EPTOn March 23 2008 15:54 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
I miss the days of FakeSteve when the crowds roared outrage instead of praise
I miss the days of FakeSteve when the crowds roared outrage instead of praise
yes well look where that town ended up.
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
yes well look where that town ended up. | ||
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aZnvaLiaNce
United States942 Posts
On March 23 2008 17:04 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: yes well look where that town ended up. Hahaha, yeah, the town ended up giving up in despair rather than everyone dying. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32269 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On March 22 2008 20:34 Energies wrote: The fact that most of your suspects are completely different from mine makes me think that you are Mafia drawing attention away from your brethren, I vote we lynch the kiwi. I have 100% proof that he is Mafia, which I will reveal once he is lynched. What do you mean "the kiwi? Bastard! All seriousness aside, Ace's plan, thus far unrevealed, is curious. We can be fairly certain he is town, yes... but withdrawing our votes could have unforeseen consequences. Daytime has a habit of running out on us (read: me) in inopportune times. If the town (for townies are most likely to heed Ace's advice) withdraws it's votes, and the day runs out before Ace's plan comes to fruition... It could leave us in the situation where the Assassin's Guild could easily kill a townie (wasting our lynch, and killing one of us), without any serious effort on their part. That is to say, we won't be given a list of which 9 out of 11 people (or whatever it was... I was pushing up daisies at the time) are mafia. I've complied with Ace's request, and hope that the sun's course across the sky is slowed by Māui's jaw bone. Kia Kaha. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 23 2008 18:52 Scorch wrote: i will not retract my vote for Ghar yet. i'm 80% convinced of his guilt, and even if he's inactive, it's still a mafia kill. my vote will remain until Ace rationally convinces me of a better target and explains to me his reasoning. post or PM me your strategic plan and i may comply. i trust and support you, but not blindly. I'll explain it fully once I get this new information. As to the other post, if everyone tried to retract their votes but a few didn't and got an innocent lynched even better - I just ask a DT to ask Chuiu how many Mafia voted in that lynch and well that's a pretty good trade. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
What does Ghar mean? According to wikipedia ghar can be one of three things - a childrens book, a bollywood movie, or the hindi word for 'home'. What actions has Ghar taken - Campaigned hard for mayor - Activity dropped off over the weekend (no posting after the 20th) -> SMB has offered an explanation for this - Drew a picture of himself holding a mafias head in a campaign promotion tool Which character is suspected of being Ghar? + Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) Do they match? The first discrepancy is the timing. If SMB's explanation checks out then Ghar was not around to vote in the night phase of the game - thus works against him being mafia. However, he could have pm'd ahead of time with an explanation, dno. Ghar always portrays a sense of being well composed in his posts, and this characteristic checks out with Mr Pink. I think the phrase "reminding them" is particularly important, this implies that our Mr Pink has said that 'death is now a common thing in liquidia' or something to that effect already in this thread. I could quote some stuff that Ghar's said, but just take my word for it, Ghar has always seemed complacent about killing people. His signup thread post was 'lemme at em', the emphasis on DEATH in his picture etc. but this does NOT coincide with Mr Pink's attitude imo or with what he was reminding liquidia. The "Meteor Hammer" point raised earlier on makes me think that Ghar is being set up. Ghar's own mayor plan would have himself lynched in the first day if he was mafia. That in addition to a number of similarities not definite links between himself and Mr Pink make me think that is was someone who worked closely with Ghar - not Ghar himself. However, this could be completely wrong as "Meteor Hammer" is in Kill Bill not reservoir dogs (where Mr pink comes from iirc). In conclusion,. there is enough doubt to make me think that Ghar is not mafia, but in fact is being set up by the clues (ala Live2Win) and i suspect it is someone who would be connected to Ghar in some way. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On March 23 2008 12:33 Ace wrote: I'm asking everyone retract votes because when the suspect is confirmed, I want everyone to vote the exact same. And I don't want Ghar to be even near the chopping block and get lynched because people "forgot to sign on in time to change their vote". do i interpret this correctly? you have a detective confirming someone's guilt? and you believe Ghar is innocent? then what prevents you from telling us right away who we should lynch? | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
Still, I'm not abstaining yet - I think that in the case I forgot to change vote, it would be better to vote for Ghar than to abstain. And if there will be better subject, then I won't forget  | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
While the evidence against ghar is rather condemning, it's all rather circumstantial. Ghar's sig (which i am aware of but simply forgot to include it) fits the night scene perfectly. Delving further Mr Pink should be the "Red Horseman" ie the horse of war. This further reinforces the mafia connection.. Considering this fact, (disregard my first sentence) here is a list of facts against him; * Drawing of head * Accepting of death * Fits horseman description * Martial arts -> able fighter * Character seems to fit with Mr Pink's Against; * Chuiu possibly didn't know about the martial arts connection * Ghar's motives in being campaigning don't stack up to a mafia candidate ----------------------------------------- Original Message: hi! i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning: "All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time." this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing. now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits... Traits - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) ... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well. furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly. and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well. | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On March 23 2008 21:06 Bockit wrote: iirc, mafia submit their votes Chuiu once day turns to night- ghar wasn't around to vote What's this 'night vote' thing? | ||
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On March 23 2008 21:12 Bockit wrote: im sure that the hits are still associated to particular mafia members.. but i might be wrong Don't mafia have the advantage where they just send in a list of suspects(not voted on)? I remember people (Read: Tracil) bringing that up as imba in the previous game... has it changed? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
You will know who your fellow mafia members are and get the ability to kill townies each night. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
During the night mafia will collectively decide on and send in their hits to me, who they want dead (its a good idea to discuss them during day so you know ahead of time). Casts doubt on the "each mafia is directly related" deal.. Chuiu (or anyone), can you clear this up? Does each mafia need to vote for townies to kill? | ||
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