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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2008 06:05 GMT
#881
Emp what r u talking about
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2008 06:06 GMT
#882
On November 04 2008 15:04 Chezinu wrote:
Ace, what would you last as your last meal? Coffee?


I see what you did there
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 04 2008 06:06 GMT
#883
On November 04 2008 15:04 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2008 14:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 04 2008 14:49 clazziquai wrote:
Ace prove me that you are innocent.

Folca has done enough and he IS a detective.


Was a detective, and pretty well no way he can prove he's innocent, so up to the gallows he goes.

As a general note to the other two detectives, and for the jacks, please list check the ace and folca lists

I believe there are two of each role atm, so i would ask D1 and D2(detective numbers as where they appear in the list first one being D1 and the other D2) check the folca list and the jacks J1 and J2 check out the ace list.

With that information, gathered, either choose myself or caller if you trust either of us and give us that info, preferably both Jacks and both detectives to the same person, it helps prove who you are as you would have a list identical to eachother to prove your validiaty.


And if either of you are mafia?
We don't want any info getting to the mafia, especially about who is a detective.



All comes down to trust, i am far to well aware, It is basically up to people to decide if they want to do such a thing. I am saying im trustworthy and not a mafia, and volunteering for a position that will most likely get me killed tonight to prevent it from happening. Folca died to pin ace, and now we need a way to use our remaining DT's well, or if nothing else, in contact with one another.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 04 2008 06:07 GMT
#884
Ace, Folca was detective and he said himself that YOU were mafia. I don't care if he pointed that 5 people were suspects when you are the prime one.

Also since now we know that Folca was legit everything he said was the truth. Oh well, I guess you can keep trying to defend yourself.

Resistance is futile.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 06:09:23
November 04 2008 06:08 GMT
#885
@ BloodyCobbler, Don't try and draw the detectives into the open. If you're mafia, at least try to hide it somewhat.

Honestly, to best utilize them, we should just suggest things for them to do, hope they read the thread and follow suggestions, then if anything major comes up, have them sacrifice themselves and use paramedics on them later if necessary (paramedic problem again...read my previous post).
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MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
November 04 2008 06:09 GMT
#886
Events move forward, then, and the town maintains active tempo. Once the morning comes, you guys can decide if you still think I'm overwhelmingly guilty, in which case you can waste a vigi hit on me. On the other hand, it's much more likely that coherent clues will come up, and the town'll realize the people who initially voted for Folca were doing so at his behest and for the purposes of the town's expediency.

And of course, Ace dies.
Trust in Bayes.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2008 06:10 GMT
#887
ok a couple of things:

1.) Clazz everything Folca said isn't true because he only did 1 investigation. Just because someone is a DT doesn't mean they know everything. You fail. But go ahead and lynch everyone he named.

2.) Emp stop trying.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 04 2008 06:12 GMT
#888
i'm almost 99% sure you are mafia.

On November 03 2008 12:28 Folca wrote:
Ok, just asked Chuiu if this was possible, and its not against the rules, so here it fucking goes
Im a detective, now dont stop reading this shit
I just pmed chuiu my ability to see of Ace is the mafia
Answer : Yes
Now, Im not ganna keep this hiding, because Ace is a huge influence in this game, and im not ganna risk getting lynched by next morning to spit out the information
Yes Ace could actually help the townies by targetting mafias, but im not ganna risk my death by next morning, so here it goes
Now just like Ace said, I'll prove myself by sacraficing myself to see that im the detective
If I am detective like I said, Take out Ace Townies, Special Roles, good luck killing the rest of the mafia


Folca even said so. Why would he lie about that? That would be stupid on his part. One rolecheck was enough to find out the truth
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 04 2008 06:13 GMT
#889
On November 04 2008 15:08 Empyrean wrote:
Don't try and draw the detectives into the open. If you're mafia, at least try to hide it somewhat.

Honestly, to best utilize them, we should just suggest things for them to do, hope they read the thread and follow suggestions, then if anything major comes up, have them sacrifice themselves and use paramedics on them later if necessary (paramedic problem again...read my previous post).



Vote checking the folca and ace lists are what they need to do, and if they stay quiet, they need to continue doing this constantly, building up a list and narrowing it down. Same with the jacks to an extent.

Once theyr eally narrow it down they can rolecheck a player and see if its mafia or not, then link that person to who they were bandwagoning with the most, or who "swayed their vote" or who they defend and so on.

They can do alot yes in secret, but if they can get together, they dont waste say a rolecheck on the same person, and are able to work more effectively. Honestly i would prefer only the DT's and Jacks knowing who each other are, and have the 4 of them work as an investigation unit, but it is wishful thinking.

The issue comes into play, How do they present their findings later on without getting killed, as if we dont lynch the suicide bomber quickly, the DT's will die at night if they release their findings, and any medics who protect them will die to the bomber as well.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 06:15:57
November 04 2008 06:15 GMT
#890
And how would you propose the DTs get together? By having someone investigate someone, find he's a townie, and having that townie speak up? Yeah, mafia can roleclaim that townie role as well.

