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Like I said at the end of the Mafia VII, I think it's within the Town's best interest to vote me as the Mayor.
It's time for change! I'm obviously one of the best candidates. If people would only listen we wouldn't have gotten ourselves in as big a mess as last game.
It is my priority to be more active this game than the last. I hope Qatol will make the proper announcements before posting the Day/Night posts.
With that in mind, here are my qualifications once again:
- Good Instincts/Impulses: I can read people well based on several variables. I'm constantly assessing situations. - Puppet Master: good leadership. I've set several traps for the mafia and town alike. - Instrumental Player: other players will vouch for me and with bodyguard aid it's already an uphill battle for the Mafia. - Good Intel/Informant (detectives will be able to verify this shortly) - Good Entertainer: I will make this fun.
Why not?
- I'm difficult to read and I think outside of the box. I may or may not always be direct. For example, the way I called out SOG. This can be verified with him. I didn't send anything to Caller once I was dead, but I did send one to SOG asking him if he was going for MVP Anyway, a Mayor role would allow me to be more direct with the added protection.
Little aside: Everyone has a few tells, but I know how to keep people on their toes. However, I get right to the point. You won't have to read long posts from me.
- Normally I play on a need to know basis. In other words, I will only share info that is confirmed.
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Look, I have great intuition. I've taken several courses on the Mystery Novel and I've watched/participated in a fair share of murder mysteries/who dun it's. Hell, I even walked in on the guy getting into his ape costume as me and my brother were snooping around the premise, "GOT YA!"
I'm one of the best assets this town has. If I don't get proper protection then all would be lost. You won't have my skills to use.
Let's be smart about this!
EDIT for grammar and styling.
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On May 16 2009 21:29 Mynock wrote:This brings me to my own policies. I disagree with the way of leading the Town which Showtime! has outlined. The game is not about 1-2 players moving behind everyone's back. The Town needs to know all the information (except that which could be used by the Mafia), and that's exactly my policy. Complete transparency. Starting from "need to know" and disclosing information in rare cases is exactly the opposite of that. A good Mayor will want to share as much info as possible, and only if they think it might hurt the Town more than help it, will they resort to a "need to know" basis. So that's it basically, I encourage you to try me out in office, and gl hf all
Predictable as always Mynock!
Where did I ever say that's the way I would lead the town? My post addresses two things:
- I'm running for Mayor - skills I've used in previous TL Mafia games.
In other words, it doesn't address my platform. As Mayor, I will be able to micro-manage our assets accordingly and transparency is the ultimate sacrifice someone has to make in that role. It is detrimental to a Town victory. I'm very familar with the role.
I have no intention relying on 1-2 players at all. I always switch up strategies, regardless of role.
Mayors have to share everything they got. It forces me to keep no Aces in the hole.
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Cause and effect my friend!
There's a reason behind everything. To the naked eye some of the stuff I do might look sloppy, but I assure you there is a rational explanation for what I do.
I was going to make a blog about my posting behaviour between every game so players could get further insight into what I was thinking and how I pulled other players strings. Then I realized it would take far too long unless I kept an up-to-date dairy of every move I made.
Make no mistake, in a Mayor role there will be no confusion.
As I mentioned before, the last post was with regards to my skills I used from previous games. My strengths far outweigh any weakness I may have. Plus the Pardoner is there for a reason. Heck you even said it yourself.
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Yet you draw more attention to yourself by posting that.
I don't see what some of you are getting at.
I made similar moves in two mafia games and that's it. I alternate my strategy from game to game and role to role.
There are two miscues that I can think of off the top of my head.
- Not PMing Amber[Light]. Intuition told me he was hitting me and I didn't do anything about it. Damn Zombies. - Telling Qatol my role. I knew the Town was fucked to begin with. From SOG's posting behavior to Ver's 'inactivity' (add me to your MSN douche), etc. Either way, like I said it didn't matter. In every game I die off faster to Ver and my information gets lost. Do we really want this to happen again?
As of right now, none of the candidates look promising especially those saying, "Hey, I'm fine with number 2!"
You should avoid any fishy business because that will get the Town nowhere. We don't want deja vu with a Ver bandwagon train. I'll hold off from voting for now.
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The candidates keep getting weirder and weirder. Kind of late for that don't you think nemY? How are we expected to take your word?
