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Ok, 'since time is short I'll post the other two suspects I have finished reviewing. I probably won't be able to get them all, but I'll try updating one by one before day comes.
Once again, people on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk.
MidnightGladius*:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] + - Claims to have been on vacation between the 11th-15th. - Gives some decent analysis/summary of clues on this page. - Defended d.arkive with a list (later proved fake) - Presented the fake list again later to add innocents to another list. - Addressed BlindAlbino directly, agreed with him tenuously on Energies and asked for further discussion on suresh0t.
People Who Accuse MidnightGladius*:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +
- Shallow[Bay]
- Eti307
- Lysithea
- BWdero
- Hollander
- Plexa
- Nemy
0cz3c*:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
- Defended Caller, known innocent, then turned against him (along with many other people, including a now dead medic)
- Defended Ace.
- Defended Ace against BlindAlbino.
- Suggested investigating both Bumatlarge and Randombum on what turned out to be Queasy's clues.
- Complied and voted on Ghar in day 3, had no second vote.
- Accused Ninja4Ever.
- Defended Shallow three times.
last few pages, relevant to note because of recent events
- Responded to my post about his quote by expanding the knowledge of it; has yet to respond about the new clue.
- Supports MidnightGladius being lynched and challenges suresh0t to give reasoning rather than just say things.
- Kinda defends me by questioning a possible clue against me.
Well, look at that. One of my top suspects has a more positive posting history than the majority of townies. This indicates one of two things to me: he's a good, helpful townie or he's a smart mafia. Given the clue we have seemingly connecting him strongly to Copperhead, I'm going to lean towards smart mafia. However, I will concede that I am quite a bit less certain than before.
People Who Accused 0cz3c*:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +
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On April 16 2008 09:38 MidnightGladius wrote:
Wait, aren't I supposed to be Snake Charmer?
:p
Yes?
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On April 16 2008 09:47 MidnightGladius wrote:
Sorry MTF, I thought that last paragraph was directed to me, until I realized you would never say such nice things about me :D
Well, to give you credit, you made some helpful posts in the beginning and if the fake list being presented multiple times was done in well-meaning manner (which it could have been), then you could have been trying to expand the innocent list. You also made a post analyzing clues which was somewhat sizable, which is more than a lot of other people have done.
It's just that if it's down to you and me, I already know it's not me, and you have so much evidence against you that I'd still be thoroughly more convinced about you than 0cz3c.
We'll see how it all turns out soon enough.
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Clazziquai*:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
- Talks about wanting to really help the town early on, after claiming to be a mere townie.
- Questioned Ace's surety on Mandalor.
- Claims to have been gone between March 25th-27th
- Encouraged Ace to keep participating when everyone thought he left.
- Haha, called BlindAlbino the village idiot.
Note that BlindAlbino said that he was surprised that he wasn't caught earlier; perhaps mafia distanced themselves a little from him after they saw the obviousness of his clues, though there's nothing very solidly incriminating in his post record to link him to mafia.
People Who Accuse Clazziquai*:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +
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crazie-penguin{
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
- Responds to Clazziquai's calling BlindAlbino the village idiot, saying he's sure he (Blind) was just being sarcastic.
All other results are of minor assistance or just neutral (well, seeming town-sympathetic, but y'know) commentary on the day posts.
People Who Accuse crazie-penguin:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +
- Just me, though Plexa has since added a vote of support for my analysis of him.
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Ok, that's it for me. Already looked through BlindAlbino thanks to Plexa's much easier history. XD I will update my blog with all the new information I've made 'since and then await day.
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On April 16 2008 10:46 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
so if Mr. Blue is still there, could we say that clues arent related to a specific character?
No, that's silly. Queasy was most definitely connected to Sidewinder. Mr. Blue must not have been Mandalor, and I would like to reiterate the "right mayor" clue.
As for Gladius turning up green, first off: I'm sorry. You really seemed to have clues stacked up against you, but you did indeed turn up green.
To the town: I'm not going to defend myself the best way I can right now, I will only point out my posts and that BlindAlbino is indeed dead. Wait to hear from Ace and Plexa before you get it into your heads to steamroll me, please. :p
As for now, I'll be working on clues again.
