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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 13 2008 03:47 GMT
#4361
I'm rather out of "mafia" at the moment - celebrating my two year anniversary this weekend ^^ but the analysis you're doing looks really good.

EvilMonkey is Mr Blonde, check out the second night "swooped down" - seeing as we intially pinned this trait to Shadowdrgn as the dragon could swoop - the monkey swooping fits perfectly. Mr Blonde perfectly fits EvilMonkey's name (just check the clues yourself, i know you're capable ^^) and we can safely assume thats who he is.

As a side note for everyone, Chuiu seems to love pinning mafia to names - and that makes our lives quite easy. So far we've got evilmonkey and queasy on their name connections. This should be our first port of call when analysing clues in the future (imo), if you can pin clues to a name then bring it up and we just need to check if it fits (like in the L situation !) and then we can proceed to act on it
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 13 2008 03:54 GMT
#4362
On April 13 2008 12:47 Plexa wrote:
I'm rather out of "mafia" at the moment - celebrating my two year anniversary this weekend ^^ but the analysis you're doing looks really good.

EvilMonkey is Mr Blonde, check out the second night "swooped down" - seeing as we intially pinned this trait to Shadowdrgn as the dragon could swoop - the monkey swooping fits perfectly. Mr Blonde perfectly fits EvilMonkey's name (just check the clues yourself, i know you're capable ^^) and we can safely assume thats who he is.

As a side note for everyone, Chuiu seems to love pinning mafia to names - and that makes our lives quite easy. So far we've got evilmonkey and queasy on their name connections. This should be our first port of call when analysing clues in the future (imo), if you can pin clues to a name then bring it up and we just need to check if it fits (like in the L situation !) and then we can proceed to act on it


Yay, so he was Mr.Blonde?
You should do another clue interpretations soon after the next day post when you can.

Happy anniversary :D
sAviOr...
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 13 2008 03:54 GMT
#4363
On April 13 2008 12:42 0cz3c wrote:
Pink, when you seached, did you search for Spoinka and got Spoink (a pokemon, ^_^), or did you search for Spoink (and cut off the 'a'.).

There might be a ton of Pokemon references that Chuiu might have made that have been overlooked, but this would only be the case if you searched for Spoinka.

(I just seached "Spoinka" in Google, and the first two pages only showed usernames with Spoinka).

yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs :p
btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet)
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 13 2008 03:56 GMT
#4364
On April 13 2008 12:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 12:42 0cz3c wrote:
Pink, when you seached, did you search for Spoinka and got Spoink (a pokemon, ^_^), or did you search for Spoink (and cut off the 'a'.).

There might be a ton of Pokemon references that Chuiu might have made that have been overlooked, but this would only be the case if you searched for Spoinka.

(I just seached "Spoinka" in Google, and the first two pages only showed usernames with Spoinka).

yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs :p
btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet)


Artanis is a protoss hero in the campaign... don't know any other reasons.
sAviOr...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 13 2008 04:00 GMT
#4365
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
April 13 2008 04:00 GMT
#4366
Artanis is an SC character

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artanis_(StarCraft)#Artanis
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-13 04:03:48
April 13 2008 04:00 GMT
#4367
On April 13 2008 12:56 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 12:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 13 2008 12:42 0cz3c wrote:
Pink, when you seached, did you search for Spoinka and got Spoink (a pokemon, ^_^), or did you search for Spoink (and cut off the 'a'.).

There might be a ton of Pokemon references that Chuiu might have made that have been overlooked, but this would only be the case if you searched for Spoinka.

(I just seached "Spoinka" in Google, and the first two pages only showed usernames with Spoinka).

yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs :p
btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet)


Artanis is a protoss hero in the campaign... don't know any other reasons.

HIgh ranked leader + a praetor
EDIT : I remember fusion speaking about army and accusing generalstan
praetor : the commander of an army
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HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 13 2008 04:05 GMT
#4368
On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names

Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 04:08 GMT
#4369
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).


we dont know.

There are two camps.

One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia.

