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March 18 2008 15:51 GMT
#508
cmon guys dont put Ghar in the mayor or pardonner's position, he's not 100% clean, theres already clues pointing towards him that i ll not tell again.
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March 18 2008 18:33 GMT
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Ghar if you dont know how to us properly quotes then dont use them.
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March 18 2008 18:58 GMT
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On March 19 2008 03:55 Ghar wrote:
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Ghar's "detective" propostion has a high cost: we blow half of our detectives' most important ability on the first night. What do we gain for losing this? We know whether or not our mayor is Mafia. But this is not even such valuable information! If he is elected already, there is nothing we can do about losing the double lynches. THE "DETECTIVE PLAN" IS NOT WORTH IT.


8 investigates, it's unlikely the detectives will find a mafia with each one. particularly when mafia have 9 kills a night. What I propose is detectives working together, using their other abilities. To do that though, they need total confidence in the mayor.

What would you propose the detectives do? Work alone? Trust the mayor without really being sure?


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March 18 2008 20:13 GMT
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oh god, i was so sure i would be pointed out as Mr.Pink.
i don't think clues are that easy to find
PS: i had the same thing about SoMuchBetter
im suspecting Ghar and SoMuchBetter atm
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March 18 2008 20:28 GMT
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On March 19 2008 05:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
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On March 19 2008 05:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
On March 19 2008 05:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
oh god, i was so sure i would be pointed out as Mr.Pink.
i don't think clues are that easy to find
PS: i had the same thing about SoMuchBetter
im suspecting Ghar and SoMuchBetter atm


actually i noted your name while going through the list of profiles and clues, but basing suspicion off of just having 'pink' in your name isn't much to go on...

here's some of the clues/connections i came up with earlier in the thread:

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On March 18 2008 20:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
I think i'll post up some of my suspicions/connections...

For 'The Wolf' - "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" - part of CTStalker's quote in his profile is "I bear no grudge against you" which relates to the wolf apologizing etc. also 'the wolf' meaning a wolf, which a wolf stalks it's prey and chases them down relatively fast, which relates to 'Stalker' in ctstalkers username. So far that's the best connection i've made with that clue.

"He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead." - not much to go on but it semi-relates to suresh0t's name as sure shot may refer to being of good aim and 'back full of lead' relates to a gun, so gun and shooting = sureshot. not much... but something to take note of.

Mr. Blonde - "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - maybe connection to G.s)Naruto, which naruto is an anime character who has blondehair(i think, unfornatunly i cant remember exactly?lol), and is a ninja, which ninja's are known to be stealthy which fits into 'coming out of nowhere' meaning wasn't expected. not much else really just that connection. also Ninja4ever may have some connection, but his quote iirc doesn't really fit much.

Next, Eddie, eddie is portrayed as the mafia leader. which i agree with caller could mean someone in teamliquid who has a high position or is seen as a leader, but zeks quote is "With great power comes great responsibility." Which may relate to having a position of power, which running the mafia would be. Again just a connection, i'm not saying anyone is mafia just connection clues to things.

Enigma - "An enigma is a puzzle, something mysterious or inexplicable, or a riddle or difficult problem." Siefu's quote is 'He walks among us, but he is not one of us' which may connect to someone mysterious, and the sentence sounds something of a riddle.

Mr. Pink - "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" - BlindAblino may relate to this because blind people are cautious; but there isn't much else to go on though, perhaps albino can be connected with pink.

Anyway that's what i have for now, i have other theories and connections but their more minor then these and will require further analysis before i can even consider making more then a small note on them. Again i'm not saying any of these people are mafia, i'm just pointing out what i found relating clues to them and perhaps other people will make similar connections.



Your "Wolf" clue interpretation is pretty good I think


yup i think its the best u have found, and i also like the one about zeks

PS: its Ablino not Albino <3 (Mr.Pink)
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March 18 2008 23:41 GMT
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Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace
On March 19 2008 01:28 Ghar wrote:
For people that might have missed my plans as mayor, the link is in my profile page.
And I support Ace. Don't know if he's towny or not, but we think alike. So should I end up not getting enough votes, Ace would make a nice alternative if we need to combine votes to win.

Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town.
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March 19 2008 00:34 GMT
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Well having empyrean as pardonner might be a good thing for the town, if he really is a detective im sure he would use is ability wisely.
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Last Edited: 2008-03-19 00:46:34
March 19 2008 00:45 GMT
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still the only way (if that happen) to have a BG killed would be to have the town to lynch one bodyguard (or by vigilante) since mafia wont kill the BG to reveal themselves.
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March 19 2008 03:37 GMT
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On March 18 2008 20:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
I think i'll post up some of my suspicions/connections...

For 'The Wolf' - "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" - part of CTStalker's quote in his profile is "I bear no grudge against you" which relates to the wolf apologizing etc. also 'the wolf' meaning a wolf, which a wolf stalks it's prey and chases them down relatively fast, which relates to 'Stalker' in ctstalkers username. So far that's the best connection i've made with that clue.


Next, Eddie, eddie is portrayed as the mafia leader. which i agree with caller could mean someone in teamliquid who has a high position or is seen as a leader, but zeks quote is "With great power comes great responsibility." Which may relate to having a position of power, which running the mafia would be. Again just a connection, i'm not saying anyone is mafia just connection clues to things.


I think those 2 should be in the top list of who to lynch first, pretty good connections made by xdark.carnivalx
1-Zeks
2-CTStalker
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Last Edited: 2008-03-19 03:55:40
March 19 2008 03:55 GMT
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On March 19 2008 12:52 ahrara_ wrote:
Ok, I see what you're saying there, and agree with you. It's still a bad idea to ask others to lynch people based on a clue.


well i never asked anybody to lynch them, u are free to decide if u agree with the clues or not, if not then thats alright but at this time in the game we have to start somewhere. In day 2, if theres already a list of suspect then it would be easier to point the finger on who is a mafia and who's not
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March 20 2008 00:18 GMT
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On March 20 2008 09:08 Ghar wrote:
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Also, why is everyone so confident that Ace and randombum are clean? While Ace's plan is pretty good, that shouldn't guarantee his innocence.

We're not, Ace is voted because he has a plan of action that will benefit the town even if he were say mafia. Bum is just voted to kick Emp off because of his irrational approach to being elected.

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I have a concern with Ace's plan:

suppose that the mayor is townie and all the bodyguards get the right messages

then suppose that a mafia false claims that hes a bodyguard.

that means we'll end up killing several bodyguards and potentially the mayor for a mafiaso. not a good trade.

If the mayor is innocent, then he'll straight out deny the fake bodyguards, thus we have free mafia to kill without any wasted effort.


This is the 3rd times already that im telling you to learn how to make a proper quote. Stop only quoting what a certain person wrote, Leave His NAME.
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March 20 2008 00:33 GMT
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On March 20 2008 09:30 ahrara_ wrote:
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Also, why is everyone so confident that Ace and randombum are clean? While Ace's plan is pretty good, that shouldn't guarantee his innocence.

We're not, Ace is voted because he has a plan of action that will benefit the town even if he were say mafia. Bum is just voted to kick Emp off because of his irrational approach to being elected.

I have a concern with Ace's plan:

suppose that the mayor is townie and all the bodyguards get the right messages

then suppose that a mafia false claims that hes a bodyguard.

that means we'll end up killing several bodyguards and potentially the mayor for a mafiaso. not a good trade.

If the mayor is innocent, then he'll straight out deny the fake bodyguards, thus we have free mafia to kill without any wasted effort.


This is the 3rd times already that im telling you to learn how to make a proper quote. Stop only quoting what a certain person wrote, Leave His NAME.

What do you mean?


what I mean is that its useless to quote what someone say if u remove his name, it could be a fake quote just to fuck everyone, i dont mean its what he's doing but it would be better to leave the name in the quote to avoid such thing
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March 20 2008 04:09 GMT
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On March 20 2008 13:03 bumatlarge wrote:
CTStalker hasn't said much, but he voted. Also alot of people found the "wolf" clue to link to him in multiple ways. Wouldn't be a big loss if he was townie.

I agree with him he should be the first one to be lynched to see at least if we arent that bad @ finding clues
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March 20 2008 04:28 GMT
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Yeah like I was pretty sure it would happen, Ace isnt helping the town with that lynch
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On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote:
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On March 21 2008 05:14 Ziel wrote:
Seriously i hope ppl DONT SEND IN THEIR PMS YET TO ACE! for the plain and simple fact that we dont even know hes clean yet. wait a DT confirms. if all the blues send in their pms (or a number of them), and ace turns out to be mafia, we're as good as dead!

Ok, time to sleep. It's 4AM and I gotta wake up at 7 for a full day of experiments >_<


Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him?


to make him less of a suspect to the town?
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Last Edited: 2008-03-20 21:38:12
March 20 2008 21:36 GMT
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On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote:
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On March 21 2008 06:22 CDRdude wrote:
On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.

Perhaps you didn't see what happened in the last game; it was a worse rape than the OSL finals. The town needs to get it's act together this time, and start making a comeback. Also, the plan isn't that bad. It gives a known townie information, which always helps, and he can use that to reduce the odds of hitting town instead of mafia.


I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging.

I agree, this game is all about challenge, it isnt a game about Lets ALL play with our roles revealed so that we can Kill mafia Easly, thats what is happening atm. people thinking that way (theres a shit load of poeple wanting this) should just not play as simple as that.
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Last Edited: 2008-03-20 21:58:59
March 20 2008 21:57 GMT
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On March 21 2008 06:51 Scorch wrote:
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On March 21 2008 06:36 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote:
On March 21 2008 06:22 CDRdude wrote:
On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.

Perhaps you didn't see what happened in the last game; it was a worse rape than the OSL finals. The town needs to get it's act together this time, and start making a comeback. Also, the plan isn't that bad. It gives a known townie information, which always helps, and he can use that to reduce the odds of hitting town instead of mafia.


I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging.

I agree, this game is all about challenge, it isnt a game about Lets ALL play with our roles revealed so that we can Kill mafia Easly, thats what is happening atm. people thinking that way (theres a shit load of poeple wanting this) should just not play as simple as that.

May I remind you two that there is no safe way of revealing one's role? People can just lie without easily being noticed, you know? Ace's strategy is forcing mafia to do just that: lie. Town is far from winning. It's just one step in building up information and spotting contratictions to hopefully catch a couple of mafia in the end. How can you come to the conclusion that this strategy is cheap?

What i meant is that its freaking boring, but thats just me, im still gonna play the game even with this ass strategy, but i wont pm my role and thats my right. u can put me on ur mafia list, I dont care, just cause im against the town's strategy then go on. Thats what happened last game poeple were being lynch just because some people didnt like them and then every other player did the same without a clue.
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March 20 2008 22:09 GMT
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On March 21 2008 07:05 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
ok sherlok, tell us a different strategy to win. Or what are you proposing? random hits? lmao

random hit have already been done by Ace didnt worked well, I'm in no position to tell u another strategy since we dont know if our clues are good @ the moment since Ace didnt lynch that CTStalker or something like that with his first lynch.
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March 20 2008 22:26 GMT
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On March 21 2008 07:19 Kau wrote:
So HeroesPink and FrenchToast, how do you propose we play the game?

plz its HeRoS) not Heroes -ty
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On March 21 2008 07:15 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Unless, that is, you are mafia. Not neccessarily accusing you, you might just be really, really stupid. Same goes for HeroeS)Pink (should we be paying attention to the mr. pink clue or is that too obvious? Damn you for picking a clue like that chuiu).

Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?
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On March 21 2008 09:34 Empyrean wrote:
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On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:
Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role.


Thanks for noticing :/

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On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:
Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that.


Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap".

Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him.

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Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink?


Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!

I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu.

If that is good for the town do it... waste of a DT if u want my opinion. It would be better to have a DT on CTStalker's case
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On March 21 2008 09:56 Empyrean wrote:
One DT will probably be assigned to CTStalker as well. Besides, if you want to prove your innocence to the town, you should have no reservations against using a DT to clear your name.

