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LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 16:37 GMT
#265
He will be confirmed tonight when Chuiu does the first vote count.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 17:00 GMT
#271
On March 01 2009 01:58 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 01:35 LTT wrote:
On March 01 2009 01:34 redtooth wrote:
On March 01 2009 01:28 ahswtini wrote:
I think the most solid lead we have today is inertinept, detectives follow up on other clues (such as the sharp reference).

inertinept is essentially a dead man walking (unless people continue to not vote). Like BWdero stated we don't need to waste a check on him. Go ahead and check me (redtooth) and blue_arrow. Its better to just blindly throw out a cluecheck than it is to just let it waste and go to the next night.

I'm holding off on voting for inertinept because I want to hear an argument. Will probably end up voting for him anyways but just wanted his two cents in it before we kill him off.

By the way, what do you guys think of my little plan to prevent detectives from checking the same person?


It's Moot. Once Dyno is confirmed, he can coordinate Detective checks to prevent overlap.


That arises a question, though. I understand how you can prove to Dyno (if he's innocent) that you're a paramedic, and veteran, but what about the other roles?

Here's what I thought (for detectives, as they haven't been discussed yet). Most likely mafia will try to impose as a detective, I think it's inevitable (they see how we weeded out the chances for veteran / paramedic, but maybe they'll try smth. there too, who knows). Anyway: if anyone claims that he has found a clue that links to a specific person, it'll be up to Dyno to trust him or not.

If I were Dyno, I would accept a claim PM-ed to him because: if the PMer is a detective, the PM isn't forged, and we'll get a mafia member. If the PM is forged then we'll have a sure mafia even after we lynch an innocent person first. I would advise this as the path to take, after Dyno's proven to be a vet.

Obviously, he should be proceeding caotiously until any detective catches (or claims to catch) a culprit. Most likely mafia will try to pose as a detective that simply can't find anything.

Another, costly way to confirm detectives is to send them on missions, and lynch the target (regardless of being red or green). That takes a day of lynches (or half a double) just to confirm a detective's innocence, though. I wouldn't recommend this, waste of lives and time too.

And anyway, detectives are deemed to get clues right once in a while, so we don't need the above paragraph. Just don't trust anyone with information as long as they only tell you "I checked X and he was innocent"

Thoughts?

P.s.: I'm going out now, will read stuff when I got back. Laters.


There are lots of way to root out fake roleclaims. These aren't the best things to post publically, though. Once Dyno is confirmed, I'll share my thoughts.

It isn't a big deal though. Dyno should be suspicious of everyone except for confirmed veterans. He can slowly build from there and give directions to all of the blues whether they are confirmed or not.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 17:46:34
February 28 2009 17:45 GMT
#288
Dyno. is confirmed. Everyone PM him your role.

Make sure you PM Dyno. There is a period after his name. If you aren't sure, use the link on the first mafia page.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 18:02 GMT
#300
On March 01 2009 02:58 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I mean how am I supposed to believe you?


Dyno. is a veteran and used his extra ability to vote for Blue_arrow. Because Chuiu's vote check confirms that a vetaran used his ability to vote, it confirms that Dyno. is a veteran 100%.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 18:05 GMT
#304
I vote for Inertinept and Sanctuary Veteran
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 18:07 GMT
#310
On March 01 2009 03:06 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 03:01 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Is it a good idea then to sanctuary -> veteran?

The good: Dyno. is protected for night, giving us Night 1 + Day 2 to coordinate. Especially with many players in different time zone this is nice. Also medics will not have to worry about overlapping protection on him since he has been sanctuary'd. Other option is to sanctuary -> medic, which will leave mafia if they hit a vet (not dyno) or a medic confused - i think the odds are not too great here, they only have 5 hits right?

The Bad: We don't get another ability until NIght 2/day 3 depending what we pick.

I say go for it to sanctuary -> vet, we gotta get 31 votes though and right now Qatol is on Sanctuary: Paramedic. Let's get a consensus here.

I vote inertinept
btw


I still argue that it is better to sanctuary the medics because it turns Dyno into a figurehead that the medics can all protect. If we are going to use sanctuary -> vet, ALL of the vets had better voteclaim to Dyno and then use their vet votes on random people so Dyno has a confirmed circle to start with. If it looks like sanctuary veteran is the call, I will gladly change my vote to that.