O, and I'm surprised as all hell that I'm alive tonight.
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Various notes on Mafia and some conclusions from clues.
Bolded bits are clues/conclusions I feel strongly about.
Misc/seemingly unattached words that hinted:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
- The red moon stared back in the face like a terrifying omen lights out
- lamp moved to center of room
- smiley in place of shotgun
- when four men intercepted them
- fight an army if one would present itself
- fortunately/unfortunately shows up multiple times
- surrounded on all sides
- "the fourth man" has been mentioned specifically twice
- They intruded into the office buildings he was at and quickly found him doing repetitive boring paperwork in his drab cubicle.
Mr. Blue:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
I'm interpreting this guy for the first time, 'since we thought it was Mandalor before; apparently this was not the case.
- Got the last word in, which means one of two things to me: a reference to finality or being of a position greater than those around him. The former seems more likely, though with the next clue...
- He mentions the right mayor being elected; this is the only thing he does through day 1-5. This seems to me to be a strong indicator that this was a very powerful clue, which I believe points at one of the people who ran for mayor.
- A possible music reference exists in "tugged on the chord" as chord is a musical reference whereas cord would be the correct spelling. Possibly just a spelling error.
- "broke the chain of the saw" and "shredded down the side" might be important.
Eddie:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Pointed the gun on day one, but doesn't specify he shot it; he's only used the gun during panic. - Seems to frequently help his fellow Mafia, i.e. helping Black Mamba and holding down Empyrean for D.arkive. - Doesn't seem to be afraid of violence. - Got the lucky kick in on day 2 and then proceeded to kick Yogurt repeatedly in the gut. This fits LostYourSkills quote in that he started off lucky and then became skilled/habitual with his kicks. - He has a theme of shooting and then retreating. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.
Joe:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Strongly supports leader/helps his friends. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. - Seems to be polite/well spoken. - Acts when people try to leave. and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead New Suspect: - Joe could be Unforgiven. The photo is of a smiling bunny giving two thumbs up. His name was alluded to last Mafia game, so the cheery/helpful nature of the photo may be his clue this time. However, I see no connection with the leaving clue.
Mr. Red:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - The big one that bugs the shit out of me, he keeps losing his balance and falling over. - Has never spoken. - Threw something on the ground that made Lenwe slip, possibly the same substance in the next clue. - Though not named specifically, at the beginning of Day 3 he was outside of Dinmsab's house throwing "matter" at the window and beckoning him out. Mr. Red is confirmed this person by the following: Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Mr. Red was the fourth person introduced into the story in the line immediately after he saw the fourth man. Enigma, California Mountain Snake, and Mr. Orange were in the house before him.
Mr. Blonde:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
- Is prone to attacking through bodily means.
- Is very fast; I thought he was invisible, but looking at the "jetted" comment on Day 5, I think he
is just very fast.
My prime suspect for Mr. Blonde is Jimtudor. Jim Tudor is the name of a hockey player. Hockey players tend to be quite physical and reach great speeds on the ice.
May have been Evilmonkey.
King Brown Snake:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Appears inhuman or deformed. - HE IS A MIDGET! Or at least very short. Look: He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.
New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there.
Mr. Red and Eddie headed them off and King Brown Snake and The Wolf moved in behind Caller. King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. My prime suspect is Crazie-Penguin. Penguins are short, cannot punch (and therefore may use slapping as an attack), and the word maddened refers to madness or insanity.
The Wolf:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
- Seems to be patient/apologetic.
- Accurate. He "made his mark" on Chuiu on Day 1 and threw a nail down the hallway square into
the back of New104's head.
- Doesn't ever seem to be directly involved in trying to kill to start with; he always interrupts or
stumbles along the action, with the exception of Chuiu.