I have no problems with that just saying its a waste. Theres no way Mr.brown, Eddie,Mr blue , Mr. Pink etc.. Would be clues thats just non-sense
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March 21 2008 16:49 GMT
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Who says Mr.Pink was a clue? all names arent clues, its what is after the Mr. *** is the clue
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On March 22 2008 02:00 Chezinu wrote:
I was referring to ShaLLoW[baY]'s list:

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=31#602

you are right about looking at clues around them. I'm just looking at all the possibilities. I am stating obvious clues and far-fetched ones, just in case. Hero you really have nothing to worry about as of now, unless more clues come out or some DT investigates you.

I think i have already been checked
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March 22 2008 02:26 GMT
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On March 22 2008 11:16 wurm wrote:
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On March 22 2008 11:12 Chuiu wrote:
DAY
A lightning bolt came from the sky and struck down HotZhot into his grave.


Holy shit, didn't know God was playing. Who's side is he on?

Im God, So he's on the town's side
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March 22 2008 13:43 GMT
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wow you are defending youself as if u were the TOP suspect, we are just throwing stuff atm dont take it personnal.

And theres probably something with the *face 2 face* from day 1 and*climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.*
ill check this out later
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On March 22 2008 23:32 JeeJee wrote:
a recurring statement:

day1
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He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake...


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climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged...


unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O

edit: just went through myself.. only things i've found were
nemY's chick looking at her face in the mirror
RowdierBob's animation with 2 guys looking at each other

well from names and quote theres nothing really.
Omfghi2u2 and LenWe (quote = whats up) or something like that he's liek #128 or so
PS: that just show how weak that clue is atm :p
Edit: wow i just realise it could be me lol!
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Last Edited: 2008-03-23 20:11:35
March 23 2008 20:07 GMT
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rofl, this mayor is a joke, theres like 6-7 hours left for the vote and still nothign from him, poeple will not check 1 hour before the final countdown to see who to vote, (some poeple will probably be away since its Easter's holiday)so theres a huge chance that Ghar will be lynched (which i dont think is that bad atm since theres alots of clues toward him)
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On March 24 2008 05:07 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:04 LucasWoJ wrote:
Yeah, anyone pointing fingers at Ace is arousing my suspicions of being in the mafia. By not sending in the PMs, you're hurting the entire town. Anyone questioning Ace's trustworthiness should stop. If you haven't been following the thread and decided to read the last few posts, wrong move. Re-read the threat or go to falcyn's blog.

Requesting that a detective speak is just plain stupid too...Reread the thread, all of this was covered already.
haha yeah, this is starting to look like a rare game where the town is actually more organized than the mafia, and they're panicking :D

Edit: also could Chuiu tell us if he'd be willing to extend day if we're not ready yet?


That would be stupid to extend since this is a 48h circle, why giving an extra day because the town isnt ready ? rofl. the only valid reason for extending would be : chuiu not able to (holiday)
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On March 24 2008 05:12 LucasWoJ wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:10 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:07 Falcynn wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:04 LucasWoJ wrote:
Yeah, anyone pointing fingers at Ace is arousing my suspicions of being in the mafia. By not sending in the PMs, you're hurting the entire town. Anyone questioning Ace's trustworthiness should stop. If you haven't been following the thread and decided to read the last few posts, wrong move. Re-read the threat or go to falcyn's blog.

Requesting that a detective speak is just plain stupid too...Reread the thread, all of this was covered already.
haha yeah, this is starting to look like a rare game where the town is actually more organized than the mafia, and they're panicking :D

Edit: also could Chuiu tell us if he'd be willing to extend day if we're not ready yet?


That would be stupid to extend since this is a 48h circle, why giving an extra day because the town isnt ready ? rofl. the only valid reason for extending would be : chuiu not able to (holiday)


...so you're against the town getting more time if it needs it?

what i mean is like in a hockey game score is 2-3 for the other team 10 sec left to do, u wont receive another 1min by the ref to score the goal, it will end @ the 60min mark. Like this theres a 48h circle that should be respect.

I know that im acting against the town, I dont care i prefer fair play.
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On March 24 2008 05:15 Ace wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:07 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
rolf, this mayor is a joke, theres like 6-7 hours left for the vote and still nothign from him, poeple will not check 1 hour before the final countdown to see who to vote, (some poeple will probably be away since its Easter's holiday



like, I'm seriously close to asking the town to lynch you. This has got to be at least the 4th time you've stated something obviously so stupid whether you are Innocent or not the town would be better off without you. And here's why I'm calling you out:

Anyone with any sense realizes I'm trying to save an innocent life that obviously hasn't PM'd me back. And we all know there's not a lot of time before the vote closes.

So I'm thinking your Mafia because you're always on my nuts and you know that the voting is going to close soon.

You also know I'm not going to get that PM I need.

And you also know that the info you sent me is the only reason I'd think about not asking for you to be killed (you'd be wrong on that account).

I'm willing to drop my current lead and just ask everyone to vote for you and French_Toast because of the shit you guys have been doing.

As an aside for the town, here's the PM convo between myself and French_Toast:


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Original Message:

now you really gotta stfu on the thread because you're becoming really annoying. And by the way your innocence has not been proven yet, detectives wont speak up and you haven't voted with your "disabled" vote count. And you protecting ghar like that makes me really suspicious, voting for inactive people without relevant clues = bad idea.


To: French_Toast
Subject: Re: my role
Date: 3/24/08 04:58
stop bitching. If my innocence hasn't been proven yet in your eyes so be it, but don't come at me talking a bunch of shit. If you feel that way, post it publicly and stop acting like a fucking moron.



His PM makes no damn sense, because when have I voted? I haven't.
He either is not reading the thread or Mafia trying to cause confusion.

As of now, I ask the townies to match clues up on Heros)Pink and French_Toast.
Do as you guys please with your votes until I get this information, because honestly if either of these 2 die and turn up innocent it's not going to hurt us. We've been through this a thousand times and you fucktards still keep spewing shit which makes me think you'd have to be Mafia despite the big fucking signs that say STOP CAUSING CONFUSION EVEN WHEN WE ALL ALREADY KNOW WHATS GOING ON.

U already know my Role , I did what everyone should do , i even told you what i did with it , so if u arent a mafioso u would not try to get me lynched
EDIT: Why would not it hurt the town, What if I have a role that is helping the town? stop making no sense and trying to get ride of me, U never pmed me back @ each pm i send to you, im starting to get suspicious even more than I was.
I was also the first one to point out that we should not be Voting Ghar for Mayor since there was clues against him.
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On March 24 2008 05:20 LucasWoJ wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:17 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:15 Ace wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:07 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
rolf, this mayor is a joke, theres like 6-7 hours left for the vote and still nothign from him, poeple will not check 1 hour before the final countdown to see who to vote, (some poeple will probably be away since its Easter's holiday



like, I'm seriously close to asking the town to lynch you. This has got to be at least the 4th time you've stated something obviously so stupid whether you are Innocent or not the town would be better off without you. And here's why I'm calling you out:

Anyone with any sense realizes I'm trying to save an innocent life that obviously hasn't PM'd me back. And we all know there's not a lot of time before the vote closes.

So I'm thinking your Mafia because you're always on my nuts and you know that the voting is going to close soon.

You also know I'm not going to get that PM I need.

And you also know that the info you sent me is the only reason I'd think about not asking for you to be killed (you'd be wrong on that account).

I'm willing to drop my current lead and just ask everyone to vote for you and French_Toast because of the shit you guys have been doing.

As an aside for the town, here's the PM convo between myself and French_Toast:


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Original Message:

now you really gotta stfu on the thread because you're becoming really annoying. And by the way your innocence has not been proven yet, detectives wont speak up and you haven't voted with your "disabled" vote count. And you protecting ghar like that makes me really suspicious, voting for inactive people without relevant clues = bad idea.


To: French_Toast
Subject: Re: my role
Date: 3/24/08 04:58
stop bitching. If my innocence hasn't been proven yet in your eyes so be it, but don't come at me talking a bunch of shit. If you feel that way, post it publicly and stop acting like a fucking moron.



His PM makes no damn sense, because when have I voted? I haven't.
He either is not reading the thread or Mafia trying to cause confusion.

As of now, I ask the townies to match clues up on Heros)Pink and French_Toast.
Do as you guys please with your votes until I get this information, because honestly if either of these 2 die and turn up innocent it's not going to hurt us. We've been through this a thousand times and you fucktards still keep spewing shit which makes me think you'd have to be Mafia despite the big fucking signs that say STOP CAUSING CONFUSION EVEN WHEN WE ALL ALREADY KNOW WHATS GOING ON.

U already know my Role , I did what everyone should do , i even told you what i did with it , so if u arent a mafioso u would not try to get me lynched
EDIT: Why would not it hurt the town, What if I have a role that is helping the town? stop making no sense and trying to get ride of me, U never pmed me back @ each pm i send to you, im starting to get suspicious even more than I was.
I was also the first one to point out that we should not be Voting Ghar for Mayor since there was clues against him.


And by saying that, you're implying you're blue encouraging the mafia to target you. You hurt the town with even that statement.

So what? what if im a simple townie? they would be wasting a kill, and if I had a blue role
they would try to get me lynched instead of wasting a hit on me
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On March 24 2008 05:23 Empyrean wrote:
Oh: one thing: vigilantes leave clues behind as well. So if detectives check out and a clue matches a player, it could be that they're vigilantes.

Unless they PM Ace their roles.

Vigilantes can't kill on the first night no?
Just saying that in NIght 1 all clues are against the mafia not against townies
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On March 24 2008 05:26 LucasWoJ wrote:
No, but apparently, the PMs Ace is missing is from vigilantes, which really hurts us since Ace already has a suspect list of 3-4 people (from what he said earlier).

nvm useless info
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On March 24 2008 05:31 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:26 LucasWoJ wrote:
No, but apparently, the PMs Ace is missing is from vigilantes, which really hurts us since Ace already has a suspect list of 3-4 people (from what he said earlier).

Or some answer from the detective, since chuiu might not have answered yet
Chuiu said he'd answer detective questions ASAP. Seeing as how Chuiu seems to be online roughly every 5-8 hours, I believe enough time has passed to say that Ace is a towny.

well I was just saying that ace might have sent DTs to check some Player. Im not questioning is role (townie)
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March 23 2008 20:35 GMT
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On March 24 2008 05:31 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:26 LucasWoJ wrote:
No, but apparently, the PMs Ace is missing is from vigilantes, which really hurts us since Ace already has a suspect list of 3-4 people (from what he said earlier).

Or some answer from the detective, since chuiu might not have answered yet
Chuiu said he'd answer detective questions ASAP. Seeing as how Chuiu seems to be online roughly every 5-8 hours, I believe enough time has passed to say that Ace is a towny.

Edit: also if you want to retract your statement, just do like me and put at the bottom of/above your post

"Edit: ignore this, useless info"

instead of removing your post. Since that seems pretty suspicious.

I edited cause i reread the post from lucasWoJ, that says the Pm ace was waiting on are the one from vigilante, so looks like he have all DTs information he needed
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March 23 2008 20:38 GMT
#2166
On March 24 2008 05:36 Ace wrote:
Why would you assume Lucas knows exactly what info I need?


Well my post was useless thats the resaon I edited @ first since it wasnt related to what he said, I'm trusting nobody except a few (not gonna list them)
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On March 24 2008 05:39 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:36 Ace wrote:
Why would you assume Lucas knows exactly what info I need?


Well my post was useless thats the resaon I edited @ first since it wasnt related to what he said, I'm trusting nobody except a few (not gonna list them)
Let me guess...there are only 19 people on your list of people you trust?


lol I'll stop hassling you now.

Nha you can keep doing it, I like it :D
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On March 24 2008 05:52 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 24 2008 05:49 Chuiu wrote:
I don't know where you people are getting this 'mafia vote on who to kill' crap. Its the same as it was last game and its clearly written in the roles that they decide as a group who to kill.

