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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:26 GMT
#5434
1) DP is trying to tell me need to solve the game if i am town. yet everything i do is mafia, he doesnt think scott is town so me having a town read on scott is scummy? he doesnt think mocsta is mafia so anything i ever say on mocsta goes unlabeled, just because rayn is mafia and mocsta is town. what am i supposed to do in his mind if i am town? He is not really keeping an open mind as he claims, about the alignments of people.

2) DP brushes off all the cases, all the points i make on anyone. Whatever i say he does not say "here, rayn, you are wrong", instead he says "no rayn, this is why you are mafia". then he claims -- again -- that i am not trying to solve, but just looking for lynch, which is ridiculous in the first place.

3) DP cant tell why i am mafia. All the exact points he has made, i have refuted. Yet he keeps refreshing points that can't be answered.

DP is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:29 GMT
#5436
4) from all our QT, from all the night kills, from all the NON-night kills, DP should have a reasonable doubt that i am mafia. yet he claims the exact opposite.

5) refuses to look at any points i make on mocsta. literally any points, while some of those should be definitely at least interesting for him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:30 GMT
#5437
4) and 5) are the biggest points, because they are actually in thread, and he never answered those things when i gave my response
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:31 GMT
#5438
On June 21 2024 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2024 00:08 AlphaZero wrote:
here is the thing, Rayn is not helping to solve the game any further than the part about him not dying.

This is simply not true. I have made a case on Mocsta, i am pushing my case on Mocsta, even when noone is listening to me. That has been everything i have done this phase, regardless of when everyone disagrees with me. How in the hell is that rayn is just trying to not get lynched???

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Night kills point to Rayn and away from mocsta me and scott.

Bad argument, but okay, if you wanna talk about night kills.

N1 marvellosity: there is simply no reason why marv being killed should point towards ANYONE in the game. Every single mafia team in this game has a reasonable reason to kill marv. Every... Single... One...

N2 Oatsmaster: Oats townread me more than any of you three, 100% true and certain every time in this game!!! Claiming that N2 kill points to rayn is just absurd as fuck.

N3 Trfel: The only people this night kill does NOT point towards, is me and you. Because Koshi was roleblocked N3, neither you or me would be stupid enough to read Koshi as blue but NOT read Koshi as PC with a check on DMB + Slam. I fucked that up, i guess you fucked that up too, not realising he was blue. Mafia however definitely thought he is blue, because they roleblocked him. Mocsta mumbles something about jailkeeper yadda yadda when every smart person knows there is no jailkeeper in the game. If he genuinely believed that, then he genuinely could have been avoiding JK. Scott can make that kill with dmb too, because i dont even know what scott is doing anymore. So that kill also, points away from me (as well as you).

N4 Koshi: you really think killing a claimed parity cop points to anyone? Are you high or what.

So, which night kills point towards me and "away from other people"???
I am starting to find it very hard to believe you are actually making these claims as town.

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rayn did weird shit trying to avoid lynching the red check.

This is simply NAI. First of all i did never ever believe i will get Mocsta lynched over basically confirmed mafia (which dmb even wasn't -- everyone was taking MY word on Slam being town -- including you and Koshi). I simply did it for the following reasons:
1) Second game to last, VE got almost lynched over red checked Oats (lol). I imitated the stupid town sentiment (no mafia voting for VE there -- only townies), which hilariously enough i would have believed if i was in game still
2) There was a chance scott will do something stupid if he is mafia. Sure, very tight chance like 1%, but there is just nothing to lose there.
3) At the time i thought dmb, mocsta and scott contain 2 mafia. Didn't care in which order we lynch them all.

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Rayn did not do smart town rayn things.

Untrue. I have done many smart rayn things:
1) figured out you are DP N1.
2) questioned why scott didnt die D1 if you and marv are both town (i might be WRONG but you yourself said it is smart)
3) single handedly pushed sandroba lynch when everyone was on vivax and saying "wow when sandroba posts he is so town"
4) figured out and told you and koshi slam is town, which ended up in dmb lynch ultimately (because koshi thought slam is more likely to be mafia before me convincing him)

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Rayn is mafia.

