Team Liquid Mafia [gg]

On February 18 2008 02:07 Caller wrote:
i have this feeling that i'm going to die this night. so... im going to post a list of suspects ive had.

. ShaLLoW[baY]
2. SoMuchBetter
3. Eti307
4. HotZhot
5. NotSorry
31. Drowsy
39. chicken`
70. to miss the mark
50. nemY
66. Folca
17. NeoIllusions
52. Valentine
53. SiZ.FaNtAsY

also one of the live2win/fakesteve/somuchbetter/tracil group smells funny. cant put my finger on it though. where is tracil anyways?

On February 20 2008 08:47 Caller wrote:
updated vote list fyi

Live2Win
Caller
Alventenie
Nemy (definitely)
NotSorry
Folca
Southlight

Caller
Nemy (definitely)
Tracil
Vharox
Eti307
Amber[light]

SoMuchBetter
CDRDude

NotSorry
Wurm

Goldenkrnboi
Demonic_phate
ZaplinG

On February 20 2008 13:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
yeah thats a way to look at it

caller is one of the bodyguards, way to go retards lets lynch someone else

On February 20 2008 13:59 Caller wrote:


nemy for the last time that was a bunch of people i picked out of the list at random, its nothing personal lol

On February 22 2008 05:37 Southlight wrote:
nemY
Some kind of creepy goth-emo
http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/22908.jpg?1186724110

On February 22 2008 07:16 Empyrean wrote:
She's like...15

...

On February 22 2008 11:40 NotSorry wrote:

Even creepier, the 12yr old fact was the only redeeming quality.

On February 23 2008 15:22 Tracil wrote:
Sure we do. Most townies aren't saying anything, arguing in any direction, and pop in with oneliner votes. SoMuchBetter basically posted nothing for the entire game, except at the very end of his life. FakeSteve's pointless insults, lack of contributions, willingness to attempt nothing but play the blame game on those who do (until the very end, when he was getting somewhat better.)

Scum could be doing nothing and we wouldn't even know, because the same goes for most townies.

<->

When day hits tomorrow I will be doing a fairly sizable post and looking at the previous vote records for patterns. I have nothing else to say during night, and feel it would be wiser to keep my suspicions to myself until the numbers have whittled down a bit.

On February 24 2008 02:14 wurm wrote:
Funny. Mayor got lynched by townies, I'm getting votes by people who I was pretty sure aren't mafia, and those who I am sure are mafia are still alive. Go us!

No pardon of FakeSteve from Tracil, pretty sure equals mafia. Even FakeSteve voted Tracil as freakin' mafia. Go read the last 50 pages or so, all signs point to him. I was sure at Day 1 that FakeSteve wasn't mafia. Yes, he didn't campaign as hard as Tracil, but he got the job anyway. Either Tracil was so jealous of losing out to FakeSteve or he wanted a mafioso take the position(i.e. himself).

Live2Win and NotSorry, i've been tracking most of your posts, NotSorry I'm pretty convinced you are not mafia, but since your accusation of me came from nowhere with no hard evidence to back it up, your on my suspect list once again. Same goes for Live2Win, he had me going with the whole "I'm a Paramedic" bit, but if you were a true paramedic and DIDN'T SUSPECT FAKESTEVE OF BEING MAFIA, WHY DIDN'T YOU PROTECT HIM?

nemY, after learning that I put a vote on him, put a vote for me also, taking my vote total to 3. Funny how no one else is convinced or suspects me of being mafia except you three. The whole "You voted for me, so I vote for you" bit doesn't work here either, cause I know for a fact, that I wasn't the first person to vote for you. Seems that way since in the last vote tally, only my name is listed. BUT before that last vote tally, i'm pretty sure it was me and someone else. Why not put a vote for him too?

Seems I am on track of flushing out a few mafia, and they are trying to put out a bounty on my head. Fellow townies, take it for what it's worth. I've nothing to hide.

EDIT: BAM! Found the vote count, why am I not surprised?
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On February 26 2008 05:36 Empyrean wrote:


I think you're just bitter that you're the only mafia member dead.

Dogma: I am God.

On February 26 2008 08:14 NotSorry wrote:
My vote is Nemy, not because I think he's mafia, I already told everyone who was mafia already anyways, but rather because he is obsessed with a ugly ass emo goth grandma who's older than my mother for crying out loud you sick fuck!

