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Infundibulum

United States2552 Posts

March 21 2009 06:03 GMT

#833

On March 21 2009 14:59 redtooth wrote:
Now that my semi-rage post is over with, let's get down to business. Ace was probably jailed to protect him from hits. The question now is: did a medic actually do his job and block a hit or was the fifth hit on Ace. Medics, just because someone is on Ace's list of the "vets" doesn't mean you shouldn't save them. Ver's death is going to be a big blow to us.

I'm surprised that they killed Scaramanga (assuming Ver didn't pick him off). He would have probably have wasted one of our lynches. Obviously a mistake on the mafia's part so we can assume that they weren't too active in the last hours of the night when Ver started pressing Scara.

Clue analysis will probably be the name of the game. If you aren't willing to post (as many people are claiming to be) then go through people's profiles and google/wikipedia odd sounding names. We can redeem this debacle.

To Chuiu: There's no way of us knowing if the medics/dt were afk or inactive right? If we lose because our medics are "at work" then I propose we ban them. This night was ridiculous.

The mafia hit on Scara is really weird, becaus eif he was given a bg role (even if it was mistaken!) it means that he was green, because blues cannot be given a bg role. So we can conclude that either the mafia messed up or they hit him for two plasusible reasons:

1)Scara was somehow still bodyguard maybe
2)Scara had been in contact with players via PM and be good to eliminate.

It just doesn't fit though. I hope I'm not misinterpreting the rules, because I don't think it's possible that a vigi could have knocked off Scara.

Infundibulum

United States2552 Posts

March 22 2009 00:15 GMT

#973

#I vote for double lynch

haven't decided who to lynch yet.

BTW the Humbug clue you guys are talking about - the theme of deception - fits well with the killer on Day 1 who helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him.

Infundibulum

United States2552 Posts

March 22 2009 05:53 GMT

#996

I vote for Mandalor

I've been as active as I can, Caller. Not really sure what you're comparing my previous levels of activity to. The only game I can remember being at least somewhat active was BC's, where i did clue analysis.

Infundibulum

United States2552 Posts

March 22 2009 17:12 GMT

#1018

On March 22 2009 15:03 Caller wrote:

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Your posts so far are a mismatch of anti-vigi plan posts and uninformativeposts about last night-a lot of aomething that says nothing, and you haven't really done the clue analysis that you did last games.

Like I said: i've been as active as i can so far. School + job and other commitments take up a lot of time. I have 2 very difficult exams coming up and have to spend the next few days preparing. Perhaps after that i'll have more time to debate in here, and i apologize that i have not been able to contribute as much as i used to. And btw, only a couple of my posts this game have been uninformative. Please do not generalize.

In any case i have a couple hours free time now so let's make a post.

I suppose i should probably make a comment about the artery thing Pyrr posted. I do not think this is a clue that links to me. Let's see why:

Ver's major arteries were stabbed into and they left him there to bleed out and die.

First off we see that we are talking in plurals here; there is more than one artery. Where are the major arteries in the body? Thigh/leg (femoral) , neck (jugular), wrist/arm (carpal?), and heart (aorta).Ver got stabbed in these places. So pyrr is referring to the infundibulum in the heart. Problem is this guy was stabbed in many places, not to mention the heart is behind the rib cage and so rather more difficult to stab. Additionally: there is more than one infundibulum in the body, and only one is located near an artery. If Chuiu was to wikipedia my name to make a clue, it is safe to assume he would have noticed this.

And who is the first person to say "nice find?" Ashwtini, someone who has already been singled out for behaving strangely. Caller, who is already suspicious of me for other reasons - suspicions which may be somewhat justified, although misplaced.

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If we are assuming the sentence is a clue, the thing to note about it is that the killer is very knowledgeable and skilled to be able to target the major arteries with lethal precision. What's more important about Ver's killers though is that one is covered in tattoos and symbols, and the other appeared pathetic at fighting and was actually skilled. Both of those characteristics are unique descriptors that we can expect to see again (though in a different form) in the coming day posts. I admit i'm having a difficult time getting a solid link from these clues to anyone. A connection to the tattoos could be mikeymoo's profile, which is just a list of random stuff, similar to the tattoos. But i don't think his behavior matches. Someone who appears pathetic at fighting could be a semi-old-guy, or a LeperKahn (would you expect a leprechaun to appear skilled at fighting)? Those are both weak though.

Here i think is the ideal course of action:
1. Mandalor is hung (he always dies early. cursed? probably.)
2. He is mafia or miller. We learn a bit about SoG.
3. Nightfall. Rice may be vigi'd - i wouldn't be surprised to see it. Lowering KP to 5.
4. People die. Hopefully not very many. Clues are had.

After Rice who is good as dead, my current favorite suspicion based on clues is Humbug.
Also, people please keep in mind Versatile's mafia character list when clue analyzing:

On March 22 2009 06:26 Versatile wrote:
3. As for the mafia personalities, I've come up with:
a. Powerful, dressed in all black, armed man this may be Rice.
b. Weak, pathetic fight man
c. Tattooed biker man
d. Person-in-charge w/ bum characteristics The collector. Humbug possibly?.
e. Person possible multiple arms from Day 1 (or is a Pikachu lol)
f. Explosions man who sets traps and taunts.

My additions in bold.

edit: grammar

Infundibulum

United States2552 Posts

March 24 2009 01:58 GMT

#1120

On March 24 2009 08:42 semioldguy wrote:
I definitely want to hear from others how we should handle this as a town.

Mandalor's lynch doesn't conclusively prove you as innocent, but it is a strong argument. It is possible that you would be mafia, seeing Mandalor's lynch inevitable, and pose as dt to seal the deal on his lynch and gain you trust for the town, even though doing so loses KP. If you were mafia you also would not pretend to claim his innocence because that would have been easily counter checked by a real DT. So basically your innocence comes into question if a large quantity of blues start mysteriously dying.

My gut feeling is that you are telling the truth.

The innocence of the other two detective can be ascertained when:

1.we see who is killed at night
2. what their clue/rolechecks come back as. if they lie, something will eventually turn up that exposes them, either from deaths or further rolecheck. It is then your job to expose this... i think.