That is the plan regarding the Veterans confirming themselves. Might as well protect them while they are vulnerable.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 18:09 GMT
#313
On March 01 2009 03:06 Scooter wrote:

if we vote for Sanctuary day 1 it won't kick in until night 2




edit: changed my vote from Sanc Para to Sanc Vet


Sanctuary says the following night, which means the night following the vote. Dyno. will be protected tonight.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 18:17:30
February 28 2009 18:15 GMT
#322
On March 01 2009 03:14 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 03:11 Scooter wrote:
my bad, thanks for clearing that up.

To follow up on what Qatol said, are we gonna roleclaim all our veterans? It would be nice to have a list of safe people, but the more veterans that make themselves known the more we have to spread the paramedics around.


I argue that we don't roleclaim them publicly. Instead veterans should PM their veteran vote to Dyno and he can spread the IDs of the vets to each other once the vets are confirmed


Yes. That was the plan. Let me repost it:

1.) One vet roleclaims and uses their ability. Done
2.) Once confirmed via Chuiu's vote count, everyone PMs him their roles. Confirmed
3.) Other Vets can confirm to him that they are vets by using their voting power. We now have all veterans confirmed but only 1 public.
4.) They coordinate medic protection.
5.) If the original vet dies, the other vets can use a mouthpiece. One vet should use a person who PMed the role of townie to speak in the thread. Do not reveal anything to that townie. If the Vet dies, the other vets immediately know that the townie was mafia.

Again, everyone PM your role to Dyno.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 18:44 GMT
#339
On March 01 2009 03:43 triflejack wrote:
Since we have to lynch someone without justification anyway, let's just find a Bisu fanboy and kick them out


Umm. We already had someone admit to being mafia there buddy...
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 19:59 GMT
#358
On March 01 2009 04:56 zeks wrote:
I vote for interinept and Sanctuary - Medic

a more viable plan:
vets use voting power
medics protect each vet
medics are protected by sanctuary


And what happens when Dyno is dogpiled on Day 2? No sanctuary to protect and medics don't have their ability anymore?
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 20:19:39
February 28 2009 20:19 GMT
#361
Just a reminder in case anyone hasn't read everything:

PM Your role to Dyno. (Note there is a period at the end of his name. Use the link to his profile in the first post of this thread if you aren't sure)

He is 100% confirmed to be a veteran. He is going to be spearheading our organization and leading us to victory!

Even if you are just a Townie, be sure to PM Dyno. anyway. Every bit of information helps.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 20:20 GMT
#363
On March 01 2009 05:17 3clipse wrote:
I vote for inertinept (obviously).

And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this idea with Dyno make it awfully easy for the Mafia to get moles in posing as Vets?


No. They cannot pose as vets. Every vet will be confirmed today by using their vote ability The same way we confirmed Dyno, they will confirm themselves to Dyno and start the circle. Any mafia that tries to pretend to be a vet is an instant free lynch.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 21:00 GMT
#367
He said there were 400 red herrings, as in clues that weren't really clues. I think he believes that the clue that caught him wasn't actually pointing to him, which is why he was upset. It doesn't matter much anyways at this point.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 21:01:46
February 28 2009 21:01 GMT
#368
On March 01 2009 06:00 fusionsdf wrote:
I missed some pages

how did we confirm dyno is a vet?


Dyno said he was going to use his veteran vote power on blue_arrow. Chuiu then did a vote count and blue_arrow had a veteran vote. 100% confirmed.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88236&currentpage=15#285
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
February 28 2009 22:36 GMT
#380
On March 01 2009 07:32 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 05:20 LTT wrote:
On March 01 2009 05:17 3clipse wrote:
I vote for inertinept (obviously).

And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this idea with Dyno make it awfully easy for the Mafia to get moles in posing as Vets?


No. They cannot pose as vets. Every vet will be confirmed today by using their vote ability The same way we confirmed Dyno, they will confirm themselves to Dyno and start the circle. Any mafia that tries to pretend to be a vet is an instant free lynch.


They can pretend to be medics or detectives though can't they?


Indeed. They pretty much have to pretend to be something or just not send in a PM. There are good ways to deal with both.



PM Your role to Dyno. (Note there is a period at the end of his name. Use the link to his profile in the first post of this thread if you aren't sure)

He is 100% confirmed to be a veteran. He is going to be spearheading our organization and leading us to victory!