Enigma:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Seems prideful and arrogant. - He has notable physical features. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground -Empyrean notes specifically that he doesn't have the means to detain Enigma. These seem to signify a clue pointing towards something inhuman - Possible theme of tackling/going to the ground. said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground
Mr. Pink:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Calm and careful. Calculated. - Is a good fighter, - Is quiet/soft spoken. - Suggested the beating of Fishball rather than shoot. - Seems to be connected to things being parted into two. - Is perhaps a wild animal or some other creature/a profession that specializes in hunting. Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street
Mr. Brown:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Repeatedly mentions staring at victims. - Mr. Brown is situationally unintelligable: Unintelligible:he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. Intellible:Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown He talks quite clearly here, so perhaps it's just his yelling that is indecipherable. Also, note the underlined portions in the quotes; both times he is not understood, direction is mentioned. - Yard decorations are clearly mentioned, as is a sharp stone. - This is the second time Brown has helped Pink beat someone to death. - Also note that he has never shown up alone (twice with Mr. Pink and once with Mr. Blonde) and is often close by them.
Snake Charmer:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Uses swords. 
Cottonmouth:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
- Has a very strong numbers theme, though they don't add up to the same sum when you just
take into account his weapons; but what about the entire day posts? I'll be looking into this after
posting.
Potentially solved - Key number seems to be 44.
+ Show Spoiler [Methodology] +
Day 2:
Specific numbers mentioned:
2, 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 27
Number placements:
once, fourth, = 5
Name (OneBlueAugust):
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10
Total: 44
Day 4:
Specific numbers mentioned:
5, 6, 3 = 14
Name (New104):
1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30
Total: 44
Credit to Plexa for pointing out the days corresponding with the numbers.
Credit to qrs for finding a missing two in Day 2.
Mr. White:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
- He has never been in a prolonged fight - He always just comes in and makes the finishing blow.
- Probably relating to the clue above, he is habitually late and/or lazy.
- Speaking of the finishing blow, both have been crushing of heads.
California Mountain Snake:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Respectful, has a hat. - Perhaps someone with a musical tie as well, as per the "singing". - Seems to have a theme of dismembering/taking things apart, as he removed Dinmsab's head and went much further in removing all of aZnvaLiaNce's limbs. - A possible theme of helplessness. Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.
Mr. Orange:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] +
- Doesn't like/interrupts sound.
- Has never spoken.
Copperhead:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Seems to enjoy giving choices. There is someone with a quote saying "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- even a boat!" Copperhead gave a choice between left or right, and whatever was in his right pocket bulged too large for his pocket.This is 0cz3c's quote..
Mr. Black:
+ Show Spoiler [Clues] + - Strong, obviously. - Seems to create a sticky substance. - Note that as Mr. Black was still climbing through the window JeeJee attacked Copperhead who was already in the room without waiting, yet Mr. Black is the one who grabbed the bat. Perhaps this signifies an extra-long reach or something similar. - Possible connection to love and/or risk? "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black
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On April 16 2008 12:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
where is the list of confirmed innocents
Fusion has them in his blog post.
I'm editing my post above now to contain all the old information I had as well.
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On April 16 2008 12:34 Plexa wrote:
nice to see that we picked up on alot of the same information MTF
Yup. :p
Specific clues I'm going to be looking at tonight/tomorrow:
- Eddie's theme of shooting his gun and retreating.
- Mr. Blue's chainsaw and final/last reference.
- Supportive people in general aimed at Joe, as well as a focus on his theme of attacking as people try to leave.
- Enigma being ugly/having notable physical features and the theme of going to/staying on the ground.
- Mr. Brown's "intelligible/unintelligible" mystery.
- Mr. White being lazy and/or late.
As for who I believe we should take out right now, Crazie-Penguin is my strongest suspect. I feel we've got him pretty well tied down to King Mountain Snake and town can't afford to shoot wildly with another paramedic, jack, and vigilante dead.
(Second place of those I feel strongest about would be Clazziqaui as California Brown Snake but I don't feel nearly as convinced of him as I am of Crazie-Penguin.)
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Attempting to attach specific clues to specific people. Bolded names are those I feel strongly about, and italics are those I feel weak about:
- Eddie's theme of shooting his gun and retreating.
jtan:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +
His profile picture is of M&M microing against lurkers, aka, fire and retreat.
- Mr. Blue's chainsaw and final/last reference.
