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On June 09 2024 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Slam and rsoul were the last two votes on kel, didn’t realize it was that close mate was super close
literally if rsoul flipped, it would have been even wagon and a chance
On June 09 2024 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
okay baby's up gdit okay i still want a sandy lynch guys i don't like not having time to reevaluate scott before the lynch but i'll go back to kels
and switch to sandy if y'all go on him while i'm feeding the baby and get back in time i gtg now On June 09 2024 10:22 Mocsta wrote:i still psoitively read you (todays chats were shifting a bit more towards that collaboration i recall you with), just disappointed. with a bit more time i reckon we would have settled on scott 
i'm onboard for pressure on koshi ASAP.. in tin-foil world where rsoul/scott are scum, then its going to be a mission to find third for tomorrow.
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i cant believe the other inactives havent publicly acknowledged the lynch outcome
where is sandroba!
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On June 09 2024 13:17 Koshi wrote:That I am mafia with marv, mocsta and sandroba. noice!
hi koshi, been a while indeed 
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On June 09 2024 13:24 Trfel wrote:
If scott31337 is town, I guess I don't understand why this makes rsoultin/Koshi mafia?
Imagine if the situation was reversed and we lynched scott31337 and (imagine) he flipped town, would this make AlphaZero mafia?
I'm really not understanding this. i have struggled with it too, and wont be lynching for information - yes i expect to be around d2
objectively rsoultin was the swing vote.
scott & rsoultin: the lack of bus * weird kelsier votes line up
scott & rsoultin: nilburger
scott & rsoultin: double-town wagon. no benefit to swinging
scott & rsoultin: nilburger
i settled on leaving scott as a qusetion-mark and focusing on other mafia leads
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On June 09 2024 21:42 Trfel wrote:
Maybe Mocsta is mafia, definitely worth considering. I might not be scared enough of his scum play. I just have a soft spot for the way he posts tbh. It's hard to really figure out his alignment because we think so differently tbh.
His willingness to switch reads and try different angles makes me think he is town, but I suppose he could fake that as mafia. oh my dude.. I probably thought we saw the game so closest. *Shrug* both our positions could be true
Separately
The stuff about could a town dmb be aware of tvt
1. From filter only reason I could imagine a kelsier vote is to sheep rsoultin whom dmb seems to town read. But vote is based on being a policy "inactiv" lunch when town read. Super scummy.
2. Why is vivax missing throughout filter whilst highlighted as critical focus at start
3. If Scott was scummy for setup talk, dmb is no different with a fair portion of filter focused on Scott history literally summarised as 'does small bs as town'; and other parts is az speculation
4. Dmb / rsoultin interactions to me.do.not look like mafia/mafia. Shame as koshi has been annoying and I'm liking dmb as mafia.
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On June 09 2024 22:28 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2024 22:24 AlphaZero wrote:
mav what is the liklihood of trfel being mafia in your opinion? Low He just seems incredibly interested and thinking about the game a lot. And from different perspectives too.
If Trfel is mafia he’s pocketed me completely He is not really doing this beyond face value. He still wanted to lynch kels and save scott, despite good reasons to not want that. I dont believe he was around
The only active person was rsoultin who would not vote Scott iirc
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On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.
@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.
Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.
@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow? Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr? You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it. Dmb wouldn't vote Scott
It was literally in the post you last responded to me about
I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy
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On June 09 2024 22:57 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 22:53 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 22:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2024 22:24 AlphaZero wrote:
mav what is the liklihood of trfel being mafia in your opinion? Low He just seems incredibly interested and thinking about the game a lot. And from different perspectives too.
If Trfel is mafia he’s pocketed me completely He is not really doing this beyond face value. He still wanted to lynch kels and save scott, despite good reasons to not want that. I dont believe he was around The only active person was rsoultin who would not vote Scott iirc Not really a valid argument because I wouldn't really have changed my mind if I was around though. Side note, Mocsta, do you happen to remember if we've played together before? I think we played together once (and then apparently also End of the World Party Mafia but that doesn't really count), but I could be wrong. I'm.certain we have
Probably similar outcome to this game. Town/town and you were fleeting in/out with me iirc
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On June 09 2024 23:07 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 23:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 22:57 Trfel wrote:On June 09 2024 22:53 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 22:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On June 09 2024 22:24 AlphaZero wrote:
mav what is the liklihood of trfel being mafia in your opinion? Low He just seems incredibly interested and thinking about the game a lot. And from different perspectives too.