Night comes in about 7 hours. Tons of people were bitching about the game not moving fast enough and begging for 24h days and now you guys want 72 hours? I'm not extending it, if I do that then the 48h thing will mean nothing. But that doesn't mean I won't delay day or night due to personal reasons.
Ah, thanks for the confirmation. I guess in about 5-6 hours if Ace hasn't told us who to vote then we might just have to listen to ahrara and bandwagon Ghar.

no, we should not end up bangwagonning 1 hour before, what we should do is to be sure Ghar is lynched and have the less number of player possible to lynch him and then, ace could ask a DT to check how many of theses are mafioso (I'm gonna keep my vote to Ghar taking the chance to be on the list)
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On March 24 2008 05:59 LucasWoJ wrote:
Don't forget that people can die during the night.

I was gonna say the same
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#2343
On March 24 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:
"That would be stupid to extend since this is a 48h circle, why giving an extra day because the town isnt ready ? rofl. the only valid reason for extending would be : chuiu not able to (holiday)"

I would like to call more attention to this post. It was made by heros)pink

Wtf man, wtf.

I dont want to search in all the 118pages but Chuiu backed what I said : Its called fair play, if u check carefully all I have said against the town it is all about the Fair play.
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On March 24 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Honestly Pinkie, you said it so hateful like the idea disgusted you. If you are townie aligned, you would rather more time. Fair or not, you also argued it is Easter weekend, so people might not be able to be here, SO then you counter your own argument to say don't give more time?

Suspicious behavior. Very.

No i just said it was stupid (not that ace was stupid but his act, PS: I know he had to wait for someone to post his suspicions) to wait 2-3 hours before the deadline WHICH is known for 2 days already.
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On March 24 2008 12:23 Chezinu wrote:
I used to suspect HeRoS)Pink, now I just think he is a plain townie who is bored and is just playing around for fun.

5 stars
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On March 24 2008 12:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
If we had Village Idiot as a role, I'd guess it was Pinkie.

ROFL, i used to play a game like this in real life and there was a role which was the *idiot of the town* his ability was if he's lynched by the town he have another life :D i would need a 2nd life atm :D
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On March 24 2008 12:30 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 24 2008 12:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 24 2008 12:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
If we had Village Idiot as a role, I'd guess it was Pinkie.

ROFL, i used to play a game like this in real life and there was a role which was the *idiot of the town* his ability was if he's lynched by the town he have another life :D i would need a 2nd life atm :D
lol in forums where they have forum cash, the village idiot's role is to get himself lynched and if he succeeds he makes a predetermined amount of cash.

I would be so good @ doing that im pretty sure of that
PS: I know that im not the best at expressing myself, english isnt my first language + I'm an arrogant person
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Im pretty sure if i were a mafioso, Chuiu would have made clues about my quote not about my name. Its like if (for exemple) Ace was a mafioso and in the Clues area he would Write *ace killed heros)Pink* that would be non-sense
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#2371
On March 24 2008 12:36 Chezinu wrote:
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On March 24 2008 12:29 Showtime! wrote:
Too bad you cannot just buy one.

I'm the town drunkard.

He's the town idiot.

Isn't it a wonderful life?


lies! you aren't the town drunkard. If you were you would of voted for Ghar, "Beer for the masses"

I was pretty sure the town drunkard was our mayor (ace) :D
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So is chuiu going to switch for the night soon, its pretty obvious who will be lynched ( usually there would be like 20 min left no?)
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well its 12pm ad im working @ 8am so well! im off , Please do not make a comment attacking me by the time ill be sleeping cuz ill not be able to defend myself
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On March 24 2008 15:31 Kau wrote:
Dr.Dragoon
Kuja900

Ninja4ever.
Chezinu

zeks
rpf

Hittegods
KF91

str
BlindAlbino

nemY
BuGzlToOnl

Kuja900
Dr.Dragoon

French_Toast
MoRe_mInErAls

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So would it be worth it to check these people with a detective (asking how many mafia members voted for _____)?

I would check dr.dragoon + kuja900 because they are voting for each other wtf? and the game as just started and i never saw them posting in this thread yet, just my tho
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On March 25 2008 01:18 Ace wrote:
Update

I got some interesting information about centering around Mandalor's death. Check this out:


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Mandalor Germany. March 24 2008 03:15. Posts 1164 PM Profile Blog Quote
I abstain as well.
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Ace United States. March 24 2008 06:21. Posts 1938 PM Profile Quote
well then how about this.

Everyone vote for Mandalor to be lynched.
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I revealed this at 6:21 on March 24th. Smurfingchobo already voted for Mandalor on the 23rd. If he's mafia, then the mafia's game plan might be to vote against each other.

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smurfingchobo March 23 2008 20:45. Posts 527 PM Profile Quote
I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor.
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I thought that was an interesting vote (a day before) because no one had mentioned him as a suspect, and I couldn't find any clues leading to him.



To sum up, basically smurfingchobo voted on Mandalor way before I even brought him up.
This is odd because even when we knew Mandalor was Mafia, we couldn't even find a single clue that implicated him.

What do you guys think about this? Someone did some nice work

well thats what is happening with dr.dragon and kuja900 they both were in the first to vote and they voted for each other, and they both didnt even posted one time iirc
PS: wasnt there a clue about a dragon?
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On March 25 2008 01:42 ahrara_ wrote:
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On March 25 2008 01:40 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 25 2008 01:18 Ace wrote:
Update

I got some interesting information about centering around Mandalor's death. Check this out:



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Mandalor Germany. March 24 2008 03:15. Posts 1164 PM Profile Blog Quote
I abstain as well.
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Ace United States. March 24 2008 06:21. Posts 1938 PM Profile Quote
well then how about this.

Everyone vote for Mandalor to be lynched.
###

I revealed this at 6:21 on March 24th. Smurfingchobo already voted for Mandalor on the 23rd. If he's mafia, then the mafia's game plan might be to vote against each other.

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smurfingchobo March 23 2008 20:45. Posts 527 PM Profile Quote
I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor.
###

I thought that was an interesting vote (a day before) because no one had mentioned him as a suspect, and I couldn't find any clues leading to him.



To sum up, basically smurfingchobo voted on Mandalor way before I even brought him up.
This is odd because even when we knew Mandalor was Mafia, we couldn't even find a single clue that implicated him.

What do you guys think about this? Someone did some nice work

well thats what is happening with dr.dragon and kuja900 they both were in the first to vote and they voted for each other, and they both didnt even posted one time iirc
PS: wasnt there a clue about a dragon?

Could be Kuja voted dragoon for shits and giggles. Dragoon retaliates. It may be worth checking them out, but it shouldn't be a priority. Mafia wouldn't be dumb enough to be the sole voter on somebody... right?

Well if u check last game, Dr.Dragon wasnt really smart
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On March 25 2008 07:40 Showtime! wrote:
I don't think we should drag this game out an extra day if we don't have to.

Well I guess theres at least 3 reasons why chuiu might wait for tomorrow
1. Mafia might not have send their list yet
2.Paramedic might not have said who they want to protect
3.Giving the chance to vigilantes to kill someone if they werent active today
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On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote:
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On March 25 2008 08:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:
This game is so difficult-_-


Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring.

You can act as I do to spice things up a bit
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#2727
Just an idea (for Ghar's group) : I love the 2 seperate groups but i think Shadowdrgn and useless should not be in the same group @ suspect 1
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On March 25 2008 23:22 qrs wrote:
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On March 25 2008 22:30 Plexa wrote:
ShadowDrgn
Rather strong clue connection here and considering the fact he is also on the Ghar list (1/7 remember?) i strongly believe this is your mafia man
If anything, the Ghar list reduces his chance of being mafia. Chance of anyone not on the Ghar list being Mafia is ~1/6.1. The out-of-nowhere clue I like better for Ninja. The shotgun clue may be a good one, though.

well I think shadowdrgn have a 1/2 chances of being a mafioso since its either him or useless
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March 25 2008 14:59 GMT
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Showtime! is either Drunk all the time or a mafioso
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#2739
On March 26 2008 00:00 wurm wrote:
How long do we got 'til Day?

hum around 13hrs
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#2820
On March 26 2008 08:22 Ace wrote:
I dont have notes on a lot of people. only...43 people

Well im sure im in that group so what was ur first impression of me :D?
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On March 26 2008 11:31 Showtime! wrote:
Oh for fucks sake stop spamming useless banter Pink!!

YOU AREN'T HELPING THE CAUSE!!

I vote PINKY and the BRAIN to die!!


I'm to smart to be lynched, Ill be killed by the mafia tonight
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On March 26 2008 11:39 LucasWoJ wrote:
I'm just wondering, why do you say you're definitely going to die? o.O

He's just trying to look desperate so that the mafia will not kill him,
PS: I know the mafia's list is already sent
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On March 26 2008 11:48 qrs wrote:
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On March 26 2008 11:31 Showtime! wrote:
Oh for fucks sake stop spamming useless banter
QFT
Practice what you preach.

Hey we are just having fun before we hear from chuiu if the day post will be up soon
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On March 26 2008 12:09 LucasWoJ wrote:
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On March 26 2008 12:07 Ace wrote:
THis dude is very odd, as even when logic stares him in the face he refuses to look.



Was that part added after or before the way he chose to vote on Day 2?

Probably when i was talking against the town, as the * we all tell him our role* and stuff like that. also that i wasnt really cooperating*** with him

***dunno if thats an english word
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so i guess since shadowdrgn, useless might be the logic choice 1/6 now @ Ghar's list but theres one thing, the mafia might have killed shadowdrgn and Hope that we will lynch useless. Still useless should be checked today
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March 27 2008 03:14 GMT
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On March 27 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On March 27 2008 11:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him.


This seems like an obvious "bum" reference.



I agree...o_o....Ace, we have three detectives left? Should we have this clue examined before voting...because if we do get a mafia in our lynch...And Randombum is mafia....He can pardon cuz he'd already be screwed...

there is another Bum in the list not just randomburn
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March 27 2008 03:16 GMT
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On March 27 2008 12:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
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On March 27 2008 12:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On March 27 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 27 2008 11:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him.


This seems like an obvious "bum" reference.



I agree...o_o....Ace, we have three detectives left? Should we have this clue examined before voting...because if we do get a mafia in our lynch...And Randombum is mafia....He can pardon cuz he'd already be screwed...

there is another Burn in the list not just randomburn

Is bumatlarge playing? That's the other name, if so.

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yeah im an idiot
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On March 27 2008 12:26 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
OMG I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING.

Those clues that keep referring to electronic devices oddly malfunctioning: this sounds like the work of something similar to an EMP blast. For those who don't know, EMP stands for Electro-Magnetic Pulse. Now, I was looking around for clues relating to EMP and guess what: only one person has EMP in his profile or name:

Empyrean

I think it have already been said after Day 2
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March 28 2008 01:20 GMT
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On March 28 2008 08:16 Mandalor wrote:




edit: to the post above this.
NO fuck NO Ace couldn't know that Showtime got hit. Showtime could've told him, but Ace wouldn't know if that was true if he hadn't recieved a pm from Lucas. Ace is smart enough to not declare someone innocent if he's not absolutely sure and the only way he could know that hit on showtime definitely happened is if the medic told him.

Even if Lucas pmed Ace, it doesnt matter,
Showtime! told Ace that he had been hit and saved,
Ace knew already that lucas was protecting Showtime!.
Theres no way Showtime! would come out of nowhere and say he have taken a hit and have been saved by a medic because Ace (not gonna quote what he said) is handling all his medics atm so Ace would have known that Showtime! wasnt lying (Ace isnt stupid, he would have realised that, 100% sure)
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On March 28 2008 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Hahahaha now Pink is roleclaiming Paramedic in order to be saved from lynching

hum...
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On March 28 2008 10:57 bumatlarge wrote:
I think mafia screwed themselves when they didn't pose as a detective and accuse Ace of being a mafia when he first became mayor. it would have revealed another detective at least and would have stopped this whole instant win thing.

yeah u sould have sacrificed urself
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after all things happening in this mafia game #2, i hope nobody will be begging Chuiu to make a 3rd one, well I dunno what he think of all this but i would never organised another one for tl.net for sure. poeple are so dumb unbelievable
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well the head hammer clues could be relate to ace
explaination : the picture just show the mayor : not necessary Ghar ( it was his but if u look more carefully the picture show the mayor with a *mafioso's head*
Since no detective checked Ace, Im sure Ace isnt 100% clean, so is showtime!, if araav really joined their channel and the reaction from showtime! was so pointless that he had something to hide , either he's a mafioso or he's a blue. Just my tho, anyway im the town's idiot so do whatever you want.
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On March 30 2008 11:42 Energies wrote:
Thats the problem with clues, everyone has their own interpretation.

especially when like 75% of the player has the same kinda weird that its not the good one, and u have clues towards you too watch out
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On March 30 2008 13:07 Plexa wrote:
Ok, here is my list of suspicious people.