Scorch:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +His profile quote is from a Rage Against the Machine song called Know Your Enemy, on an album that had more traditionally metal guitar music than later albums. Now, examine Mr. Blue's latest clues: Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Yes, it's a stretch. :p But, it's the only thing I could find even close to relating.
- Supportive people in general aimed at Joe, as well as a focus on his theme of attacking as people try to leave.
Unforgiven_ve:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +
His profile picture is of a happy looking bunny giving the thumbs up. Not only did Joe directly give a thumbs up, he has been helpful/supportive of his fellow Mafia from day one.
- Mr. Brown's "intelligible/unintelligible" mystery.
infinity21:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +
His profile quote reads, "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit". This could allude to Mr. Brown's off/on ability to be understood.
fgsvsd:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +
His name is gibberish whilst his quote speaks just fine.
- Mr. White being lazy and/or late.
ieatkids5:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +
His quote reads, "Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Both scenes in which Mr. White is active, he shows up last in. This is more particularly noted in Day 2 than in Day 4. As well as being the last to show up, he never, not once, has engaged in a fight except to make the finishing blow. I believe this is a strong connection.
Random Things Noted While Looking:
- NatsuTerran translates into SummerTerran.
- qrs has this quote: "It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious." Earlier I noted that there was a very detailed description of a very drab room. I will look into other day posts that contain the same Mafia that showed up in Day 6 to see if I can find any others that are similar.
Finally,
Finding Out Mafia Suspects:
First, let us tally up all the dead Mafia.
Known Mafia:
Sidewinder was Queasy.
Black Mamba was BlindAlbino.
Taipan Snake was d.arkive.
Others That Died:
Evilmonkey - Night 5
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Mandalor died on Night 2, meaning that whoever his character is cannot have shown up in Days 3-6, but must have have been in either or both of Days 1-2.
Likewise, Evilmonkey died on Night 5, meaning his character cannot be in the Day 6 post and beyond.
Mafia Who Have Not Shown Up 'Since Day 1-2:
Snake Charmer
We thus find that Mandalor was definitely Snake Charmer.
And for Evilmonkey,
Mafia Who Didn't Show Up On Day 6:
Snake Charmer
King Brown Snake (I strongly believe this is Crazie-Penguin)
Mr. Blonde
Mr. Red
Mr. White
Cottonmouth
The Wolf
Copperhead
Mr. Orange
Any of these can be Evilmonkey. Personally, I feel that he was Mr. Blonde.
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On April 16 2008 17:53 Scorch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2008 16:44 MTF wrote:
Let's note that we only have 20 mafia names, dead or alive. Seeing as d.arkive (the suicide bomber) has been tied to Taipan Snake, this suggests that the special Mafia roles get a character as well. Thus, the overall number of names should be at 22: 20 Mafia, 1 suicide bomber, and 1 saboteur. This is apparently not so, which leads me to believe that the remaining two mafia can only be found by examining key words in the Day posts. Look at the OP. There are only 20 mafias total: one suicider, one saboteur and 18 without abilities. Non-townies are related 1:1 to those codenames. Btw, if you admit yourself that your clue against me is far-fetched, at least write it in italics 
O, you're indeed right. I assumed that the 20 mafia were separate from the special roles.
This means that Mandalor was 100% Sword Charmer. Too bad we didn't figure that out before offing MidnightGladius. : x
and sure, I'll italicize you. :p
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Alright, guys, a quick note:
Even though I don't think there are Mafia hiding without names anymore, I am completely certain that fusion was right in that clues are hidden in the day posts without being attached directly to anyone.
My main piece of evidence is here:
He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him.
I always assumed this referred to The Wolf, as he is the next new person introduced. However, I am no longer convinced this is the case, as I've stated before that I feel Mr. White is lazy/late - hence a Mafia in the break room.
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Ok, here's a quick list of similar phrases throughout the days with at least three references. Please note that these were not all on one day, in any of their cases. Also, I am well aware that none of these directly proves anything and that some could be unintentional red herrings through storytelling. However, I still do believe there are little clues lying around in Day post words.
