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On June 12 2024 02:27 Trfel wrote:
Scott31337, how are you on Arizona time living in the midwest? Those... aren't the same place?
Because my job is still based in Arizona so I start work at 11am EDT (8am AZ time)
And usually wake up around 10:30-10:45am
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On June 12 2024 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 02:07 Mocsta wrote:On June 12 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:On June 12 2024 01:31 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways dmb treat me as blue macosta
Is vivax still your scum read,?
As in you both are calling each other scum? Yes - and there's three theories I have 1. Mafia DMB saw the claim believed the claim told scum buddies of the claim - scum team thought Marv as more of a threat - Mafia DMB keeps posting about the claim in the thread 2. DMB is town 3. Mafia thought the claim was fake Which makes the most sense? There *HAS* to be scum between DMB/Sandroba.. im going to lose my hair if both are town Has to be scum between dmb/sandro Votes rayn
Hmmmm
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On June 12 2024 06:09 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Fuck it.
I'm not throwing but just lynch me out or replace whatever town prefers.
I got blindsided and was just tempted to post the word "post" a few hundred times to spite someone I wanted to visit this summer and couldn't quite suddenly due to organizational and financial restrictions.
That's shitty, and not usually what this game does with my psyche. I am usually emotional and sometimes toxic but usually not more so than some hell photos or evil rants that people (I hope) know are not entirely serious. (I don't hate Biden or trump for example as they aren't responsible for the US housing crisis.)
Fuck it. I am not going to let my government's corruption and environmentalist bullshit combined with my own poor scheduling ruin my reputation with what online friends I could make here.
/Replace
Sorry Grackaroni
Sorry town
Sorry mafia Aaaaand screw this, I wanted to avoid being a tantrum throwing bitch- so I bitched and threw a tantrum. Very sagacious behavior. Koshi you didn't offend me (sandroba did a little  ) you just frustrated me enough (because I was stressed already by shit that you had no bearing on) to want to do petty malicious bullshit and I caught myself. I wanted to spam out my filter to 20 pages and end it with "still sr me koshi?" And went "no I will not allow myself to keep doing this toxic bullshit" and then went and did a toxic bullshit. I will try to read recent stuff ':-S
Welcome back.
I know I asked before and you said you don't play that way, but I'm doing to ask again anyway.
Top three mafia?
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On June 12 2024 06:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 06:10 Alakaslam wrote:
We are thinking Sandro is mafia? Whose filter has the case? Rayn mine koshi
I do as well
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On June 12 2024 06:51 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 06:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 12 2024 06:10 Alakaslam wrote:
We are thinking Sandro is mafia? Whose filter has the case? Rayn mine koshi I do as well
Oh you meant filter
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On June 12 2024 06:59 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 12 2024 06:37 Alakaslam wrote:On June 11 2024 23:30 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:56 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 17:28 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba.
Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it.
AZ became dumb after being smart on D1.
Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause. So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia? I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of are you fucking stupid? let's go with yes as I'm reading what you're writing Koshi asked a yes/no question and I saw waffles Stupid, mofo waffles Tbh that was bad mocsta. well rayn was asked 2 things. 1 direct. 1 indirect Rayn answered neither Direct. "Was their deceit" = there was no need for deceit i.e. reframed scummy by dodging the questionIndirect. "But the talk was good.it felt like 5 townies" = mocsta shit. Az dumb. Trfel lost cause. Vivax lose causw
I.e. gives 2 of 5 a town read with a caveat... Again scummy reframe.Now.. the counter argument is that rayn is defensive due to votes. Yet... This is both overly antagonist (per my comments above) and bear in mind, as a town!rayn, koshi has mostly been an advocate for rayn and asked very politely. Even oats for all his abrasiveness and bravado does not ignore and reframe in this way. This for me is a very clear approach that only comes from.mafia mindset. my issue here is why is rayn dodging a simple.question. We have a town core which he refuses to acknowledge a town He won't talk to deceit being in place And is using language which conditions you to walk with a tail between your legs None of this is town Town would respond to the answer AND then switch agenda to their target OR ignore the question and switch agenda to target I repeat.. this is not town mentality This seems warranted Rayn, why not just answer directly? I literally talked about it in my post??? Baaaaah now I need to filter you too. Scott: if Sandro red, Sandro Mocsta Uuuhhhhhhhhhhhh Ask oats he has the last one, If Sandro green: Oats Rayn and third, Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Hmm Dmb?
