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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2009 04:24 GMT
#404
Fishball stop lying...you don't have a job.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2009 05:09 GMT
#411
Something like that. the plan just can't work early not only because we have to see how the clues/codenames shape up if they appear, but the town has to also figure out how to piece some clues together to fit with each suspect.

Once you have a solid set of clues without DT help, then you can try the plan. Of course it will still have some holes, but by then if we have a few Mafia kills I'm sure they'd be less inclined to easily throw members into it even if it might still be a risky idea.

It's kinda like PvT. You don't go for Carriers asap because you don't have the resources and because you need more information from your Obsevers to know when to do it. That's what this current plan is like, except we might need some HTs too to storm the gollies.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2009 05:10 GMT
#412
On March 18 2009 14:08 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Lol what happened game 3?



Chuiu was doing dumb shit no sane mod would do in Mafia. I addressed it before the bullshit happened, he ignored, the bullshit happened anyway and he thinks it's everyone else's fault.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2009 05:13 GMT
#414
On March 18 2009 14:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
To avoid a fake vigi we could only give a potential vigi one try until we cycle to the next one but then we can't protect them all and mafia will kill real vigis whose hits got stolen. I'm losing hope for this plan, tbh. If Ace's secret plan is a winner if / when he reveals it I won't stand in its way and I'll help if it requires Mayor and / or Sheriff action.


My secret plan isn't so hot

Really, all it is:

1.) decide if I should try to get elected or not
2.) based on this, reveal my role
3.) if elected and role is revealed, start trying to verify the two people in this game I know for sure would can come up with something to catch liars
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2009 05:24 GMT
#416
On March 18 2009 14:18 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 14:10 Ace wrote:
On March 18 2009 14:08 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Lol what happened game 3?



Chuiu was doing dumb shit no sane mod would do in Mafia. I addressed it before the bullshit happened, he ignored, the bullshit happened anyway and he thinks it's everyone else's fault.

Typical you would just flame me instead of explaining it to him.

They lost an extra hit on one night of game 3 because they lost someone to a vigilante hit. Ace bitched and moaned about their suicide bomber decreasing the hit count when they asked ahead of time if it would or not, but it was the vigilante hit that did it. Of course he just keeps bitching about it, but if they would have hit a Vigilante before the Vigilante sent a hit against them they would never have bitched about that.


*yawn*

And this is why we said you're an idiot.

Yes obviously we should have hit the vigilante because...we know who he is? Brilliant. Like we have a list of all the Blues in the game from the get go.

The problem wasn't solely the fact that it was who got hit - it was that you did it in the first place. In Mafia there isn't supposed to be altered kill lists. It shouldn't matter who sends in what hit first - everything goes through because then it's unfair to both sides. Of course with TEAMLIQUID being an international site, and most of us having jobs/school I'd think it would be even more painfully OBVIOUS doing this is just fucking some players over. There's just no way every time the right person is going to be able to get their PM in to send in a hit/protection or whatever. It's a stupid system that rewards whoever gets it in first when that should have 0 impact on the game. And you can call it bitching and moaning if you want but that one night did change the game dramatically.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2009 21:15 GMT
#442
Um wow why is this game activity dead?

Anyway Detectives, the first people you should investigate are the people voting. I still don't see how it's possible people could be voting because others offered their candidacy early like that has any importance whatsoever on being innocent or guilty. We've already established that can't be proven so it's pointless. Right now we should be trying to get veteran and good players with a good track record in that sheriff/mayor spot. The only one of them that fulfills that is BC as he's played for so long, but I still think MrBabyHands is a much better player as he has really good analysis abilities. I'm sticking my vote with him.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 01:56 GMT
#502
After reading the past few pages I'm convinced Pyrr should not be in a position of power. How can you try and force clues on Pika Chu when it's only been one day? Thats crazy. You jump to conclusions way too fast on shaky information. Just keep Pika chu as a top suspect and move on.

Guys. No one has plan. Forget it. Vote based on who we'd rather keep ALIVE at this point. Surely between myself and Ver if we're both innocent we'll be dead before Day 2. There aren't enough medics to protect us both.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 01:58 GMT
#504
I know man

I'd rather have you protected over Pyrr tho. I just see it as a big mistake.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 08:17 GMT
#564
@redtooth: I wasn't going to run for Mayor if I saw good candidates. I started late and the only person that I'd back was Mr.BabyHands.

That being said, leave the Pika Chu shit alone. He shouldn't even be close to being lynched. A DT will probably check him out and figure it out from there or we'll wait for more clues. This is exactly why I said you shouldn't be in any position of power.

No idea why anyone would vote semioldguy in, good going town. so now me, Ver, Camlito, Mr.BabyHands, Versatile and other good players are left out in the cold.

Real smart.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 08:18 GMT
#565
oh I forgot to add in Qatol and Caller too
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 08:32 GMT
#568
Mr.BabyHands is a mafia player from another website that I invited last game. I voted for him because I put his game playing ability on the same level as pretty much any top-tier Mafia player here. Secondly, I never said the IRC infiltration was lame. I was actually somewhat indifferent to it ^_^

We just had to end the game because of all the problems it caused.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 08:44 GMT
#572
Make lots of sense
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 08:59 GMT
#576
hmmm shit just got interesting
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 09:07 GMT
#578
!!!