[spoiler=Directions and Placements] (I don't think I got all these; kinda rushed because of sleepiness.)
turn of events
took their turns dealing
moved onto the table in the center of the room
turned to the right
dodged to the left
standing right[/spoilers]
+ Show Spoiler [Square] +
punch square in the jaw
landed square in the back of New104's head
landed a punch square in Showtime!'s right eye
+ Show Spoiler [Hopelessness/Impending Doom] +
near suicidal
no strength left to live.
knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself
almost already felt himself dying as he ran
vain attempt to save
+ Show Spoiler [Sounds] +
alerted by this blast
when they heard the sound resonate
up stairs to investigate the sound
tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about
+ Show Spoiler [Panic] +
Eddie half-panicked
He panicked as he
he panicked and
+ Show Spoiler [Neighbors] +
a neighbors phone
house next to them.
resonate from the house next door.
Next door
on his neighbors lawn
+ Show Spoiler [Impatience/Anger] +
Irritated he decided
getting really impatient
was getting frustrated
+ Show Spoiler [Chance] +
he took his chances with
Unfortunately Mynocks
fortunately they
Unfortunately Dinmsab had
Coincidentally Fishball
+ Show Spoiler [Slow] +
seemed to drag on forever
slowly taking their toll on him.
didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly.
He crept down slowly
he walked slowly
walked up slowly
a slow pace
+ Show Spoiler [Military] +
just about surrendered
grouped up in the room
when four men intercepted them.
were ready to fight an army
charged at Empyrean
they were still surrounded
Mr. Red retreated
jetted towards him (possibly)
+ Show Spoiler [Inspection] +
head out to investigate
went up the stairs to investigate
up to investigate
over to them to investigate
inspecting his window
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And with that, I am going to sleep. G'night, town and nightmares to you, Mafia. At least this time I know I won't wake up dead. :p
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On April 17 2008 02:24 nemY wrote:
The inconsistencies in your guys "detective work" is uhh rather disconcerting... =/
Try doing some yourself! :p
Also, a general note: the only time criticism is helping in any way is when it is specific enough to reveal faults, such as qrs finding the missing two from Day 2 post. Your comments will be taken much more seriously if they have actual content to them instead of just bashing the people working hardest to figure things out.
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On April 16 2008 19:10 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2008 18:19 Scorch wrote:On April 13 2008 22:54 Plexa wrote:
by the way, my team of expert detectives have uncovered a interesting fact
Either MidnightGladius is Mafia
or MTF is mafia
Is this still true? What's the reasoning for this? Should we vote to lynch MTF? Nono, i think he narrowed down the list to likely people. But its actually now: MTF Smurfingchobo unsoundlogic L
Yeah, that's what happened.
O, and I forgot to do this:
Who We Match:
MTF - Mr. Black, from the smashed window reference, "drove through", the reference to love today, and general kickassery.
Smurfingchobo - King Black Snake, from the shortness alone. I honestly feel 100% sure that this is Crazie-Penguin's character.
unsoundlogic - Mr. Orange, as he continually destroys/silences sources of sound.
L - Enigma, as L from Death Note is described as being the worlds greatest detective (Enigma writing down false analysis for the town), unattractive, and mysterious.
So, objectively there's a suspect for every one of us four on that list...which really sucks. Out of them, I feel most strongly inclined towards L for suspicious circumstances and strength of ties to Enigma.
Also note that out of us four, both unsound and L are on the Mandalor list. If L is indeed Mafia, then that clears the other three of us on the TranceStorm list, and clears unsound (and takes down one Mafia) from the Mandalor list.
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On April 17 2008 05:12 suresh0t wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2008 05:07 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Lets also not forget it's possible that some mafia can be inactive? Just curious how this would effect anything?
It wouldn't. Mafia don't send in individual kills, they just send in a list to Chuiu with how many hits are on who. So, Mafia kill strength doesn't go down any from inactivity.
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On April 17 2008 06:19 L wrote:
Or they've protected someone who was mafia. Lenwe wasn't, so the medic on him is 100% confirmed, regardless of if he should or shouldn't have known. All the others, however, aren't. Unless all the saves are on people that are confirmed townie, you're making faulty judgements again.
