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here is the thing, Rayn is not helping to solve the game any further than the part about him not dying.
Night kills point to Rayn and away from mocsta me and scott.
rayn did weird shit trying to avoid lynching the red check.
Rayn did not do smart town rayn things.
Rayn is mafia.
Like the fact he even casts any doubt on my alignment here proves it. It just feels like the last two phases he is trying to not get lynched but surely by this late in the game he can make a convicing case on mafia if he is town.
but he is just not doing it.
I hope this doesn't blow up in my face like the vivax lynch.
But here we are.
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Vivax lynch was different circumstances
Again. If he didn't piss off trfel it wouldn't have happened
It was closer to a policy lynch than scum lunch.
Shit happens during last minute swaps
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I’m also sheeping koshi who thought Rayn was mafia and who is good at reading Rayn, many dead townies had town reads on Me, Mocsta and Scott, and slam is confirmed town.
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Uuhhhhhhhhh
At the end of the game so
gimme some love ok 
Separately I appreciated I was on your call out before classy started
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On June 20 2024 17:17 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2024 16:43 Alakaslam wrote:On June 20 2024 13:23 Mocsta wrote:
hi slam Wazzaaaapp how was da fush
Exquisite
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On June 21 2024 00:08 AlphaZero wrote:
here is the thing, Rayn is not helping to solve the game any further than the part about him not dying.
This is simply not true. I have made a case on Mocsta, i am pushing my case on Mocsta, even when noone is listening to me. That has been everything i have done this phase, regardless of when everyone disagrees with me. How in the hell is that rayn is just trying to not get lynched???
Night kills point to Rayn and away from mocsta me and scott.
Bad argument, but okay, if you wanna talk about night kills.
N1 marvellosity: there is simply no reason why marv being killed should point towards ANYONE in the game. Every single mafia team in this game has a reasonable reason to kill marv. Every... Single... One...
N2 Oatsmaster: Oats townread me more than any of you three, 100% true and certain every time in this game!!! Claiming that N2 kill points to rayn is just absurd as fuck.
N3 Trfel: The only people this night kill does NOT point towards, is me and you. Because Koshi was roleblocked N3, neither you or me would be stupid enough to read Koshi as blue but NOT read Koshi as PC with a check on DMB + Slam. I fucked that up, i guess you fucked that up too, not realising he was blue. Mafia however definitely thought he is blue, because they roleblocked him. Mocsta mumbles something about jailkeeper yadda yadda when every smart person knows there is no jailkeeper in the game. If he genuinely believed that, then he genuinely could have been avoiding JK. Scott can make that kill with dmb too, because i dont even know what scott is doing anymore. So that kill also, points away from me (as well as you).
N4 Koshi: you really think killing a claimed parity cop points to anyone? Are you high or what.
So, which night kills point towards me and "away from other people"???
I am starting to find it very hard to believe you are actually making these claims as town.
rayn did weird shit trying to avoid lynching the red check.
This is simply NAI. First of all i did never ever believe i will get Mocsta lynched over basically confirmed mafia (which dmb even wasn't -- everyone was taking MY word on Slam being town -- including you and Koshi). I simply did it for the following reasons:
1) Second game to last, VE got almost lynched over red checked Oats (lol). I imitated the stupid town sentiment (no mafia voting for VE there -- only townies), which hilariously enough i would have believed if i was in game still
2) There was a chance scott will do something stupid if he is mafia. Sure, very tight chance like 1%, but there is just nothing to lose there.
3) At the time i thought dmb, mocsta and scott contain 2 mafia. Didn't care in which order we lynch them all.
Rayn did not do smart town rayn things.
Untrue. I have done many smart rayn things:
1) figured out you are DP N1.
2) questioned why scott didnt die D1 if you and marv are both town (i might be WRONG but you yourself said it is smart)
3) single handedly pushed sandroba lynch when everyone was on vivax and saying "wow when sandroba posts he is so town"
4) figured out and told you and koshi slam is town, which ended up in dmb lynch ultimately (because koshi thought slam is more likely to be mafia before me convincing him)
Rayn is mafia.
IF you really believe that, then have fun on the final day, because i will make sure you are gonna get lynched!!
Like the fact he even casts any doubt on my alignment here proves it. It just feels like the last two phases he is trying to not get lynched but surely by this late in the game he can make a convicing case on mafia if he is town.
Trying to not get lynched by "voting another person than "confirmed" mafia? Clear contradiction there DP!!!
Trying to not get lynched by "telling everyone Mocsta is mafia AGAINST ALL THE ODDS in the world atm"?
That's how you perceive "trying to not get lynched"?
I've made a case, now i am starting to doubt it because you look fucking scummier by every single post you make in this thread. You dont refute any of my arguments, you dont see anything scummy in Mocsta's play (while saying "we have all been doing scummy stuff" -- which is btw wrong, i have not been doing scummy stuff because i am not scum. By fucking definition i cannot be doing scummy stuff if i am town!!!).
You simply agree with everything Mocsta says when almost everything is stupid stuff that doesnt even make any sense at all. His voting record is definiteyl the scummiest of the players left in the game. I will come back to that a bit later. You not being able to see that.... i don't know what is worse, him doing that or you not seeing him doing that. You literally can't even see why his voting on D3 is scummy as shit while YOU SHOULD BE the first person to realise why it is!!!!! Somehow you just simply ignore all of it.
Is it because you just want to get a lynch?
but he is just not doing it.
I hope this doesn't blow up in my face like the vivax lynch.
But here we are.
Bullshit as explained above.
I hope this blows up in your fucking face whatever alignment you are.
Yeah, here we are DP.