If Trfel is mafia he’s pocketed me completely He is not really doing this beyond face value. He still wanted to lynch kels and save scott, despite good reasons to not want that. I dont believe he was around The only active person was rsoultin who would not vote Scott iirc Not really a valid argument because I wouldn't really have changed my mind if I was around though. Side note, Mocsta, do you happen to remember if we've played together before? I think we played together once (and then apparently also End of the World Party Mafia but that doesn't really count), but I could be wrong. I'm.certain we have Probably similar outcome to this game. Town/town and you were fleeting in/out with me iirc There's something very specific I remember. I was playing with someone for (I think) the first time we played together, and they were very impressed with my analysis, and then I sheeped rsoultin on a toneread of someone and the other person flipped out and instantly hard scumread me because they couldn't possibly imagine that the same person who could provide such detailed analysis would be swayed by a simple no-analysis tone read. Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 15:42 Mocsta wrote:trfel for the record, the playstyle itself is neutral, i was explaining what i meant by withhold. az started strong so i could also be guilty of holding az to a higher expectation; yet i reckon rest of filter is a mess (with a reluctant admission that there is some good stuff too).. like in my mind, if i removed the red flag posts out of his filter, it would be quite consistent actually so im slowly slowly reducing my expectation of az to betaone again a reason why im not going balls to the wall i still need to re look into scotts filter. will bbl Looks actually quite similar to the thought process displayed here, which is why I bring it up. If my memory is incorrect then please disregard  I think disregard
I may have confused you.with tictock.for synergy
I went through my last set of games and we played together town/town in vendee mafia
Some.of.the.dialogue is.fuckn on point to this game. Made me chuckle. It's literally you saying. I don't get what you mean but it's town. Lol
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On June 09 2024 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 23:02 Trfel wrote:On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.
@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.
Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.
@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow? Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr? You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it. Dmb wouldn't vote Scott It was literally in the post you last responded to me about I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy She said she wouldn't lynch scott31337 at this time but left the door wide, wide open for doing so in the future. So I wouldn't consider that a deterrent for future lynches. Yes, I agree that die_meatbaby could definitely be mafia. On June 08 2024 10:01 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.
Vote:vivax Is first time you play with vivax? I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me. If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria. For me he looks like Town (atm) you have any other scum reads? Source on the mafia meta read? Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game? I’d go after you no? Why would I go after vivax? Answer the question please I just wanted to remind you you cannot make the same bs twice On June 08 2024 10:19 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
i mean the having icky vibes off az i can identify with but maybe your time would be better spent catching up if you're just throwing shade at oats because he was pushing you as mafia in an earlier game I am not pushing him as mafia(atm). i just wanted to remind him that some things should not be done twice Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, but these posts are at least worth looking into? Why would die_meatbaby, as town, warn someone not to do something that would give them away as mafia? Because that’s who she is lol nah post is slightly out of context
She's saying mafia!oats tunneled town!dmb as a weak/easy lunch
It's clarified with rsoultin
On June 08 2024 09:57 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 09:52 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.
Vote:vivax Is first time you play with vivax? I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me. If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria. For me he looks like Town (atm) you have any other scum reads? Source on the mafia meta read? Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game? do you feel vivax is one of the weakest players in this game? this is a genuine question because i wouldn't normally consider him a weak player in a vacuum, at least as town No not at all. V already played a lot of mafia games on many different websides and some of that are really good. It´s just my thing that I am always try to read him first. A nd this was more like a general question to oats, because in his last game (mafia Oats) just posted kill dmb. vote dmb. scum dmb... and he came almost through with this bs on just hitting on the weak players, newbe or how ever you want to call me
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That oats thing is null for me trfel
As town can feel.obliged to say it when butthurt - which seems a legit possibility
As scum.its really easy and beneficial to say it.too
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On June 09 2024 23:27 Vivax wrote:
Well that was cathartic are you satisfied with how dmb has progressed her read on you given you were her top.priority?
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Soz trfel
That post was more for you then oats
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On June 09 2024 23:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 23:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 23:02 Trfel wrote:On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.
@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.
Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.
@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow? Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr? You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it. Dmb wouldn't vote Scott It was literally in the post you last responded to me about I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy She said she wouldn't lynch scott31337 at this time but left the door wide, wide open for doing so in the future. So I wouldn't consider that a deterrent for future lynches. Yes, I agree that die_meatbaby could definitely be mafia. On June 08 2024 10:01 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.