I thought this was supposed to be TL Mafia veteran version. Not like we haven't seen something like this before, but wow.
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I'd like to know where Plexa and Camlito are too.
Looks like they're both trying to play under the radar.
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See, all nemY did was create confusion.
Congratz.
As Incognito mentioned, he's done this before and that was a ploy. Either way, it looks like everyone is trying to cover their own ass.
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Family reunion was fun. Although, there was one slight problem: I don't speak French.
I didn't get home until around midnight and by that time my phone was dead, so I couldn't message anyone.
I'm happy to see Ace in office but why did you and Ver choose infinity21 instead of nemY?
Sure. It took the guy a while to post. The mods would most likely kill him off anyway for inactivity. I discussed it with Ver amongst others. nemY is a strong candidate for the black role. That card has been used before by the VI.
I would like to hear Ace/Ver's rationale behind it.
EDIT: Just got to Ver's post with regard to it. Thanks.
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Ace is right with regards to the fake DT RCing. It won't go away anytime soon. As for the whole medic protection list. Let's be clear. There are only two of you and about twenty people to protect. I ask you guys to go with your intuition because anything I post publicly or through PM could be used against us.
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On May 20 2009 06:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: neither ver or ace look like they are red.
Please explain.
Someone of your stature should post more than "uhhhh I don't think so-and-so is red." Look at the recent events man. That shit doesn't add up.
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Oh, so because I call you out I'm red? Thanks boss. I'm really following your logic there.
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BC one red herring after a next.
Way to show your true colors. A syringe? First thing you find searching google with my nickname, lmao.
I guess the question becomes: who are you trying to cover up for chump?
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Actually, no I don't.
Nice attempt to derail the hot topic on everyone's mind.
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That was one game.
Do you really think Qatol would use the first thing he finds using google?
You make my eyes sore.
Keep those googlemaps coming.
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Stick to your guns all you want.
I don't care. Your opinion means very little right now.
I'll stick to my behavioral analysis for the time being thank you very much.
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No, it isn't. Clearly there are two factions.
Keep em' posts coming so I can add them to my behavior analysis.
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Captain Obvious for the win.
Killing 2 BGs is a ballsy play. This is strategy man. You can call it dumb all you want. But, who wants predictability?
I'm telling you something doesn't add up.
Who said vet's aren't capable of stupid plays?
Look at what nemY did for christ sake.
3 blues down is major bait, no matter how you slice it.
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I just want to know when voting ends.
I have to be up at 4AM EST tomorrow. I won't be back until 5PM EST. :/
Landscaping pff.
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How is it absurd?
Look at all the time we've wasted.
Based on my analysis Plexa looks just as guilty as them.
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Ver,
I have to be up at 5 again. :/
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I want to hear his reasoning Bockit regardless of color. That is all.
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This is going nowhere. I hope you guys make the right decision. I've waited long enough.
Bed.
EDIT: Ver just posted. READING and then bed.
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So Plexa does have a voice after all. Why do you think Ace is mafia?
As for Ver's post, I really don't know what to make of it until after the lynch.
I'm really confused as to why you would withhold this information from us for this long. Wake up!
All of us are playing bad.
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I'm going to bed.
Too much drama.
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I just did a 13 hour shift and come home to see this shit: Ver committing suicide when I asked him not to; Ace getting lynched and now some scallywags decide to call me out when they KNOW I'm at work and they KNOW I make most of my moves behind the scenes. If you want to talk to me message me. It's as simple as that.
There's a reason I haven't posted much. I'm busy doing clue/behaviour analysis behind the scenes with a few players.
At first I beleieved L was the traitor, but after the recent events he very well might be red. If I live tonight, you can expect my vote. You've done enough damage to this Town as is. Fuck you.
FYI I've been interrogating Ver and Ace behind the scenes to get the story from their perspective. This is why I stuck to my guns by voting for Plexa.
I cannot believe the amount of BS some of you guys are pulling off. I feel like getting modkilled myself
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Talk about drama, pff
I don't feel like playing either with all the bullshit going around, but you know what? I'm still here.
0cz3c would you calm the hell down? Stop blowing a gasket, really. It isn't helping anyone.
Anyway, I'm glad it is the weekend. Now I actually have time to do some clue analysis.
As for MBH and 0cz. Both of you are high on my radar for being mafia.
