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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:28 Fishball wrote: OMFG you guys fucking suck  I JUST had the free time, since I was busy for the past 4 days, to read the entire thread, starting at page 7, which took me like an hour to catch up... Then BAM, the game ends. I was the last veteran... Boooo We guessed you were townie but we had no idea what role you had. We decided not to bother bombing you because you are you haha. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:20 Dyno. wrote: Granted, but claiming is only useful if you use it to organize the town with the information they get. If the game organizers saw people making assumptions on information they shouldn't know, they would be able to determine people were privately claiming. Additionally, I like to think that most people here have some ethics and if Chuiu banned privately claiming most wouldn't do it, and those who did would be ratted out by those who don't (in the spirit of having a good game). They can't tell. In BCs game when I was mafia, I lied and said Fakesteve and 2 other townies PM'd me their roles. Steve said he didn't so I publicly called out the roles - I really was lying but it just so happened I had 2 of the 3 right. How would the mods have known? x_x | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
I think that this shows we need to reflect and go over things more carefully before jumping the gun. We've had two flops now because of guaranteed innocents. They simply don't work and unfortunately this system has very large flaws even if there were no veterans. Namely that because all the roles are very weak (except PE which can use its power turn 1), the mafia no longer have to decide between killing blues and killing smart people. Now they can just kill off every smart person immediately with no consquences (medics can block this so it basically becomes a crapshoot) . This is something to avoid because a) it makes targeting braindead b) it turns the town into this slum of stupidity that everyone grimaces at within 2 days. I don't think we want to encourage smurfing. Also, potentially 5 votelists would have been far too strong even if they would've overlapped (any more than 1-2 votelists really screws the mafia, it's an extremely strong ability that should be severely restricted if included at all). Town/Mafia powers are kinda questionable (some of them were definitely too strong, while I think voting for a double lynch is a great idea that should be kept). I believe we are going to balance things out privately so hopefully we can have a great game next time! | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:34 Qatol wrote: We guessed you were townie but we had no idea what role you had. We decided not to bother bombing you because you are you haha. I edited my post you quoted a bit. I was actually "serious" this time  I really had no time since I'm dealing with some issues lately. I've already took a game off (Caller's game), and have discussed with BC a bit about the game. I was hoping for an all around good game this time, without the dead talking, people cheating, and packed with a bunch of inactives, which were the main factors that decided most of our previous TL Mafia games. It was just simply lame, for either side. I do confess I had a smirk on my face, when I was half way through the thread knowing that I was the last veteran and had the ability to "screw around". But damn, the game ended so quick... (in a bad way?) | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:35 Ver wrote: I believe we are going to balance things out privately so hopefully we can have a great game next time! I forgot which thread/blog it was, but I think I've mentioned a couple times that the experienced players/game hosts needs to come together and discuss the rules and roles in order to balance out things. I've also mentioned, which I believe in Caller's thread, that game hosts needs to restrain from adding "new elements" to the game without a well thought out refining process with the general consensus first. I just want to play a good game  | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On March 02 2009 13:50 zeks wrote: lol i just noticed that there is no green you are either blue or red so everyone has a special role I nearly saved you scum lol guess you guys had already claimed to dyno. before i could post this lol i was a medic  | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:47 Fishball wrote: I forgot which thread/blog it was, but I think I've mentioned a couple times that the experienced players/game hosts needs to come together and discuss the rules and roles in order to balance out things. I've also mentioned, which I believe in Caller's thread, that game hosts needs to restrain from adding "new elements" to the game without a well thought out refining process with the general consensus first. I just want to play a good game We did have a discussion. With little feedback, but it was a start. I personally didn't like the idea of giving everyone roles, but we were debating this and I felt it was useless to keep on arguing. Anyway, we experimented with it, and I think now we should move on. Double lynch as a town ability is a good alternative to Mayor. If more discussion will occur privately, I'd like to join. