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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:19 GMT
#5421
exactly my point
i've got a list with 50% mafioso thus all my suspects from mandalor have about a 1 in 2 chance of being correct

now qrs, who is guilty from your list?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
May 11 2008 02:20 GMT
#5422
On May 11 2008 07:39 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2008 23:27 jtan wrote:


The most suspicious thing about me is probably that I join the game now, which I obviously wouldn't do if I was mafia


actually that makes you look more like mafia.

Posting once your name satrts to be posted consistently and with stronger ties is very mafia like.

You read my post wrong, I meant joining now is so obviously a bad idea I wouldn't have done it if I were mafia.

Would you start talking when people start being suspicious about you if you've been silent before?
No, it would be a lot smarter to just wait and see. Many accusations seems to just be forgotten.

Anyway, it's no big deal if I get lynched, I havn't helped town at all anyway. It's just 1 lynch wasted that could be used on a mafia from the towns perspective.
Enter a Uh
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 11 2008 02:26 GMT
#5423
On May 11 2008 11:19 Plexa wrote:
now qrs, who is guilty from your list?

My list? Do you mean the showtime! list? No idea.
If you mean who do I think is guilty in general, I've already mentioned that my top suspects are sureshot, ninja, and clazziquai (in that order). Not much new to add there, sorry. The only person I somewhat suspect who is not already one of the main suspects is Puosu, but I'm hardly sure about him.
BTW, I'm not convinced of your reasoning that clues must apply to one person and only one, for the simple reason that Chuiu probably did not read through all 130 profiles before making his clues.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:27 GMT
#5424
Suspects (1 is mafia)

08-CDRdude
Display Name : CDRdude
Birthday :  
Country : United States
Joined : Sunday, 27th of May 2007
Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image:

Display Name : nemY
Birthday : February 15, 1987
Country : United States
Joined : Sunday, 23rd of July 2006
Quote :  
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image: + Show Spoiler +
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34-RtS)Night[Mare
Display Name : RtS)Night[Mare
Birthday : June 05, 1988
Country : Mexico
Joined : Thursday, 23rd of December 2004
Quote : <3 the tl.net community
Name Meaning: nightmare
Clues:
Image: South Park character (of himself) [image has since changed]
Profile: Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.

48-qrs
Display Name : qrs
Birthday :  
Country :  
Joined : Thursday, 27th of December 2007
Quote : It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious. --Alfred North Whitehead
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image:

51-araav
Display Name : araav
Birthday : June 19, 1979
Country : Armenia
Joined : Wednesday, 29th of September 2004
Quote : The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image:
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85-ahrara_
Display Name : ahrara_
Birthday :  
Country : Afghanistan
Joined : Tuesday, 26th of February 2008
Quote : Running 8 min of T in the LOC.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
May 11 2008 02:34 GMT
#5425
How do you know 1 of those is mafia?
Enter a Uh
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-11 02:36:39
May 11 2008 02:35 GMT
#5426
On April 30 2008 16:18 MTF wrote:
Joe:

Evidence to Support Unforgiven Possibly Being Joe:

- All links are being drawn from Unforgiven's profile picture.
- Joe is generally supportive and gives a thumbs up.
- Joe is smiling in the last Day post
- Joe may be short. See:

Show nested quote +
he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so


Also note that Joe needed help getting Queasy into his car and that Chuiu did not specify where aznvaliance was grabbed when Joe grabbed him from behind.

Mr. Pink:

I think everyone who was pointing at Nightmare may have been correct. See:

Show nested quote +
Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.


Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.

Summation: Pink wants to cause pain and does so. Zeks feels pain and tries to put out the fire, but fails and thus suffers. He then comes to the conclusion after such suffering (thinking -> wisdom) to take off his clothing to stop the burning, which might be construed as making life bearable. Pink judges he's had enough suffering and knocks him unconscious.

His posting record seems fairly pro-town with some analysis here and there, but then again, that's exactly how I'd describe L's posts.

i like the analysis for joe while the analysis for mr pink i think was worthy of bing revived in light of my suspicion regarding rowdierbob
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:35 GMT
#5427
On May 11 2008 11:34 jtan wrote:
How do you know 1 of those is mafia?
showtime list
8 people voted for showtime detective revealed one mafioso
ulszz is dead, hence 1/7
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:47 GMT
#5428
analyzing alone is not fun why did they have to kill mtf
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-11 03:23:34
May 11 2008 03:22 GMT
#5429
Case for Unforgiven being mafioso

Exhibit A
noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone.
We note this peculiar phrase, and implies that the driver of the vehicle must be doing something obscure while driving to be able to look for things

Exhibit B
"Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help,
Firstly we observe that he needs assistance carrying (a sick) person into the back of his car. And the fact that he acknowledges and appreciates it suggests that he needed the help.