As for Tricode, BC have you been copying my notes?
I made that connection to L's death as well. Furthermore, Tricode appears to be very combative in all of his posts. Yes, I do behavior too.
Anyway, I think I'm going to vote for Tricode atm. My second choice is still up in the air.
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I'm going over everything again. I have to. I'm still undecided.
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So because I ask you to calm the fuck down I'm mafia? Please bud. Wall of texts won't get us anywhere.
I've read what you had to say and I'm trying to go over my clue/behaviour interpretations as we speak.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said. I have a ton of shit to go over and your long ass posts aren't helping.
I don't want deja vu, i.e. Ace and Ver V.S. L. Enough blues blood has been spilled.
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Did I not say I have him high on my radar too?
You are just looking for a fight.
Just because someone doesn't address your posts doesn't mean they don't agree with it.
Everyone is trying to do their own clue analysis and you aren't helping the cause.
In fact, its deflating the Town's spirit. By asking for a Modkill, you can no longer help us set what is right.
Get a grip and let's try to get the W.
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It's okay man. I still love you
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After further review, Tricode, you still have a lot of explaining to do man. I’m going to make this public for everyone: First PM from Tricode:
Thank you for looking into my request.
I might have a way to prove my innocence through a pm. I'll take you recommendation if you think it might help prove my innocence so we can focus on mafia.
My response:
Agreed, please do man. I'll go over everything before the lynch.
I decide to take him up on his offer in the thread. As an aside, I always review the information I’ve collected before making a final decision.
Tricode’s Second PM:
Thank you for looking into my request.
I might have a way to prove my innocence through a pm. I'll take you recommendation if you think it might help prove my innocence so we can focus on mafia.yo man,
Before Ver died, he let me know that you were an unsubstantiated DT. If this is true, I need you to do a RC on Bockit-Ver highly suspected him. If you aren't a DT, wrong number.
Sincerely, ~a noob
BTW i mentioned in the thread. he was in BC's circle.
Also once he pmed me this. I mentioned it right away to BC.
I don't know what's bc's game here. But he smells fishy.
All those who have died (with the exception of Ace who didn't try to clear anyone name) has looked at me as innocent.
I'm going to be watching what you do with this info. So if you're mafia don't screw with me.
My response:
So through Ver's clue analysis he thought you were a DT. Once he got killed BC PMed you with that? And BC was in Ver's circle?
I don't see how this clears your name. Ver could have been wrong about you man. Apparently Ver was way off on Caller. Please explain this to me in more detail. Sorry, trying to do too much at the same time.
Eating, reading and watching playoffs ;/
Tricode’s defense is incoherent and confusing as fuck. Please, you are trying to defend yourself and this is the best you can do? What am I supposed to make of this? He’s either stupid mafia, or a dumb townie.
His next response:
No, through BC ver thought i was D/T. BC kept calling me out on it but I wouldn't r/c until after Ver said 100% BC was not mafia, though i didn't like his reason entirely.
Caller was the one that pmed me =\ i have no idea why it didn't show his name but i could always print image and past it if i need.
The mommnent caller asked me that, i let b/c know about.
I r/ced to B/c I won't tell you though =\ shouldn't matter. just like how you should not tell me what your role is.
What i am trying to say. The moment Ver died. When night came for Mafia, everyone in B/C's circle died. He even mentioned to me he has an idea who the medic was but the medic wasn't going to protect him. B/C seemed to be doing most of the sniping. I have to go now, redwings game is on.
anyways if i have to i'll just print image and past on the thread to prove my innocence. That waay i have profe i didn't tamper with anything.
My response:
that time you were clear.
I believe posting something like that is against the rules. I know someone who did it before and the mod's got really pissed ;/
It might get us in trouble and banned. Ask Qatol if you are allowed to.
Ironic mode when it comes down to clarity. What was Ver’s reasoning? He never explained. Caller PMed him. Grand, the guy was fucking mafia for Christ sake. For all we know, Tricode could be mafia too. So he R/Cs to Bloody. Yeah, that tells us a lot. For all we know all three of them are mafia. If he was a blue, wouldn’t he be dead by now? Sure, he could still be a dumb Townie, but this guy makes little to no sense at all.