IF you really believe that, then have fun on the final day, because i will make sure you are gonna get lynched!!

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Like the fact he even casts any doubt on my alignment here proves it. It just feels like the last two phases he is trying to not get lynched but surely by this late in the game he can make a convicing case on mafia if he is town.

Trying to not get lynched by "voting another person than "confirmed" mafia? Clear contradiction there DP!!!
Trying to not get lynched by "telling everyone Mocsta is mafia AGAINST ALL THE ODDS in the world atm"?
That's how you perceive "trying to not get lynched"?

I've made a case, now i am starting to doubt it because you look fucking scummier by every single post you make in this thread. You dont refute any of my arguments, you dont see anything scummy in Mocsta's play (while saying "we have all been doing scummy stuff" -- which is btw wrong, i have not been doing scummy stuff because i am not scum. By fucking definition i cannot be doing scummy stuff if i am town!!!).

You simply agree with everything Mocsta says when almost everything is stupid stuff that doesnt even make any sense at all. His voting record is definiteyl the scummiest of the players left in the game. I will come back to that a bit later. You not being able to see that.... i don't know what is worse, him doing that or you not seeing him doing that. You literally can't even see why his voting on D3 is scummy as shit while YOU SHOULD BE the first person to realise why it is!!!!! Somehow you just simply ignore all of it.

Is it because you just want to get a lynch?

Show nested quote +
but he is just not doing it.

I hope this doesn't blow up in my face like the vivax lynch.

But here we are.

Bullshit as explained above.

I hope this blows up in your fucking face whatever alignment you are.

Yeah, here we are DP.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:32 GMT
#5439
If you other people dont read anything other this game, read that post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:33 GMT
#5440
So, which night kills point towards me and "away from other people"???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:33 GMT
#5441
Trying to not get lynched by "voting another person than "confirmed" mafia? Clear contradiction there DP!!!
Trying to not get lynched by "telling everyone Mocsta is mafia AGAINST ALL THE ODDS in the world atm"?
That's how you perceive "trying to not get lynched"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:34 GMT
#5442
On June 21 2024 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So, which night kills point towards me and "away from other people"???

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:36 GMT
#5443
Mocsta did you ever believe i would get you lynched D4, or if i did, i would survive that (lynching you over DMB) as mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:38 GMT
#5445
On June 21 2024 09:37 AlphaZero wrote:
im done, i am not arguing anymore.

Maybe I am bad but i can't see you as town now.

I am sorry if you are, in fact, town.

what have i done to make you feel that way?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:40 GMT
#5446
i mean for "im done, i am not arguing anymore."

its okay if you think i am mafia, i am pushing you anyways
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:43 GMT
#5448
I just quoted two posts, that were posted a long time ago.

You never answered those. Yet you kept calling me mafia, while those posts were important to you, in why i am mafia.

Surely you should have an easy time telling where i am lying there?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:50 GMT
#5453
On June 21 2024 09:43 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2024 09:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 21 2024 09:37 AlphaZero wrote:
im done, i am not arguing anymore.

Maybe I am bad but i can't see you as town now.

I am sorry if you are, in fact, town.

what have i done to make you feel that way?


I already told you.

1.) not lynching the red check and acting really fucking weird that phase.

wow, i really mean it's the only thing i can say here.

2.) shitty case on me and dropping the mocsta read that was the 'town' justification for acting weird in point 1.

doesnt matter unless you explain why it is shitty,
it's not

3.) Your cases suck, see the latest post on me.

yeah see above, you can do better than try to fuck me over in two points that are the same..