RebirthofLegend of all the inactives?

oh no
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 09:17 GMT
#582
even so, expect to see a lot of rage when he signs on lol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 13:18 GMT
#590
L
M
A
O

omg I don't think we'll ever hear the end of RoL complaining now
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 13:43 GMT
#596
*Once again steps up on podium, adjusts tie and waves arms to quiet the crowd down*

Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you - The Plan.

I came up with this while making a sandwich last night, so I'm pretty sure this is going to work.

The idea from this plan sprang from the mindset of the DTs not being able to be rallied. It also comes from the realization that medics can not protect enough vet players this game, so unfortunately some of us will die. We've got to use this little disadvantage and turn it into something positive, and I've come up with an idea.

I'm going to put myself in the shoes of a Mafia player for a second. If I wanted to kill any vet players this game, this is a list of players I'd target for Night 1 death above all else.


Camlito
Qatol
BloodyC0bbler
Ver
Caller
Bockit
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Ace
MrBabyHands
Versatile
Scaramanga
JL13


That's a list of twelve potential targets, for fun let's call them the The Zodiac Brave.

This list is important, because it gives us a place to start. I've got a feeling that somebody on this list is mafia, in fact 3 of them wouldn't be unreasonable. since these are the prime players in the game - if any of these players die during the Night it tightens the suspicion noose on the remaining ones. It also gives the medics a place to focus protections. Sure, the mafia could ignore this list and kill off other players but I'm sure they know letting any of these people live for too long is dangerous.

Now for the hard part - Detectives. I'm going to ask you to ignore these players. Literally, just don't even investigate them unless something like a major clue points to them, it's obvious something fishy is wrong with them, or you need to confirm their ID to speak with them about something critical. Focus your investigations on people not on the list.

Secondly, to the Town in general. Use this list as the start of your clue referencing. Clues are much easier to link when you already have a name in mind. Instead of looking through every profile and trying to match every little clue up - you've got this list of 12 names right here. After Night 1 goes away, the second set of clues + the first Day's clues should be enough to find something on someone listed.

Also, we have to decide who the Sheriff should lock up for the night. It has to be one of these 12. No matter what we try to do, the medics can't protect everyone and the Mafia will stack kills even with RoL dead to take out some vets. Whoever we lock up out of the vets, has to be plain green Towny. Sure they might have to role claim but we can't afford to lock up any critical blue roles on Night 1.

And last but not least - semioldguy. While lynching RoL was a good thing it says nothing about whether he is innocent or not. In fact, I think he's innocent but it doesn't matter. Do not send him any information. His innocence will be proven based on his actions during the game. Same goes for BC.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 13:49 GMT
#597
Also forgot to add this, since I'll be posting pretty much everything publicly this game.

semioldguy might be a Detective. I was informed he lightweight role-claimed earlier. That's not too bad, but if he really is a blue that ran for Mayor/Sheriff to get protected then that's very good and lucky for us. It's possible he clue checked RoL and caught him but didn't come out and say it for his own safety until he won the election - but that's a stretch.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 14:06 GMT
#598

1. Camlito
3. BloodyC0bbler
8. Lurker
9. ydg
13. Night[Mare
14. JeeJee
17. RebirthOfLeGenD
24. Snet
32. MrBabyHands
33. Centric
34. Kennigit
35. Icysoul
37. Versatile
38. blue_arrow
39. RaGe
43. Lucktar
46. Humbug
50. motbob
57. nemY
59. semioldguy
60. aZnvaLiaNce
64. Rice
65. JL13


This is BC's list of people that haven't voted.



Phrujbaz
0cz3c
Mista
Pika Chu
TruthBringer
TranceStorm
dreamflower
CynanMachae
ZaplinG
LucasWoJ
redtooth
ydg
MrBabyHands


This is the list of people that have voted for semioldguy. Of the 2 suspicious lists I'm more interested in the latter. The first list could be inactives and mafia, but the second list are all active posters. That means they have to have thought about their votes. However, with testimony from several players and semioldguy never even playing a game on the site before he somehow manages enough votes to snag a position. It's hard to tell if this is a bandwagon voting thing or mafia ploy. Regardless the only vet player sticking out on this list is Mr.BabyHands who voted for him probably because it didn't matter, or he'd rather have him in office than Pyrr. If we assume that veteran mafia would want mafia in office, we could also assume they'd have voted for Semi and we'd see more names from the 12 here. Good thing we won't use this assumption. Detectives this is probably the list you want to start role checking.

Of course the first list has a few vet names, but Versatile voted and so did MBH. Camlito has been oddly quiet so far and so has JL13. Both could be really inactive at the moment, but by Day 2 they'd have to show up. If not then it's good to start looking at clues pointing to them and make them higher priority than the other 12.

And of course, the most interesting list of all:


MrBabyHands - 7
Ace
Ver
Caller
Bockit
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Versatile
nemY


Almost all of them being players I'd listed under veterans. Of course I didn't list nemy, but like I told Ver in a PM exchange nemy is a pretty good player most of the time and he's dangerous because he's literally just too much in the shadows even though he posts. People just don't seem to notice him for some reason. He's just as dangerous as the other people.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2009 22:35 GMT
#643
I put Scaramanga on that list not solely because of intelligence, but because if a DT wanted to find someone he'd be one of the people they'd look to. Scaramanga seems to always find out info about something, so he must be doing something right. The list isn't suspect at all - those ar high target players. By identifying them early we have a zone from which to work with.


The rest of your post of course, is way off. I think most greens DO care about dying because you know - they want the town to win. When Mandalor comes out to defend himself we'll know the truth.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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