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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2008 17:35 GMT
#3841
On April 07 2008 19:56 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2008 17:28 araav wrote:
wow, some people voted for me for the previous lynch... how come?
I said 100s of times - the thing with chat room is completely made out by Showtime!
An old post where i clearly said it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=3332&topic_id=67925

from page 167
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=167&topic_id=67925

Even if somebody entered the room with the name "araav", that wasn't me.

OK, I admit that showtime was an idiot and the chatroom story made very little sense anyway. The only reason I half-believed it was that Ace had been backing showtime up. I don't know what Ace is thinking, though, so since he hasn't brought it up since showtime died... I'd change my vote, but the final vote count is in.


I backed up Showtime to make it LOOK as if he was important. I knew he was just a townie, and he did a good job of drawing attention away from better targets.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 07 2008 17:38 GMT
#3842
On April 08 2008 02:04 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2008 01:12 MTF wrote:
One of the ways we could approach this is similar to what Ace devised earlier, splitting a vote into two groups.

Just take the confirmed innocents and have them all abstain/vote for a specific suspicious person, while the rest are split into several groups to vote for other specific people, then have DT check the lists.

In this manner, we know how many active voters = mafia and how many inactive are, and if we get very lucky, we could possibly get a slightly more significant number into a single list to narrow down the percentage of error.

The problem with this being that there is only a single detective left.


its not really a problem at all. The reason I was avoiding specific role checks was just because of this and why I wanted to get vote checks asap. In case so many Dts died enough info from lists would be available to the public to carry on without them.

So far it seems to be working well.

For the next vote, I'd propose splitting the lists again.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
April 07 2008 18:09 GMT
#3843
Well, that sucks, we lost another townie and gained little to no information. I hope the last detective and the jacks can give us something to work with and I am praying for some obvious clues in the next post were mafia start killing people.

I also agree that the amount of inactive people we have in this game is not helpfull. It is so easy for mafia to just hide among them, not really post or vote and thus never get noticed.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
April 07 2008 18:59 GMT
#3844
but imo the splitting should be done in a dictatorship way, as else the mafia can manipulate the lists puting ~20% in each list.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
Ziel
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Malaysia241 Posts
April 07 2008 19:38 GMT
#3845
Lol I gave up trying to follow this game around more than 100pages back. There's just too much to keep up with...especially if you miss checking up even for a day. Plus alot of useless posts and bickering (from the ones that I saw previously...i dunno how its been for the recent 100pages tho). Anyway good luck with it guys. Though townies dont seem to be doing much good
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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 07 2008 19:54 GMT
#3846
...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive...

So many clues...and no one votes for him...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
April 07 2008 19:56 GMT
#3847
I have received shocking new evidence regarding Fusionsdf.
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
Not photoshopped, honest!+ Show Spoiler +
;_;+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, maybe it was T_T
I shit you not.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
April 07 2008 20:38 GMT
#3848
On April 08 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive...

So many clues...and no one votes for him...


what clues point to caller? he's not on any of the lists and i've yet to see any clues.

our best bet is to continue to go off the lists and link clues to the people on them. I admit i took a wrong path accusing trancestorm but it seemed reasonable at the time, and the best and easiest thing to do now is to continue down that course.
good vibes only
0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
April 07 2008 21:02 GMT
#3849
There was the telephone clue and the lead clue a LONG while back. I think Plexa might have linked it to another person (or he's still the suspect for that clue), I'm not sure -- I haven't looked at the thread for too long (sorry, but the game was going progressing too slowly).
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 07 2008 21:21 GMT
#3850
On April 08 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive...

So many clues...and no one votes for him...


I am definitely not mafia

whats your evidence
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
April 07 2008 23:24 GMT
#3851
Another townie

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
April 07 2008 23:40 GMT
#3852
from this lynch we conclude that energies and suresh0t are mafia. no question in mind for me.

caller is not mafia my opinion, seems more bodyguard from posts.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 07 2008 23:42 GMT
#3853
clazziquai, calm done. The town will be quite fine.