Wizard as possibly California Mountain Snake
+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

The connection here is between the wizards hat and the hat he took off as he bowed. If the hat becomes a theme wizard should be a suspect

Amber[LighT] as Copperhead
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Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims

From the connection between Carmel and Copperhead (im not great on accents though =/)

str as Taipan Snake
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He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
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- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics

No units = no power, no batteries = no power. The single point here is thematic and relates. Rather strong feeling about this one.

MTF as Enigma
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Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right

This is rather nice "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." hello Enigma's persona! rather sure about this clue too

Queasy as Sidewinder
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Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

The recurring sickness relates to Queasy more than any other person in this game.

suresh0t as Mr Orange
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
Traits
- Cuts phonelines

Garage connection, tools connection, there is a strong connection between these clues and this picture from his profile.

MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer
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Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

(Snake charmer might be Mandalor, possibly not given the mandalorian reference). His picture is of a sword, rather blatant clue - but so was tomissthemark. Also his quote advocates change which connects to another mafia member

Also, i have my eye on Clazziquai (band reference), Sonuvbob (profile references, drop of activity), aZnvaLiaNce (asian connection + profile info), MoRe_mInErAls (god picture), Lysithea (quote)(nice profile pic, i love it ^^!), 0cz3c (latin quote, dealing with immortality), ahara_ (asian connection), Naib (picture and quote), BuGzlToOnl (breaking the code), Zeks (quote), rpf (quote). Those people have something there which can be attributed to one or more mafia but im not certain enough about the clues to say anything conclusive yet
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while the clue links are rather tenuous, remember in mafia 1 how streched the clues were? one facet about each player was taken and inspired the clues.. this is what i've done here; taken one clue from people and matched it to a recurring theme in a mafia. This is what makes me so confident in my accusations

if i die tonight, you know im on to something

I won't say who but most of them are on my mafia's list
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#3533
On March 31 2008 09:01 Empyrean wrote:
Anyone else notice the lack of replies by Ace?

He said he wasnt going to put more time into this game iirc
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On April 05 2008 19:44 Plexa wrote:
fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on

why no analysis this game?

Well I'm suspecting Fusindf of being a mafioso since the begining, he's even in the list of suspect I had sent to Showtime! before he was killed. But i was suspecting him not on clues but by his play (feeling)
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On April 06 2008 10:41 fusionsdf wrote:
even if it seems obvious, Im the only suspect who is about to provide clues.... it looks like Im safe today, but to the people voting me:

I'm the only suspect about to provide lots of clues. Let me go tonight. If what I provide isnt good enough, you can always lynch me next time.

LoL, i like the way you defend yourself, im not sure if ur mafia or not but u are most likely one of them just by posting this post, congrats.
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On April 09 2008 09:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Besides suspicion on fusion and useless, I really think d.arkive has enough non-obvious clues pointing to him, especially with the "direct current/strange mechanism" clue.

As for Ace, I'm like 50/50 on my position regarding him. I can't really entirely believe what he says (then again I can say the same for ALL users on the internet) but he has made some good plans to weed out scum. What strikes me odd is why he decided to stop implementing this plan. I thought it was well-thought out. You can't just let a couple mis-lynches keep you down.

Do I have to present the Rick-roll video to prove my point? NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN

You should follow the game a little bit more before saying stuff
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April 09 2008 01:40 GMT
#3900
Well since Im probably gonna be dead tonight here's the list of my top suspects
energies
lostyourskills
SoMuchBetter (is he innocent or is he still not checked?)
G.S)naruto
str
Zeks
lenWe
Dr.Dragoon or GeneralStan (they were both idiot last game and now both so quiet (weird)).
useless and fusiondf ( I was pretty sure he was a mafioso, but now i dunno)

Ill check was plexa wrote earlier and try to point out who they could be and i might be adding names if I find anything.

PS#1: The day vote was hilarous, and now knowing that only 1 out of 14 voting for trancestorm's mafia is even more hilarous. Day 1 we were voting for poeple without clues towrads them even if there was strong clues (zeks) because we didnt want to lynch an innocent townie (wtf???) and now because trancestorm was on both list, the town wanted so much a mafia kill that we manage to lynch a townie just because he was on 2 list (having 1 mafioso in each). That vote was just a *let's hope he's mafia so that we can get ride of those 2 list and have all those innocent*, instead we arent going nowhere and probably going to lose our important player tonight. Well at least I had a good laugh and it sure made my day

PS#2: Im posting PS#1 in hope to get this thread more alive
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April 09 2008 02:48 GMT
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So here's my updated list of suspects after checking plexa's post on page. 184
I will not post again everything that have been said (clues before) except for 1 person

Eddie : zeks or LostYourSkills

Mr.Blonde : Hotzshot

King Brown Snake : I could not decide between G.S)Naruto (quote) or RowdierBob ( picture+quote) but I would lynch RowdierBoB first why? cuz in his picture there's 2 poeple staring @ each other and one who seems to have power over the other (mafia) + in the quote there's the word *forgave* and
Mr.Brown is known to remove himself (not exactly) of the way when its time to kill the townie.

The Wolf : SureSh0t, if he turn's out not to be the Wolf he might be related to the hammer's clue (picture)

Mr.Red : useless (maybe, not 100% sure)

Taipan Snake : str

and there's the list from plexa that i would interesting
Cottonmouth = fanatacist
California Mountain Snake : SoMuchBetter

still on my suspect list :
Energies
Fusiondf
Dr.Dragoon
LostYourSkills
lenWe

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On April 04 2008 10:05 Plexa wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

Ok, at first i was like wtf Enigma is Ace? but then i checked inactive player and found Siefu
his quote makes me think he's Enigma 100% sure.

His quote : He walks among us, but he is not one of us.

from the text : -he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off

-Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help
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#3992
On April 10 2008 20:41 Plexa wrote:
ROFL SUP MOTHERFUCKERS
D.ARKIVE WAS MAFIA OMYGOD IM GOOD?

yo town, im on to some serious shit ya know what im saying?!

i got hit, TWICE and lived

motherfuckers

die you mafia scum shit fuck

double lynch time to mop the floor ok

So I guess its time to lynch poeple on plexa's list
With all the clues u have found lately i was sure they would have use the suicide bomber on you to get ride of you, but they failed and u have another night to catch some mafioso <3
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April 10 2008 12:06 GMT
#3994
would be nice to know who gaved araav the channel since he said he didnt hack his way into the it.
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and wtf? from the list of 4 suspects having chezinu as a potential townie more than the others, you had to sent a vigi on him? or you never said to kill him?
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April 10 2008 12:20 GMT
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well that means that Taipan Snake = d.arkive
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#4006
On April 10 2008 22:13 Plexa wrote:
Basically, if you want to gain some reputation try to find profiles to fit Mr Orange and Mr Red's patterns. I have a number of suspects for each but i want to see how the town analysing things so i know the town won't be lost if i get killed

Also, Cottonmouth = 12, its the recurring number

I think i just found what u wanted us to find :D:D
12 = ABCDEFGHIGK [L]
L is the 12 letters
and theres a player named L without much information
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On April 10 2008 01:42 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 10:05 Plexa wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

Ok, at first i was like wtf Enigma is Ace? but then i checked inactive player and found Siefu
his quote makes me think he's Enigma 100% sure.

His quote : He walks among us, but he is not one of us.

from the text : -he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off

-Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help

could you check this one plexa
It was on page 197 and i think poeple havnt read it.
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April 10 2008 13:41 GMT
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On April 10 2008 22:38 Plexa wrote:
as long as i am alive i dont want to see anymore lynchings around people without any substantial evidence to back it up. We're at a stage where we have a TON of information to go on, so there is no reason we shouldn't be using it.

If you think araav is mafia - great - prove it

EDIT: @ pink, i'll check it

araav is a confirmed townie, showtime! said it before dying, theres no reason to lynch him
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On April 10 2008 22:47 Plexa wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Appearance 1
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

Appearance 2
The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Appearance 3
Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right

Truth be told enigma is a real enigma for me as there seems to be no common theme. But Siefu's quote is a perfect match for appearance 1 and 3.

"No more of this bullshit protection" - implies that Enigma was a bodyguard type role but really was mafia

The the note clue from the last appearance also reinforces this

However, appearance two is still eluding me... although that quote of his loosely applies...

i'll give Siefu a 80% chance of being mafia

Well from appearance #2 the *demanded an explanation for what was going on* from the townie could be related to siefu's quote
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#4019
On April 10 2008 23:19 Plexa wrote:
I'd also like to propose that smurfingchobo is mafia, consider that and tell me what you think
Also consider Siefu as Joe
Also, investigate SoMuchBetter and LoStYouRSkiLLS

Joe=siefu? i tho he was Enigma? its either Siefu or MasterOfChaos I can't see anyone else being Enigma
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here's an interesting fact, Aznvaliance was the first to vote for TranceStorm (lynch)
and now he's again the first to vote for SoleSteeler
BTW : Since when is SoleSteeler a top suspect?
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On April 10 2008 23:40 MasterOfChaos wrote:
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On April 10 2008 23:32 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 10 2008 23:19 Plexa wrote:
I'd also like to propose that smurfingchobo is mafia, consider that and tell me what you think
Also consider Siefu as Joe
Also, investigate SoMuchBetter and LoStYouRSkiLLS

Joe=siefu? i tho he was Enigma? its either Siefu or MasterOfChaos I can't see anyone else being Enigma

Could you explain how enigma is linked to me?

I hope Ace still has the "araav" hostmask, because then we can see if he was fake (or he tried to look like a fake)

Same reason I brought against siefu look @ page 201
the only difference between the 2 of you is for siefu its related to his quote and you on ur name

PS: I love how all the inactive player always came out of nowhere when they are accused but never say a word during the whole game
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#4026
On April 11 2008 00:44 LTT wrote:
I think there might be a problem with the 12 idea. We only have 2 occurances and the first one was miscounted. There are a total of 15 knives on Day 2.

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Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.


2 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 15

There were 3 knives in EACH of his legs, for a total of 6 knives in his legs.

But thats not the point , what you have to count is all the numbers written 2+4+3+3 = 12
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#4035
I found something funny in the first pages ( I was looking @ what were Vharox's account )
-Chezinu + Vharox

reason : he could be the jack telling stuff to ace but telling who have which role to the mafia (which is unlikly cause Chuiu would not have let that happen)

And chezinu turned out to be a townie.

The thing I found is that, Queasy was active in the beginning and made accusation
he accused useless and omfghi2u2 of being mafia
So either he was accusing his partner or he was trying to lynch innocent townie
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On April 11 2008 01:33 Naib wrote:
Release that name Ace, him and useLess seem to be very worthy of lynching. And too bad luck with the d.arkive thing..it was a clever ploy from the Mafia to use the inactive Jack, and cover one of themselves as Jack (or just pure luck, but it did turn good out for them after you revealed 1 Jack is inactive - and they used it a smart way, so props to whoever thought that up!)

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p.s.: if you don't release the name we're still in trouble with inactives, I fail to see how that would change anything
p.p.s.: props to you Chuiu for still maintaining us whole whiny bunch, while withholding your pain! You clearly deserve more credit for this than what you get. I hope it's getting better.

I agree , you should release the name
But L should be lynched not useless
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I discovered another thing threw all the post (well i was looking @ vote count from previous day) and someone said ty to L to have found that picture of Ghar (which made him lynched) so I hope L Will Be Lynched today, theres enough proff against him and strong one (refer to plexa's post : 12 letters)
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On April 11 2008 02:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Im like the only dead green lol, WTF WHO IS LOUIS?!