4.) the way that sandro and DMB approached your alignment, DMB did not read you as anything and barely interacted with you at all, despite being directly asked. Sandro lumped you and DMB in null pools or mafia pools when it was likely he would flip.

shitty point, because i cannot affect that.
if you feel like it, okay.
sandroba was all in lynching me D2. If you have any other view of his filter, please go ahead.


5.) the fact that you don't seem to see the game the way that I do.

stupid point that does not mean anything

6.) the approach you took to this phase, which seems to me about finding a viable counter wagon rather than leaving town in a good position post your 'green' flip.

You realise how scummy this sounds?
So like i am town ONLY if i accept myself being lynched?
Yeah DP, not gonna happen, maybe you predicted it but no.


7.) calling me mafia when you should know there are at least a dozen things I have done this game that I would not do if I was mafia in this spot, not least of which is revealling the identity of my main account, when all that can do is INCREASE suspicions on me.

yes well, same can be said about me, so are we both townie or scummy?
also you revealing doesnt mean shit because i revealed you, D2 to you, and now to others, why do you make it an alignment indicative thing??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:51 GMT
#5454
On June 21 2024 09:47 AlphaZero wrote:
Yeah I am not answering stuff from you, I am not going to get dragged into a massive argument with you on your terms when I think you are mafia, that will only help you.

I get that but then youre still telling me to scumhunt when i cant talk with people....
Fucking insane...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:52 GMT
#5455
Can someone tell me why i am not being talked to?
I have been rude? Anything like that?

Why don't people want to talk with me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:55 GMT
#5460
On June 21 2024 09:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2024 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 21 2024 09:43 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 21 2024 09:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 21 2024 09:37 AlphaZero wrote:
im done, i am not arguing anymore.

Maybe I am bad but i can't see you as town now.

I am sorry if you are, in fact, town.

what have i done to make you feel that way?


I already told you.

1.) not lynching the red check and acting really fucking weird that phase.

wow, i really mean it's the only thing i can say here.

2.) shitty case on me and dropping the mocsta read that was the 'town' justification for acting weird in point 1.

doesnt matter unless you explain why it is shitty,
it's not

3.) Your cases suck, see the latest post on me.

yeah see above, you can do better than try to fuck me over in two points that are the same..

4.) the way that sandro and DMB approached your alignment, DMB did not read you as anything and barely interacted with you at all, despite being directly asked. Sandro lumped you and DMB in null pools or mafia pools when it was likely he would flip.

shitty point, because i cannot affect that.
if you feel like it, okay.
sandroba was all in lynching me D2. If you have any other view of his filter, please go ahead.


5.) the fact that you don't seem to see the game the way that I do.

stupid point that does not mean anything

6.) the approach you took to this phase, which seems to me about finding a viable counter wagon rather than leaving town in a good position post your 'green' flip.

You realise how scummy this sounds?
So like i am town ONLY if i accept myself being lynched?
Yeah DP, not gonna happen, maybe you predicted it but no.


7.) calling me mafia when you should know there are at least a dozen things I have done this game that I would not do if I was mafia in this spot, not least of which is revealling the identity of my main account, when all that can do is INCREASE suspicions on me.

yes well, same can be said about me, so are we both townie or scummy?
also you revealing doesnt mean shit because i revealed you, D2 to you, and now to others, why do you make it an alignment indicative thing??


come off it, I could have lied and said I was not DP and then what?

then it would mean nothing and I would be less suspect for that.

The fact you posted it in the thread in order to stir suspicion after promising not to is also something I think you not do as town.

no then we would lynch you and me and town wins.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:57 GMT
#5461
heh okya i dont think i am gonna live

lynch DP.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:58 GMT
#5462
Slam you really need to not believe anything DP says.
Scott, put up your game. Youre now up for both of those fuckheads lynch list.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 00:58 GMT
#5463
Also both of you read my filter!!!!!
BOTH OF YOU!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2024 01:00 GMT
#5465
And Slam i hate you for ragequitting but then not ragequitting.
It is really stupid. At least please play now when you decided to play.
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