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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 17:53 GMT
#1701
On June 09 2024 22:41 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 21:19 marvellosity wrote:
Trfel
AZ
Vivax
Oats
Sand
Mocsta
Scott
DMB
Koshi
Rayn
Slam

Let’s say this is a very rough order because beyond near the top a lot can move about. And it doesn’t even really mean I think slam is most likely to be mafia either. I just didn’t know where else to put him.

Who do you guys reckon I’ve got quite a lot wrong?


Koshi too low. Scott and sand too high. You could put Mocsta above oats maybe too


I'm going to keep this in mind for your next choice tomorrow and how you swindle it off.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2024 17:53 GMT
#1702
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 17:54 GMT
#1703
Fwiw I would definitely lynch Koshi over rayn at this moment in time
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22396 Posts
June 09 2024 17:54 GMT
#1704
Mindset wise it looks townie but I don‘t really think like that so I wouldn‘t use that as an argument for Koshi.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 17:54 GMT
#1705
On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town

Evidence for this?

Literally my only reasoning for calling you town was that rayn did.

Explain yourself?!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 09 2024 17:55 GMT
#1706
On June 10 2024 02:46 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 21:19 marvellosity wrote:
Trfel
AZ
Vivax
Oats
Sand
Mocsta
Scott
DMB
Koshi
Rayn
Slam

Let’s say this is a very rough order because beyond near the top a lot can move about. And it doesn’t even really mean I think slam is most likely to be mafia either. I just didn’t know where else to put him.

Who do you guys reckon I’ve got quite a lot wrong?


Sand is way too high
AZ is WAY TOO high
Koshi is way too low
Otherwise it's reasonable lol

Why is koshi in any way town for you?
No gg, No skill.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2024 17:56 GMT
#1707
On June 10 2024 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:51 Alakaslam wrote:
If rayn is mafia then, well, inactivity makes sense.

this is a really bad argument you know, and you should know better than this

Holy defensive reaction,

I was saying an if then

If ---> rayn mafia
Then ---> the inactivity would make sense

I did not say

If ----> life exists
Then ---> all things neatly make sense

One of my mottos is that there is no law forcing people to make sense.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 17:56 GMT
#1708
On June 10 2024 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:42 AlphaZero wrote:
Rayn what do you mean I’m not as townie as I look? What is the foundation of that thought?

You are clearly capable of making very well thought-out posts and being very reasonable.
That makes you townread for most of the people. I am not sure if that's the whole story. I mean if i only read your posts yeah, you're the towniest person in the game hands down, because your posts are rational, well thought out, and they make sense. I don't always consider those townie traits, especially how the D1 ended.

If i am fully clear, if you and marvellosity both are town and wanted to lynch scott, i fail to see how you failed in that. Take that as you want, but my opinion is that prolly at least one of you is mafia and you really didnt go "all in" with the lynch, as an active around townie should, if they felt strongly about it. Now marv has already countered my argument with "look at my filter" -> i did, it didnt look like he actually argued about scutt lynch -> then he said basically the same after.. So like my initial argument is wrong? When he debunked it himself???? I have yet to see what you did. Didn't get that far already.


Well I find that odd as well to be honest.

But basically there are the following reasons.

1.) trfel and rso both hard defended Scott all of day one and they both had some level of thread control together. More so than myself and Marv even.

2.) there were a lot of afk players.

3.) at least for me, this was supposed to be an account for low effort playing the game because I also have time constraints. Not lynching Scott has been so frustrating that it has single handily caused me to try much harder than I planned too.

If you haven’t read my posts from that time why can you draw the conclusion about the fact I didn’t lynch my prime suspect?
It’s completely backwards.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 17:56 GMT
#1709
On June 10 2024 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town

Evidence for this?

Literally my only reasoning for calling you town was that rayn did.

Explain yourself?!

yes please, slam.
table for two on a tv tray
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 17:56 GMT
#1710
On June 09 2024 23:50 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:30 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy

I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here.

This is just mafia yes? She has an entire day she hasn’t read and she is coming in here complaining about 3 players outta the 11 remaining not posting, curiously the same complaint as az and marv


I am sorry that I wasn't playing yesterday because of work. I need some sleep and I will start as soon as the night is over. It's not smart to post lists or opinions on who is what in the night...


No it's fine to post lists a minute before deadline I do it all the time
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 17:57 GMT
#1711
On June 10 2024 00:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 00:14 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN
Is scott31337 mafia still?


I think so. Don‘t understand his post about AZ if he isn‘t.


Which post? The one I'm calling him out?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 17:58 GMT
#1712
On June 10 2024 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fwiw istill think marv is mafia, read a vouple of pages after my vote rn and i dot think the psition around me and rsoul and me comes from town without further investigation.


Noted
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 17:58 GMT
#1713
On June 10 2024 02:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:42 AlphaZero wrote:
Rayn what do you mean I’m not as townie as I look? What is the foundation of that thought?

You are clearly capable of making very well thought-out posts and being very reasonable.
That makes you townread for most of the people. I am not sure if that's the whole story. I mean if i only read your posts yeah, you're the towniest person in the game hands down, because your posts are rational, well thought out, and they make sense. I don't always consider those townie traits, especially how the D1 ended.

If i am fully clear, if you and marvellosity both are town and wanted to lynch scott, i fail to see how you failed in that. Take that as you want, but my opinion is that prolly at least one of you is mafia and you really didnt go "all in" with the lynch, as an active around townie should, if they felt strongly about it. Now marv has already countered my argument with "look at my filter" -> i did, it didnt look like he actually argued about scutt lynch -> then he said basically the same after.. So like my initial argument is wrong? When he debunked it himself???? I have yet to see what you did. Didn't get that far already.