GL townies, plexa looks like he got this in the bag.

false statement, most of the kill turned to be blue because they are bodyguards otherwise they would be green
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On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims


I think we werent looking @ the good thing about this caractere, this might look weird @ first but i think it could be true. What we are looking here is about some sort of * DeathMatch *.
Explanation : Deathmatch is known to have items that u grab and hold+time limt,etc(everyone know what a death match is)

-JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat
-JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now
-"there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick"
-JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him

I'm pretty sure that this scene lead to a deathmatch.
My suspect:
Well I saw in a profile Quakeworld and wasnt really sure of what it is, so I did a little research and apparently its some kind of deathmatch which fit exactly what I was looking for.
So My quess is that Spoinka is Copperhead or Mr.Black

he's Mr.Black more than Copperhead I guess

All that is only possible if quakeworld really have a deathmatch (didnt really done any big research about that game)
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On April 11 2008 04:05 MTF wrote:
So after a few hours of off and on searching through every profile twice, I've come up with depressingly few links.

Lysithea: Possibly Mr. Pink

- Signature quote is from Ali, boxer and certainly able fighter.
- [color=red]Doesn't fit with the quiet clue, however.[/color]

JimTudor: Possibly Mr. Blonde

- Name is linked to a hockey player.

I guess I'll be voting to lynch L and useless.

Im pretty sure useless is innocent
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On April 11 2008 04:27 Ace wrote:
If you haven't realized by now I am holding all the cards - the whole point of me not telling you guys certain info publicly is so that Mafia don't know who was really revealed innocent (thereby wasting killing power).

Everyone that was in communication knew I thought Ghar was innocent. I only listed him as suspect #2 so people could THINK I thought he was mafia.

Just because I don't tell YOU anything it doesn't mean I don't know whats going on.

I let the town do as they please after the wurm incident because of people like you, constant bitching. Even when townies act stupid and we give good reason to lynch them there's always an asshat like you complaining. I had nothing to do with Trancestorm dying, I had nothing to do with the Vigis killing Chezinu, and I had no way of knowing we'd have a fake jack because if people are inactive I can't do shit about it.

And since dead people can't post, I'm forever voting qrs to be lycnhed in the hopes that he dies and shuts the fuck up.

atm, you are digging yourself a grave,
you arent doing anything good for the town,
Theres a problem with the information provided by your jack but you doesnt say his name
you manage to waste a lynch on a medic cuz he wasnt doing what u wanted
now u want to lynch qrs cuz he said u were bad for the town?
How good of a mayor do you think you are atm honestly?
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On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:
[+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.
Traits
- Recurring idea of being unable to call for help
--- This could be a pivotal clue

I think what we are searching here is related to an animal.
Here are my first suspect
-Evilmonkey
-Decafchicken

The most obvious atm is evilmonkey since he's on both list having 1 mafioso but i would not jump to the conclusion that he's one.

I put in Bold the important words
Once again I could be wrong its just my interpretation of the clues
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On April 11 2008 05:27 L wrote:
Well, the rest of the town won't really listen to me sticking up for myself, but here's a brief overview:

Heroes cannot add properly. The 12 clue would be a pretty solid find, I suppose, but sadly it doesn't exist. None of the number combinations add to 12 unless you make a mistake. If our jack comes back and you want to waste one of his dt turns, feel free to ask him if the knives/number/cottonmouth in general is related to me.

And knifes, throwing, and nails have nothing to do with me. Blades, sharp objects, throwing can all be linked to a variety of people, and yet not to me.

Even the cottonmouth moniker is geographically distinct from me.
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Agkistrodon piscivorus is a venomous pitviper species found in the eastern United States.


Sidewinder is a snake which inhabits the US. Queasy was from the US. Are snakes geographically sensitive? Taipan snake says no, Queasy says yes. Maybe not all snakes are geographically sensitive, but if cottonmouth is, it can't be me.

Taipan snake's 'clue' seems more to be this:
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A taipan is a large, fast, highly venomous Australian snake. One species, the inland taipan, has the most toxic venom of any land species worldwide, although it is not the most deadly.
. Basically its a hint that he's the most 'deadly' of the mafia, being a suicide bomber and all. In that respect, snakes could hold clues, but morphologic clues as well as geographic clues. Either way, cottonmouth doesn't fit me.

I'm so certain of this that I'll link you to both cottonmouth pages on wikipedia so that you can see for yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix_mokasen

PS. I'm sorry I actually did work and found clues on Ghar while 3/4ths of the town was deadset convinced he was a mafia member. I guess activity is bad news when you try and make it productive.

hum tell me how does it not make 12 in both cases
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On April 11 2008 05:33 L wrote:
Just a note: I thought heroes did the counting, he didn't. Was plexa.

And are you suggesting that a monkey or chicken would cut phone wires?

Plexa did count correctly
in the first case we have 2 + 4 + 3 + 3 = 12
in the second case we have 5 + 6 + 1 = 12
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On April 11 2008 05:37 L wrote:
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On April 11 2008 00:44 LTT wrote:
I think there might be a problem with the 12 idea. We only have 2 occurances and the first one was miscounted. There are a total of 15 knives on Day 2.

Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.


2 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 15

There were 3 knives in EACH of his legs, for a total of 6 knives in his legs.


read what i answered to that and heres ur explanation
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On April 11 2008 05:39 L wrote:
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On April 11 2008 01:01 LTT wrote:
On April 11 2008 00:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 11 2008 00:44 LTT wrote:
I think there might be a problem with the 12 idea. We only have 2 occurances and the first one was miscounted. There are a total of 15 knives on Day 2.

Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.


2 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 15

There were 3 knives in EACH of his legs, for a total of 6 knives in his legs.

But thats not the point , what you have to count is all the numbers written 2+4+3+3 = 12


If that is the case, then Day 4 doesn't add up to 12.

Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.


Adding all the nails, you get
5 + 1 + 6 + 3 + 1 = 16

Adding just the numbers, you get
5 + 6 + 3 = 14

I'm starting to think 12 is really a stretch.



You never disproved this :/. Honestly, you forget to count the second group of 3 knives in the legs, and your workaround makes 12 dissapear from the other post.

Ok Ill explain it one last time
First case : two knives + four more knived + three knives into each of his legs + three in his back. =12

We doesnt care about the 3 in each the important thing in this senario is the number

Second case : five nails + a (one) nail + six more nails =12
the was about to throw another nail is like the 3 in each legs from senario one its just to make this clue harder to find.
Hope you have a good defense against that mister L
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On April 11 2008 05:48 L wrote:
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He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway
The number you skipped is staring you in the face. If you add the a nail being one, now the number is 15.

HE DODGED the 3 nails once again. same explanation as other number refused in the count
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#4065
On April 11 2008 05:55 useLess wrote:
Seriously, getting all 4 medics in 5 days cant be luck or chance.

u probably mean detective
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wtf
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On April 11 2008 09:22 fusionsdf wrote:
L is the 12th letter

its a stupid clue to follow anyways, cause you might as well just suspect wizard, since he is 12th in the player list.


If L is mafia how do fuck do you make clues towards him then?
No quote, name mean nothing
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On April 11 2008 09:40 L wrote:
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If L is mafia how do fuck do you make clues towards him then?
No quote, name mean nothing
Posting behavior, blog posts, name, anything's up for grabs.

Additionally, chuiu uses wikipedia for quite a few of his clues, so looking at the history of the letter L in wikipedia shows

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The letter L is derived ultimately from the Semitic crook or goad which stood for /l/. This originally may have been based on an Egyptian hieroglyph that was adapted by Semites for alphabetic purposes. The Greek letter Lambda Λ (upper case) or λ (lower case), as well as the equivalent Etruscan and Latin letters, represent the same sound as the Semitic letter. In reference, it is spelled el or ell.
Crook, Lambda, excessive el, or ell sounds would all point to me. From Crook you can go to shepards/crime. From lambda you can go to wavelength or something similar.

You could also use when I joined, where i live, etc. We've already been over those, Cottonmouth doesn't connect to me on any ground besides some made up number game.

Again, i'll flat out ask that the jack check me. If you really think i'm mafia, that's cool. I'd just rather not have the town go and lynch another innocent member because you're trying your best to 'spice things up', as you put it.

Edit: Shallow looks innocent now .


By the way just for your information, Plexa asked us (townie) to find something with the number 12 + plexa is 2/2 @ finding mafia atm, I just did what plexa wanted us , feel free to call me retard again I dont really care but its not helping ur case. Im not trying to lynch innocent townie nor trying to spice things up, I dont thing the town can waste another lynch
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On April 11 2008 10:01 qrs wrote:
After thinking over the evidence, I'm going to vote for suresh0t. I think he's the Wolf. Here are my reasons:

1) We don't know a whole lot about the Wolf, but one thing seems to be clear: he hits his targets (sure shot). Of course the most blatant example of that is:
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The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
That's the only one I would regard as a strong clue, but looking at the other times we've met the Wolf, they check out as well:
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The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

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He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. Nothing around, Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull. note: King Brown Snake gets in Chuiu's way, but the attack is from the Wolf
Neither Chuiu nor Caller can dodge the Wolf's attack. (The other mafia missed plenty, and sometimes the victims survive for a while.) As I said, though, it's the first quote which really stands out. A nail thrown down the hall, killing instantly? I mean, come on, if that's not a sure shot, than nothing is.

2) His posts? Pretty bland. His votes: goes with the bandwagon or abstains. Not proof of anything on its own, but certainly what I would consider consistent with a mafioso trying to lie low.

3) For what it's worth, he's on the Mandalor list.

4) This is the clincher. We've all been wondering about those nails, right? Check out what suresh0t is holding in his profile pic:
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That's right. A hammer.

Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird.
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On April 11 2008 10:20 qrs wrote:
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On April 11 2008 10:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird.

Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that.

I have no problem with lynching Suresh0t instead of L for this day, but we can't let this clue go even if theres poeple who doesnt agree with it + he's on the list of potential mafia (10/37)
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On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote:
^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there.

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On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote:
On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
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We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.

As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless".


Ok 3rd time i will post this.

Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at.

See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD!

I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at.

(original post)
It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.)
I'll cast my second vote for fusion.

They were from New104 who turned out to be a DT , lets hope ace told us the truth
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On April 11 2008 11:20 qrs wrote:
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On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me and chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia
Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information.

True and you (fusion) really likes number (%)
Here's mine for you you have 1/2 chances of being a mafioso which mean 50% which is better than any % you have found yet
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We should not waste a lynch on fusionsdf atm
Reason: theres no clue towards him, and both useless and azn seems to be regular townie
I would pay more attention the Alventine,Imderek, and evilmonkey(my pick)
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Eddie is LostYourSkills , its pretty obvious
Luck is mentionned in the first day or so and then its becoming an habit

Also : the player that I'm trying to fit to a caractere atm is artanis[xp] pretty sure he's mafia
Reason : he got roleblocked? wtf? why him he doesnt even post? + his name (artanis) could possibly be linked to a mafioso
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I dunno but it could be done now since its pretty obvious who will be lynched
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On April 11 2008 22:13 Camlito wrote:
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On April 11 2008 22:09 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
nice nice, the game is alive again! nice analysis by plexa...sorry for not posting much but i've been very busy whit RL stuff, but im always checking the thread and reading the las 2-3 pages. i dont know if you rolechecked ninja...but he's still my 1st suspect :p


Considering how much work ive put into finding california mountain snake, i've come up with shit all...


all i found besides ninja4ever was infundibilum who has a hat and a spinny thing (which was used to cut off the head of someone), but he seems scandinavian, and california mountain snake bowed. So our best bet is ninja4ever. (How ever obvious that seems).

I just did a quick research and I remember having seen gent in a profile
I would put amber[light] as a suspect to california mountain snake before ninja4ever

Important words : bowed / peered
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On April 12 2008 00:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I think the mafia member is imderek...