Mafia - Your Don wishes nothing but to take over the world, but first you must take care of your home town! You will know who your fellow mafia members are and get the ability to kill townies each night. You may not target mafia members, however. Mafia killing power will be decided once signups are closed.
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Random Note About Cottonmouth:
- Possible theme of meeting people.
when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle.
one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.
I might let it slide if it were just met, but to be followed soon after by the abnormally applied embraced leads me to believe Cottonmouth, or another Mafia, may have this theme.
Random Note About Joe:
- I missed one of his references to acting just when someone is about to leave.
and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone.
- And this reference may be aimed at Joe as well, though it is unclear.
He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.
This makes the amount of times Joe has specifically stopped a person trying to leave up to two, and acting when someone tries to leave up to three, and adding one to both if the latter reference does indeed refer to Joe.
Renewing Old Suspect for Mr. Brown & Introducing New Suspect:
I am reintroducing nemY as a suspect for Mr. Brown for the following:
- Theme of staring/meeting gaze.
- Possible theme of pairs; he has always been paired up with just one person and was present when Mynock's head was shot (presented as being in two later) and he broke a phone into two.
Major Flaw: The indecipherable clue is not met so far as I can tell.
I am introducing omfghi2u2 as a suspect for Mr. Brown for the following:
- Theme of staring/meeting gaze.
- "omfg" before hi may be the link to him being indecipherable when he calls out.
- Has introduced himself once, and in accordance with my belief now that clues may be scattered around, it is noteworthy that Enigma also introduced himself/California Mountain Snake.
Nothing solid at the moment. The only two people I feel pretty strongly about taking out right now are L and Crazie-Penguin.
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Hahaha.
On April 17 2008 11:08 crazie-penguin wrote:
First of all it just says that Brown Snake is just a "strange" looking man. Which is incredibly ambiguous, and how you connect "short" to being strange I have absolutely no clue (i'm assuming this because I don't see short anywhere on Brown Snake's description). I don't know, can't some one in a badly emotional state be also in a bad shape or anyone who's a killer?
"strange" = abnormal for a normal person
As for the shortness:
He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.
New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there.
Mr. Red and Eddie headed them off and King Brown Snake and The Wolf moved in behind Caller. King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet.
Chuiu doesn't come right out and say it, but he never specifically said BlindAlbino was blind either.
That's kind of the point with clues; you have to interpret them.
On April 17 2008 11:08 crazie-penguin wrote:
Also, if "King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up". If he's stepping up to someone I'm pretty sure he won't be short. It's all I have so far, but what more can I say? You seem to be making weird connections.
King Brown Snake was the one doing the stepping up, so I don't even see how you reached that conclusion. And again, this line:
He met him face to face halfway
Confirms that DapperDan came face to face halfway through getting up from the ground.
On April 17 2008 11:08 crazie-penguin wrote:
As for the maddened part. Maddened can mean many things , it could mean angry or infuriated or something. I'm assuming anyone who gets knocked down would be pretty mad.
It can, but it fits very well in terms of insanity alongside the slapping and blatant shortness of the character to match you.
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On April 17 2008 11:51 qrs wrote:I don't have much confidence in Ace's judgment, since it has been wrong more often than it has been right so far. Meanwhile, unless I missed something when I was catching up on the thread, the whole accusation against L was based on a mistake that L pointed out and Chuiu confirmed. Therefore, as far as we know, there is no case against L at the moment. (Of course, the Mafia knows he's a medic now: too bad...) I will not be voting for L this lynch. I'll probably vote suresh0t because of the clues that seem to point at him. (summary: + Show Spoiler +1)sure shot: 1-hit kill with nail thrown down hall; twice says that Caller tried to dodge but couldn't. 2) signature: apology for taking on God (authority) but someone has to do it, corresponds with the Wolf's apology to Chuiu for killing him (Chuiu was an authority figure in the Mafia). 3) Profile pic: hammer--goes with nails. ).
I like how that all adds up.
I'm still voting L, but this looks really nice for the future.
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