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On April 14 2008 20:08 MTF wrote:
Stalled myself out for a moment to retrieve BlindAlbino's voting record:
BlindAlbino
Mayoral Vote: Randombum
Day 2: str
Day 3: str
Day 4: araav
Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu.
Interesting to note: Both Queasy and BlindAlbino originally voted for Ace, and then switched over to randombum near the end of the vote count.
People that did similar moves:
Clazziquai
Hollander
Crazie-penguin (though for good enough reasons)
GeneralStan
LTT
Unforgiven_ve
0cz3c
Myself (I seem to get caught in suspicious places constantly. XD)
People of suspicion who also voted randombum:
Suresh0t
GrayArea (Just have a sort of feeling, dunno if there's anything to it.)
BWdero
Ninja4ever.
Lysithea
L
Just throwing it out there, particularly because the day 1 post mentioned the "right mayor" being elected and randombum also being on the Mandalor list.
What did Mandalor do?
EDIT: So deciding not to be so lazy I just went and had a look, Mandalor originally voted for ghar and then swapped to Ace.
EDIT2: And d.arkive he voted for Last Romantic
Damn I was really hoping we had something there 
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On April 14 2008 20:54 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2008 20:41 Bockit wrote:What did Mandalor do? EDIT: So deciding not to be so lazy I just went and had a look, Mandalor originally voted for ghar and then swapped to Ace. EDIT2: And d.arkive he voted for Last Romantic Damn I was really hoping we had something there Yeah, I hoped the same. There's still a lot of suspects in the randombum group, though. Also, check out my first post on page 216. I compiled all the Mandalor list/known Mafia votes right after Evilmonkey got lynched. It doesn't help much, but it's a quick reference for now. :p
Oh thanks, awesome 
Yeah there is the suspicious people list, but atm 1(2) / 3 (4) mafia.. I dunno it doesn't solidify anything for me yet.
EDIT: Trying to put myself in their mindset, Mafia would have to be pretty slack/stupid to stack votes like that at the last second. If that was the case, it would be extremely suspicious, and judging by the amount of blues we've lost I think it would be a mistake to treat them as that stupid in their movements.
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On April 14 2008 20:54 Plexa wrote:haha MTF is a machineeeee I've been trying to crack Mr Red for daysssss well, ever since i cracked Taipan
Yeah I reckon, this has been some crazy detective work.
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On April 22 2008 12:52 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2008 12:42 nemY wrote:On April 22 2008 09:14 MTF wrote:
Mafia probably haven't sent in their kills yet. Inactive mafia FTL? I can guess at one of a few scenarios to pass the time. 1: The most paranoid suggestion, that Mafia were waiting for L to get in and tell them who he's on tonight. 2: Crazie and/or Blind were the ringleader(s) and now with them gone, Mafia has become a chicken without a head. 3. They're just taking their time. Personally, number 2 appeals to me the most. : x
#1 isn't possible because L has been posting for the past few days. On this note: the fact that L has been so active recently and mafia didn't even send in a hitlist tonight, makes me doubt the strength of the convictions against him. I'm not saying it makes him a confirmed innocent or anything, just that to me it is by no means set in stone anymore.
#2 Out of these possibilities, this is most likely imo.
#3 is also possible, but the length of time makes it improbable imo.
The fact that mafia *haven't sent in a hitlist* makes me think we should be looking at the completely inactive no-vote-no-post people for some mafia.
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On April 25 2008 21:36 MTF wrote:As a general side-note, we now have EVERYBODY who is playing and isn't dead/innocent in a list, whether Mandalor, Showtime!, or Non-Mandalor. This means, no matter who Mafia kills from now on, they up our chances of finding them systematically. 
Heh.. I hate to burst your bubble but that is something that happens regardless of lists 
ie. with mafia killing people, they increase the % of townies that are mafia, because more innocents are dying than mafia.
That aside, I'm loving the work you guys are putting in
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Didn't see that coming... :S
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On May 11 2008 19:05 Plexa wrote:
i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure
Wasn't d.arkive the suicide bomber? Or did we have suspicions on him before he blew up..
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I dunno why others are voting but because there doesn't seem to be very much of an agreement on who to vote with our second lynch I went with my own suspicion plus a bit of a gut feeling, picked from the 4 or so candidates that are up in current discussion.
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On May 14 2008 21:28 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2008 21:21 Bockit wrote:
I dunno why others are voting but because there doesn't seem to be very much of an agreement on who to vote with our second lynch I went with my own suspicion plus a bit of a gut feeling, picked from the 4 or so candidates that are up in current discussion. That's interesting because when i read the people who voted for ninja, your name just didn't stand out as suspicious, rather kf91 and araav, and ofcourse unforgiven. Edit: Plexa who is this UNOforgiven person... hmm...
I was preempting
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While I'm alarmed that so many blue just died.. HeRoS)Pink just had a pretty awesome death scene.