Even if you are just a Townie, be sure to PM Dyno. anyway. Every bit of information helps.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 23:31:06
February 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#390
On March 01 2009 08:22 Caller wrote:
I still don't know about inertinept.

I abstain.


On March 01 2009 03:31 inertinept wrote:
yup I will confirm that I am mafia. I looked through the day one clues, and there is like 400 red herrings. mafia has absolutely no chance of winning, but good luck.

please make the clues better next time, lmao.



Yeah man. That is like completely arbitrary.

Reminder
PM Your role to Dyno. (Note there is a period at the end of his name. Use the link to his profile in the first post of this thread if you aren't sure)

He is 100% confirmed to be a veteran. He is going to be spearheading our organization and leading us to victory!

Even if you are just a Townie, be sure to PM Dyno. anyway. Every bit of information helps.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
March 01 2009 04:27 GMT
#440
The following is the list of those who have not sent their role:

malongo
inertinept
Ra.Xor.2
aZnvaLiaNce
Fishball
motbob
RebirthOfLeGenD
Pyrrhuloxia
triflejack
pandabearguy
HeRoS)Pink
lakrismamma
Phrujbaz
fearus
Teejing
chaoser
CynanMachae
MasterOfChaos
Night[Mare
ulszz
Athos
d_so
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
March 01 2009 04:47 GMT
#443
You are right. My mistake. You were the last one to take out and I seem to have missed you.

Updated:

inertinept
Ra.Xor.2
aZnvaLiaNce
Fishball
motbob
RebirthOfLeGenD
Pyrrhuloxia
triflejack
pandabearguy
HeRoS)Pink
lakrismamma
Phrujbaz
fearus
Teejing
chaoser
CynanMachae
MasterOfChaos
Night[Mare
ulszz
Athos
d_so
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
March 01 2009 04:53 GMT
#445
More interesting list-

The following have posted in the thread since Dyno was confirmed but have not sent their roles. Can't claim inactivity here. Many of them even voted.

Night[Mare
inertinept - lolconfession
triflejack
d_so
Teejing
aZnvaLiaNce
Ra.Xor.2
Pyrrhuloxia
HeRoS)Pink
pandabearguy
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 05:29:28
March 01 2009 05:28 GMT
#456
On March 01 2009 14:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Here are more of my thoughts because I am apparenty being silent only posting 12 times a day.

We've already got inertinept and now I think triflejack is pretty suspicious. He's got 12 posts and is thus very likely a smurf (I dunno how to find the few posts outside of this thread)

Signing up:

"I shall play this game. Sign me please"

After accusations of smurfing occurs:

"I'm guessing these guys are smurfs. Damn them." (How could someone who at this point has about 2 posts and yet know what smurfing means and know who the missing regulars are not be a smurf?)

After PMs go out:

I got my role! MAFIA
(Who would want to create drama by jokingly calling themselves mafia other than mafia? Any non mafia would worry about sowing false fears about them and distracting the town. A mafia would probably be trying reverse psychology by appearing to appear secure in their innocence.)

Well after we started lynching inertinept and calling sanctuary on veterans he says:

"Since we have to lynch someone without justification anyway, let's just find a Bisu fanboy and kick them out"

Another joke post:

"Can we torture inertinept or threaten his family before he dies so we get the other mafia names? This straight-to-lynching thing seems inefficient to me"

Then he votes without supporting sanctuary:

"I vote inertinept"

LTT said: "I think he believes that the clue that caught him wasn't actually pointing to him, which is why he was upset."

Dunno why LTT would say this but if that's true, trifles are rather benign. Triflejack had nothing in his profile and no posts and thus if he was mafia all that could be used for clues for him is his name. Note that being a smurf doesn't make him more likely to be mafia, but this guy is pretty suspicious for reasons other than that. Also if anyone thinks I'm strangely silent I have more posts in this thread than this guy has in his entire TL career. Also if anyone was in the game where I was mafia you would remember that I was talkative as fuck when I was mafia, if I'm less talkative now it's because I have more friends and more of a life now (went to a concert tonight, got a party for Bisu vs Jaedong that I'm going to later, gotta drive my friend to an ice rink in a few hours).


We were talking about Inertinepts confession post. Inertinept was angry at the 400 red herrings in the post implying that the benign man clue doesn't actually point to him.

I agree that trifle is fishy.

Regarding your PM claims, Dyno appears to be afk at the moment, so it might be a bit until you are cleared either way. Just sit tight.

Edit: Clarity.
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