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:51 zeks wrote: I nearly saved you scum lol guess you guys had already claimed to dyno. before i could post this lol i was a medic Wow you are really good at getting medic roles. LTT and I were not happy when you made that post haha. However, it didn't really matter. We were only missing like 6 claims at that point and I think we still got another "townie" claim after that post. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:18 Chuiu wrote: Pyrrhuloxia, you didn't take into account that Raxor is very close to razor. EDIT: Lol, see Incognito got it. what does razor have to do with dont ask dont tell? | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On March 03 2009 13:31 dreamflower wrote: This has to be a record for quickest end to a game of Mafia. I believe I hold the record! In Callers game, I got the village idiot role, I role called Ace as mafia (blindly) claiming to be a Jack. Somehow with around 60+ roles, I role called the God Father, which effectively ended the game. It was before Day 1, I believe? Because Ace was lynched and just shouted about imba and how the game was fucked and his unbeatable plan. So he never got lynched, game just ended. This was still epic as fuck :D Edit: If anyone likes reading mafia, the thread is here pretty hilarious when you can look at the big picture. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On March 03 2009 15:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: what does razor have to do with dont ask dont tell? Don't ask don't tell was chuiu's comment about the clue. It wasn't actually related to the clue itself. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Even worse were the people who believed you too when it was obvious you were lying and we always go back to the "ok lets lynch the accused person!" | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 03 2009 15:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I believe I hold the record! In Callers game, I got the village idiot role, I role called Ace as mafia (blindly) claiming to be a Jack. Somehow with around 60+ roles, I role called the God Father, which effectively ended the game. It was before Day 1, I believe? Because Ace was lynched and just shouted about imba and how the game was fucked and his unbeatable plan. So he never got lynched, game just ended. This was still epic as fuck :D Edit: If anyone likes reading mafia, the thread is here pretty hilarious when you can look at the big picture. Just looked it up (aww took me a while to find should have waited for your link). Hilarious. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On March 03 2009 15:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I believe I hold the record! In Callers game, I got the village idiot role, I role called Ace as mafia (blindly) claiming to be a Jack. Somehow with around 60+ roles, I role called the God Father, which effectively ended the game. It was before Day 1, I believe? Because Ace was lynched and just shouted about imba and how the game was fucked and his unbeatable plan. So he never got lynched, game just ended. This was still epic as fuck :D Edit: If anyone likes reading mafia, the thread is here pretty hilarious when you can look at the big picture. Dunno, my favorite moment is still here (Opz getting banned for double posting a lot) | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
i have been medic the most recent 3 (including Caller's first one) =) | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On March 03 2009 15:14 Ace wrote: lol I called out that the game was imbalanced for the town even before I got my role and then when I got it I was like :/ Even worse were the people who believed you too when it was obvious you were lying and we always go back to the "ok lets lynch the accused person!" haha we had like 3 pages of disagreement, it apparently wasn't THAT obvious I was lying :D I think the only thing that almost ruined my credibility was RCing DT first when I knew I had the potential to be insane. I should of went strait into the Jack role call. I still hate the insane concept >.<; a bunch of mafia vets should get on IRC and talk out a set up for the next mafia game, I was too lazy to read the thread. Especially when people had epic long posts I disagreed with, and didn't feel like debating point for point or reading the entirety of. Anyone up for a TL Mafia IRC channel to talk it over? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On March 03 2009 15:34 Qatol wrote: Dunno, my favorite moment is still here (Opz getting banned for double posting a lot) Personally, I think my favorite moment was in the one I linked, where some guy started posting under the name "RealJack" claiming I was lying, and everyone was like "MAFIA PLOY!!" and I was sitting there laughing my ass off. the opz ban was also hilarious, I remmeber reading it as it was happening. Plexa warned him and he was reading the thread from like 10 pages back, quoting and posting from 10 pages earlier and lined up like 6 posts in a row and Plexa was like THAT'S IT, TAKE A WEEK BREAK, LEARN TO POST MERGE hilarity. That was Mafia 3, right? | ||
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