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On February 12 2008 12:18 dancefayedance!~ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:12 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 12:09 Alethios wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 CDRdude wrote:
Dammit, I made that vertically challenged post AFTER the clue was posted. Look at the timestamps. Also, look at what I was replying to. Wow... can't edit. Funny that I was just advocating that if you had read it, you wouldn't have made that mistake... then you tell us that you hadn't read it when you posted the message... interesting.... You misunderstand me (or I'm missing your point, one of the two). What I'm saying, is that unless Chuiu can predict the future, he could not have meant that specific remark of mine to be a clue, because the clue about "that's low, even for you" was posted before my comment about height. but if you're a mafia member you know that it was a red herring and it points to none of the mafia members. you saw the posts that spent time analyzing that clue. knowing it was a red herring while other people didn't, you intentionally slipped. this 'slip' was supposed to make us believe you arent a mafia member because you wouldn't leave a clue like that. And you cant make the excuse that the clue didnt point to you so your comment has nothing to do with it. okay so the clue didnt point to you and it may not point to anyone, but you did that on purpose to make yourself look like an "idiot mafioso ", but really you knew it would make us all think that you were a townie instead because mafia members can't be that dumb and just give away clues like that.
Thats like an "if I think that you think that I think that you think that I think that you think that I think that you think" sorta thing
In sum, some people are WAY to paranoid oO
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On February 12 2008 12:18 dancefayedance!~ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:12 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 12:09 Alethios wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 CDRdude wrote:
Dammit, I made that vertically challenged post AFTER the clue was posted. Look at the timestamps. Also, look at what I was replying to. Wow... can't edit. Funny that I was just advocating that if you had read it, you wouldn't have made that mistake... then you tell us that you hadn't read it when you posted the message... interesting.... You misunderstand me (or I'm missing your point, one of the two). What I'm saying, is that unless Chuiu can predict the future, he could not have meant that specific remark of mine to be a clue, because the clue about "that's low, even for you" was posted before my comment about height. but if you're a mafia member you know that it was a red herring and it points to none of the mafia members. you saw the posts that spent time analyzing that clue. knowing it was a red herring while other people didn't, you intentionally slipped. this 'slip' was supposed to make us believe you arent a mafia member because you wouldn't leave a clue like that. And you cant make the excuse that the clue didnt point to you so your comment has nothing to do with it. okay so the clue didnt point to you and it may not point to anyone, but you did that on purpose to make yourself look like an "idiot mafioso ", but really you knew it would make us all think that you were a townie instead because mafia members can't be that dumb and just give away clues like that.
Man. Your recent wild accusations make me think that you're a mafioso :/
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On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that?
I think that the argument lies in the fact that he seems pretty dumb, and the town would be better off without him, even if he isn't mafioso. Also, I still think you're a mafioso. Too many people are popping up and voting for you, without any other comments, which says (to me, at least) that the other mafia, which know who you are, are voting you in as a mafia candidate for mayor.
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On February 12 2008 12:22 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that? I think that the argument lies in the fact that he seems pretty dumb, and the town would be better off without him, even if he isn't mafioso. Also, I still think you're a mafioso. Too many people are popping up and voting for you, without any other comments, which says (to me, at least) that the other mafia, which know who you are, are voting you in as a mafia candidate for mayor.
Now you're just being a jerk.
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On February 12 2008 12:22 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:18 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 12:12 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 12:09 Alethios wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 CDRdude wrote:
Dammit, I made that vertically challenged post AFTER the clue was posted. Look at the timestamps. Also, look at what I was replying to. Wow... can't edit. Funny that I was just advocating that if you had read it, you wouldn't have made that mistake... then you tell us that you hadn't read it when you posted the message... interesting.... You misunderstand me (or I'm missing your point, one of the two). What I'm saying, is that unless Chuiu can predict the future, he could not have meant that specific remark of mine to be a clue, because the clue about "that's low, even for you" was posted before my comment about height. but if you're a mafia member you know that it was a red herring and it points to none of the mafia members. you saw the posts that spent time analyzing that clue. knowing it was a red herring while other people didn't, you intentionally slipped. this 'slip' was supposed to make us believe you arent a mafia member because you wouldn't leave a clue like that. And you cant make the excuse that the clue didnt point to you so your comment has nothing to do with it. okay so the clue didnt point to you and it may not point to anyone, but you did that on purpose to make yourself look like an "idiot mafioso ", but really you knew it would make us all think that you were a townie instead because mafia members can't be that dumb and just give away clues like that. Man. Your recent wild accusations make me think that you're a mafioso :/
it's strange because i thought the same of you. you play piano right? hmmm.. if i recall don't pianist bow "As if ceremoniously, with an arm extended" to the crowd?
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This is so complicated, I think we should just lynch something random, like prime numbers. Oh wait..Oh shi
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On February 12 2008 12:21 dancefayedance!~ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that? i posted this awhile back, but it sums up why i think dragoon may be a mafioso. "i sincerely believe dr.dragoon is mafia because of his reaction to shallow[bay]'s print screen. It does state in the very beginning that mafia members know other mafia members. why would dr.dragoon say shallow[bay] was a mafia member if he knew he was a mafia member himself?a rule we are all well aware of ( if we read the rules which im assuming you did) it's because dr.dragoon wanted to throw everyone into confusion! i think what dr.dragoon did is very cunning. he knew that it would be screen shotted. with this in mind he used a poor bait to throw us off. it wasn't that he was trying to bait shallow[bay] into admitting he was another mafia member ( because if shallow[bay] were he would know if dr.dragoon was a mafia member or not) it's because he wanted to use that poor attempt of a trap to really steer us away from believing he was a mafia member. now this is why i think shallow[bay] could be a mafia member. either dr.dragoon and shallow]bay] planned this, because for shallow[bay] to accuse dr.dragoon and post 'incriminating' evidence would mean that shallow[bay] has a shallow intelligence or because they both planned this out."
