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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
"I was away for ages... trying not to attract any attention, but then now that you've started accusing me of murder i've been forced to start posting" | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On May 10 2008 02:16 Unforgiven_ve wrote: hmmm...trying to protect a mafia brother eh? i am suspicious of ninja4ever...and i think MTF and Plexa too. But maybe he's not our primary suspect Yup, you busted me. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On May 10 2008 02:17 Camlito wrote: Lol if you didn't already know, the second in line suspect for mr.blue is you, so you better start thinking jtan is :D. Ya, I'm Mr.Blue for having a Rage Against The Machine signature and Mr.Pink because there is a female supervillain with my name. Busted. MTF himself already conceded that he doesn't think I'm mafia. I have no intentions of withholding my honest opinion solely for the sake of not casting any absurd suspicions on me. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
One thing to note about the clues is that all the characters that have been lynched so far have had a particular facet about them that is completely unique, or specific enough to make the link unique. EvilMonkey was the only person in the list with a monkey reference d.arkive was the only person in the list with a reference to "Direct Current" and the strange device carried around by Taipan ieatkids was the only person with a reference to laziness blindalbino was the only person with a reference to being blind I dont' think theres any more need to keep naming mafia, because its pretty obvious So what does this mean? Firstly, the lurker clue is invalidated (im 99% sure about this). Due to the overlap between jtan and CDRdude it means that lurkers are not a unique clue pointing to one person only. Now, if the lurker is indeed a clue there will be something else about Mr Blue's character which links definitely it to one or the other. On to my next point, which may be rather obvious by now, those with obvious clue references (like spelt out for us) are not mafia... Ghar was not mafia because the link between his picture and the action was blatantly obvious Shadowdrgn was not mafia because the links to mr blonde were (at the time) inconsistent and too obvious MidnightGladius was too obvious... GeneralStan falls under the same category Therefore in future we can avoid making the same mistake again... Moving onto a similar point, if we search too deep we're just going to get confused and find links which are inconsistent. qrs has pointed out a number of these before they went bad, others have too which is good. But what this means is that Scorch is undoubtedly not Mr Blue or Mr Pink - he could still be mafia (not likely) - but he's definitely not either character. Lastly the clues are entirely located within the character text, ie relate to the specific character - not random phrases (as it was last game). GeneralStan proves this conclusively as there were soo many military references throughout the clues yet he was not mafia. As a corollary, the most recent Day post where someone's head gets taken off the object thrown was NOT thrown by Californian Mountain Snake hence applies to another character - and thats likely to be a pivotal clue to say the least. Ill issue a list of suspects with all of these thoughts in mind sometime soon  | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Mr Pink + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets. Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death. ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/3611.gif?1171388550) that picture comes from RowdierBob and i feel is a pretty strong connection to Mr Pink... the alternative is Nightmare, which i don't think is that strong tbh... Mr Blue + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating. He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. Mr Blue is doing something new and failing... i feel that this repeats throughout - but im too lazy to actually go through it all xD but yes, in the next set mr blue does something new and goes around the back to get in, and the umbrella breaking etc and stuff like that.. and then this quote sticks out at me..Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new ETI307 is indeed mafia and well, mr blue to be precise Californian Mountain Snake + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. If all other connections run dry then this should be the answer.. Obviously its he's got something sharp and this; ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/28314.gif?1197214694) coincides rather well with the description from the latest clue (but not the previous imo).. thus Ziel could possibly be mafia.. On top of those my other strong suspects which i've already talked about are; DamageControl as mr Black Clazziquai as mr orange 0cz3c as Copperhead Dr.Dragoon as Mr Brown jtan as eddie + my news ones RowdierBob as Mr Pink ETI307 as Mr Blue Ziel as Californian Mountain Snake (or SMB) i have other weak suspects but those are my strong ones | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