On February 26 2008 08:15 ZBiR wrote:


He already had this quote since who-knows-when (a long time )

On February 26 2008 08:22 Empyrean wrote:


1. I tell Shallow to shut up because I'm mafia.
2. My signature has always been that because I'm mafia.

On February 26 2008 09:22 Fishball wrote:


LMAO joke of the month
That's why we townies success!

On February 27 2008 13:42 NotSorry wrote:
I've said this about miss the mark countless time in the last 100 or so pages and no one even blinked, yet now someone else posts and everyone has a fucking revelation?

On February 29 2008 13:48 NotSorry wrote:
I won't die, why waste a mob kill when town is just going to lynch me tomorrow anyways ^ ^

On March 01 2008 02:56 Fen wrote:
Ok, assuming Live2Win is mafia, lets look at the game.

- A reoccurring theme is that a mafia with a syringe is injecting people with a substance that seems like it is supposed to increase strength. It fits the description of a stim very well and the best fit is Live2Win's Sig.

- He gets in trouble and is about to be townie lynched. He looks at the list, realises that there are 4 paramedic positions still alive. Chances are, one is not playing and he can assume that role. His move pays off.

- After announcing to everyone that he is a paramedic, he is not attacked by the mafia. You would assume the mafia would want to take paramedics down as their power becomes greater as the townie numbers decrease.

- After becoming the medic that is supposed to watch over the townies most valuble asset, he "accidently" sends the PM to the wrong person and the detective dies.

This info is pretty solid against you Live2Win. I'm interested to hear your counterargument.

EDIT: only to make it more readable

On March 02 2008 14:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:


Join the club

On March 02 2008 14:43 Falcynn wrote:
Alright, the way I see it anyone who's on the list of 9 (or 7 now) will probably be safe this night. The reason I say this is because by lynching correctly, our chance of hitting someone on the list next day has dropped to 42%, since the mafia obviously doesn't want to make it easier for us to dwindle their numbers down they'll leave the remaining 4 townies on that list alone to keep our odds of hitting scum down. So if you're a medic...I'm going to hope that you can leave us alone and try to save someone who probably will get hit.

On the offchance that I'm wrong and a few of us do get hit, well then as I said it'll at least make it easier to target the mafia, so our deaths won't totally be in vain.

Just in case I'll also do another run through of all the clues and report any new things I might find in case this happens to be my last night.

Edit: oh and nemY, I'm very suspicious of you now...you should be relieved you're not on the list

On March 03 2008 02:23 goldenkrnboi wrote:


i think it's possible for them to lead a crusade against lynching an innocent victim.

i highly doubt they would lead a crusade against a mafioso, when they know exactly know who's in the mafia. o.o

On March 02 2008 21:23 Tracil wrote:
I believe it is because it was a oneliner of intense frustration from you, who has after a quick search not actually posted a defence of unforgiven throughout the day, despite being willing to bitch out town for voting him... and then he flips scum.

I dunno, though, I don't really believe genuine scum would say something like that *after* the lynch had already been decided. But in tl.net mafia, everything I know is wrong, so yeah! This is pretty weak by itself, still.

On March 03 2008 02:02 Empyrean wrote:
nemY is still voting for NotSorry. I have no clue why. He also posted, somewhat jokingly, that Unforgiven_ve shouldn't have been a mafia member. I have a few doubts as to what he may be. He seems to really like accusing other people on the stupidest of clues. Keep in mind, all the clues we've used so far have been blatant. To miss the mark's name was basically dropped inside a clue, as well as unforgiven's "You won't be forgiven". All of his wild accusations basically just cause townies to go against each other, which is EXACTLY WHAT THE MAFIA WANT. It's pretty obvious that the "You won't be forgiven" clue doesn't point to NotSorry, as it was directed at unforgiven. I don't really suspect NotSorry at the moment. So why would nemY still vote for someone who's pretty much confirmed not to be a mafioso?

Summary: my suspicions = nemY and zdd. If anyone has the same thoughts, please post them. If anyone has contrary opinions, please post them too. It's best for the town's interest to stir up debate, as mafia members'll probably reveal themselves.