Well I find that odd as well to be honest.

But basically there are the following reasons.

1.) trfel and rso both hard defended Scott all of day one and they both had some level of thread control together. More so than myself and Marv even.

2.) there were a lot of afk players.

3.) at least for me, this was supposed to be an account for low effort playing the game because I also have time constraints. Not lynching Scott has been so frustrating that it has single handily caused me to try much harder than I planned too.

If you haven’t read my posts from that time why can you draw the conclusion about the fact I didn’t lynch my prime suspect?
It’s completely backwards.

I guess it can be seen as backwards.
I just do what i do and post what i post, if you have a problem with it call me mafia. That's what i get though from D1 outcome.
table for two on a tv tray
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2024 17:58 GMT
#1714
On June 10 2024 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town

Evidence for this?

Literally my only reasoning for calling you town was that rayn did.

Explain yourself?!

When you were mad that I was so absent this game (rightfully so) you didn't immediately disregard or call me likely mafia.

Given I was unaware Rayn had started calling me town thus far (I had and have not read pages 21-68 and it has been patchy since then) it looked worse too.

Now I am pretty certain you are town
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 18:00 GMT
#1715
On June 10 2024 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i don't think AZ is actually that townie as he "looks", if that makes sense to anyone.


Damnit too much truth
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 18:01 GMT
#1716
On June 10 2024 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town

Evidence for this?

Literally my only reasoning for calling you town was that rayn did.

Explain yourself?!

When you were mad that I was so absent this game (rightfully so) you didn't immediately disregard or call me likely mafia.

Given I was unaware Rayn had started calling me town thus far (I had and have not read pages 21-68 and it has been patchy since then) it looked worse too.

Now I am pretty certain you are town

so do you think marv is town because he agreed with my read and i am mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 18:01 GMT
#1717
On June 10 2024 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:56 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:42 AlphaZero wrote:
Rayn what do you mean I’m not as townie as I look? What is the foundation of that thought?

You are clearly capable of making very well thought-out posts and being very reasonable.
That makes you townread for most of the people. I am not sure if that's the whole story. I mean if i only read your posts yeah, you're the towniest person in the game hands down, because your posts are rational, well thought out, and they make sense. I don't always consider those townie traits, especially how the D1 ended.

If i am fully clear, if you and marvellosity both are town and wanted to lynch scott, i fail to see how you failed in that. Take that as you want, but my opinion is that prolly at least one of you is mafia and you really didnt go "all in" with the lynch, as an active around townie should, if they felt strongly about it. Now marv has already countered my argument with "look at my filter" -> i did, it didnt look like he actually argued about scutt lynch -> then he said basically the same after.. So like my initial argument is wrong? When he debunked it himself???? I have yet to see what you did. Didn't get that far already.


Well I find that odd as well to be honest.

But basically there are the following reasons.

1.) trfel and rso both hard defended Scott all of day one and they both had some level of thread control together. More so than myself and Marv even.

2.) there were a lot of afk players.

3.) at least for me, this was supposed to be an account for low effort playing the game because I also have time constraints. Not lynching Scott has been so frustrating that it has single handily caused me to try much harder than I planned too.

If you haven’t read my posts from that time why can you draw the conclusion about the fact I didn’t lynch my prime suspect?
It’s completely backwards.

I guess it can be seen as backwards.
I just do what i do and post what i post, if you have a problem with it call me mafia. That's what i get though from D1 outcome.


Have you read through that part of the game yet? Has that changed anything for you?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2024 18:02 GMT
#1718
On June 09 2024 10:22 marvellosity wrote:
I’m not in the best shape but:

We need a flip

I’m really frustrated with: slam, rayn, sand, kelsier (DMB)

That’s a lot of players in a 13p game to not be playing in second half of d1. Very disappointing. Don’t join games if you can’t give some effort.

I don’t wanna lynch sand for reasons people know but the absence is deeply, deeply annoying.

Tempting to just lynch kelsier to get rid of the trash but it’s deeply unsatisfying.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2024 18:03 GMT
#1719
On June 10 2024 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town

Evidence for this?

Literally my only reasoning for calling you town was that rayn did.

Explain yourself?!

When you were mad that I was so absent this game (rightfully so) you didn't immediately disregard or call me likely mafia.

Given I was unaware Rayn had started calling me town thus far (I had and have not read pages 21-68 and it has been patchy since then) it looked worse too.

Now I am pretty certain you are town

so do you think marv is town because he agreed with my read and i am mafia?

You still think I called you mafia?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2024 18:04 GMT
#1720
On June 10 2024 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I no longer think Marv is mafia

Why did you?

You looked like you had tmi on me being town.

Why would you be upset with a mafia suspect being as shittily absent as I have been? So I assumed you knew I was town.

Only one way to know (as a player) that an unflipped player is town

Evidence for this?

Literally my only reasoning for calling you town was that rayn did.

Explain yourself?!

When you were mad that I was so absent this game (rightfully so) you didn't immediately disregard or call me likely mafia.

Given I was unaware Rayn had started calling me town thus far (I had and have not read pages 21-68 and it has been patchy since then) it looked worse too.

Now I am pretty certain you are town

so do you think marv is town because he agreed with my read and i am mafia?

Now if you aren't mafia and he thinks you are you should think he is given this
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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