I guess having that silly m&m picture in my profile is pretty stupid, since it involves shooting with guns, piercing of bodies with sharp objects, dodging and avoiding attacks, hiding, sneaking. In other words things that are bound to happen in any of Chuiu's posts. You can draw connections to almost anything, and hence I'm accused of being both Mr Blue and Eddie lol But everything you got against me is very weak if you think about it. The most suspicious thing about me is probably that I join the game now, which I obviously wouldn't do if I was mafia | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On May 10 2008 20:26 Scorch wrote: Ya, I'm Mr.Blue for having a Rage Against The Machine signature and Mr.Pink because there is a female supervillain with my name. Busted. MTF himself already conceded that he doesn't think I'm mafia. I have no intentions of withholding my honest opinion solely for the sake of not casting any absurd suspicions on me. Sorry scorch, i was not being serious, should have stated that. Also plexa, i don't think Ziel is california mountain snake, as you dont throw ultralisks at people, I may be wrong though. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
Plexa, your posts are good, but some connections are just very weak I think the best strategy is to lynch people that voted mandalor and have some suspiciouns against them I remade a list, I think it should be correct + Show Spoiler + Ace ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero Scorch nemY Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito fanatacist SonuvBob butidigress 35 in list 8 mafia 50 not in list 4 mafia So you only have a 4/50= 8% chance of hitting a mafia outside the list and 8/35=23% in it So the obvious strategy is to go for list people first | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 11 2008 00:37 jtan wrote: Yea some connections are weak (like Ziel) and ill openly admit that.. i have SoMuchBetter lined up as a stronger candidate imo...ok Plexa, your posts are good, but some connections are just very weak I think the best strategy is to lynch people that voted mandalor and have some suspiciouns against them I remade a list, I think it should be correct + Show Spoiler + Ace ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero Scorch nemY Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito fanatacist SonuvBob butidigress 35 in list 8 mafia 50 not in list 4 mafia So you only have a 4/50= 8% chance of hitting a mafia outside the list and 8/35=23% in it So the obvious strategy is to go for list people first The thing is, im privy to highly sensitive information and thus in my mandalor list i have ~16 people in it with 8 mafioso.. thats 50% hit ratio  | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
I will laugh so hard if it turns out Plexa's mafia.  | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5427 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 10 2008 23:27 jtan wrote: The most suspicious thing about me is probably that I join the game now, which I obviously wouldn't do if I was mafia actually that makes you look more like mafia. Posting once your name satrts to be posted consistently and with stronger ties is very mafia like. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 11 2008 05:38 SoleSteeler wrote: thank you... upon seeing that image for the 1231231th time i finally felt a strong connection between the two..I like the link for Mr. Pink, Plexa, the "life is pain" image. nightmare's link falls down in the last few liens of his profile - esp the stuff like 'makes life bearable' and what not.. i just dont see the connection... however if rowdierbob is green well then nightmare is mafia no doubt | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On May 11 2008 05:04 Plexa wrote: The thing is, im privy to highly sensitive information... Haha, I'm tired of people doing this. Ace was talking this way at the beginning and his privileged information turned out to be a double-edged sword at best. Now Plexa's doing the same thing: a mysterious "controversial list" that turns out to be worthless (General Stan) and now this "highly sensitive" information that he's supposedly privy to. I can't speak for the rest of the town--most of which seems to like bandwagoning--but as far as my vote goes, people's secret information does not factor into it. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 11 2008 11:04 qrs wrote: my information consists of all the medics, veterans and confirmed townies via detective lists as well as the vigilantes (who are now useless)Haha, I'm tired of people doing this. Ace was talking this way at the beginning and his privileged information turned out to be a double-edged sword at best. Now Plexa's doing the same thing: a mysterious "controversial list" that turns out to be worthless (General Stan) and now this "highly sensitive" information that he's supposedly privy to. I can't speak for the rest of the town--most of which seems to like bandwagoning--but as far as my vote goes, people's secret information does not factor into it. would you like me to publish my list? EDIT: in fact i'd go as far as to show you the lists if you were proven innocent.. ie find a person on the showtime list worthy of lynch, and if he comes up red then ill show you it | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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