I'm pretty sure Koshi is town.
Would you agree?
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On June 12 2024 08:27 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 08:23 Mocsta wrote:On June 12 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 12 2024 08:19 Mocsta wrote:On June 12 2024 08:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 12 2024 07:57 Mocsta wrote:
Oats - slam voting sandroba sealed his fate as majority
I'm going to keep my vote where it is
This is just a waiting game to deadline Why aren’t you trying to convince me to vote someone else? Have you seen the vote discrepancy? It's pointless. Literally this game feels like being in day 5 Yes oats I've given up for this cycle. You got your lynch let's see what unfolds It’s 6-3, hardly insurmountable Who? Scott's come in and won't change Slam came in and I assume wont change. Not even sure if here Trfel has been in and no change. Appreciate you are considering. That's a great sign. It's just it goes 5-5 on dmb but sandroba held 5 first and still is majority. Rayn koshi and me are here lol I really don’t get why you are being so defeatist
I'm here as well until deadline although I have some chores to do in between still and hopefully nothing blows up at work.
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On June 12 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 08:42 scott31337 wrote:On June 12 2024 08:27 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 12 2024 08:23 Mocsta wrote:On June 12 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 12 2024 08:19 Mocsta wrote:On June 12 2024 08:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 12 2024 07:57 Mocsta wrote:
Oats - slam voting sandroba sealed his fate as majority
I'm going to keep my vote where it is
This is just a waiting game to deadline Why aren’t you trying to convince me to vote someone else? Have you seen the vote discrepancy? It's pointless. Literally this game feels like being in day 5 Yes oats I've given up for this cycle. You got your lynch let's see what unfolds It’s 6-3, hardly insurmountable Who? Scott's come in and won't change Slam came in and I assume wont change. Not even sure if here Trfel has been in and no change. Appreciate you are considering. That's a great sign. It's just it goes 5-5 on dmb but sandroba held 5 first and still is majority. Rayn koshi and me are here lol I really don’t get why you are being so defeatist I'm here as well until deadline although I have some chores to do in between still and hopefully nothing blows up at work. Copy. You were pretty clear you will go sandroba >> dmb Let's leave that Separately, can you walk me through your koshi town read? Is it based on koshi, or dependent on team associations?l.as an example?
I did townlean rsoul, but rsoul is an extremely difficult read for me. Like her town/scum game seem very similar to me. So I go more on votes and actions/etc. But this info is in my filter.
So when Koshi replaces her - he did have some things going on for him. Koshi came in wrecking ball trying to figure this game out and with the typical town dgaf Koshi attitude. He has mostly similar thoughts as I do (there's a couple variations, but the consensus is there).
So that's the jist of it.
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On June 12 2024 09:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Scott did my answer help you?
Wanted to see where your head was. Thank you!
So yes, it did.
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On June 12 2024 09:40 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 09:30 scott31337 wrote:On June 12 2024 09:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Scott did my answer help you? Wanted to see where your head was. Thank you! So yes, it did. Help you form any reads?
I'd have to say a town point for you.
Otherwise reasonably the same.
