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On March 13 2008 15:50 fusionsdf wrote:
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On March 13 2008 15:48 qrs wrote:
On March 13 2008 15:20 fusionsdf wrote:
On March 13 2008 15:14 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
On March 13 2008 15:05 GeneralStan wrote:
On March 13 2008 15:04 fusionsdf wrote:
Note: I will be running for mayor regardless of my assignment later on.
By announcing it right now, choosing me is less likely to end up with a mafia mayor than someone who runs for mayor after roles are assigned.
VOTE FOR ME(When the time comes)
This is the most nonsensical argument I've ever heard
because mafia will want to be mayor obviously.
so if 1/7 people are mafia, right now, by electing me when my behavior is both known and independant of role, there would be 6/7 chance that Im a townie.
After the roles are assigned and mafia start gunning for office, it much more likely that a candidate will be from the mafia.
You're assuming that a higher percentage of Mafia than of townies will run for mayor, which is not necessarily true, and wasn't, in the last game.
its a smart mafia strategy.....mayor is an extremely valuable position for a mafioso to hold
I don't expect them to dodge it twice
hell w/ fakesteve as mayor they dont even need it he lynched what 4 townies and even got himself killed just as good of job as any of them woulda done
On March 14 2008 04:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Lol...I feel people should be required a signature...and a picture in profile, and maybe one on the TL.net gallery too...I like the gallery...
Also, I feel activity should be confirmed like...once every 2 days before we start the game, BECAUSE...we may already have some inactives on the list...
well really if you get rid of the inactives townies the higher the chance that you personally will be killed, but perhaps inactvies blues/reds can switch to other active ppl
On March 15 2008 07:16 fusionsdf wrote:
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On March 15 2008 00:33 Falcynn wrote:
On March 15 2008 00:25 nemY wrote:You're breaking my balls man.
On March 15 2008 00:17 Falcynn wrote:
On March 14 2008 22:03 BWdero wrote:Just make sure you're active >.>
Yes a new mafia game, and i'm in this time! This is gonna do wonders for my post count.
Edit: and reading all of the new posts...how the hell are you guys accusing people of being mafia now? With the people who have already declared their candidacy, yes there's a good chance all of them will be chosen as mafia, but there's just as good a chance that all will be townies...It's all luck at this point, no matter how shady someone might be acting. Obviously the mafia would like one of their own as mayor, but if you take the fact that mafia still kicked our ass last game and the fact that even Chuiu himself (I"m pretty sure it was Chuiu, could've been Dapperdan) said that in all his games he's never seen a mafia mayor. Then you can see that's it's stupid to start listing people who could be mafia, especially before the game starts, just because they're running for mayor.
Guys... lynch this mofo. He makes too much sense!!!
Edit: Also just a random thought, wouldn't it technically be advantageous for mafia to not even try to run for mayor? I mean it seems like everyone here assumes that at least one person who runs for mayor HAS to be mafia. So if the mafia don't even bother to put a candidate up, then later in the game all those towny candidates will essentially end up being scapegoats for the lynchings.
All I'm trying to say basically, is when we start lynching people...please come up with a better reasoning than "Well he ran for mayor and at least one of the candidates has to be mafia", because anyways...mayor seems to be useless to mafia. Besides the first lynching (which a towny mayor will probably get wrong anyways) the only powers the mayor has is his extra votes, which are pretty much useless if the town is even half decent (and if town sucks...then they REALLY don't need a mayor). As for the double lynching...well a mafia mayor would have to use his double lynchings in respect to the town's wishes anyways or risk being suspected as mafia. So in reality it seems that the wild goose chase that would ensue from not running for mafia would be more beneficial to them than the mayor or pardoner position would.
I say the pardoner position is useless to mafia because then if he decides to pardon a fellow mafia without giving good reason then that guy will probably just be taken out by a vigilante at night. Afterwards the pardoner would be lynched by day giving the town two guaranteed mafia kills.
mafia did that last game, and I highly doubt they would do it again for a couple reasons
1) there are more people, so its harder to figure out who the mafia candidate would be if they exist. Because of this, we have absolutely no idea if mafia runs a candidate or not, which means no real risk for mafia running. We just wont know if its happening or not, so they might as well take advantage of that. Getting us to lynch an innocent mayor is probably fun, but has less advantage for them than just securing the spot in the first place, since even a mistrusted townie mayor still gets a free lynch and can still declare double lynch which obviously benefits the town.