Everyone in BC’s circle died? Look, Ver Modkilled himself and Ace got hanged out to dry by stupid Townies. Wasn’t Caller apart of that circle too? Weren’t YOU apart of that circle too? YOUR circle? Give me a fucking break. You and Caller perhaps found out BC was a non-threat and now you do. Hence you want him gone. Considering L, MBH and DF were the ones to take out Caller. I’d say he did all the sniping. I don’t buy that shit. Oh, you have to go watch the RED Wings now, yeah ok. I know where your allegiance lies. Don’t bother explaining yourself further.
Isn’t this supposed to be a Veteran Game? Haven’t you READ the rules? This goes against the grain and he should know this by now. We aren’t allowed to PS/share Qatol’s role PMs with anybody. Give me a fucking break. This seems dodgy as fuck. He KNOWS he isn’t allowed doing this. This is either an elaborate coverup or stupid ass shit.
His response:
I looked at the rules again. Yeah you're right. Sorry about that. either case i am deciding tomorrow when i wake up to look over the clues again. I refuse to fuck up. Even if BC seems suspicious to me, we seen to much crap go wrong, so unless i find something truly incriminating about him I'll just take it as he doing what he can to find mafia even if he fucked up (assuming he is townie for that part).
-_- Yeah ok, GO FISH! Give me a fucking break Tricode. He’s either a dumb mafia, or a stupid Townie. I’ll let you guys decide.
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Mal what the fuck does that prove?
Yeah, Caller is RED and he's DEAD. The guy was fucking fishing. Everyone knows this now.
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ROFL. Yeah, ok bud if that's how you want to play it so be it. As I said, you are either a dumb townie or stupid mafia and right now the consensus is the latter. I've done my homework with Bockit and Incognito FYI. If you are a dumb townie, let God help us all.
Cock and balls if the Town decides to lynch myself next because it looks like I'm one of the only active players trying to pin reds. Godspeed.
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NO CONFIDENCE?
I went with my first impulse you stupid sack of shit. At least I stuck to my guns.
Here's the thing. Right now we have no organization. Bockit and myself are trying to organize the God damn Town before it is too late. Got that? Good. We won't be sucked into anymore lies.
I don't doubt my abilities. Not for one second bro and I do believe it is time for you to go.
Stop wasting our time and next game I hope you are more clear in your PMs.
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You are sketchy as fuck 'bro.' Why would I make a bet with someone as sketchy as you?
Use your vote however you want! We don't mind! Just keep on waiting until that dial hits to keep one of your own alive!
Mafia cover for the WIN.
Here's some character for you: "You are the weakest link, good-bye!"
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I don't see how that puts either one of us on the block Malongo. It's legit. The kid never denied it. For the record, I shared it with Bockit, Incognito and MBH.
Tricode is flaky as fuck.
EDITED: ? for . -_-
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You call that a bet? I'm a gambler (more than one person here would tell you that), but I get nothing from a bet like that.
This has been far short of a Good Game man. All of us have been playing like shit up to this point. I have nothing to hide man. Sure, BC made similar points. Does that mean I rely on other people's analysis'? Fuck no. Sometimes it helps to have more than one perspective. This was a group consensus.
I'm pissed off at many players right now. It's been very hard to find any motivation to play anymore. All I know is I'm taking a break from mafia games for a while after this one is in the books.
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Good job bud. Congratz you really caught me there.
Your Day 2 Clue accusation of me has already been determined as Caller.
Furthermore, I believe BloodyC0bbler made that same connection. HM, Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
Practice what you breach brother!
Start thinking for yourself.
EDITED: I'm trying to be nicer, truly I am.
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Keep firing blanks man. I already refuted every accusation you've made. GJ
Now would you like a cookie? Mafia scum.
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TL played a joke once on a TL Admin after he was the only one to lose in the showmatch between TL and GG. They changed his icon to that for a few days and it was funny as hell. That's only if you are in fact green.
I'll make that wager.
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Last Romantic got a FAIL icon attached to his name for being the only Admin to lose to GG.net in a Starcraft showmatch they had. It was within the last 6 months so it is fairly recent.
If you turn green. I'm asking the Admnis to change my icon to the FAIL icon for the rest of the game.
I have no hard feelings against anyone man. It's a fucking game and we're trying to do our best to beat the mafia. In ALL the games I've played here I haven't been mafia once. I'm sick of getting Townie roles. I just want this damn game to end.