Exhibit C
He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van.
Rather interesting choice of words "decided to be short". This coincides with the idea of Joe needing help to lift someone into his van

Exhibit D
Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.
We note that he gives a thumbs up

Exhibit E
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe
We note that he is smiling

Exhibit F
Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall.
We notes that he in going to "jump" onto him rather than "drop" onto him

Exhibit G
he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation.
Once again joe jumps onto a car - obvious gaining some serious height if he is going to cause an indentation

Exhibit H
Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so
We note that joe is in the perfect spot to kick him in the face - this again implies that he is short

Exhibit I
As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground.
We note that joe can only attack naib once he is on the ground, when he tries to get up he is "kicked" back to the ground - this again coincides with the fact that he is short

[image loading]

This image fits every single aspect of joe's character without fail. He fits the car driver in having to do something weird to look for his friend. He fits the short description and the fact he needs help to lift someone into his car. He fits the idea that joe needs to 'jump' around. He fits the kick. He fits the smile and the thumbs up.

Unoforgiven absolutely has to be mafia
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 11 2008 03:28 GMT
#5430
Now that's good.
sAviOr...
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 11 2008 04:05 GMT
#5431
wow.. plexa strikes again

Just curious, why am i not on your suspect list anymore? Last time i was 40% according to you and now nothing

Also... i don't like the clue analysis for jtan very much. though his posting debut in these recent pages does require to be considered, i suppose. Just that it seems analysed from a perspective like, "if we decide jtan is mafia, we can sorta link x and y to him" rather than "x and y seem to link to jtan." Just my 2c.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 04:07 GMT
#5432
On May 11 2008 13:05 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
wow.. plexa strikes again

Just curious, why am i not on your suspect list anymore? Last time i was 40% according to you and now nothing .
you still are a suspect (1/7th to be precise)
but that list is just so damn confusing when we got the showtime list me, fusionsdf, mtf and associate all were shocked because we hadn't picked of you as mafia..

im sure the link will come...
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-11 04:24:48
May 11 2008 04:24 GMT
#5433
I figured such. Just was confused because you left me out of the other people on the showtime list in that post.

..or perhaps you have already sent the vigilante :s

e: 400 posts wooo!
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 04:45 GMT
#5434
o shit i did leave you off..

i'll put you back on it
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 11 2008 04:46 GMT
#5435
Aren't all our vigis gone?
sAviOr...
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 11 2008 05:04 GMT
#5436
On May 11 2008 13:45 Plexa wrote:
o shit i did leave you off..

i'll put you back on it


and fix my name meaning while you're at it
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
May 11 2008 05:47 GMT
#5437
On May 11 2008 11:27 Plexa wrote:
85-ahrara_
Display Name : ahrara_
Birthday : &nbsp;
Country : Afghanistan
Joined : Tuesday, 26th of February 2008
Quote : Running 8 min of T in the LOC.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

pimpin
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 11 2008 08:42 GMT
#5438
sup, well...i dont have much to say about plexa's clues, just that my picture being the source of all the clues pointing to me is a little too much, of ourse im not mafia, im sure Chuiu is a lot more capable of finding a lot of clues pointing to me, and be aware since L died not any clues is "smiling", but is true we need more suspects...on a side note im 6f 4' and 180lbs and thats not short lol.

:)
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 11 2008 09:21 GMT
#5439
I don't really think Unforgiven is mafia here either.

-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 10:05 GMT
#5440
lol unforgiven your analysis falls down on the count that information comes from one section of the profile only

case in point; d.arkive
[image loading]

every single clue from taipan snake pertained to that single picture - hence my accusation stands

On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
Fair enough, but i ask you this - in the middle of the night can you really tell if someone is obviously looking for someone? I beleive if that bunny was driving then he would be serving over the road imo or similar.. i just thought it was particularly peculiar

-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
I do beleive that a normal sized person would have been able to drag his friend into the car without assistance - so why does joe need Lucas to help him? because he cant do it himself, its impossible

-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
Note that there is no place where where the person was held by the rabbit - its plausible that the rabbit could still hold him - how can a penguin hold someone's legs? its flippers are incapable of holding legs? its somewhat of the same issue imo

-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?
That is an interesting point and quite frankly i don't have a complete answer for it... Blind Albino didn't talk - yet he was able to... Although given this sole flaw i still strongly feel that unforgiven is mafia and that the clues stacked against him are stronger than any other person in this game... i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure

+ Unforgiven is on the mandalor list (50% chance to kill) which always makes me more confident

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though

Case in point - he's the best fit

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