I agree with you utterly on this point. Either Dr.Dragoon or Shallow]bay] is lying. Given Dragoon's subsequent reactions however (post editing, accusations of others etc) i'm heavily leaning towards him being the lier.
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On February 12 2008 12:25 dancefayedance!~ wrote:
it's strange because i thought the same of you. you play piano right? hmmm.. if i recall don't pianist bow "As if ceremoniously, with an arm extended" to the crowd?
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...pianists don't bow that way. You ever see a performance?
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On February 12 2008 09:54 Live2Win wrote:LOOOOOL omg this is hilarious. Let's take this and break it down (after I stop laughing) I think it's much more powerful that Dr.Dragoon is mafia than ShaLLoW[baY]. 1. If shallow was a mafia, he would never expose a fellow mafia. 2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a very stupid idea, something that anyone with half a brain wouldn't do. Why? Because obviously the person who was being targetted would retaliate, reject that such a message was ever sent, and defend himself. 3. Dr.Dragoon's reply was Clearly proving that he was mafia. If he was NOT mafia, his first reply would be "What the hell I never posted that!". I don't think we can lynch yet, but if we can, I vote we lynch Dr.Dragoon
Disprove all three points, and I will change my opinion
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On February 12 2008 12:27 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
This is so complicated, I think we should just lynch something random, like prime numbers. Oh wait..Oh shi
Typical behavior from one who knows he is a gonner. Oh shi... i'm going to be lynched. I know... suggest alternatives. Farewell my good sir.
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I'm starting to beleive that if you just shut your mouth up and stay quiet you have a much higher chance at survival. Otherwise people will look you up, devise some crackpot reason for you being the mafioso, declare their reasons....
Madness? THIS IS TL MAFIA!!!!!!
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On February 12 2008 12:29 demonic_phate wrote:
I'm starting to beleive that if you just shut your mouth up and stay quiet you have a much higher chance at survival. Otherwise people will look you up, devise some crackpot reason for you being the mafioso, declare their reasons....
Madness? THIS IS TL MAFIA!!!!!!
Then again, if we're all silent, the mafia might just randomly start picking among us randomly.
And who wants to play Russian Roulette with mafia?
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Live2Win
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On February 12 2008 12:19 Alethios wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:16 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 12:12 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:10 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Just so you all know, even if I die, I can still post here to taunt you all! I'll let you post. If you try to sway votes or do something a dead person shouldn't be able to do I'll have to bring out my hammer. Do something a dead person shouldn't be able to? the rule is if someone dies from mafia or gets lynched they shouldn't be able to post, since they might sway votes. But I think it'll be better if dead people still post, but nothing that would directly effect the game. You mean affect. Psychoanalytically, your nervousness at being discovered to be a mafia hit man is manifesting itself in your choice of words. Lynch him!
I suck at telling the difference on when to use which one.
What nervousness are you talking about? Are talking to me or Dragoon?
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1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop.
3. Simply a joke post, check out a lot of my earlier posts where I'm just joking around.
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On February 12 2008 12:29 Alethios wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:27 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
This is so complicated, I think we should just lynch something random, like prime numbers. Oh wait..Oh shi Typical behavior from one who knows he is a gonner. Oh shi... i'm going to be lynched. I know... suggest alternatives. Farewell my good sir.
My number is 13, a number generally considered bad luck, AND a prime number. Just a joke :O
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On February 12 2008 12:30 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:19 Alethios wrote:On February 12 2008 12:16 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 12:12 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:10 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Just so you all know, even if I die, I can still post here to taunt you all! I'll let you post. If you try to sway votes or do something a dead person shouldn't be able to do I'll have to bring out my hammer. Do something a dead person shouldn't be able to? the rule is if someone dies from mafia or gets lynched they shouldn't be able to post, since they might sway votes. But I think it'll be better if dead people still post, but nothing that would directly effect the game. You mean affect. Psychoanalytically, your nervousness at being discovered to be a mafia hit man is manifesting itself in your choice of words. Lynch him! I suck at telling the difference on when to use which one. What nervousness are you talking about? Are talking to me or Dragoon?
In general:
Affect - X affects Y
Effect - Reach's storms effectively have a wider area of effect than Jangbi's cheap effects.
I was talking about your nervousness, but only jokingly. Fare thee well.
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On February 12 2008 12:24 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:22 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that? I think that the argument lies in the fact that he seems pretty dumb, and the town would be better off without him, even if he isn't mafioso. Also, I still think you're a mafioso. Too many people are popping up and voting for you, without any other comments, which says (to me, at least) that the other mafia, which know who you are, are voting you in as a mafia candidate for mayor. Now you're just being a jerk.
Yes, but other people think it too:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=18#344
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=18#354
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=20#387
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On February 12 2008 12:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop.
So you're saying either shallow is a liar or you are? But in #1 you admit that shallow is not a mafia?
WAT?
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On February 12 2008 12:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop.
3. Simply a joke post, check out a lot of my earlier posts where I'm just joking around.
Technically your declaration of him not being in the mafia indicates you as a mafioso because how else would you know if he's not....
*prepares self to be psychoanalyzed by the various members of tl.net*
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On February 12 2008 12:38 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop. So you're saying either shallow is a liar or you are? But in #1 you admit that shallow is not a mafia? WAT?
How could you he possibly know Shallow wasn't of the death legion? Only people any of us can be reasonably certain about not being mafia are those killed last night.
Bring out your pitchforks and torches...
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