the post I know I'm going to get, yes, Ra.Xor.2 has been just as inactive throughout the game. Although consider what happened to Jayme. Jayme was under heavy suspicion the first night (there's even a string of posts where people seriously wanted to Jayme). After that Jayme fell quiet, didn't say much of anything. We know Jayme dodged the first night lynch, but second day comes around and he's immediately got a huge number of votes. In a very desperate situation he gives up and decides not to post anything. This very same thing can be happening with Ra.Xor.2. He was close to being lynched yesterday, and is now top candidate. He has yet to post because he has probably given up.

2) Fight with Shikyo motbob unleashed a huge accusation against Shikyo. This was seemingly out of the blue since he spent the first part of the game inactive. This was further coupled when crate and JeeJee came out with the arguments. It is plainly obvious that Shikyo is not mafia based on his posting. Furthermore, JeeJee has seem to given up hope (what a great player he is). motbob's random accusations is rather suspicious

3) Failure to vote on time. His failure to vote for Ra.Xor.2 could have changed the outcome of the votes, but he waited until it was too late. As said before, mafia want to wait until last minute to vote in order to sway the count. Mafia cannot do that right now since it would be incredibly obvious with the few remaining people left.

In conclusion, motbob is the one we need to lynch, I suggest anybody support me if they can. Ra.Xor.2 should not be lynched over motbob.

oh you've got to be kidding me
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 27 2009 22:57 GMT
#981
Well, put in your second vote. I hope it's for Pawsom, so you won't completely have egg on your face after tomorrow.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 28 2009 12:30 GMT
#1007
On May 28 2009 19:55 Shikyo wrote:
Everyone, change your vote from Ra.Xor.2. to l10f. I think that the chance of him being a miller is extremely low. Next people to lynch for sure: wurm, Pawsom. And I hope that motbob gets R/C'd, as well as one of the mafia suspects that we didn't lynch today.

Sorry for being gone, I have been following the thread. :/ I decided to try the spam-useless-things approach. But I'm fairly convinced about at least these few people being mafia. Now, if the mafia would just kill off more greens, we'd essentially have every mafia confirmed. That's why I want EVERY medic to protect blues tonight.

We've already been over this. Don't change your vote to l10f.

-If l10f is mafia, he played his role perfectly. He looks like 100% townie to me from post/vote analysis.

-There are so many clues pointing to Ra.Xor.2 in the last Day post that if he's not mafia we can basically blame the town loss on Pyrr

BTW you didn't say WHY you think the chance of him being miller is very low.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 28 2009 15:56 GMT
#1013
On May 29 2009 00:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 23:01 teks wrote:
I'm not switching to I10f. If that is what the majority of the town wants though, go ahead and do that. I personally believe that our top 3 suspects atm are Pawsom, wurm and Ra.Xor.2. If I had to vote for someone else I'd rather vote for wurm.

But the thing is, at this point we benefit from voting for different suspects. Bandwagoning 2 people would give us NO vote results to read and analyze.

Here's a tip for the town: read the accusation posts and clues. Then vote for the one you think is most likely to be mafia based on that.

motbob wrote:
BTW you didn't say WHY you think the chance of him being miller is very low.


Well for the mathematical part: We have 12 townie claims. Out of those 12, 2 are millers. That's 1 out of 6 or 16.66% chance of one person being miller. That would classify as very low. But for I10f, he can't be townie, so we can subtract 3 from that equation. He can be one of the 7 mafia+gf, or one of the two millers. so miller role is 2 out of 9. Or 1 out of 4.5 = 22.22% chance that he is miller.

Is that very low? Well, it is low atleast. But I'd still look for behavior, clues and voting behavior too, and from what I've seen, I don't find it unlikely that I10f is miller.

What is interesting is that Pyrr hands us Ra.Xor.2 on a silver platter through clues, and suddenly no-one wants to lynch him anymore. He was almost lynched the other day, but when his clues get STRONGER, we switch? what?

Don't worry, there's still plenty of time to manouvre. =)

Well then, please maneuver your vote over to Ra.Xor.2 since they way the vote is split, the mafia could vote for whoever isn't Mafia and end the game.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 28 2009 17:38 GMT
#1015
On May 29 2009 02:17 Foolishness wrote:
Okay I'm going to say this again and hopefully you guys will listen:

Do you remember what happened the past 3 lynches when we tried to get a supposed mafia? Every time the person was inactive because they "gave up" and thought it was hopeless. Ra.Xor.2 is exactly the same. I'm relatively certain he's just an innocent townie like the rest. And anyways we have more convincing evidence against other people. I base all my analysis off of behavior, which is a lot more convincing than clues. We tried to base our other lynches off of clues and look at what happened.

There's still a chance Ra.Xor.2 is mafia. Just given our desperate situation we need to go with the most likely. Taking chances like this is going to lose us the game.

Shouldn't you have said this when like

i don't know

we were deciding who to lynch?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 28 2009 19:08 GMT
#1019
On May 29 2009 04:02 Foolishness wrote:
And everybody needs to change your vote off of Ra.Xor.2. Notice how nearly everyone I suspect has voted for him. Nothing is going to happen if the vote stays the way it is.