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On June 21 2024 00:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I’m also sheeping koshi who thought Rayn was mafia and who is good at reading Rayn, many dead townies had town reads on Me, Mocsta and Scott, and slam is confirmed town.
Koshi thought i was mafia because i did not vote to lynch DMB D3.
I already have made post why i made my ultimate decision.
Like Koshi literally got mad at me because i didn't realise he is blue. If Koshi knew you are DP, you would have the same treatment 100% of the time, every time, and you know it. That's literally ALL Koshi's scumread on me!!! Everything else is construed over that fact because until N3 we were best buddies, he just didn't read why i ended up voting on Vivax.
I masoned him because i wanted to clear that up but he was so fucking tunneled he just started telling me i am mafia and asking "why are you trying to look like youre town now?" and shit like that so i waited at first, then at some point i just ended up closing whole discord because i didnt wanna read that shit anymore.
That's ALL Koshi's "case" on me is. Also Koshi is NOT good at reading me. Every game i am town he thinks i am mafia.
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Like every single game it is "rayn is mafia but that's for D3" and i don't live that long in 90% of the games.
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So okay let's talk about Mocsta's voting record:
I dont care about D1 because who cares, if Mocsta is mafia he voted for one of the townies, if Mocsta is town he genuinely believed Kelsier is a better lynch than scott, so thats completely NAI.
D2 Mocsta literally said "rayn is mafia with one of sandroba/DMB", votes for me, tries to build a wagon on me. When Trfel switches to sandroba, Mocsta starts building up who sandroba can be mafia with (which doesnt make sense since rayn is the main guy behind that wagon, and he thinks rayn is mafia 100%). Only conclusion is that he wants to look good in Trfel's eyes -- or rayn is bussing. Then, when sandroba flips, he starts calling me town. Can you guys realise how scummy this actually is????? How can Mocsta have those thoughts in his head 1) if sandroba is mafia rayn is bussing 2) when sandroba flips rayn was not bussing anymore (because town). This is literally the scummiest thing anyone has done in this game including sandroba and dmb.
D3 there is a big wagon on DMB by Koshi. Trfel starts deviating from that into vivax. Now here is a post from Mocsta that i tried to get DP's opinion, which he never gave ofc, because noone wants to actually talk with me this game...
This is what Mocsta says:
And then..
If vivax had not fucked around in the masons. Trfel wouldn't have freaked out with him and dmb would have been lynched.
Ironically this is the ONLY time Mocsta has deviated from what Trfel wants. He even acknowledged that sandroba can be mafia based against everything he himself believed D2. Keep in mind that the lynch is DMB (mafia) here, and Trfel is starting a wagon on vivax. Now this is actually very smart play from mafia Mocsta.
People might not be confident in lynching Vivax over DMB, but people for sure are confident in taking part of wagons on either Vivax OR DP. So he pushes a wagon on DP. He does not criticize the switch from DMB, he does not criticize the vivax wagon, he just builds another wagon on DP. And this is beneficial for him as mafia because of what i just said above, Vivax alone would not gain that much support to switch from DMB (who Mocsta apparently thinks is mafia), but TWO wagon for certain do, because i can't think of a person in the game at that point who does not have a scumread or reasonable doubt on EITHER vivax OR dp!!!
Mocsta; All game every vote sheeping Trfel except when it is to lynch sandroba or lynch DMB.
And why the fuck does DP not understand this? Every smart person should understand this, most of all him, because he is the TARGET of Mocsta's here!!! But no, why the fuck do you not see this DP?
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D4 who the fuck cares everyone wanted to kill dmb so??
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At least i am very confident Scott is not mafia, which is kinda gross because by posting frequency he should be, but yeah we can all decide collectively scott is town.
I can agree to that.
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On June 21 2024 00:14 Mocsta wrote:
Vivax lynch was different circumstances
Again. If he didn't piss off trfel it wouldn't have happened
It was closer to a policy lynch than scum lunch.
Shit happens during last minute swaps
Yeah and you went from mafia lynch to not doing that mafia lynch but building another wagon, instead of saying "no trfel, we are not lynching vivax, we are lynching dmb".
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On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.
Nothing fake about that.
The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.
Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.
So why did mafia do that?
Mocsta today made a post about this, that is 100% the opposite of what you are saying here.
Why are you agreeing with each other again?
Who is stupid, who is lying?
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Slam before the day end (preferrably soon) you need to tell me what DP is telling you in the mason QT.
I really need to know that up until this point to make a decision to leave the town my will.
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Just because DP cannot fuck with me in mason, doesnt mean he cannot fuck with you.
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On June 21 2024 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam before the day end (preferrably soon) you need to tell me what DP is telling you in the mason QT.
I really need to know that up until this point to make a decision to leave the town my will.
basically if dp is faking his scumread on me on parts, he is probably town
if he really thinks i am mafia, he is probably mafia
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idk what else to say i am sorry. 
idk what i have done so that i am mafia, because i refute all the arguments i have heard, noone has a counter to my refuting argument, they just keep repeating the same argument again.
I simply just don't know what i can do anymore. Do i am just gonna call DP mafia because he is supposed to be reasonable about this and he isn't.
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It really is like this i feel like, if we had this convo:
rayn: slam is mafia because he didnt vote for dmb
slam: but rayn, i did vote for dmb, look here is the post
rayn: lol no you did not vote for dmb, also you keep saying that so you are not trying to solve the game just keep repeating bad arguments
everyone else: good point rayn, vote slam
i am genuinely lost, what do i do here?
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You made a really stupid case on Palmar a couple of games ago DP, which all the stupid townies bought.
Now i am not a stupid townie here, so start making the case on me again by answering all that shit.
Everyone else DO NOT LET HIM OFF THE HOOK!!
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