Vote:vivax Is first time you play with vivax? I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me. If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria. For me he looks like Town (atm) you have any other scum reads? Source on the mafia meta read? Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game? I’d go after you no? Why would I go after vivax? Answer the question please I just wanted to remind you you cannot make the same bs twice On June 08 2024 10:19 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
i mean the having icky vibes off az i can identify with but maybe your time would be better spent catching up if you're just throwing shade at oats because he was pushing you as mafia in an earlier game I am not pushing him as mafia(atm). i just wanted to remind him that some things should not be done twice Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, but these posts are at least worth looking into? Why would die_meatbaby, as town, warn someone not to do something that would give them away as mafia? Because that’s who she is lol nah post is slightly out of context She's saying mafia!oats tunneled town!dmb as a weak/easy lunch It's clarified with rsoultin On June 08 2024 09:57 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:52 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.
Vote:vivax Is first time you play with vivax? I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me. If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria. For me he looks like Town (atm) you have any other scum reads? Source on the mafia meta read? Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game? do you feel vivax is one of the weakest players in this game? this is a genuine question because i wouldn't normally consider him a weak player in a vacuum, at least as town No not at all. V already played a lot of mafia games on many different websides and some of that are really good. It´s just my thing that I am always try to read him first. A nd this was more like a general question to oats, because in his last game (mafia Oats) just posted kill dmb. vote dmb. scum dmb... and he came almost through with this bs on just hitting on the weak players, newbe or how ever you want to call me Unless I'm misunderstanding Oatsmaster that doesn't contradict what he is saying? Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
In town-DMB world, I feel quite strongly that she has an aversion to lynching ‘lynch baity’ players, because I think she sees herself in that position and doesn’t like it happening to others like her.
It’s what makes it really tricky to figure out the motivations behind it Like if you take marvellosity's view here to be true, I could see it making sense, where die_meatbaby is so focused on not going for easy lynches that she's willing to go out of her way to warn someone not to do that, even if them doing so would actually benefit her.If that makes sense?
It doesn't because she votes kelsier for being inactive which is a policy lynch of someone she thinks is town...
Where is town motivation in that?
She had a scum read on az.. coulda just parked a vote there
I mean as tvt , her vote is pointless regardless
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On June 10 2024 06:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2024 06:46 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2024 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax who do you think is mafia ? … I was under the impression you were done reading yeah, what has my question to do with it? Az, scott mocsta Maybe but big maybe sandro In that order. And I hate that I have to put Mocsta in there you should hate it
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On June 10 2024 07:00 Koshi wrote:
Sandro, Slam, Mocsta
(AZ instead of Mocsta but only because so many of you say it, they are not mafia together) Definitely not scum together
Like can you at least read my end of day1 filter if you are going to keep this up
Yes where I transition to my former townread and your current townread scott
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On June 10 2024 07:36 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 07:20 Mocsta wrote:On June 10 2024 07:00 Koshi wrote:
Sandro, Slam, Mocsta
(AZ instead of Mocsta but only because so many of you say it, they are not mafia together) Definitely not scum together Like can you at least read my end of day1 filter if you are going to keep this up Yes where I transition to my former townread and your current townread scott So do you think none of them are mafia? Obviously you aren't going to include yourself, I get that. sorry I was being selfish
I meant az and me
I gotta break out of this habit! Thanks for the follow up
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On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter. yeah yeah all this is a setup to say I'm playing very bad when town
Hopefully see you on d2
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On June 10 2024 08:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 07:55 Mocsta wrote:On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter. yeah yeah all this is a setup to say I'm playing very bad when town Hopefully see you on d2 If Koshi dies and you‘re mafia you win an Oscar for that last part mate you have been a town read for me probably from around the tail end of d1 when we were the only actives with rsoultin collaborating on the lynch.
What's changed? I mean you said something about wanting to vote out Scott, yet I agreed with you Scott is not a good choice d2?? Have you missed that?
I think rayn asked who I think is mafia which is lazy
I have intentionally dropped my post count and what I do have points to dmb
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On June 10 2024 08:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 07:18 Mocsta wrote:On June 10 2024 06:49 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2024 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2024 06:46 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2024 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax who do you think is mafia ? … I was under the impression you were done reading yeah, what has my question to do with it? Az, scott mocsta Maybe but big maybe sandro In that order. And I hate that I have to put Mocsta in there you should hate it I really don’t like this post tbh, he comes back to the thread and just randomly quips this when a million other things have substantially happened 👍
I don't care if people want to call me scum
It's the pairing of me and az or me and marv that's ridiculous
Haven't posted on other substantial stuff because as you have pointed out, it's substantial
You are doing the same thing btw but I still love ya
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