You might as well have two different townies, one for each remaining DT, and have them be rolechecked and be the voice of the DTs.

EDIT: I'm going to sleep now. I'll catch up on this in the morning.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 04 2008 06:18 GMT
#891
that could work as well, yes.

Only issue is proving validity of the lists, hense why id want both dts sending it to one central person, but i do see the issue with it a) that person dies right off and nothing is gained or b)is a mafia and has them killed.

I am aware of the risks, at the same time, I don't want wasted role checks on one person and say they turn up blue or green, they get killed at night. I will try to flesh out a much more concrete way if i can of how to get people together at a low risk situation, if possible, I might not be able to do so, but i shall deff try.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 06:25:49
November 04 2008 06:25 GMT
#892
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Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 04 2008 07:05 GMT
#893
Day one Clue analysis

a) Last Meal theme
b)Pleading for life theme
c)"Embrace the release that death brings you"
d)Vengence theme
e)“We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town."

Suspects for a)
Decafchicken fits it by mentioning subway in his profile, as well as his obvious name attachment
Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile
Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile
Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake
Bockit mentions the word vegetable in his profile
KH1031 – thanksgiving mentioned in profile which is a complete meal
Fantacist dog eating quote in his profile

suspects for b)
Lenwe – really really fucking stretched here, but his comic in his profile, is like a plead for his gf or other half in life to not leave, hence in a way pleading for his life to stay the same.

Suspects for c)
Plexa – quote says ones spirit will set you free, ie embrace your death
Aznvaliance for his quote in profile saying the loser or dead man is set free


Suspects for d)
Bockit – multiplish war quotes, one directly related to ww2’s nuke attack on japan, which was done as a retaliation for pearl harbor or otherwards done for revenge


Suspects for e)
Fakesteve – mod/list of mods loving his fanclub, quote advocates we don’t trust people of power
Midnight Gladius – quote lists a general in his profile, generals are usually well trusted. This general is also advocating change which would relate to not wanting a mayor
Ace – Ace was trusted as a leader last game as he was the mayor, slim link but still there



Also as a seperate clue for ace, he was fingered by our now dead detective, who said he rolechecked him.



Also feel free to agree/destroy my quickly done up compilation above, i will be working on it more, but that is my initial list of people connected via day ones shady clues
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 04 2008 07:21 GMT
#894
You guys that voted for Folca suck.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 04 2008 07:25 GMT
#895
On November 04 2008 16:21 ShadowDrgn wrote:
You guys that voted for Folca suck.


It was something thought of earlier before Folca stood up, and he planned to die to the town to prove his innocense to take out ace.

In a case of DT for a mafia is normally a bad trade but ace holds allllot of credibility normally, and well this is getting rid of a voice that could sway the town easily.

The plan was as soon as this happened to purely vote for folca and ace, and have the remaining dt's votecheck the lists.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 04 2008 07:59 GMT
#896
I realize it was thought of earlier, but Folca also knew that. Having the plan in place did its job without having to follow through with lynching him over Ace. Oh well, this should still end well for us.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
November 04 2008 08:19 GMT
#897

Folca - 18
Ace
MidnightGladius
RtS)Night[Mare
BloodyC0bbler
Camlito
MTF
[GiTM]-Ace
aZnvaLiaNce
Mandalor
bumatlarge
Bockit
nemY
fusionsdf
decafchicken
wurm
Amber[LighT]
Jimtudor
Empyrean

AHHH FUCK YOU kids... congrats of losing one of the best roles in this game

vigis killlllll Ace please, next night of course
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 04 2008 08:26 GMT
#898
On November 04 2008 17:19 araav wrote:
Show nested quote +

Folca - 18
Ace
MidnightGladius
RtS)Night[Mare
BloodyC0bbler
Camlito
MTF
[GiTM]-Ace
aZnvaLiaNce
Mandalor
bumatlarge
Bockit
nemY
fusionsdf
decafchicken
wurm
Amber[LighT]
Jimtudor
Empyrean

AHHH FUCK YOU kids... congrats of losing one of the best roles in this game

vigis killlllll Ace please, next night of course


stfu? i was following the dt check each list thing.
sAviOr...
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 04 2008 08:29 GMT
#899
On November 04 2008 17:19 araav wrote:
Show nested quote +

Folca - 18
Ace
MidnightGladius
RtS)Night[Mare
BloodyC0bbler
Camlito
MTF
[GiTM]-Ace
aZnvaLiaNce
Mandalor
bumatlarge
Bockit
nemY
fusionsdf
decafchicken
wurm
Amber[LighT]
Jimtudor
Empyrean

AHHH FUCK YOU kids... congrats of losing one of the best roles in this game

vigis killlllll Ace please, next night of course

It's more Folca's fault than anyone else's, honestly. DTs need to play smarter than that.
Peace~
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 04 2008 08:30 GMT
#900
well we said if folca was blue we would auto vote ace not sure why people want to change that now. I really don't know if decaf is supsect since ace wanted him saved. I really just think ace wanted us to lynch a dt
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
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