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We cannot afford to lose anymore Townies. MTF. if you are mafia it disapproves everything you say. You and I both know that.
As for Tricode. Try reading my post at the top of page 88 again. I clearly state you say that was from Caller. As I said already, that proves nothing. For all we know you faked it (yes, no letter head is balls -_-). Stop yanking our chains. We aren't stupid.
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It's based on good intel I'll have you know.
We had a lot more against you but we decided it was in the best interest for the Town to pin only a few targets because that way we're more organized.
If you are wrong we're fucked. It is as simple as that.
As for Tricode, of course the bet still stands. Besides that, you proved nothing. Your PMs still beg the question. I in no way, shape or form used 'Freddy Kruger' shit to pin you.
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You want it? Ok, Bockit will post it then because not only is he the one who originally accused you. Not me. I favored Tricode, HeavonEarth and 0cz more for two reasons:
1. Apart of my original suspects 2. We had a lot more on them.
Besides that Bockit has Admin powers and it's a lot easier for him to pull up your info.
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I know you didn't, but likewise there are a few similarities in my interpretation. L dying in three parts for example.
We have more than enough to put someone like yourself away.
There's a reason why we kept the posts simple, straight forward and right to the point. The only way to organize ourselves is by creating a shortlist of candidates. So far so good. Before we had people on 5+ people. That has changed over time.
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Worst fucking game ever. LOL
Apparently I’m surrounded by blundering idiots. -_-
After speaking with Qatol and LTT I’ve decided to call the game. So without further adieu, here’s a list of all my henchmen!
Godfather Showtime! Traitor BloodyC0bbler Mafia MrBabyHands Caller Amber[Light] Scamp Vivi57
If only you guys weren’t picking at each other’s throats you would have figured us out easily through basic clue interpretation all along even if it was unintentional. Yes many red herrings actually led indirectly to us whether it was intended or not.
FYI Qatol was going to call the game anyway if two townies died during this DL. Simple right? We’ve been playing various circles all along and yet 3 of our mafia members were AFK for more than 3 hours before the final vote. MBH appeared online for two seconds around 10:14, but then mysteriously disappeared. Vivi57 came online at 10:31 without even casting a single vote and he knew he was on the block. Scamp said he would be on around one hour before voting closed and he’s nowhere to be found.
The final vote count was:
0cz: 9 Vivi: 8 Tricode: 8
MTF was right all along. The Mafia had the vote all along and somehow we miraculously fuck it all up. Sound familiar? Fuck, I don’t know where to begin with all you guys.
Anyway, GG. I’m definitely not playing a game of Mafia for a while.
Award time:
Town MVP: 0cz – yeah you should have listened to him sooner. Just because he pissed you off one game doesn’t mean he isn’t smart.
Clue Rape: MTF – this guy nailed a lot of us, regardless of red herring or not.
Town’s WORST PLAYER: Collective whole. There is a reason why Qatol and LTT wanted to end this game abruptly and I never knew it would be me closing it. LMAO.
Mafia MVP: Even though MBH was MIA (yet he showed up for around ten seconds, LOL) I have to give it to him. Yes, this guy is as good as they say. He found almost all the blues out by day 2. Not only that, the son of a bitch took out one of his own to protect himself. He’s red baby. And I like it.
Runner Up: Caller – I knew he would give himself up eventually because he doesn’t know how to shut the fuck up. He even blatantly gave me away with his Puppet Master pic.
Worst Mafia: Vivi57 and Scamp – 10:31 and you don’t even think to vote until then? We had this in the bag and it took three of you to be inactive. Yes, it is MBH fault too. -_-
Anyway, I will EDIT this in the morning. My GF just got back from a trip to Montreal.
GG ALL
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The games over Tricode. Not only that but I was the GF. Hence it was legit. You gave me everything I needed to get rid of you easily and yet my team didn't pull through.
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None of you guys caught onto the right clue. The Tricode red herring was actually me. NHL Hockey anyone?
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On May 24 2009 14:30 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2009 14:25 Showtime! wrote: The games over Tricode. Not only that but I was the GF. Hence it was legit. You gave me everything I needed to get rid of you easily and yet my team didn't pull through. No i didn't cause it didn't pull through sorry. Plus i had people defending me and willing to pull out in the last second if i requested it. What you think i was doing through pms? You were not the only person i talked to. Why you think Ocz3c pulled out from me? You took my bait and if i died you and cob were coming down with me if everything went right. You could of killed me but i don't think you or Cob would of gotten away after that.