Hamlet quote, Sword fight in Hamlet. I don't believe he's posted much...but has been voting. The story of Hamlet revolves around change, treachery, murder.
"We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership"

still Eddie isnt Imderek and its Eddie who says that if i recall correctly
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On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".
Traits
- Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ
- Perhaps a team player (supportive)
- Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue)

Update on who can be Joe, at first I tho he was Zeks for the *with great power, comes great responsabilities*
But I found another thing
DTDominion : Dominion : Control or the exercise of control (put in bold what could be related to him)
Well for me Joe is either Zeks or DTDominion
EDIT : we can also add Grandim to the suspect list
Grand : Of a solemn, stately, or splendid nature. (could be related to this caractere
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#4246
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

We have to find someone who's Causing horror and repugnance; frightful and shocking
rofl, i manage to find nothing on this except : So no fek (picture lol)
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#4248
well from the last list : i found something on dtdominion, Rowdierbob, so no fek + str could easly be related to a mafioso

Im not sure if evilMonkey is mafia
My top suspect atm are LTT and L : reason they both are defending L (with suresh0t defending him aswell)
LTT could be Mr.Orange about all the screaming clues + L about the 12 clues
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April 12 2008 01:24 GMT
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Ok since Ace isnt helping the town, Im starting to believe he's mafia, he manage to kill a medic (wurm), now he's about to make a vigi kill on a jack but he isnt saying his name, and I could easly relate his name to a mafioso.

Im gonna put 2 names here of who Im about 99% sure they are innocent
-SonuvBob (first to accuse Queasy)
-Aznvaliance (first to accuse d.arkive)
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April 12 2008 01:48 GMT
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On April 12 2008 10:39 Camlito wrote:
....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor.

Im 100% sure Ace is innocent but, I dont get why he's not cooperating with 100% confirmed townie
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On April 12 2008 10:55 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 10:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 12 2008 10:39 Camlito wrote:
....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor.

Im 100% sure Ace is innocent but, I dont get why he's not cooperating with 100% confirmed townie


That make sense, but he may of talked to people who have been right already (Like plexa) and decided a while ago.

I have a good feeling about tonight, and if we see 2 red + Correct vigi hits...

I dont think that we will have 2 reds tonight, Evilmonkey's death is like transtorm death = hoping he's the mafia in the list but i have to say that I had found a weak clue against him. Now that clue I had against evilmonkey, switched to LTT.
and for Siefu theres 3 potential mafioso being his caractere. Why is he lynched tonight? because even Ace was suspecting him of being mafioso.
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nvm
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On April 12 2008 12:08 Ace wrote:
Ok here's what we know about last night for sure - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POST - REVISED

Mafia Kill List for Night 4

1.)Hittegods
2.)xDark.Carnivalx
3.)Lenwe (protected once) - Medic #1
4.)Lenwe
5.)Caller
6.)Meta

All of these were legit - now here's something interesting.

7.) Plexa (protected) Medic2
8.)Plexa (protected) Medic3
9.) Jack (I told him to put vet status on) took 1 hit
10.) Jack (protected) Medic 5

9+10 has to count as 1 action for this to be true.

This is the final kill list for Mafia last night.

wtf im stupid tonight
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April 12 2008 12:21 GMT
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Well at least we got one
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Joe = ulszz

Reason : in his quote he have * i need reminding*

Here's what he says in the text (joe) :

-(Eddie):We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner
(Joe) : You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!


-pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it
-I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something"
-he was supposed to kill you

Anyway this post will be forgetten in no time, like all my others.
But im 99% sure ulszz is Joe
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On April 12 2008 21:53 Ace wrote:
On another note along with clue finding the next order of business:

check posts that caused innocents to be lynched.

Looking through the thread and seeing who advocated to lynch Ghar and Trancestorm will help us a lot.

Likewise, looking to see who wanted to prevent EvilMonkey and Mandalor lynchings would be a good idea also.

L, called me a retard when I pointed out a clue towards EvilMonkey
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what do you think ace of my accusation against Ulszz, He doesnt seem to have pmed you his role nor voted often
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On April 12 2008 23:00 MTF wrote:
L led the way against Ghar, but it was a seemingly good clue. Eti307 supported him quite a bit and at the same time pointed the finger at ShadowDrgn. D.arkive also posted not too much later in support of L's finding, though this still does not prove L is guilty.

Plexa needs to tell us who sent him + Show Spoiler [this message.] +
Original Message:
hi!

i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning:

"All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time."

this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing.

now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits...

Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well.

furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly.

and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well.
.

Whoever it was, they were dedicated to Ghar taking the fall.

Looking into others...

I dont think Eti307 is mafia
Reason : iirc, he was part of the mafia last game and he never said anything. dunno why he would do such accusations if he was mafia
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On April 13 2008 01:53 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On April 13 2008 01:46 BlindAlbino wrote:
ah nice job guys, shame for siefu but he had lots of clue so dont know. Caller correct when he said red moon was evilmonkey, so gj to him way back.

not sure who I suspect anymore as most of my suspect are confirm innocent.


or maybe the list is false?

Seriously Amber is either a stupid townie or a mafia trying to either get Ace lynched or Araav + trying to fuck us with false statement.
and theres clues towards him too
Dunno why he's still trying to provoke the town with such stupid comment
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On April 13 2008 04:16 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On April 13 2008 03:55 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 13 2008 01:53 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On April 13 2008 01:46 BlindAlbino wrote:
ah nice job guys, shame for siefu but he had lots of clue so dont know. Caller correct when he said red moon was evilmonkey, so gj to him way back.

not sure who I suspect anymore as most of my suspect are confirm innocent.


or maybe the list is false?

Seriously Amber is either a stupid townie or a mafia trying to either get Ace lynched or Araav + trying to fuck us with false statement.
and theres clues towards him too
Dunno why he's still trying to provoke the town with such stupid comment


If that was an error by Chuiu he probably would have already came up to admit his mistake; however seeing as he hasn't I'm going to assume someone in this little 'inner circle' is lying. I'll put it out there I don't trust Ace I think it's too much of a coincidence that all but one of our detectives were assassinated quickly (more frequently than the others) and our last one was guaranteed to die because they used the suicide bomber on him. I'm in doubt of the 'fact analyzing' that's going on here. I've shut up for most of the game because I believe having a mayor around is a good idea early, but we're coming close to that point where we should evaluate our 'higher ups' and question their motives.

The town can't affort lynching Ace. Why? because he's the one providing the double lynch and vigi arent doing so good atm. So why even thinking about lynching ace? he already know everyone's role and he already provide the list to other mafia ( if he's one ).
PS: I really dont think ace would have bring more suspicion on him by killing all his dt in 4 days and theres still a Jack who can role check him. so it would be a big mistake, but once again we have other player to catch before even thinking about lynching Ace.
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On April 13 2008 04:55 L wrote:
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L, called me a retard when I pointed out a clue towards EvilMonkey
I called you a retard because you can't add. The fact that you thought that decaf was cutting wires specifically because of the thematic link to being an animal also didn't make sense.

As for evilmonkey being mafia or not, I'm pretty sure everyone was operating on very few clues + the dt list, much like we all were when we voted for trancestorm. I didn't defend him at all, I just thought that your reasoning was kinda weak and totally didn't fit. Ie. Decaf shouldn't be under suspicion because of the animal/wire link, but that's kinda obvious now due to monkey being mafia, that's all.

And yeah, i've been meaning to ask you. You post quite a bit, but you edit a large amount of your posts. I've seen a few of the uneditted versions, and they all seem to be like 20 line analysis which are fairly decent, but then i go to check where you go the information from, and the post is gone by the time i get back. More importantly, the timestamps on your edits are actually after successive posts, which means you posted something, double posted in certain cases, then went back and editted both posts for some reason.

most specifically, pages 213 and 214, which comprise like your 7 most recent posts before the night post by chuiu.

I'm not going to say this means you're mafia, because i'm pretty sure that dt evidence + clues are far more important, but like.. why would you edit such a massive amount of information out of your posts?

Im never removing information from my edit : I have already pointed out in this thread that english isnt my first language, so my edit are mostly to correct grammar
Edit : put thread instead of channel
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On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)


At first I was Searching for someone who was causing shock, repugnance. (So no Fek)
But one word just retain my attention : Idle
Why using such a useless word.

So I remember seeing something about lazyness in a quote
It was from ieatkids5
Quote : Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.
We doesnt have really much information about Snake Charmer atm, but i would say its a stronger clue than all the others I have brought yet.

Edit : I just realise that his name could provoke shock and repugnance
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On April 13 2008 11:02 L wrote:
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Im never removing information from my edit : I have already pointed out in this thread that english isnt my first language, so my edit are mostly to correct grammar
Edit : put thread instead of channel


Well, i did see you take away a big chunk of information from one of the posts at least, no disputing that, but i guess the grammar issue is fine. I normally edit a lot of my posts for grammar too, but i didn't in this thread on purpose. There's a few in my last post that i didn't want to get rid of, for example. Thanks for clearing that up.

As for snake charmer, I was going to suggest that the following set of thematics links to him:

-Swords/blades/cutting in general (mentioned both as per his weaponry, and as per his gashes)
-His attacks were relentless, so either he really like death, is a dark character, or he is motivated
-His attacks were gruesome, so either his cuts were powerful, or they had a sinister 'dark' quality to them.

MidnightGladius fits both sections (Dark + Sword), but the 'dark' really does connect with ieatkids. I guess another clue would help

There's 2 post i removed everything i wrote because :
it was useless information, and im no longer going to argue with Ace and the other is because i understood by myself what I was asking :p

Dont forgot the word Idle, Im pretty sure its the most important word in all the sentence we have of Snake Charmer.
MidnightGladius is suspected since the beginning of this mafia game, but the problem with him is that he could fit almost all the caractere pretty easly, thats why I did say he's innocent. Just my point of view
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#4350
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).

Clues arent that obvious

Edit : Does are the clues that make the town lynch innocent townie

Thats why i would not kill/lynch Lostyourskills atm
yes the lucky kick stopped but he(chuiu) would not use the word lucky if it was a clue related to lostyourskills its too much obvious.
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April 13 2008 02:44 GMT
#4354
What would really help atm is to find who EvilMonkey really is (caracter)

Update#1 : I seriously think Mr.Pink = EvilMonkey
Reason : just a feeling
edit #2 : Ill explain only if poeple wanna know why
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April 13 2008 03:34 GMT
#4358
I think Mr. Red = Spoinka
Reason : it seems like he can't stand on his legs, always falling down
Here's my found i made last week but could not do anything about that

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Spoink
Edit : go see by yourself
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Before tonight ill do a recapitulation of all the clues I have found / made that could help the town after tonight (look @ what happened to plexa last night after he brought clues (targetted twice))

I hope that you (plexa) will try to work with your interpretations + mine and try to catch mafia
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#4363
On April 13 2008 12:42 0cz3c wrote:
Pink, when you seached, did you search for Spoinka and got Spoink (a pokemon, ^_^), or did you search for Spoink (and cut off the 'a'.).

There might be a ton of Pokemon references that Chuiu might have made that have been overlooked, but this would only be the case if you searched for Spoinka.

(I just seached "Spoinka" in Google, and the first two pages only showed usernames with Spoinka).

yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs :p
btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet)
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On April 13 2008 12:56 Camlito wrote:
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On April 13 2008 12:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 13 2008 12:42 0cz3c wrote:
Pink, when you seached, did you search for Spoinka and got Spoink (a pokemon, ^_^), or did you search for Spoink (and cut off the 'a'.).

There might be a ton of Pokemon references that Chuiu might have made that have been overlooked, but this would only be the case if you searched for Spoinka.

(I just seached "Spoinka" in Google, and the first two pages only showed usernames with Spoinka).

yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs :p
btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet)


Artanis is a protoss hero in the campaign... don't know any other reasons.

