I'm aware that I look bad, I guess, and I can't deny I'm somewhat biased.

I stand by my points, though. (My game failed for reasons that had nothing to do with the setup, anyway.)

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

March 13 2008 02:03 GMT

#3202

haaaaaahahahahaha

i told you you guys were dead

EmeraldSparks

United States1451 Posts

March 13 2008 02:04 GMT

#3203

Oh, by the way, my edited post after Day 4? Before the edit it went something along the lines of "HAHA I'M A VIG AND I TOTALLY KILLED JEEJEE ALSO IF YOU KILL ME TONIGHT ITS OKAY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DO MY SECOND MURDERING TONIGHT AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT HAHAHAHAHAHA."

But then I realized it was a bad idea. I don't know how nobody saw it in the five minutes it was there.

Tracil

Australia505 Posts

March 13 2008 02:09 GMT

#3204

I saw that, actually.

I figured you were telling the truth and didn't want to tell everyone else. >_>

randombum

United States2378 Posts

March 13 2008 02:36 GMT

#3205

I actually like tracil's way. The major differences to me are not the low number of mafia/town ratio, but rather the lack of clues. I mean reading clues screwed up the town more than it helped, this may be because of bad townies,good mafia, or clues that could lead to more than one person (Dr.dragoon for instance.) While tracil's way is to find people by their words and actions which in turn requires posting. I prefer reading posts and votes and trying to trace those back than deciphering clues in which I could be wrong, but convince myself I'm right. (Because of red herrings, the kicking example provided by chuiu led me partly to vigilante kill chicken~ cause I associated chickens to kicking).

One could make the argument I could misinterpret posts, but that's find and part of the game and I can compare all their posts and votes and eventually (hopefully) figure out their townie/mafiahood. Where as I do not not the bases behind dapperdan's or chuiu's clues.

Both ways have their faults, and both have advantages. Stop the hate and share the love guys.

qrs

United States3637 Posts

March 13 2008 03:24 GMT

#3206

The reason I see for having clues is not so much that they lead directly to IDing mafia as that they provide a first basis for accusations. If you can never have a foundation for accusing someone, how can you judge anything by reactions, etc? It seems like it would lead nowhere. OTOH, Tracil has played Mafia before, and he says it works fine without clues, so what do I know?

Alventenie

United States2147 Posts

March 13 2008 03:28 GMT

#3207

I told you Empyrean, that if you need any more information from me, give me a pm back with questions. I had more stuff but i didnt think it was relevant because alot of things i thought about were while i was away from the computer, and never wrote down.

OneBlueAugust

United States153 Posts

March 13 2008 03:28 GMT

#3208

Sign me up for next game please

nemY

United States3119 Posts

March 13 2008 03:31 GMT

#3209

On March 13 2008 11:04 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Oh, by the way, my edited post after Day 4? Before the edit it went something along the lines of "HAHA I'M A VIG AND I TOTALLY KILLED JEEJEE ALSO IF YOU KILL ME TONIGHT ITS OKAY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DO MY SECOND MURDERING TONIGHT AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT HAHAHAHAHAHA."

But then I realized it was a bad idea. I don't know how nobody saw it in the five minutes it was there.

Yeah I saw it, but I don't remember it mentioning that you were vigilante status, I thought it said something about you being mafia lol.

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

March 13 2008 03:33 GMT

#3210

On March 13 2008 09:53 fusionsdf wrote:
tracil: Your game is boring. This one was fun. Get over it.

actually i much preferred tracil's setup. i hope he starts it up again (and gets an assistant that's a little more careful xD).

that said, i still can't wait for this one too! it might be a lil too big for my liking but we'll see

Tracil

Australia505 Posts

March 13 2008 03:55 GMT

#3211

Yeah. I have no problem admitting that my style tends to have a very weird day 1 that's difficult to get started for town. There's just nothing to go on early. That's why I'm thinking of incorporating the mayor role- an election demands a response and promotes the earlygame discussion.

EmeraldSparks

United States1451 Posts

March 13 2008 04:12 GMT

#3212

IME clueless days begin with lots of really random accusations and then everybody talks for a dozen pages and then we start looking for suspicious people.

Tracil

Australia505 Posts

March 13 2008 04:15 GMT

#3213

Yeah pretty much.

randombum

United States2378 Posts

March 13 2008 04:16 GMT

#3214

I don't know, in 8 pages of tracil's game I managed to get 7 people to believe I was mafia. In a game of 30 that's a decent amount considering they had nothing to go on except my actions. (they were all wrong though, but many of them changed their opinions after several lengthy posts from me, but thats irrelevent)

My point is that you can form opinions very easily from a few posts, and that drives the game cause usually they are wrong at first. Then people are like your the first person to vote bum he's townie YOUR mafia!!! It goes on like that for a couple days before night actions and such start playing a noticeable pattern.

EAGER-beaver

Canada2799 Posts

March 13 2008 04:21 GMT

#3215

Neato, sounds exactly like a game I play with my friends when we go camping called werewolf. Instead of mafia, there are werewolves and each player is given a card to designate what their role is at the start of the game, and each night a scenario card is drawn which adds a twist to every day.

Tracil

Australia505 Posts

March 13 2008 04:23 GMT

#3216

Hahaha

Mafia and Werewolf are pretty much the same game, actually. Both are awesome.

I've heard, but not played variants called Mafia vs Werewolf where there's a mafia family and a pack of werewolves as WELL as town, and each side tries to be the only one left remaining.

randombum

United States2378 Posts

March 13 2008 04:25 GMT

#3217

Mafia AND Werewolf that's awesome. Let's throw in some Aliens and we can have a crazy 20v20v20v20 going ^^.... although I guess the lynching system won' really work. Although Mafia, werewolf, and human might work.

Tracil

Australia505 Posts

March 13 2008 04:37 GMT

#3218

I did see one game which had like 5 mafia 'families' and one (one!) townie.

Town almost won that game, too. Nobody knew there were so many families at the start, iirc.

Chuiu

3470 Posts

March 13 2008 04:46 GMT

#3219

Please stop posting here to sign up, I will have the new thread up in a few moments.

Chuiu

3470 Posts

March 13 2008 05:00 GMT

#3220

Team Liquid Mafia 2: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925

Manifesto7, lock this if you want, I really don't care either way since the game is over.