On March 02 2008 14:43 Falcynn wrote:
Edit: oh and nemY, I'm very suspicious of you now...you should be relieved you're not on the list

On March 09 2008 01:09 Empyrean wrote:
Well this is just great. Here are my immediate suspicions:

How could SO MANY FREAKING VIGILANTES DIE? They all probably messaged a paramedic looking for protection, knowing that the vigilantes would be needed for the upcoming days in order to help us win. So who is the only "paramedic" we know? Live2Win. Has he actually successfully protected anyone? No. He "accidentally" forgot to protect the ONE active detective we had.

So after the vigilantes told Live2Win that they were vigilantes, Live2Win could potentially have passed the information to the mafia. And that would only happen if he himself were mafia.

Thus, I vote for Live2Win

On March 09 2008 03:10 Empyrean wrote:


How do you know he protected HotZhot? I must have missed it. What page is it on?

On March 09 2008 03:22 Falcynn wrote:
Also as I've said like...3 times? We already lost, it is literally impossible for us to win. We have no double lynches and our vigilantes are dead. Even if a mafia decided to just come out and say

"LULZ I'M MAFIA, AND HERE'S A LIST OF ALL THE OTHER MAFIA!!!!"

We would still lose because there's no way for us to kill them fast enough. So at this point I'd say people should be allowed to vote however the hell they want. zdd is already 100% mafia imo and I just want to find out if L2W is as well since I want to figure out how the hell we lost those vigilantes.

On March 11 2008 12:44 Chuiu wrote:
Final Vote Count:

Live2Win - 7
Empyrean
Fen
Vharox
ZaplinG
ieatkids5
Southlight
SiZ.FaNtAsY

zdd - 3
HotZhot
nemY
Falcynn

MyHeroNoob
Live2Win

Tracil
Caller

NotSorry
zdd

13 of 33 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night momentarily.

On March 11 2008 13:30 Falcynn wrote:
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


I FUCKING TRICKED ALL OF YOU!!!! HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU GUYS NOT REALIZE I WAS MAFIA!!!!
I played my cards right putting out good clues when it was obvious a bandwagon was starting against a towny, and backing off not saying anything when bandwagons were starting against mafia, it was perfect!



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On March 11 2008 13:36 Falcynn wrote:
If that's some weird mafia speak for saying your mafia, save it, I already know

Edit: in response to nemY

On March 13 2008 04:29 Alventenie wrote:
I just reread the clue paragraph, and one of our vigilantes (EmeraldSparks) i believe didn't kill anyone? or if he did he didn't have any clues pointed to him =(.

On March 09 2008 03:05 nemY wrote:



You're so full of shit. L2W protected HotZhot. Fuck you I'm voting zdd for mafia. Let's at least get the one guy we know is Mafia!

On March 03 2008 02:02 Empyrean wrote:
nemY is still voting for NotSorry. I have no clue why. He also posted, somewhat jokingly, that Unforgiven_ve shouldn't have been a mafia member. I have a few doubts as to what he may be. He seems to really like accusing other people on the stupidest of clues. Keep in mind, all the clues we've used so far have been blatant. To miss the mark's name was basically dropped inside a clue, as well as unforgiven's "You won't be forgiven". All of his wild accusations basically just cause townies to go against each other, which is EXACTLY WHAT THE MAFIA WANT. It's pretty obvious that the "You won't be forgiven" clue doesn't point to NotSorry, as it was directed at unforgiven. I don't really suspect NotSorry at the moment. So why would nemY still vote for someone who's pretty much confirmed not to be a mafioso?

Summary: my suspicions = nemY and zdd. If anyone has the same thoughts, please post them. If anyone has contrary opinions, please post them too. It's best for the town's interest to stir up debate, as mafia members'll probably reveal themselves.

EDIT: Fixed something minor. Check the timestamps to ensure that I didn't change my post in response to someone else's.

On March 13 2008 11:04 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Oh, by the way, my edited post after Day 4? Before the edit it went something along the lines of "HAHA I'M A VIG AND I TOTALLY KILLED JEEJEE ALSO IF YOU KILL ME TONIGHT ITS OKAY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DO MY SECOND MURDERING TONIGHT AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT HAHAHAHAHAHA."

But then I realized it was a bad idea. I don't know how nobody saw it in the five minutes it was there.