The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 13 2008 04:08 GMT
#4370
On April 13 2008 13:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names

Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed
And thats great

I can't see any obvious name connections to Mr Red... however the name DamageControl stuck out at me =/ i don't know why
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 13 2008 04:14 GMT
#4371
On April 13 2008 13:08 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 13:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names

Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed
And thats great

I can't see any obvious name connections to Mr Red... however the name DamageControl stuck out at me =/ i don't know why

Rofl i was just about posting something about DamageControl Being
Black mamba

Reason : words such as Ease , Recover, stumbled all about controlling damage ( or not : stumbled)
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 04:25 GMT
#4372
Ease shows up a ton

I really think anything linked to that is solid
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
April 13 2008 04:40 GMT
#4373
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched
Intentional pun? If so, 5/5.

For Mr Red, until we get more clues, there's only Dr.Dragoon due to falling = how dragoons deal damage in rpg games.

And sonuvbob's retarded chocobo picture + the red blood of his nazgul pierced friend.

Both seem pretty meh, but that's what I found while looking.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 13 2008 04:46 GMT
#4374
On April 13 2008 13:08 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).


we dont know.

There are two camps.

One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia.

The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour.
And there is a third camp which suggests the two camps are not mutually inclusive
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 04:48 GMT
#4375
On April 13 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 13:08 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).


we dont know.

There are two camps.

One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia.

The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour.
And there is a third camp which suggests the two camps are not mutually inclusive


And a fourth camp that says they are not mutually exclusive :D
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 13 2008 05:04 GMT
#4376
*doh* fail

scratch that third camp
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 13 2008 09:00 GMT
#4377
On April 12 2008 23:00 MTF wrote:
L led the way against Ghar, but it was a seemingly good clue. Eti307 supported him quite a bit and at the same time pointed the finger at ShadowDrgn. D.arkive also posted not too much later in support of L's finding, though this still does not prove L is guilty.

Plexa needs to tell us who sent him + Show Spoiler [this message.] +
Original Message:
hi!

i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning:

"All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time."

this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing.

now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits...

Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well.

furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly.

and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well.
.

Whoever it was, they were dedicated to Ghar taking the fall.

Looking into others...

That PM came from me. It appears you think that makes me mafia. It does not.

First, read again what I wrote and tell me what of that is complete made-up bullshit. With the knowledge we had at that point, I think it all made sense. I just wrote what I thought was the truth.
Second, had I wanted to start a bandwagon, I would've posted this in the thread instead of in a PM. I posted this privately because I wanted Plexa's opinion on my thoughts.
Third, you'll have to admint that there really was a lot of plausible evidence against Ghar (especially that picture), which made 30 people believe he was guilty. I was not the only one who thought he was mafia.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
April 13 2008 09:25 GMT
#4378
lol I voted for the innocent of the two, but not for the guilty one. I seem to have really good detective skills.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-13 09:58:11
April 13 2008 09:55 GMT
#4379
[QUOTE]On April 13 2008 18:25 MasterOfChaos wrote:
lol I voted for the innocent of the two, but not for the guilty one. I seem to have really good mafia skills
sAviOr...
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 13 2008 10:32 GMT
#4380
On April 13 2008 18:00 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 23:00 MTF wrote:
L led the way against Ghar, but it was a seemingly good clue. Eti307 supported him quite a bit and at the same time pointed the finger at ShadowDrgn. D.arkive also posted not too much later in support of L's finding, though this still does not prove L is guilty.

Plexa needs to tell us who sent him + Show Spoiler [this message.] +
Original Message:
hi!

i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning:

"All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time."

this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing.

now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits...

Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well.

furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly.

and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well.
.

Whoever it was, they were dedicated to Ghar taking the fall.

Looking into others...

That PM came from me. It appears you think that makes me mafia. It does not.

First, read again what I wrote and tell me what of that is complete made-up bullshit. With the knowledge we had at that point, I think it all made sense. I just wrote what I thought was the truth.
Second, had I wanted to start a bandwagon, I would've posted this in the thread instead of in a PM. I posted this privately because I wanted Plexa's opinion on my thoughts.
Third, you'll have to admint that there really was a lot of plausible evidence against Ghar (especially that picture), which made 30 people believe he was guilty. I was not the only one who thought he was mafia.


Nah, I don't automatically assume that you are Mafia because of the PM. It does, however, put you under more scrutiny. I know everyone believed Ghar was guilty and I mentioned that the clues did seem to add up, but I have to look more closely at those who seemed to push the most at the beginning and tried to allay doubts as to the persons guilt.
Think. :)
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