Qatol's was part of a pre-arranged deal and Fishball I guess is choosing to vote for BC rather than kill him as he normally would.

But yes candidates should be judged on their merits of their proposal.

I won't be here for all of tomororow so I'm not running and whoever has the best plan + accountability gets my vote.

rather than kill him as he normally would.

Define "normally". The one time I killed BC, I was Mafia.
Your phrase sounds like I've always been doing so.

Among early runners, Caller, BC, and motbob, to me BC is the most favorable candidate, and I'm sure a lot would agree for obvious reasons.
Like I said, since the first morning post did not have any clues directed to BC (not even minor ones, "yet"), BC gets my vote.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 18 2009 00:45 GMT

#345

On March 18 2009 09:41 Tricode wrote:
I put my vote with Cob. Don't douche this first game up for me man, or I'll go to Canada and hunt you down.

Not sure if your post would "qualify" to count as a valid vote.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 18 2009 04:22 GMT

#403

On March 18 2009 10:43 Ace wrote:

Well past experience isn't going to help on this one - the rules of the game are different. With the plan these guys have come up with, Mafia claiming vigi is really a valid concern. Even without mafia interference the plan has some big holes but we can't just assume Mafia won't try.

Your example actually helps my argument - Tim is highly suspicious. If Tim doesn't flip Mafia the town has just FUCKED up. Bob can be Mafia or legit Vigi but we won't know without solid clue analysis. Even if the clues are worded in a way that shows bob as a vigi(which it won't btw since there are barely any big codenames to go on so far, and even if there were we'd be trying this too early to be able to seperate Mafia codenames from Vigi codenames) what do we do now? Send in all the roles to Bob, who absorbs tons of medic prot and even if he lives now has to sort out liars and coordinate DTs and use up all the rolechecks on the liars? All of you are making the classic mistake you make every game - you look at the good side of the "what if" example and always forget the other side, which more than likely will happen. This time the good side isn't even that good as it's a plan with so many flaws.

Very high risk for moderate gain. The best bet for this plan to work is to hope that Bob is a legit Vigi that also happens to be running for Sheriff/Mayor. Even then it probably won't work out well.

Holy shit, the part I bolded was pretty much the conversation I brought up with BC on MSN this afternoon when I was at work.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 18 2009 04:25 GMT

#405

I was proposing a 3-DT-roleclaim-during-second-"morning" plan, with 3 DT's checking each other out, but deemed it would be too risky, and not really worth the risk/gain ratio at the end.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 18 2009 04:27 GMT

#406

On March 18 2009 13:24 Ace wrote:
Fishball stop lying...you don't have a job.

Shit, you must have seen me under the bridge with my begging gear on the other night...

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 18 2009 05:39 GMT

#418

To be fair, Ace your argument is logical and I totally agree with the time factor, but the rules are the rules and you must agree that there have been worst rules out there created by other hosts; Not that I'm saying Chuiu's rule is really a bad one.

Lets just let it go and focus back onto this game.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 19 2009 05:44 GMT

#557

Call me skeptical or whatever, but I somehow have a bad feeling with Semioldguy in the office.

A lot of people who voted for Semioldguy didn't have much reasoning behind their votes if I recall correctly. Then there was a "minor" vote swing near the deadline. Yes it might not mean anything, but still.

Semioldguy was linked to a "hearing problem" clue, though it was weak.
Pika Chu was linked to, well multiple "clues" according to Pyrrhuloxia, but it also doesn't make sense to have multiple clues directing at a single person during the first morning post.
0cz3c used to be a funny(annoying?) troll in previous games, but all of a sudden he is "serious" this game, though he had only a few posts. To my speculation, it is like "Hey I got a good role! I better not screw around this time and lay low".

It was also already brought up that there is a high probability that Mafia would take a run at the office.

The picture fits.
I might be wrong, as this is all just my own speculation, but hey, things make sense.

My point is, people might want to keep an eye on the list of people who voted for Semioldguy.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 19 2009 13:31 GMT

#594

Ooo, one down nine to go.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 19 2009 18:03 GMT

#624

I'm urging for the day to end and see if I would survive the Night.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 21 2009 05:04 GMT

#822

If Ver did kill Scaramanga, and the clues are directed to him, it seems somewhat subtle.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 21 2009 17:50 GMT

#919

On March 21 2009 19:55 Scaramanga wrote:
dude... you died
-mod edit
Edit: fine glhf town

Some people JUST HAVE TO do this every game.
Making a good bye post is one thing.

But if you can't control yourself, you should not be playing.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 21 2009 20:45 GMT

#940

I vote to lynch Rice.

I vote for Double Lynch.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 21 2009 21:00 GMT

#944

On March 22 2009 05:47 redtooth wrote:

Show nested quote +

Dude. Vote for mandalor.

No.
It wouldn't matter either way.

We'll see what happens after tonight's lynch.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 22 2009 06:02 GMT

#997

So we already have enough votes for double lynch.
I assume we could cast our 2nd lynch in now?

Mandalor is pretty much dead no matter what, so I'll just leave my first vote at Rice.

I vote my second lynch vote on Humbug

edit: typo

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 22 2009 06:18 GMT

#1001

On March 22 2009 15:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

Show nested quote +

We don't vote on who it is till Day 3.

No such rule.

@Bockit: Cool thanks, I guess I'll leave it up there for now, since I don't want to edit too much.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 22 2009 06:22 GMT

#1003

If you go by the first page:

Double Lynch - Usable three times per game, the next day the town lynches two people instead of one. This means everyone gets two votes to distribute between two different people. The double lynch is elected by everyone. The vote must exceed half the number of players voting that day. IE: If there are 40 players voting then the town needs 21 votes to use a double lynch. Double lynches may be used everyday.

Specifically the phrase, " the next day", it really depends how you interpret it. eg. you and Bockit.
Anyways, I'll just let my votes sit there for now.

Fishball

Canada4787 Posts

March 22 2009 09:29 GMT

#1012

On March 22 2009 16:52 semioldguy wrote:
The double lynch is NOT auto-passed at this point. People should still vote for it if they want it to pass since with each additional voter it increases the difficulty to pass the double lynch by another one-half of a vote. meaning if 14 people spam voted right now without also voting to double lynch, we would get no double lynch tomorrow since the 21 votes we have now would no longer be equat to half of the voters.

I'm just going with what Chuiu has on page 50.

He specifically wrote "29 (16 needed)", so your argument is null.