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My God you truly are slow.
You should just stop talking in general. Next time you send anyone a PM get your story straight and make sure you are crystal clear. It didn't matter how many people you shared that crap with.
There was enough filler in your PMs and in the thread to make people think you were
a) stupid mafia b) stupid townie
BC and I had a fool proof plan. It just so happens half our team was MIA to seal it. We had four more votes to use when it was all said and done. Sorry bud.
Next time play smarter
On May 24 2009 14:32 Tricode wrote: 12 townies left 6 mafia.
would have been tie =\.
Damn you're right mafia would have the advantage.
Wrong. It would have been 9v6. We would have picked off easy targets like RoL, Scar, Cam (who was about to be modkilled anyway, but I knew he would show up at the last minute anyway ;p). This Town played so bad, I don't even know where to begin. I was so pissed last night, I told my team about 7 hours in advance what was going down and they didn't pull through lol.
P.S. Sorry Scamp, I was livid last night and I retract my statement. Yes you had one on Tricode and it wouldn't have changed anything from that stand-point. I didn't have a lot of time to make my posts. It was mostly on MBH and Vivi. Damn Saturdays!
On May 24 2009 15:30 Ace wrote: oh and nemy was by far the worst player in the game
Nah, man. Almost everyone on your side of the fence played so bad, I don't even know where to begin. You guys made our heads spin. Neither Qatol, LTT or myself wanted this game to go on any longer than need be.
In reality, we didn't have to do anything. Sniping is pretty easy when you have Matt (MBH) on your side. He got every fricking blue right. Our clue/behavioural analysis was very thorough and concrete. We spoke at length about Lucas and MM, but I must admit. Those hits were a fluke. I told all of the boys that we would be lucky to get 1 blue out of three. We just so happened to hit all 3.
If you see a lot of blues go down. You can be certain MBH is red. On paper we had a very strong mix of players.
Qatol told me he had to roll the mafia twice because the first team was too strong, lol.
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No, it wasn't 'bud.' We had good clue analysis and behaviour analysis. I'm just going to stop it right here because I know how piss poor you are at defending yourself.
EDIT: It was a team effort. Who do you think helped put that shit together in the first place?
There's a reason why I make most of my 'plays' behind the scenes.
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On May 25 2009 04:52 Ace wrote: @Showtime!
You guys were a lot farther from the win than you think. The game only tipped when you and MBH came out in public and started posting.
Before that, if anyone was paying attention you guys pretty much had no chance to win because you were too exposed. Once Ver died - you, Caller, and BC were all out in the open.
Also lol @ blue sniping: look at what MBH just posted. Come on man how many times do I have to tell you guys I don't believe in that shit. If people just stop trying to play the game in PM land and keep their heads in the thread they'd stop fucking themselves and the town over.
Do you want to read our MSN chat logs?
Matt not only knew who was blue (with the exception of Lucas and MM because there was no way of telling they were BGs), but he knew their exact role.
Originally we were going to get Heavon and Tricode. 9v6 or 8v6 (with Cam Modkilled). Do the math and look who was left.
It would have been easy. We had everything planned out, so don't give me that whole 'you were far from winning shit.' Qatol was going to end the game as long as we lynched off two greens. End of story. There were too many mishaps and all of us were sick and tired of it.
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No Ace. That isn't it at all. LMAO. You really have no idea what was going on, sorry.
Once again: Qatol, LTT and I just wanted the buffoonery to end. There was no need to drag it out any longer, especially with the last fuck up coming from our side. All Vivi and MBH had to do was vote. Too many players were totally clueless. I told Qatol if he wasn't going to call it, I was. This game was nothing short of embarassing. Yes, with Vivi/0cz getting lynched it legitimized everything MTF and 0cz had said previously and many of our players would be compromised. :. Yes, it would be stupid to drag it out. This doesn't mean it was over. We still had several options open to us. As mafia, you have to be able to boldly predict and map out the all the dif. scenarios. The mafia did their homework each night, except for the final vote.
Our MSN logs tell the whole story. Matt identified everyone except for MTF and the bodyguards correctly.
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