Everyone you suspect has voted for Pawsom, too. Should we take our votes off of him?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 00:52 GMT
#1032
WTF IS GOING ON
Can someone please explain why everyone is spreading out their votes?
What the hell? I hope you guys are on at midnight to fix whatever the mafia try to pull.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 01:52 GMT
#1034
On May 29 2009 10:48 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 09:52 motbob wrote:
WTF IS GOING ON
Can someone please explain why everyone is spreading out their votes?
What the hell? I hope you guys are on at midnight to fix whatever the mafia try to pull.


Did you not read my long gigantic posts? I basically figured out half the mafia. And I don't think killing Ra.Xor.2 is the best option right now.

If anything is clear, its that we are not currently voting for two mafia.

Well make a bunch of PMs and get an agreement of who to vote for. You obviously didn't do that because everyone's voting willy-nilly.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 02:59 GMT
#1042
On May 29 2009 11:45 Foolishness wrote:
Honestly what are you guys talking about? I have PMed both JeeJee and crate but both are too SHIKYO IS MAFIA SHIKYO IS MAFIA SO IS RA.XOR.2

I told you guys WHAT TO DO! DONT VOTE FOR RA.XOR.2!!! Change to l10f, who is confirmed mafia, rather than Ra.Xor.2, who is just speculation.

The lack of mafia freaking out indicates that we are not killing two mafia. Pawsom seems more likely mafia than Ra.Xor.2, so I'm willing to bet Ra.Xor.2 is not mafia.

crate and JeeJee are easily the reasons this is a town loss. The whole Shikyo is mafia is beyond ridiculous.

What should happen is this:

tonight: town lynches l10f and pawsom: 2 mafia down.
Night: Assume mafia get two kills:
Tomorrow: lynch ydg and phelix

From there with 4 mafia down we got the game in the bag. It will be easy to narrow down the remainders, especially considering wurm is probably mafia. If a few more townspeople die we will know who is left. Then it is gg mafia.

If you're so high on behavioral analysis then look up l10f's posting history. It's clear he's a Miller.

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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 03:44 GMT
#1049
Hmm. Not only did we not lynch a mafia, but a townie died, too.

GG
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 06:31 GMT
#1062
Guys, it's over. Mafia has 8 voting power, town has 7. Tomorrow we will have 6 or less. Pyrr, stop the game please.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 08:16 GMT
#1067
On May 29 2009 15:36 Foolishness wrote:
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On May 29 2009 15:31 motbob wrote:
Guys, it's over. Mafia has 8 voting power, town has 7. Tomorrow we will have 6 or less. Pyrr, stop the game please.


and who's fault is that huh?

It's Pyrr's. I already made the comment that if Ra.Xor wasn't mafia, then the amount of red herrings in the Crucifix killing was unbelievable. After the game is over, maybe I'll write a post about how we were screwed out of this lynch. Absolutely ridiculous.

I'm not saying town lost the game because of Pyrr, I'm saying that we lost this lynch because of him.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 29 2009 10:19 GMT
#1070
On May 29 2009 19:17 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 12:28 JeeJee wrote:
ok
just cluechecked the scarlet embarrassment death release sentence at shikyo and got a positive

hahahahahaha

See my post above? The one I made saying town was screwed? That was written cause I misunderstood the joke.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 30 2009 02:14 GMT
#1100
Look

We have to go on the assumption that Shikyo isn't mafia, because if he is, the mafia has enough straight up voting power to win automatically. There is zero point in lynching him.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 30 2009 04:55 GMT
#1123
On May 30 2009 13:47 Foolishness wrote:
especially with one miller already dead...oh wait he was mafia right? You were soooo sure that he was mafia right?

You waited until everyone had voted for him, then waited another 6 hours, then tried to get people to vote for me (although, was this just an attempt to draw out mafia?), and finally tried to get people to move their votes from Ra.Xor by saying vague things like "there are better candidates" and things like that.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 05:19:22
May 30 2009 05:19 GMT
#1129
On May 30 2009 14:12 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
(from OP)
Detective
You are a super sleuth. Once per night phase, you may PM me to ask one of the following, which I will answer:
1. Does X contain a clue? (Where X is part of a Day post) (called a "Clue Check")
2. Does X contain a clue that points to Y? (Where X is part of a Day post and Y is a player's name) (called a "Clue Check")
3. What is Y's role? (Where Y is a player's role) (called a "Role Check")

X can be no larger than one sentence.

A Role Check cannot be done during Night 1. Only 3 Role Checks may be performed per DT per game. The 3rd Role Check cannot be done before Night 5.

This leads me to think that JeeJee's been spending his abilities trying to find a specific clue leading to Shikyo. If that's true, what a waste. I wish we could have gotten some confirmed mafia earlier.

edit: wording change
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 30 2009 05:32 GMT
#1138
On May 30 2009 14:27 crate wrote:
also jeejee

lmao

that's four "almost" saves from me and zero actual ones

WRONG

you saved me, gj. I dunno why mafia would want to kill me lol
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