And BlindAlbino, I agree tenuously with you on Energies, but suresh0t seems a bit less clear. What links him to the mafia, in your opinion?
Trust in Bayes.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 07 2008 23:51 GMT
#3854
On April 08 2008 08:40 BlindAlbino wrote:
from this lynch we conclude that energies and suresh0t are mafia. no question in mind for me.

caller is not mafia my opinion, seems more bodyguard from posts.


nice to see somebody trusts that im a townie

although im not sure where you get bodyguard from. i've just been really uncertain of Ace's allegience, really. He seems to have led us to lynch 4 townies after one mafiaso lynch...
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
April 07 2008 23:59 GMT
#3855
On April 08 2008 02:04 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2008 01:12 MTF wrote:
One of the ways we could approach this is similar to what Ace devised earlier, splitting a vote into two groups.

Just take the confirmed innocents and have them all abstain/vote for a specific suspicious person, while the rest are split into several groups to vote for other specific people, then have DT check the lists.

In this manner, we know how many active voters = mafia and how many inactive are, and if we get very lucky, we could possibly get a slightly more significant number into a single list to narrow down the percentage of error.

The problem with this being that there is only a single detective left.

Wrong. Technically, we still have 1 DT and a jack that can act as a DT on an alternate-cycle basis, which is certainly better than working with the lone DT.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 08 2008 00:24 GMT
#3856
Yeah, we're definitely better off building up a net of cross-referenced count-checks. Since there's no time-elapse limit on count-checking, I suggest using the following to ascertain our current list of suspects and hopefully build up on more targets.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of mafia hiding in the abstain/no vote columns, which is a bit irritating. In the meantime, though, let's check:

Day 3 Votes:

zeks:
aZnvaLiaNce (suspect)

Ninja4ever - 2:
NatsuTerran (confirmed innocent)
Chezinu (suspect)


Day 4 Votes:

TranceStorm - 13:
aZnvaLiaNce (suspect)
MTF (confirmed innocent)
BloodyC0bbler (confirmed innocent)
Meta
rpf
L
bumatlarge
smurfingchobo
MidnightGladius
Lenwe
unsoundlogic
Hittegods
GranDim


First two are single checks, the last is meant to open a few more doors, hopefully.
Trust in Bayes.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 00:52:37
April 08 2008 00:49 GMT
#3857
I say you make these people vote for the same person:
MidnightGladius
Ninja4ever
Energies
Caller
LoStYouRSkills
BlindAlbino
Meta

I'm curious how many are mafia


Reminder:
Mandalor's codename has to be one of the ones listed below.

Mr. Blonde
Mr. White
Black Mamba
Snake Charmer
The Wolf

Edit: took lesser suspects off list and added one
lol, clueless in The Prism!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 08 2008 01:23 GMT
#3858
eh?

isnt mandalor mr blue?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 08 2008 01:29 GMT
#3859
On April 08 2008 09:49 Chezinu wrote:
I say you make these people vote for the same person:
MidnightGladius
Ninja4ever
Energies
Caller
LoStYouRSkills
BlindAlbino
Meta

I'm curious how many are mafia


Reminder:
Mandalor's codename has to be one of the ones listed below.

Mr. Blonde
Mr. White
Black Mamba
Snake Charmer
The Wolf

Edit: took lesser suspects off list and added one


why the hell am i a suspect
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
NatsuTerran
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States364 Posts
April 08 2008 01:43 GMT
#3860
I really don't think Caller is a mafia suspect. Just because there is stuff involving phones doesn't mean it's a clue. Chuiu just puts it in for the story. The same goes for martial arts clues. Last game Chuiu said he simply likes kicking. Otherwise yeah I like the idea of top suspects voting for one person just so we can see how many of our clues are lining up.
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