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I'm not going to build a case in the last hour here but
First was the Keisl3r read that I thought was a bit out there
Second was this
On June 09 2024 06:54 scott31337 wrote:The major thing(s) with Sandroba is - Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 23:21 sandroba wrote: June 07 2024 10:21 EDT
I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me And then went to Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 05:43 sandroba wrote: June 07 2024 16:41 EDT
I'm getting weird vibes from kelsier too, but it's not overriding my town read from the mocsta interaction. I'd say I'd prefer if we left him be for today There was a post from Keis - Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 04:05 Kelsi3r wrote:
I like sandro on a filter dire
dont like oats and then dmb/slam havedone fuck all And there's been no Keisler posts from her second message to this Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile
on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie I just have no ideas of her thoughts besides lynch scott - maybe oats townlean and rsoul null.
And I still feel quite similiar to this. Where's the scum hunting/game solving?
On June 10 2024 21:37 sandroba wrote:
I finally have time to play again. Sorry all - family stuff kept me super busy during the weekend. I'm glad that even though I was inactive I was not lynched, but it sucks that you killed Kelsier which to me was one of the town reads I was more confident about. I have to catch up from around page ~30 onwards !! Hoping there is some juicy stuff around the lynch.
FYI this was made on page 121
My Magic N1 post was made on page 112
On June 10 2024 22:02 sandroba wrote:I started by filtering scott, I wanted to see if my read would change from him being likely mafia to inform my reading of the rest of D1. These 2 posts in particular are a strong indication scott is actually townie: Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 10:16 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 10:07 rsoultin wrote:
gdit all the votes on kels are making me squirrely now too lolol
and then i wifom the shit out of that and ask what scum does seeing a massive wagon on a scummate
maybe they're just both town but then i'd kinda expect a more even spread
i still wanna lynch sandy -_-
idk what i'd do in scott's position as town with his reads on you mocsta, probably want to talk to you about it at least Let's think here - rsoul. Let's play you are town (which I'm thinking) Let's think I'm town (Which I am) Let's think AZ is mafia (Which I suspect) The Keisl3r lynch makes sense in a way if he's mafia? Right? I feel he's given up. AZ wants to lynch me (town) because his buddy (Mafia) will be lynched otherwise. Get Mafia D1 it's probably GG ! You have the same mindset (or close) as me D1. It seems so weird! Now, I've had a few drinks already tonight (Yes) - So I'm not trying to use any outs. I just might not be fully mindset. This kind of attempt to collaborate and negotiate comes from a townie mindset, extending an olive branch and hoping the other person is not mafia. This comes off as genuine and I believe it's hard to fake, especially having no reason to believe knowing people will pick on this as a town indicator. Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 10:59 scott31337 wrote:Scotty's magic N1 postSo - first - On June 09 2024 12:23 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 12:22 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 12:17 Vivax wrote:
With the Kelsier flip and if he‘s town, Scott starts becoming useful to mafia. Of course he is now usefull for mafia... still easy lynch material I am pretty sure we had t vs t lynch today. Thats a reason why he will not get nk tonight. But why do oats think that he wouldn´t get nk? because im going to jailkeep him Now I know scum had to have seen this and someone put it in their chat. And I have two theories - 1. Mocsta is the JK and will protect someone tonight (Said oats in the post) I think this is the most realistic answer - but I do have some doubts. I believe Mocsta will get shot tonight.2. Mocsta fakeclaimedNow Koshi has been going after Mocsta since he joined. The other thing I want to ask this day also Koshi - On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter. And afterwards, you still call him mafia. So if you read his filter, you saw the post - and you still want to lynch him. So that tells me something. And I'm willing to listen. Order list - not lynching todayTrfel - Probably still top town. Still thinking things out even at night. I hope he was protected. Very curious who he wants to go after today also. Koshi - I townread Rsoultin and I really townread Koshi. I want to hear Koshi's thoughts on the above first. raynpelikoneet - He's asking questions and thinking about the game as well. I did read Trfel's post on him though and is worth reviewing. Oatsmaster Oats is playing a lot different than his last game, and he also seems to be investigating/scumhunting. Mocsta - I still feel he's town. Depending on Koshi, this could obviously change. Vivax He's been acting a little weird N1, but has some good posts here and there. Weaker die_meatbaby - I'm still townleaning DMB, and the Vivax/DMB posting feels TvT to me. But you need to step it up and scumhunt today. marvellosity - This is so tough. I don't know any recent marv games, but back in the day when we played, he was very timid as scum. This marv is not. But this marv also comes up with indifferent scumreads and is in the bed with AZ. So weird. Would lynch order Sandroba - enough said. There hasn't been any new posts from Sandroba from my last one. Alakaslam Filter is very meh. Marv townread, AZ townread, scumread me. Had one okay post and the rest has not been. AlphaZero A very good player that has my spider senses on alert. A few other townies have a bit of suspicion also on him, but not enough to really matter yet. I'm very curious of who he goes after today. This type of night post usually comes from townies as well - of course mafia can fake something like this but when they do it normally comes off unnatural and either too low or too high effort. This one hits right to me and seems genuine. I'm willing to go and say I feel scott is very likely townie and I'm hoping there is obvious mafia that we can focus on today instead.
