TL Mafia 4 - Page 2

On March 01 2009 01:58 Naib wrote:


That arises a question, though. I understand how you can prove to Dyno (if he's innocent) that you're a paramedic, and veteran, but what about the other roles?

Here's what I thought (for detectives, as they haven't been discussed yet). Most likely mafia will try to impose as a detective, I think it's inevitable (they see how we weeded out the chances for veteran / paramedic, but maybe they'll try smth. there too, who knows). Anyway: if anyone claims that he has found a clue that links to a specific person, it'll be up to Dyno to trust him or not.

If I were Dyno, I would accept a claim PM-ed to him because: if the PMer is a detective, the PM isn't forged, and we'll get a mafia member. If the PM is forged then we'll have a sure mafia even after we lynch an innocent person first. I would advise this as the path to take, after Dyno's proven to be a vet.

Obviously, he should be proceeding caotiously until any detective catches (or claims to catch) a culprit. Most likely mafia will try to pose as a detective that simply can't find anything.

Another, costly way to confirm detectives is to send them on missions, and lynch the target (regardless of being red or green). That takes a day of lynches (or half a double) just to confirm a detective's innocence, though. I wouldn't recommend this, waste of lives and time too.

And anyway, detectives are deemed to get clues right once in a while, so we don't need the above paragraph. Just don't trust anyone with information as long as they only tell you "I checked X and he was innocent"

Thoughts?

P.s.: I'm going out now, will read stuff when I got back. Laters.

On March 01 2009 02:58 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I mean how am I supposed to believe you?

On March 01 2009 03:06 Qatol wrote:


I still argue that it is better to sanctuary the medics because it turns Dyno into a figurehead that the medics can all protect. If we are going to use sanctuary -> vet, ALL of the vets had better voteclaim to Dyno and then use their vet votes on random people so Dyno has a confirmed circle to start with. If it looks like sanctuary veteran is the call, I will gladly change my vote to that.

On March 01 2009 03:06 Scooter wrote:

if we vote for Sanctuary day 1 it won't kick in until night 2




edit: changed my vote from Sanc Para to Sanc Vet

On March 01 2009 03:14 Qatol wrote:


I argue that we don't roleclaim them publicly. Instead veterans should PM their veteran vote to Dyno and he can spread the IDs of the vets to each other once the vets are confirmed

On March 01 2009 03:43 triflejack wrote:
Since we have to lynch someone without justification anyway, let's just find a Bisu fanboy and kick them out

On March 01 2009 04:56 zeks wrote:
I vote for interinept and Sanctuary - Medic

a more viable plan:
vets use voting power
medics protect each vet
medics are protected by sanctuary

On March 01 2009 05:17 3clipse wrote:
I vote for inertinept (obviously).

And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this idea with Dyno make it awfully easy for the Mafia to get moles in posing as Vets?

On March 01 2009 06:00 fusionsdf wrote:
I missed some pages

how did we confirm dyno is a vet?

On March 01 2009 07:32 fusionsdf wrote:


They can pretend to be medics or detectives though can't they?

On March 01 2009 08:22 Caller wrote:
I still don't know about inertinept.

I abstain.

On March 01 2009 03:31 inertinept wrote:
yup I will confirm that I am mafia. I looked through the day one clues, and there is like 400 red herrings. mafia has absolutely no chance of winning, but good luck.

please make the clues better next time, lmao.

On March 01 2009 14:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Here are more of my thoughts because I am apparenty being silent only posting 12 times a day.

We've already got inertinept and now I think triflejack is pretty suspicious. He's got 12 posts and is thus very likely a smurf (I dunno how to find the few posts outside of this thread)

Signing up:

"I shall play this game. Sign me please"

After accusations of smurfing occurs:

"I'm guessing these guys are smurfs. Damn them." (How could someone who at this point has about 2 posts and yet know what smurfing means and know who the missing regulars are not be a smurf?)

After PMs go out:

I got my role! MAFIA
(Who would want to create drama by jokingly calling themselves mafia other than mafia? Any non mafia would worry about sowing false fears about them and distracting the town. A mafia would probably be trying reverse psychology by appearing to appear secure in their innocence.)

Well after we started lynching inertinept and calling sanctuary on veterans he says:

"Since we have to lynch someone without justification anyway, let's just find a Bisu fanboy and kick them out"

Another joke post:

"Can we torture inertinept or threaten his family before he dies so we get the other mafia names? This straight-to-lynching thing seems inefficient to me"

Then he votes without supporting sanctuary:

"I vote inertinept"

LTT said: "I think he believes that the clue that caught him wasn't actually pointing to him, which is why he was upset."

Dunno why LTT would say this but if that's true, trifles are rather benign. Triflejack had nothing in his profile and no posts and thus if he was mafia all that could be used for clues for him is his name. Note that being a smurf doesn't make him more likely to be mafia, but this guy is pretty suspicious for reasons other than that. Also if anyone thinks I'm strangely silent I have more posts in this thread than this guy has in his entire TL career. Also if anyone was in the game where I was mafia you would remember that I was talkative as fuck when I was mafia, if I'm less talkative now it's because I have more friends and more of a life now (went to a concert tonight, got a party for Bisu vs Jaedong that I'm going to later, gotta drive my friend to an ice rink in a few hours).