HIgh ranked leader + a praetor
EDIT : I remember fusion speaking about army and accusing generalstan
praetor : the commander of an army
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#4368
On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names

Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed
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On April 13 2008 13:08 Plexa wrote:
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On April 13 2008 13:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names

Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed
And thats great

I can't see any obvious name connections to Mr Red... however the name DamageControl stuck out at me =/ i don't know why

Rofl i was just about posting something about DamageControl Being
Black mamba

Reason : words such as Ease , Recover, stumbled all about controlling damage ( or not : stumbled)
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On April 13 2008 13:40 L wrote:
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I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched
Intentional pun? If so, 5/5.

For Mr Red, until we get more clues, there's only Dr.Dragoon due to falling = how dragoons deal damage in rpg games.

And sonuvbob's retarded chocobo picture + the red blood of his nazgul pierced friend.

Both seem pretty meh, but that's what I found while looking.

Just for this quote i did say that both Ieatkids5 and spoinka are mafia and L too
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#4390
On April 14 2008 00:40 Plexa wrote:
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On April 14 2008 00:12 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
This thread has gotten so much better over the past few days. No more useless spam like before
unless you call my various fights with people like fusionsdf spam

On a more serious note, here are my suspects:
---- HIGH----
SoMuchBetter - Californian Mountain Snake
Jimtudor - Mr Red
Lysithea - Moon clue



---MEDIUM------
nemY - Faces meeting
Naib - Enigma/Joe (name translates as Viceroy)
zeks - quote
ieatkids5
SoleSteeler
GeneralStan
suresh0t
Ninja4ever.

wow from this post I could say I'm not interpreting the clue the same way lol
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April 13 2008 16:18 GMT
#4393
Just pointing out that Mr . Blonde isnt EvilMonkey But DTDominion
Reason : always coming out of nowhere and guess what a DT always came out of nowhere
He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde reference to a dt again
+ like plexa pointed out , he always get close to his enemy same as a DT
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On April 14 2008 04:02 MTF wrote:

4. Ziel

German or Dutch. German translation includes aim, designation, destination, end, object and target. Dutch translation is soul.

If that is true, I think he could replace SureSh0t as a suspect
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#4419
Why Ziel is The Wolf and not Suresh0t

Ziel : German translation includes aim, designation, destination, end, object and target

-Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.
This include everything on the definition

-You just need to hit the right spot
Good aim

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April 14 2008 00:50 GMT
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god so long before the day post, I can't wait to see if I'm dead
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On April 14 2008 10:33 fusionsdf wrote:
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On April 14 2008 09:50 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
god so long before the day post, I can't wait to see if I'm dead


spend your time reading my mafia blog!

http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69426

Well im watching montreal vs boston and the game is fucking boring
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April 14 2008 16:43 GMT
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Like I already said I'm pretty sure suresh0t is innocent but that Ziel is the mafioso about all the aim clues
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#4488
On April 14 2008 20:08 MTF wrote:
Just throwing it out there, particularly because the day 1 post mentioned the "right mayor" being elected and randombum also being on the Mandalor list.

Hum that clue was pointing towards Mandalor, im not trying to say randombum is innocent but that clue isnt against him
Reason : Mandalor : when the current leader, usually referred to as 'Mandalore', dies, the next high ranking member succeeds him in the event he has not hand picked a new one to take his place

Posting that but i dunno if someone corrected him before me.
PS: ur doing a good job atm keep going
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April 14 2008 21:14 GMT
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SmurfingChobo could aslo be Mr.Blonde
he was coming out of nowhere in the beginning and was always like *beating everyone without much difficulty*
and in the second part he was becoming a chobo, not knowing what to do, and wasnt doing good in the fight
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#4493
On April 15 2008 06:32 MTF wrote:
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On April 15 2008 06:30 MidnightGladius wrote:
I'm really anticipating what you're going to say when I come up green, MTF


Well, if you do it's gonna be confusing as all hell.

But, we'll see. :p

Since plexa said it was either you or midnightGladius (one is mafia) and that (i personnaly believe that midnightgladius is innocent but still could be wrong)
Also the fact that you brought more clues than him helped your case and ace will probably send a vigi on midnightgladius. So I hope he turns out red for you.
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April 14 2008 22:18 GMT
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On April 15 2008 07:08 0cz3c wrote:
Sureshot, that's really not helping the town by saying that you predict he's just going to turn up green. It would be much more helpful in explaining how ALL the many references to him are wrong. He doesn't even say that he's not mafia. He's just alluding to being green, which any smart mafia would do. Although I'm not saying that I think he's 100% mafia, you should not just say, "I predict he's green. And he's going to die." That's really not helpful.

It would be useless to defend someone who's goign to die tonight about 80% sure
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On April 15 2008 07:13 MidnightGladius wrote:
Fine, I'll come out and say it, if it makes any difference to you: I'm green.

For the record, I also disagree with a lot of MTF's clue reasonings (unsound =/= lack of sound), but I don't think he's mafia, and I won't until someone explains to me why Plexa singled the two of us out.

he probably can't say it
reason : going to give to much information to the mafia
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#4505
On April 15 2008 07:31 suresh0t wrote:
I also missed why it's either MTF or Gladius...does that mean if Gladius is green we have to lynch MTF?

like I said on the previous page, ace probably can't tell that atm , wait until the end of the game , like other regular townie
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On April 15 2008 07:38 MidnightGladius wrote:
I'm only working with the conditions I'm given - that one of the two of us is mafia (still don't know why, but I'm running on trust here), and that I'm not. To me, you have to be mafia, or Plexa is wrong; I'm sure the same applies to your posting perspective.

Since the town seems convinced that the clues point to me, I concede my death. I'm satisfied in knowing that you won't outlive me long, and that there'll be at least one less mafia before Night 6.

Of course, assuming Plexa's not wrong.

I hope you end up being green , because you are defending yourself for no reason if ur mafia since u probably already been hit by a vigi
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On April 15 2008 08:09 MidnightGladius wrote:
Yep, I can't wait to see how I die

Me too, I can't wait to see how I die,
I hope you wont get vigi-killed because i think it would be a waste.
Well if u are innocent I would be right, next to see if i was right is suresh0t, I hope he turns out innocent but I dont think tonight is his night (except if mafia kill him , but it would be a stupid move)
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I think UnsoundLogic could really be Mr.Pink (dunno if i said it earlier just popped to my head at this exact moment )
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April 15 2008 00:43 GMT
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Ok , I found who Mr . Black is
Il reveal his name after my post
Text for Mr.Black
Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

Move to front + the smashed window(picture) makes me believe that + Show Spoiler +
MTF is indeed Mr . Black
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On April 15 2008 09:54 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2008 09:43 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Ok , I found who Mr . Black is
Il reveal his name after my post
Text for Mr.Black
Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

Move to front + the smashed window makes me believe that + Show Spoiler +
MTF is indeed Mr . Black


o_O

Anddd I'm pinning the hell out of Mafia because...?

Im not gonna argue with you about what you are doing in this thread. like I have been doing the past 3-4 days im just pointing out who could be who because im pretty sure Im dead tonight
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On April 15 2008 09:59 NatsuTerran wrote:
Heros)Pink omg you are the worst clue interpreter evar!!! However that post does bring attention to the "You can pick death by knife or whatever's in my pocket" Sounds awefully like that Peter Griffin quote that somebody else has as a sig......

that clue is related to copperhead not Mr . Black
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On April 15 2008 10:10 NatsuTerran wrote:
Yea which seems very likely to be 03czc or whatever his name is.

You saying MTF is mafia because of MTF is an acronym for "move to front" is just plain ridiculous..
Edit: Nevermind just saw MTF's picture,sorry!......be more clear!!

yeah I should have wrote (picture) next to smashed windows
Here's another clue against MTF
* Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window *
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On April 15 2008 10:28 0cz3c wrote:
Erm, wasn't that clue meant to point towards Quesy?

they could point towards both, like what chuiu did last mafia game,
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anyway lets see what happen tonight with Midnightgladius before doing anything
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April 15 2008 02:24 GMT
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so from that i can guess midnightgladius is green
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On April 15 2008 11:36 MTF wrote:
Random note about Joe - he acts when people try to leave/have their backs turned.

See:

Show nested quote +
and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!".


Show nested quote +
said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead

I think Joe is Ulszz ( I have already said why in one of my previous post)
and this could be relate to his Quote :
Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding.
I know its a stretch
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On April 15 2008 23:01 Plexa wrote:
Id just like to say that i support MTF's findings for the following mafia;

Eddie as LostYourSkills
MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer
Crazie-Penguin as King Brown Snake
0cz3c as Copperhead
And JimTudor as mafia, although not necessarily Mr Blonde

what about blindalbino?
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On April 16 2008 03:32 Naib wrote:
Wow, I feel like a dumbass for missing that Black Mamba "felt his way up". The toll of being a non-native speaker of the language, eh. I totally imagined that situation differently as I read it through, but now MTF and Plexa convinced me about BlindAlbino being Mafia (I pray to God that this time we're correct though...we can't afford to waste many more lynches, especially since Ace is roleblocked again). We should also nail that Sabouteur. I suspect, unlike d.arkive (the other special Mafia role) he's a silent lurker, without posting in the thread, and (intentionally) missing (not sure here!) votes sometimes. Should look at those people more closely - but ofc nailing sure Mafia is more important than running after the trail of the Saboteur.

edit: Grammar (added "also" into the Saboteur sentence )

I think MTF is the saboteur but thats just a feeling
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April 15 2008 20:12 GMT
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On April 16 2008 04:40 suresh0t wrote:
Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc.

I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent.

I think MTF is the saboteur because its like 80% sure he's mafia and since plexa said its either midnightgladius or MTF mafia (100% sure) then he had to do something to pretect himself.
He brought exellent clues (ex:blindalbino) and im probably sure he did that to protect himself.
Because if midnightGladius turns out green then he's mafia but now he's usefull to the town so he might not be the first to be lynched and it would give the Mafia some precious time.

Why would they try to slow the game by sacrificing some useless mafia? Well first, we doesnt have DT anymore, our vigis kills are really bad, and Ace is roleblocked 1/2 circle, so we mostly have 1 killing power per day.

I think they will sacrifice mafia until all bgs die and they will be able to kill ace, so now MTF will be useless to them.
After that they will be in a really good position to win this game.

All that is possible only if midnightgladius is green
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April 16 2008 01:40 GMT
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told you guys that midnight was green...
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so if Mr. Blue is still there, could we say that clues arent related to a specific character?
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so MTF, L , Smurfingchobo and unsoundlogic are all mafia?
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On April 16 2008 10:52 MTF wrote:
O, and I'm surprised as all hell that I'm alive tonight.

Me too
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On April 16 2008 11:03 fusionsdf wrote:
and they got 5/8 kills, which means the only wasted 3 on medics/veterans

pretty lame

or they put 2 hits on the same person
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Would be nice to hear from plexa and ace
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April 16 2008 02:21 GMT
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california mountain snake is LTT

quote from LTT's desc : We must be born with an intuition of mortality. Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only one direction, and time is its only measure."

from text : California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.
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On April 16 2008 16:10 Ace wrote:
actually, I knew I should have went with my gut instinct last week. I'm 99% sure Heros)Pink is mafia.

well if u accuse me, I can't really defend myself since theres no real clue towards me, but I could say something that you dont want to be known
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On April 17 2008 07:41 L wrote:
When i turn up blue, i suggest everyone take a good hard look at what happened here.

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If they post what good will that do?
Edit: When i turn up blue, it'll be the name of a mafia, or someone who screwed up. It also proves you aren't full of shit, because you're pretending you know where 5 hits went, and i'm 100% positive you don't, because I stopped one.

Go ahead and show proof that you know where all 5 came from. You can't.

its pretty obvious why he can't prove all mafia hits, they probably put 3 on decafchicken to make you look less guilty
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On April 17 2008 08:02 Ace wrote:
I'm about to be out of here for a sec but let's play a game.

L let's say we find a better candidate to lynch today and let you off the hook.

I'll publicly say that tonight we are only putting YOU on a target, a target like...Plexa.

If Plexa dies or you don't die we'd know your Mafia for sure and then lynch you tomorrow.

Deal?

