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On March 19 2008 09:07 Ace wrote: If any Mafia member false claims they'd be caught red handed fast because this plan does not use 1 person as the word of trust - it uses several with a self checking scheme. Good point, the only way for the mafia to get around it is to have some mafia roleplay bodyguards and others roleplay detectives. EDIT: Going to be gone for about an hour. | ||
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On March 19 2008 09:10 Ghar wrote: What Ace meant was the real bodyguards would see it strange that they got a PM from Chuiu telling them they're bodyguard, but not from the mayor who might have left them out when PMing the bodyguards about each other. Ace's plan = Bodyguard gets 2 PMs, 1 from Chuiu, and 1 from the Mayor telling him who the other bodyguards are. The number has to add up, anybody guard that didn't get a PM from the mayor, stands up and speaks out. Read the above post. Every single bodyguard does get a PM from the mayor. And I'm really going to be gone. | ||
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On March 19 2008 10:16 qrs wrote: Much as I hate to admit it, I believe my plan is flawed. As per Kau's post, a Mafia can identify himself as a bodyguard, and all the bodyguards will believe he is telling the truth. The Bodyguard plan is not failsafe after all. Unless someone comes up with something new, we will have to waste some detective power as Ghar has been saying. Hell, if I don't get to be the mayor/pardoner, I'll be the sacrifice. At least it'll benefit the town since I'll die if I don't the the positions anyway. | ||
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On March 19 2008 11:26 BlindAlbino wrote: Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch. I vote Ace for Mayor. Because this is the right thread in which to vote! | ||
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On March 19 2008 12:07 JeeJee wrote: people who vote for empyrean crack me up. if he's legit, the best he can do for us is verify the mayor then get shot by mafia, because there's no reason to vote for him at all, since saboteur will juts be laughin at us (realize that he had nobody to roleblock until empyrean went "im dt lulz!") if we elect him I PM'd Ace something. Don't worry. | ||
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On March 19 2008 12:16 Ace wrote: I got your PM, I'll respond later when I'm back from going out. I PM'd you an additional idea as well. I have numerous others. I'm going to sleep now, and I'll respond in about seven hours. I'm basically trying to prove that I'm not a completely tardass. | ||
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On March 19 2008 18:04 ahrara_ wrote: [b]However, there's the added bonus that randombum is less likely to be a mafia ploy because he announced his campaign before the game started, whereas Empyrean's role claiming makes him suspect. Actually, I announced my campaign before the game started as well. I stated that I would be running for mayor no matter what. | ||
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On March 20 2008 04:34 Wysp wrote: Figuring out for sure if Empyrean is mafia is fairly important. If he is it will be easy to figure out atleast where to look for a few more members. Easy to solve. Get a (or some) detectives to investigate me, and report their findings directly to Ace. | ||
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On March 20 2008 04:55 BlindAlbino wrote: ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen. First they investigate Ace, and one detective will probably publicly announce Ace's innocence. Then they'll just PM Ace. Or they can immediately PM Ace and assume he's town, while other detectives confirm his role. If he's town, they'll be silent. If he's mafia, they'll sound the alarms. And finally, if I do die this night, I'd like to just post one thing after my death. | ||
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After L2W failed in his protection of alventenie, I started the whole "he revealed his role, but he's not actually paramedic!" bandwagon that got him lynched. So at the moment, shut up and watch the game unfold. | ||
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On March 20 2008 07:06 Live2Win wrote: ORLY?! *evil smirk* + Show Spoiler + (btw I'm not playing so plz don't take this post seriously) Yeah sorry L2W  I still heart you :D And when'll we know the target of the mayor's lynch? >:O | ||
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Well it looks like I'm obviously not going to get an elected position. I'm not a detective. I'm plain townie. You can get a detective or someone to check it out :/ Now. The only reason I posted that I was detective was to try and get the mayoral/pardoner spot, since the only way I will ever be sure (remember, I can't actually check people's roles) that we have a townie-aligned mayor/pardoner is if I were to be in office. So yes, I suppose it was a selfish move, but you'll have to believe me when I say that it was the best thing I could personally have done for the town, since I am a definite townie. I couldn't wait for the off-chance that someone else take the mayoral position and end up being a mafioso. So you'll understand why I tried to force the town's hand. And since I've revealed my true role, it's up to the mafia to decide if they want to waste their Suicide Bomber(s?) on a plain townie who's not likely to receive paramedic protection. Furthermore, it solves the problem of the saboteur issue. Why sabotage someone's "abilities" when they actually have none? All town detectives are at the moment unknown, and Ace's plan should proceed without impediment. | ||
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Detectives should investigate Ace's role. If he is townie, then they will silently PM their findings to him. If Ace is mafia, then they will blow Ace's cover. After the detective's death (with a likely suicide bomber use?), we'll know for sure, then we can lynch a potential-mafia Ace later. But I'm hoping Ace is townie. Also, when detectives check anyone else's role, if they could report it to Ace so that they don't reveal their cover. Ace will publicly state the detectives' findings. | ||
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On March 20 2008 10:56 BlindAlbino wrote: how can we even be sure your a townie at this point. this is ridiculous. making the game harder for us then it needs to be With the detectives. Once they find out I'm plain townie, they'll report it to Ace who will make that information known. | ||
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On March 20 2008 11:02 GeneralStan wrote: You just confused me :\ If he was a vanilla townie then we could have been wasting mafia roles, but they might have realized and ignored Emp. Or Emp really is a detective and he's trying to now avert attention from himself. Heh. Think about it for a second - why would I make such a move to announce that I am detective so early on in the game? My only reason for doing so was to ensure a townie mayor. I've also confused some mafia, hopefully. If they still think I'm detective, they run the risk of wasting both their sabotage or their suicide bomber. If they think I'm vanilla townie, then, well, nothing special happens. All our detectives'll still be secret and safe. Anyway, if you guys really want to see my role, you should just wait for Ace to announce the detectives' results. | ||
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The only real point of vanilla townies is to vote to lynch mafias and try and protect the real town special roles so they can win the game. Basically, my abandonment of my initial plan (to stir up mafia confusion - should we use a suicide bomber/saboteur?) was because you guys are trying to start the whole lynching bandwagon. [b]Just wait for Ace to confirm (via detective) that I'm vanilla town. | ||
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