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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 02:33 GMT
#531
I don't get why you folks are so anxious on lynching me immediately; once I provide C/C's and R/C's it should be pretty friggin' obvious that I'm a DT (unless I fabricate them or hit the GF).
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 02:35 GMT
#533
On May 18 2009 11:33 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 11:32 Ace wrote:
here we go again. Mafia managed to make people take votes off of me, and no one read Ver's post.

Gotta love this town.


If it makes you feel better, I read ver's post.


I read Ver's post too! Kinda makes me think that he is the traitor
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 02:43 GMT
#540
On May 18 2009 11:36 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 11:35 nemY wrote:
On May 18 2009 11:33 Tricode wrote:
On May 18 2009 11:32 Ace wrote:
here we go again. Mafia managed to make people take votes off of me, and no one read Ver's post.

Gotta love this town.


If it makes you feel better, I read ver's post.


I read Ver's post too! Kinda makes me think that he is the traitor


Lol do you really think you're in a position to say things like this right now ;p?


I guess from now on I won't post much anymore
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 02:44 GMT
#542
it's baseball season?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 03:05 GMT
#550
On May 18 2009 12:01 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 09:10 Ace wrote:
I'd tl:dr your post Ver, but I just masturbated and got a sudden burst of energy.

I'll also only address the part of your post directly with my name in it, since if a post doesn't include my name I skip it.


Ace is taking this too far. He had his rope. He had his opportunity to go appear innocent. And he hung himself on it. It is not in the town's interests to lynch Nemy. Because here's the thing, we don't want to lynch the traitor. The traitor has no ACTUAL power. The traitor's only power is influence and words. He can cause mass chaos. But if we know who the traitor is, he is POWERLESS. Nemy is not mafia unless he is a sacrifice. That means we have no reason to lynch him! Yet Ace is going all out trying to get this.

Look at this from a behavior standpoint: Mafia are the ones who are this aggressive. See RoL and Attackzerg trying to get Ace lyched/discredited in BC's first game. Now for a direct comparison: remember when Ace defended mikeymoo in Caller's game (Ace was innocent so was Mikeymoo)? He was voracious in defending mikeymoo, but he was not voracious in lynching BC even though BC was full of BS. Yes he wanted BC lynched but he didn't go crazy like he is now. Because that's a sure sign of mafia behavior: being overaggressive to get a lynch.

In case anyone wants to relate to the Folca/Ace scenario, that is a completely different thing. Because then Folca roleclaimed with a specific intent to prove something, i,e that Ace was mafia. Thus in that circumstance Ace's logic train is true and the correct choice of action (and he would've done it if he was townie I'm sure). Because if you lynch the accuser you know everything about the accused role. However, now here Nemy just plain roleclaimed. WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE LYNCH HIM? WE GET NO BENEFIT. NOTHING.

Under the present circumstances there is NO reason to lynch Nemy.

Ace you screwed up. This is not Savior sense. This is not to the benefit of the town.

And you people who agree with his logic (mikeymoo, bockit), you guys better think through exactly what he's recommending. Game 3 and now are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Furthermore, the Ace voting train, you guys are all suspect. You people are clearly trying to push him into mayor over me. Not gonna happen. I'll dissect through suspects in a bit.


Sorry - but this is where you fucked up. I've said it plenty of times, I'm aggressive because it's how I feel like being. Whether I'm townie or Mafia I play with a free conscience because I honestly don't think anybody can read anything I do and you've just proven my point. You can also ask Mr.BabyHands - I've played an aggressive townie style before. It's not a Mafia trait at all.

Now onto your analysis of nemy. You've failed to point out something significant: The difference between this game and the game with BC was that I pointed out that BC might be the Village Idiot hence we don't even care what happens to him. The real danger is lynching mikeymoo because we have no information about him based on what BC did. This scenario is different as there is no one being accused - this is just a role claim at a bad time.

What also makes this different is that unlike when Empyrean claimed DT on Day 1, nemy lied. In Mafia 2 I had no reason to lynch Empyrean as soon as I got Mayor because empyrean only claimed to be a DT and didn't say anything about having a way to prove it. So we just let him be.

nemy got caught in a lie. Badly. See the difference? If nemy was a DT that just played his hand wrong we could surely just say ok buddy, no office for you and keep things hush after that. He lied on got caught and that changes everything as an innocent doesn't have to lie to the town on information that would help us greatly. Hell, he STILL hasn't even given it to us and when asked he tried to be cool like me - but failed.

Also if nemy is a traitor - of course we lynch him. Do we have a better suspect? I don't think so. If he's a traitor that means he isn't working for the town which means he should die. Simple, really.

See how all these scenarios are different? Nothing anyone says can explain why nemy lied. Nothing. So he gets the lynch. As for my vote train - meh. Whats so suspect about it? People know a good candidate when they see one.

As for me being buddy/buddy with Mynock - what's the problem? I've supported him in every game I've played and there's no secret about it. I don't even have any clue what his role could possibly be but I've said this so many times - there isn't any reliable way to find out anybody's role right now so I base my votes off of ABILITY. Since I believe Mynock is one of the best candidates I voted for him. go ahead and try to analyze that, you'll end up like Versatile and we see how her logic worked out.

So once again I'll state your analysis has FAILED. Based on pure playing ability myself and Mynock should be in office over anyone else, with the exception of maybe BC. Showtime! and Caller do better outside of leadership roles.

I'm interested in hearing your retort to this post.


Good.

This is what I wanted to see. You can rest assured that I'll update the mafia %'s accordingly.

I didn't make a lynch post like I did with Mandalor/Scaramanga two games ago. I made a provocative post.

I still think Showtime is the best candidate for office (besides caller/bc) but after seeing this I'm pretty happy with the chance of your innocence and I'd like to see you in office (over mynock).

