clazziquai, calm done. The town will be quite fine.

And BlindAlbino, I agree tenuously with you on Energies, but suresh0t seems a bit less clear. What links him to the mafia, in your opinion?

MidnightGladius

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April 08 2008 00:24 GMT

#3856

Yeah, we're definitely better off building up a net of cross-referenced count-checks. Since there's no time-elapse limit on count-checking, I suggest using the following to ascertain our current list of suspects and hopefully build up on more targets.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of mafia hiding in the abstain/no vote columns, which is a bit irritating. In the meantime, though, let's check:

Day 3 Votes:

zeks:
aZnvaLiaNce (suspect)

Ninja4ever - 2:
NatsuTerran (confirmed innocent)
Chezinu (suspect)

Day 4 Votes:

TranceStorm - 13:
aZnvaLiaNce (suspect)
MTF (confirmed innocent)
BloodyC0bbler (confirmed innocent)
Meta
rpf
L
bumatlarge
smurfingchobo
MidnightGladius
Lenwe
unsoundlogic
Hittegods
GranDim

First two are single checks, the last is meant to open a few more doors, hopefully.

MidnightGladius

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April 08 2008 01:55 GMT

#3861

I'm fine with that.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 08 2008 13:02 GMT

#3876

So, if aZnvaLiaNce is indeed the mafia from TranceStorm's list, then we can also confirm one from Chezinu, useLess, or fusiondf.

If the Jack could check the zeks vote from Day 3 (only aZnvaLiaNce voted for him), then we can tie this lead up, one way or another.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 09 2008 00:32 GMT

#3896

d.arkive is on a list of confirmed innocents... which brings me to asking - why am I a suspect?

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 09 2008 01:52 GMT

#3902

We can't work with the abstain list at all, BlindAlbino

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 09 2008 02:13 GMT

#3910

So Shallow's 3 different people, 2 of whom are dead?

I'm sorry fusion, but this isn't Psychiatric Ward Mafia, and no one's allowed to have split personalities

MidnightGladius

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April 09 2008 02:41 GMT

#3916

... because it moves the plot? Bajad drovja, you're in no position to be forcing explanations for anything on anyone. The most suspicious person here is you, and trying to analyze Chuiu's thought process is absurd beyond plausibility.

Last game, he used kicks quite frequently, and the town was pointing at chicken (since chickens don't have arms, right?). I think that the personality clues give us a great way to separate what must be a clue and what might be a clue. Let's keep working on referencing vote counts and using solid evidence; deviating from the model that we've all been using so far isn't exactly helpful.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 10 2008 05:45 GMT

#3950

Technically, I don't think we're supposed to talk during nighttime at all

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 14 2008 16:53 GMT

#4487

I'm back from Los Angeles. Sorry for the inactivity these last four days.

This next week and a half will be really busy for me (AP placement tests for next year), and it seems like MTF and Plexa are doing well as detectives.

If you want me dead, then go ahead, but there's one thing I just have to clear up first:

Volrath Ishnikar is a character in one of the short stories I wrote back in eighth grade. Chuiu has no way to know this (unless he's Christopher Collazo of Tampa, Florida, which I highly doubt), but he's an idealist who became corrupted by the Reversalist Zarandur, who promised him a separate existence for him to declare justice upon. He's called the Faithless General for betraying the High Lord Zuranh Darok at Serandahal, and his quote is from his trial at the end of the story.

I also want to apologize for seizing upon the lists' cross-referencing (causing d.arkive not to be lynched and letting him suicide our DT), but at the time it was the only thing I had enough time to work with, and I trusted the information that was given to us... a few mistakes I won't be making again.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 14 2008 21:30 GMT

#4491

I'm really anticipating what you're going to say when I come up green, MTF

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 14 2008 21:51 GMT

#4495

By the way,how did Plexa make that conclusion about the two of us? I must have missed it somewhere, but if he's indeed correct, I'll consider my death a suitable price for netting a mafia.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 14 2008 22:13 GMT

#4498

Fine, I'll come out and say it, if it makes any difference to you: I'm green.

For the record, I also disagree with a lot of MTF's clue reasonings (unsound =/= lack of sound), but I don't think he's mafia, and I won't until someone explains to me why Plexa singled the two of us out.

MidnightGladius

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April 14 2008 22:23 GMT

#4501

In that case, I trust Plexa for his previous analysis, and I'll go with him on this one. Either way, MTF will probably be lynched tomorrow after I'm vigi-ed tonight I can only hope that he does indeed turn out red.

MidnightGladius

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April 14 2008 22:38 GMT

#4507

I'm only working with the conditions I'm given - that one of the two of us is mafia (still don't know why, but I'm running on trust here), and that I'm not. To me, you have to be mafia, or Plexa is wrong; I'm sure the same applies to your posting perspective.

Since the town seems convinced that the clues point to me, I concede my death. I'm satisfied in knowing that you won't outlive me long, and that there'll be at least one less mafia before Night 6.

Of course, assuming Plexa's not wrong.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 14 2008 23:09 GMT

#4509

Yep, I can't wait to see how I die

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 15 2008 01:42 GMT

#4533

Eh, but it's a confirmed, dead detective's van... unless Chuiu is implicating that he and our van driver were in cahoots, which seems rather unlikely, if you want to tie it to mafia.

We'll see at the end, but it seems superfluous to me.

MidnightGladius

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April 15 2008 17:38 GMT

#4594

Everyone owes me a post-death apology. Yeah, I'm asking for it now

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

April 15 2008 17:44 GMT

#4596

If I don't die in the morning, I'll be dead before night, the way things are going. Only thing that's going to save me is if MTF is vigi'ed and turns out red. Para mi, the chances of that happening are slim enough to warrant my death, sooner more likely than later.