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On May 22 2008 21:22 Plexa wrote:
i feel confident in;
The Wolf = jtan
Mr Black = jimtudor (mandalor)
Copperhead = 0cz3c (mandalor)
somewhat confident in;
Mr Pink = Rowdierbob
Californian Mountain Snake = Bockit
this in addition to the list a couple pages back pretty much sums up my thoughts
Woah what?
Sorry if I'm a bit lost here but when did I become a suspect?
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And any reasoning behind this?
EDIT: Ok I found it, Scorches post a little while back.
Hm, tbh I don't think it's that strong a connection, or at least not stronger than any of the other suspects that have been named to Cali Mt Snake. I have spinning circles in my profile, about as strong as the rotor blades on the hat which seem to have been discounted?
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Wow.
Ok well it seems your whole case against me is based on this list deal (What the hell, why was a list like this posted on the Forums?). To debunk,
You seem to have a crazy notion of what the staff function allows. It allows you to search through the post histories of specific posters, not "give me all mafia relevant posts in teamliquid in order of relevance" or anything. For me to have found a list, if I was mafia, (And I still can't believe such a thing was posted... just wow) I would have to have looked through the post histories of any people I could tell from the thread seemed important. Which is 100x more time consuming than if mandalor, as has been alleged, searched for his name on the forums and looked through posts, or anyone else for that matter searching for their names in the forums. I hope this clears up this weird idea that because I became blue I could suddenly find a list that shows all the people or that you think I would abuse the power I have (Not that I need to, as a player with a boring role I don't even check this thread all the time and when I do I generally vote with the general consensus).
I don't believe any mafia behaviours can be associated with me either, and after catching up with the thread I can see a few people (Thanks Camlito!) have said they find my picture's connection with the disc weapon not nearly as strong as some of the other connections we have.
Hope that clears things up about me.
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Video no longer available?
And I'm sorry, I missed the proof (or even conjecture, unless you count the accusation that somehow me being staffed mid-game made me the only person possible to have found that list) that I was mafia. And I'm pretty sure my voting pattern matches that of any of the inactive townies/veterans. I implied to Ace in my original role-revealing pm that I was kind of disappointed in my role and couldn't see myself being of much help, and after finding out that I couldn't do anything to influence the game anyway I kind of became disheartened (explaining my no votes as I cbb keeping up with the thread).
It's actually a shock to see randombum turn up red, I hadn't picked up anything like that from what I had read of his posts in the thread. Yes I voted for randombum, I think I was one of the first few? I think we should be looking at the back of the randombum voting train that has people that we are sure are mafia (And on the mandalor list, which is what, 50% chance of mafia hits atm?) before we start hitting out at random townies (And vets it seems..).
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Oh I thought people dismissed the spinning disc a while back. Again, I don't really see the strength connection and iirc others felt the same way.
As for L.. that's a fair call. Looking back at that time
On May 27 2008 09:06 L wrote: Because I dont' want anyone thinking that mafia cheated this game. We've had the entire irc hacker incident, multiple instances of townies pming info around after being dead. Mafia's tried its best to keep playing by the rules, and I don't want anyone thinking we've bent the rules and broken into PMs or cheated to find the list. Mandalor was searching for threads with his name in it, and he got the entire list. The IRC incident was another fluke that we'll explain after the game. There's a few other things, but when we write up what happened on our side you'll see what i'm talking about. Show nested quote +Besides, L basically revealed it already (posting while dead, I might add, but whatever.) None of the living members can up and reveal themselves to explain that we aren't cheating, so that forces one of the dead ones to act as a representative.
It looks like he was doing it out of a sense of honour. I dunno.. I can't explain that and I guess that puts me in a 'bad light' but looking at the list Ace posted (through unsoundlogic it seems) I'm not even confirmed mafia, can we at least kill confirmed before we hit up suspected? If clues come up strongly linking me to mafia then sure, kill me, as I know this isn't possible I'm happy to make that call as I know it's not gonna happen.
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On June 05 2008 20:18 nemY wrote:It's cool. Personally I'm all for lynching Bockit then going with 0cz3z essentially following what Plexa & Ace gave us, then moving on from there 
Ok, let me put it this way.
You've been accused on this potential list. You know you're 100% innocent (this is assuming you're a townie), and yet when other people on the list make the same claims, you're happy to ignore their claims and lynch them?
I 100% know there are issues with the list as I am 100% positive of my own innocence. Normally this would be discounted (and has earlier on in this recent game), however we've basically had 3 or 4 people all go.. uhh wtf? myself, you, shallow, jtan. That's 4 of these 'potential' mafia.
I really, really distrust this list and urge people not to blindly vote for me, we'll be wasting a lynch.
EDIT: Or on the others, I think it needs some scrutiny before we act on it.
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Wow, mafia have been pretty shit this game I pretty much solely blame them for it taking this long. We wait an extra day at least every night cos of them.
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Serves me right for waiting that long to make the post haha
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It's ok if you want to, I don't mind. But I guess technically I shouldn't have been speaking, so that's probably the best idea. Anyway that's all from me, gl all~
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