As for Nemy:

I agree he lied. If you noticed I made sure to call him out asap. However, I still think it's such a boneheaded play to make if he's mafia unless he's offered up as a sacrifice.

I also think it's a bad idea to lynch even a confirmed traitor, much less an ambigious one. Remember, traitor counts towards the town's winning numbers and does not help us get any closer to killing the mafia. The only thing the traitor can do is vote with the mafia (IF he knows who the mafia are). I agree voting for Nemy for office is retarded. But at the same time I want the mafia to waste their kill forcing our decision (or letting him prove himself innocent/guilty by staying alive). Why should we waste our KP on this when we can make the mafia waste KP?

The only reason we should is if he's mafia. But I just cannot fathom a situation outside of offering him up as bait to prove someone innocent for him to be mafia. His posts are just so DUMB. Like he could've even called out mafia members as ppl who messaged him and they both could've fabricated pm's. But he didn't. I can't see him being mafia at all.

For Mayor voting:

Can someone point me to an updated list.

Remember I called out both Ace AND Mynock.

Several people have switched from Ace. Guys, feel free to switch back. I still want Showtime elected but I don't think there are enough votes.

However, Mynock's voters have mostly stayed there even though they are online. That is a pretty big indication of something fishy.

Bigger question@ Ace:

What do you think of MBH? He's smart enough to know that a simple vote and run is going to get him looked at. So what's his story?


If I was mafia and I got called out or w/e and wanted fellow mafia to verify the PMs I doubt they'd do it, simply on the basis that they don't want to EVER have a connection with me...
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 04:32 GMT
#563
While i'm interested to see what happens, i'm going to go to sleep; RoL there was no late push for me, people kept changing votes. Lynch whoever you feel most comfortable with.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 04:36 GMT
#568
ah nvm, it's too early i'ma grab something to eat and i'll be back in a bit.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 05:32 GMT
#588
so we gonna get a lynch here in the next half or not?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 06:40 GMT
#601
On May 18 2009 15:26 L wrote:
According to ace himself he has no consistent playing style. If he does, then you must recognize that a significant portion of his statements about his own actions are flat out lies.

Contradiction.

You staying silent until post vote is not maximizing the town's strengths either.

Show nested quote +
nemy's actions have kicked off a flurry of discussion that was great for collecting data. he's not the only player who revealed his role.
This is very true.



Oh shit Ace lied? TO THE GALLOWS!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 06:44 GMT
#603
On May 18 2009 15:42 Tricode wrote:
uhm, not to defend Ace to much here, but what if that is how Ace actually thinks?


So... wait you're trying to say Ace thinks like a pathological liar?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 06:46 GMT
#608
On May 18 2009 15:44 Ace wrote:
ahhhh once again nemy shows up to remind us why we should ignore him. Good thing that scrub wasn't elected.


You still pushing for my lynching? How's that sucking of Ver's cock going? You doing it good? Nice n' slow now, make it sloppy and wet.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 06:51 GMT
#612
On May 18 2009 15:47 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 15:46 nemY wrote:
On May 18 2009 15:44 Ace wrote:
ahhhh once again nemy shows up to remind us why we should ignore him. Good thing that scrub wasn't elected.


You still pushing for my lynching? How's that sucking of Ver's cock going? You doing it good? Nice n' slow now, make it sloppy and wet.


wow Ver isn't gonna like this.



He was actually the one trying to save you. Lol you still can't read.

Somebody's mad they didn't get elected!


Nope not mad at all. Bet you are though. Would be nice to simply msg Qatol, "NEMY" and get this over with, know what I mean?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 06:56 GMT
#616
That's cold Ace. Real cold. Ordering a vig hit on somebody just because you don't like em.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 07:01 GMT
#619
On May 18 2009 16:00 Ace wrote:
Ver asked me about a few people to lynch. So he's probably still deciding on who he wants to kill.


good to know, do we know when he'll get back to qatol about this?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 18 2009 17:10 GMT
#650
On May 18 2009 16:07 Ace wrote:
How is he punishing the town? Nemy played dumb, and in a game this level he got caught in a big lie.

Hence, he's very likely mafia.

Sorry but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

As for my trio, I don't know about those other 2 guys for sure but I'm innocent. Detectives should be checking Mynock, BC, Showtime! and Caller soon anyway.


Hypocrite. You know that's BS, EVERYBODY knows that's BS. Drop it already.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 19 2009 04:01 GMT
#747
hey what you guys want for clue check? i just got back from a meeting.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 19 2009 05:14 GMT
#792
Incog, could you restructure your post please? I'm having trouble following it lol. Oh yeah, if you're looking for the continuation (and subsequent last post between Lucas and myself) it's this:


From: LucasWoJ
Subject: Re: So?
Date: 5/18/09 13:09

Will you vote for showtime?
-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Will you vote for me as mayor/pardoner?


I think he was part of the group of people that wanted to make a late push for Showtime! as mayor.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 19 2009 05:17 GMT
#795
nothing useful, "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." is red-herring. I'ma die tonight.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 19 2009 05:25 GMT
#802
On May 19 2009 14:23 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 14:17 nemY wrote:
nothing useful, "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." is red-herring. I'ma die tonight.

could we get the actual pm pls?


Can you guarantee my protection for tonight?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 19 2009 05:28 GMT
#812
Ugh fine take it for what it's worth please.


Original Message:
No, that is not a clue. Red herring!
http://sketchedout.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/red-herring_color.jpg

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
since i'm running out of time, been busy, and haven't receieved much input i'll ask, is "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." a clue related to any mafia players? If i had more time and had actually been thinking about it, i'd get a better question. Enjoy.
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