2)Again, because of the numbers and the nature of mob mentality, mafia would only have to risk a very small number of votes to tip the vote to their candidate. This assumes they have a candidate. Obviously, since we cant tell if mafia even brought a candidate (which would be the smart choice) or if they were successful in swinging the vote, we cant exactly start suspecting the mayor because of voting patterns.
You are basically dealing with signal vs noise. Townies have no unified information, and act basically as a mob.(emotional contagion, herd theory, etc.) Because the mafia are unified and coherent (signal) they can greatly sway the vote. Basically once a few votes start going to a candidate, more votes will follow.
Once they get a mafia mayor, he can be subtle to try and mislead the town, or he can simply say screw you guys I'm mafia. Trading one day's lynch and preventing future double lynches still benefits the mafia. (Not that he should, but I'm just trying to show that mafia mayor benefits mafia in every case, even if he gets lynched)
3) There are huge benefits to being mayor. Preventing double lynch is huge, so is the election day lynch. Mafia mayor makes the bodyguards pretty much useless, especially if the pardoner is mafia/lynched.
The mayor is really a super detective. They can be obvious about their suspicions without fearing death. So its best not to waste that position on either mafia or people who aren't good at clues/willing to spend a ton of time deciphering clues, making lists, researching etc.
A mafia mayor really plays a denial role to one of only two hit-proof roles.
imo potentially sacrificing x1 mafia for a chance to become mayor is worth it, besides i doubt it would give them away as everyone wants to be mayor, they prolly should just pick the most popular amongst them and they got a guaranteed 20 votes + the townies i say if they want it enough the mafioso can become mayor..........oso
EDIT: he could also potentially hold is double lynches and make up reasons as to why not use them for a more oportune time, perhaps even have mafia come up w/ fake theories/support for certain people
On March 18 2008 16:09 SonuvBob wrote:
Ah what the hell,
I'm announcing my candidacy for mayor.
My platform: Being less of a douche than Steve was.
bah screw it why not
I would like to run for mayor KUJA900 is the name
My Platform: To be more of a douch than Fakesteve could even comprehend!!!!!!
nah not really but if you smiled at this even remotely gimme your vote
-doubt you did but still *puppy dog eyes* vote for lil ol me
but in all seriousness yal prolly dont know me but i have reasons why you should pick me
1. see bolded text above
2. Im on the boards quite often and can promise you that i will read through your comments and suggestions for double lynching.
3. if you play dopewars ive recently discovered the secret to ultimate power il share it with you in pm if i win election ^_^.
4. I promise to thorougly analyse all clues and state my opinions for you all to see.
5. I cant be any worse then that Fakesteve and he won last time
So vote for me i may not be a bigshot mod or have an amazingly high post count but im a liquidian like all of you im from the simple folk not them big tall hat wearin 3k post guys and mods so if you want someone who knows your pain and understands your cries vote for me for mayor of liquidia.
btw thats not to say i wont take you high post count/mod votes if your one of those pls ignore the paragraph above and stick with the 5 contingents lol
On April 13 2008 08:59 Ace wrote:
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On April 13 2008 08:32 Kuja900 wrote:
ace you are in trouble only 2/6 bodyguards left
I'm only in trouble if both of them die
just saying they getn really lucky w/ the bodyguard kills
On June 01 2008 04:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
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On June 01 2008 04:32 SoleSteeler wrote:
honestly it doesnt matter that we lost ace, town has it won at this point in the game
judging by ratio things are bout even but judging by the kills, the fact every blue cept vets are dead and mayor and the key problem solvers im giving advantage mafia cause holy shit they turned up the gas these past few days
On August 02 2008 13:32 Chuiu wrote:
Wearing a cruel grin the last mafia rampaged through Kuja900's house making as much noise as he could. Startled but predictably coming armed with something for self defense Kuja900 and Eti307 found said mafia now digging through the fridge looking for some leftovers to eat. The mafia noticed their presence and wasted no time disarming Kuja900 and using the baseball bat Kuja900 had brought against him, beaning him once over the head knocked him out cold. Eti307 had a letter opener and stabbed toward the mafia but he grabbed the thing with his hand and bent it in half while mocking Eti307. He bashed him over the head with the bat also knocking him out cold. After getting his midnight snack the mafia poured gasoline all over the house and lit it on fire, burning both Kuja900 and Eti307 to death.
Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread:
shit i got raped, pls kill dr dragoon he did it trust me!