So there was 90+ pages of nothing of interest?
This town post feels forced. I mean I'm glad he thinks I'm town, because I am, but it really put me off as the second return post.
On June 10 2024 22:34 sandroba wrote:
Around page 42 and I'm reading up on the discussion about Mocsta being mafia mostly driven by marv/az and trfel taking opposite sides. While I can see the points raised by marv/az being valid about the blatant way mocsta is throwing stuff around just to post and trying to justify them later, I fall in trfel side of the argument thinking that mocsta is being too open and collaborative about his thought process that it just screams town to me. I might just be completely outdated and the way mafia is playing this game now just goes beyond whatever I'm used to expect. Last game I had a few of my assumptions shattered, but unfortunately as a player I can only offer what I honestly believe. If I just throw it all out the window it means I'm just useless and can offer nothing. Because of that I'm just going to assume my intuition is correct for now and say mocsta is also town.
This is out of order. So did he read my filter first?
So yes, those are the main reasons I want to lynch Sandroba.
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Now I see
I started by filtering scott, I wanted to see if my read would change from him being likely mafia to inform my reading of the rest of D1. These 2 posts in particular are a strong indication scott is actually townie:
So disregard what I was thinking there
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Still feels off to me. I mean how much can you do with that filter?
Plus calling Koshi mafia
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On June 12 2024 10:26 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 10:59 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 10:58 rsoultin wrote:
i mean apparently i'm a sucker for being buddied by mocsta and i can pretend i sorta remember but i don't really that game, but i just don't think that mocsta switching is scum mocsta even if kels is town and scott is mafia You are overthinking or mafia. STOP IT! i do find this post from Scott incongruent with the bebop approach Does anyone else find this comparatively unusual?
I'll let others chime in, but rsoul does a lot of overthinking or overtyping. I'm not the best at phrasing it - but I could see her going in circles - especially when I was leaning town on her.
I wanted to be clear. 
I don't like swearing in mafia (or RL) either but there are times I still do it.
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On June 12 2024 10:24 Vivax wrote:
I still think it‘s a bad lynch. Hope I‘m wrong.
Scott‘s reasons for being on the wagon are just not satisfying imo. But maybe Trfel just has a default bloc that sheeps him idk. Scott, az, Oats
If I'm sheeping anyone, it's Koshi.
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On June 12 2024 10:40 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2024 10:33 scott31337 wrote:On June 12 2024 10:24 Vivax wrote:
I still think it‘s a bad lynch. Hope I‘m wrong.
Scott‘s reasons for being on the wagon are just not satisfying imo. But maybe Trfel just has a default bloc that sheeps him idk. Scott, az, Oats If I'm sheeping anyone, it's Koshi. even if sandroba is town?
Would I be on Sandroba if I really believed he was town?
No.
I can think for myself too.
Not sure what you are getting at.
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I'm going to take a break from posting for a bit.
But I think this game got a lot easier.
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On June 12 2024 11:45 Trfel wrote:I think die_meatbaby is mafia though
Write up a case.
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I think I want to lynch AZ tomorrow
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