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If it does turn out that you're townie, though, whomever you suspect will pretty much be under intense scrutiny. Since that's the case, I'd just recommend posting a "last will" of sorts while you're still alive. If you're townie, in death you'll be vindicated. | ||
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On March 11 2008 04:05 Live2Win wrote: I want to know why Tracil has gone mia during the last day/night cycle. PM him and find out. | ||
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Eti307 and I are writing a mafia game wrap-up, as in the lines of TL.net's Travian Experience (read the articles). We're doing a report interspersed with interview questions, and we'll have details on all points of view as well as mafia strategy. We have Me, Eti307, Fen and Vharox giving insight to the mafia, as well as alventenie for the detective. We ask for any townie (especially active ones such as Caller, nemY, Tracil, etc.) to give their inputs and what they thought at different times of day. Also: a little bit of my strategy: In this game, I was basically playing the role of clueless newbie who is suspicious enough to be mafia, but is naive enough about the game to potentially be innocent. Early on the game, I was planning to "sacrifice" myself to Tracil by supporting him in basically everything and letting myself get detected, but that didn't appear to be necessary once the game wore on. I'll explain a lot more in detail. I had a whole post with very intentionally flawed statistics (I did a flawed Gosset's t-test while disregarding independence and randomness conditions) in order to "prove" that some of my targets were mafia. That wasn't necessary either. A lot more'll be coming up in the report, however. So please give me any and all insights. If you're willing to contribute, please PM me. | ||
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On March 12 2008 10:25 Fishball wrote: Just so you guys know, eti307 was the guy behind the scene, coordinating and calling most of the shots for Mafias. Yeah. Him, me, Vharox and Fen had a long slew of mafia PMs going, and I'll post some in the upcoming report we're about to write. Little teaser: I wrote in a PM: + Show Spoiler + Your last minute switch once you knew Tracil wouldn't be lynched is pretty suspicious to me ;D Anyway, since our killing power hasn't been diminished, I recommend hitting everyone who has been active in the past few pages. I don't think townies are notified if paramedics watch them. I'd like two hits put on alventenie, the detective. He's most likely being watched. To alleviate their concerns, I'm about to ask alventenie to ask if I'm mafia. Unfortunately, he'll be dead. Ha! Anyway, after this night, I'm pretty sure we'll be able to brute force some votes. Unfortunately, the town knows that of the people who voted for Tracil, 5/9 were mafia. The response: + Show Spoiler + you tought exactly the same as me, fen and unforgiven Here's the list we propose: 1- Alventenie 2- Alventenie 3- ulszz 4- cdrdude 5- ZBir 6- infinity21 Btw it wasn't a switch, I didn't vote yet at the time. I think voting for tmtm drop suspicions on me until we kill everyone who voted for him but me lol Fortunately I didn't vote for tracil, the detective would've found another mafia in the list what do you think And lol@never suspecting me for the piano clue as well as basically four freebie clues about God. | ||
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On March 12 2008 10:33 Alventenie wrote: i think the piano clue was vague, because most people dont really know much about them or performances (i dont). I suspected you with the multiple god comments, but they didnt seem strong enough until after i was dead (because the other person i thought they could relate to died). And yes, i had 1 paramedic watching me when i died =/, too bad someone ELSE (cough L2W cough) didnt protect me or i woulda lived. Yeah, I suggested two hits put on you. You should have put all the paramedics on yourself ;D Anyway, you're still interested in giving me your thoughts, right? If you could just comb through your thoughts after each day/night cycle transpired. I'm very interested as to who you thought the God clues could have related to. They were pretty much directed at me, but I guess my combination of staying calmish while showing slight indignity and lots of feigned naivety sort of played out in my favor :D | ||
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On March 12 2008 10:58 qrs wrote: FWIW, I vote for no more than 24. As long as most people are voting most of the time, it doesn't matter if people miss occasional votes, so why drag out the game? To Empyrean or other Mafioso, I'm very curious: Was Shallow[bay] a maverick or were the Dr. Dragoon episode and/or his pointing to the "iaaagh" clue part of the plan? As far as I know, he was just acting out. Very dumb move on his part. I'm really interested in what he has to say. | ||
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On March 12 2008 11:11 CDRdude wrote: A question to the mafia: why didn't any of you run for mayor? Did you not realize that a mafioso could run for mayor, or were you trying to lay low? Or was there another reason of which I am unaware. My theory is that we didn't want to being any undue suspicion to ourselves. Once all the candidates for mayor were dead, if one of us were still alive, it'd be pretty suspicion. However, if there are only two candidates alive and neither of them were mafia, it would be highly suspicious - we'd be basically assured that one of them would get lynched in the following days, giving us more time to strategically kill people. We'd pick targets that one of the suspects has directly opposed in previous pages, casting lots of suspicions on that candidate. | ||
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Why did you PM Shallow, though? He wouldn't have revealed anything. EDIT: This is directed at the long series of PMs with Plexa. Also, I'm very curious as to Tracil's thoughts. | ||
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How did that relate to me? Misguided position? EDIT: I'm off to bed! This has got to be some sort of record...taking only six days in order to force victory :D (or at least having the townies resign). | ||
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The reason why I didn't change my signature after all the clues pointed at me was that it'd be even more suspicious. If all these clues pointed to my old signature, then I change it and another clue points at the new one, that'd basically 100% mark me as a mafia. I assumed townies would keep a running tally of important information such as this. And thanks for thoughts, Tracil. | ||
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Each mafia member may only submit one name to Chuiu. That way, inactive mafia members (of which there were) would also be punished. | ||
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On March 13 2008 10:29 Falcynn wrote: Also, since the game's over. Can the mafia please elaborate how they killed the 2 vigilantes? Pure dumb luck? Or was there some elaborate plan set up to get the vigilantes to reveal themselves to you? All will be revealed in my wrap-up! I have my analysis up to Valentine's day at around 7:00ish. It's fun reading all these old posts and trying to remember what I was thinking. I'm sending a draft of my thoughts of the initial day to Eti right now. It's currently 1498 words. And that's only up to immediately following the election. But to answer your question, we went through the game with the assumption that most of the inactive people were vanilla townies - why else would they be inactive? We had a high chance to hit some special roles, and by some stroke of luck managed to kill two vigilantes in the same night. Coincidence! | ||
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