This plan is bad , why? if plexa die we wont know for sure if they put 1 or 2 hit on plexa and if L isnt mafia , the mafia will try to kill Plexa so that we would waste a lynch on L the next day
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April 17 2008 00:28 GMT
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On April 17 2008 09:04 JeeJee wrote:
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On April 17 2008 05:33 Chuiu wrote:
I forgot to mention in day post:

If a player was killed and protected by a medic they will not be notified of being protected any longer. Just from reading the thread I can tell dead players are squealing after death and giving out information. Everyone who has done this or anyone I catch participating in the game after death will be banned from the next game no questions asked.


out of curiosity, will you enforce this rule? just wondering since uh, you didn't at all enforce your 'be active or get banned' rule. just curious.
edit: well apparently there was no consequence for not following the 'be active' rule, so technically you did enforce it. my bad.

I think pretty much everyone is active but some arent posting and missing vote due to either hide themselves or cause they were busy one week with school/work or anything personnal.
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April 17 2008 10:59 GMT
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On April 17 2008 17:12 Ace wrote:
I think it's better to kill L asap, and double lynch our other targets tomorrow.

@qrs: there's so much I have to take care of behind the scenes you've got no idea why things keep going wrong. I've literally had over 100 PMs about all kinds of stuff this game and it's not easy trying to decipher the liars from the innocent. Either way everything I've done so far has brought the town closer to victory. What exactly have you done besides criticize from day 1?

If enough people change their votes to crazie-penguin then let's lynch him, but before that can we find even stronger clues to him, or at least another suspect if we are going to leave L alive?

I do agree with you , why? if L turns out to be mafia and since he's one of the player having the most poeple defending him he could be the saboteur

The thing you explained about having 7/7 confirmed + L claiming to be a dt but failed to save someone yet.

when empyrean died mafia probably put 2 hits on him to make it look less suspicious
When plexa got hit 2 times I guess L was in the the medic defending him so they put 2 hits on him(but in this case there were 3 medics on him 2 legit , 1 false)

And finally about the decaf situation they probably put 2 hits on him too for the same reason.

So I guess for all those who are defending L you arent reading the thread or you are mafia trying to defend another mafia.


EDIT : If we let L alive , tonight the mafia wont kill him for sure even if he's medic,
Why? because we will lynch him the next day so they wont waste a kill on him. so we are better killing him now then later.
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On April 18 2008 06:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Is the medic still informed if he blocked a hit, even if the person hit isn't? (I know he isn't if he's killed, but is the medic still informed in that situation?)

well its kinda obvious, dont you think?
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On April 19 2008 08:42 nemY wrote:
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On April 18 2008 17:59 MTF wrote:
People from the/my (not sure which to call it here) top suspects list that are also on the Mandalor list:

ieatkids5
0cz3c
Ninja4ever.
suresh0t
L


Other general personal suspects on the Mandalor list:

unsoundlogic (if L comes up innocent, as unsound is on the TranceStorm list as well and I like him as Mr. Orange)
Clazziquai
Unforgiven_ve
Jimtudor
nemY
GeneralStan



Remove me please? Unless you have some super evidence that incriminates me.

Are you even following the thread to ask that question? and why the fuck do you have to ask to be remove of the list if u are innocent? you will be removed when everything will be 100% sure
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On May 06 2008 00:02 qrs wrote:
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On May 05 2008 11:51 Plexa wrote:
On May 05 2008 03:20 Scorch wrote:
On May 04 2008 22:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 04 2008 21:59 qrs wrote:
What is this "controversial list"?
oh it basically means that..
+ Show Spoiler [innocent] +
Pangolin
Naib
BWDero
SoleSteeler
(Last Romantic)
(Zeks)
Ahrara
0cz3c
and+ Show Spoiler [mafia] +

One of;
LostYourSkills vs Lysithea
STR vs NatsuTerran vs LTT

And increases the likelihood of
GeneralStan
Nightmare
infinity21

being mafia


Huh? Where does this come from? I'd like to know how you pull such deductions out of your hat.
If i revealed it i would be laughed at pm me if you are really curious

You can't expect us to take your list seriously if you don't tell us what it's about. If the reason you don't post it is that you would be laughed at, it sounds like it's pretty shaky evidence.

who are you to fucking doubt plexa at this stage of the game?
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I would lynch jtan and nightmare before anyone else at this point
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ok jtan should be lynched next day, he's acting like a mafioso, its just to much obvious
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joe is unforgiven like 95% sure everything fits perfectly with that character
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i would rather see artanis or Lysithea lynched before damagecontrol but I do believe you (unforgiven) is mafia
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On May 14 2008 05:55 suresh0t wrote:
What's with everyone on the cutting block telling people to lynch me instead of them, how have I offended you all!!!! <3 <3

Probably the only way they can find to get one more day to live cuz they can't really argue about the clues towards them
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On May 14 2008 09:05 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
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On May 14 2008 06:44 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On May 14 2008 05:55 suresh0t wrote:
What's with everyone on the cutting block telling people to lynch me instead of them, how have I offended you all!!!! <3 <3

Probably the only way they can find to get one more day to live cuz they can't really argue about the clues towards them


i can argue about the "clues towards me" but i think you are just so blind about plexa's lucky hits, and cant understand there more strongers suspects right now whit HIGH chance of being mafia

Could you explain please?

PS:please tell me who's a bigger suspect than you atm.
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On May 15 2008 02:59 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
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On May 14 2008 20:51 Plexa wrote:
On May 14 2008 03:43 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
to be honest i dont think DamageControl is mafia...so you'll be seeing 2 townies die today.

i will be posting my suspect list soon, im sure 2 or 3 are mafia

edit: i just dont see why you have to put me ahead of ninja4ever, suresh0t or nightmare
On May 14 2008 03:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and and ninja4ever

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yeah, i vote for DamageControl because of you! i want the best for the town cuz im not a fuckfguhf mafia!!

You are still going to be lynched no matter who you are voting for.-
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On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.

cuz since he's almost 100% red, we should wait until plexa get killed
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Can someone find me a player related to Baseball, probably a pitcher or catcher. It would be thx
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On May 15 2008 07:53 nemY wrote:
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On May 15 2008 05:53 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.

cuz since he's almost 100% red, we should wait until plexa get killed


I'd rather lower the killing power and get two "for sure" mafia's, thus decreasing the possibility of anyone (including Plexa) getting killed.

still we have good chances tonight to see double red
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On May 15 2008 10:56 Plexa wrote:
The fact that everyone is voting DamageControl is rather worrying =/ he may actually turn up green

Well im not even voting for him but he can probably be red and since damagecontrol is a top suspect for 2 days or so, mafia knew he would get lynched today so they are all voting for him.
Same case about L , we replaced L by evilmonkey but they didnt even complain because he was probably more useless than L to them. So i guess they prefer losing damagecontrol than someone useful.
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On May 15 2008 11:08 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
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On May 15 2008 10:56 Plexa wrote:
The fact that everyone is voting DamageControl is rather worrying =/ he may actually turn up green


lol wtf? wasnt he your PRIMARY suspect?!?!?!

but he's not on the mandalor's list which reduce is chances of being mafia
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On May 15 2008 11:29 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
you pink..YOU shall pay THIS DISRESPECT!!!!

i dont want to die, mafia is the only reason i come to TL everyday

then tell your mafia friends to kill me tomorrow
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On May 15 2008 07:45 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Can someone find me a player related to Baseball, probably a pitcher or catcher. It would be thx

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On May 16 2008 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Now I'm convinced. After my accusasions, Chuiu's only defense is a vulgar sentence. Let's lynch him tomorrow.

or you
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On May 16 2008 10:34 clazziquai wrote:
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On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.


Let's lynch nemY I'm 9000% sure he is mafia

lol gl with lynching nemy , you are 100% sure going to be lynched before nemy
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yay I was right in my voting
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On May 16 2008 15:00 araav wrote:
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On May 15 2008 10:56 Plexa wrote:
The fact that everyone is voting DamageControl is rather worrying =/ he may actually turn up green

why didn't you ask Randombum to pardon him?

because he was useless anyway and if randombum would have saved him, plexa would probably can't connect Mr.Black to anyone else than DamageControl, now he will probably find a substitute for Mr.Black when he will be back~.
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For god sake I can't believe we havnt found Mr. Pink, disturbing character but im pretty sure he's not nightmare
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May 16 2008 14:59 GMT
#5558
On May 16 2008 23:54 Scorch wrote:
If you don't think it's NightMare, you could look towards RowdierBob. His picture fits great, but unfortunately he's not on the Mandalor list.

well the obvious choice on the mandalor's list would be nemy if its not nightmare but he doesnt fit everything
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Last Edited: 2008-05-16 15:04:59
May 16 2008 15:00 GMT
#5559
ah fuck it ill show who Mr.Pink is

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BWdero


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-Derro appear to be degenerate dwarves, dwarflike humans, or some hybrid of the two. Their rough skin is white with bluish undertones and spotted with short tufts of coarse hair. Their hair is straight and tends to be tan or pale yellow. Their eyes are most disturbing, lacking visible pupils.

- The derro are a strange and sadistic race; furthermore, they are clever, stealthy, and murderously insane. It is very common for a derro to devote his or her self to some strange quest, such as collecting only certain types of gemstones for a magical device or slaying as many members of a particular race as possible.

"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

- Derro are clever

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

-clever

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

- Derro are similar to dwarf so they are short, when the townie fall down he met Mr.Pink

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

-Derro have long hair and they are also sadist person

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

- Derro are stealthy = quiet
- again sadism

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

-again...

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets.

-again related to point #2 of the descrption

Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.

-again...

Another evening in the town of Liquidia but still the town was not safe. The town struggled to discover the identities of the remaining mafia whilst they pick off the best of them one by one. And Mr. Pink was about to continue that. He continued his long term trend of torturing those before he killed them off and his victim this night was omfghi2u2. Crouched over a sleeping omfghi2u2 he affixed several electrodes all over his body then walked over to box he had setup on a table nearby. One by one he activated each electrode and soon omfghi2u2 was awake and screaming in pain. He continued turning up the voltage more and more throwing out every bit of juice the machine had. After a few seconds, or what seemed like an eternity to omfghi2u2, he lost all bodily function and ceased to live.

-Derro have mission, his is to keep killing townie (obvious)
-again...
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May 16 2008 15:52 GMT
#5562
On May 17 2008 00:29 Scorch wrote:
That's nice and all, but do you really think Chuiu would fit clues to a word that is only similar to a player's name? I don't even know how you stumbled upon "derro" instead of "dero". That's as if I connected your name to punk instead of pink.

I think chuiu could have made a clue with derro instead of dero since the pronounciation is the same, but i dont think something like punk/pink would have been used by chuiu
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May 16 2008 20:57 GMT
#5565
suresh0t isnt the wolf anyway stop pointing the finger at him, the one who's the wolf have 3 letters in his name
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May 17 2008 23:11 GMT
#5580
ok this is going to far, about the 3 letters mafia, i meant to say *I know who he's and he have 3 letters in his name.*
SureSh0t will be happy

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qrs = The wolf
Quote : It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious.

The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.

Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood,
Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head.

The Wolf had been tracking his target for quite some time. His target, GranDim, had been driving around all over town in a white van. When he finally stopped at a gas station to get gas The Wolf got in position for the kill. He silently waited for GranDim to fill up his gas and pay for it then ambushed him right before he got back in his van. GranDim and The Wolf got in fist fight and it was soon obvious who was better trained for it. The Wolf whittled GranDim down with every punch and eventually knocked him out on the door of the van. To finish him off The Wolf searched the van for some drugs and gave GranDim overdoses of everything he could find.
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May 20 2008 10:59 GMT
#5651
well , gl to plexa! keep going
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August 07 2008 14:44 GMT
#6931
On August 07 2008 06:50 Ninja4ever. wrote:
See guys, i wasn't mafia.
The good thing when you're suspect is that you're sure mafia won't lynch you. (You might be lynched yourself though, but that's another problem)

To ace : thats exactly what i was doing the whole game, since i had a role i wanted to stay alive and the best way to stay alive is to be suspected by the town so i was throwing false accusation and attacking you to stay alive <3

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