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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 01:39 GMT
#4921
BTW I don't know what to do with Slam's latest posts either.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 01:59 GMT
#4922
is koshi the parity cop?

      n1 check sandroba
      n2 check scott

      d3.. scott is town, no questions asked
      n3.. scott is town, no questions asked

plausible if not RB'd

alternatively, is koshi any blue

      d3.. there is a RB, no questions asked
      n3.. there is a RB, no questions asked

takeaway--> if koshi flips & is cop - scott is almost certainly town (dont go for this godfather crap, keep it simple)


if koshi does not flip, then we are in interesting space

      trfel/az are pro scott lynch, anti dmb
      koshi/mocsta re pro dmb lynch, anti scott

if the trfel/az pair is shot, it points to scott being scum
if the koshi/mocsta pair is shot, it points to dmb being scum (i dont think a bluesnipe on either of us is that important because of the RB)


if the rest is shot
      DMB -> Mind blown and not considering a possibility
      Slam -> Would give me serious credence to consider we are in a mastermind scum game => Someone like Rayn is keeping enough TvT tension is in place to distract
      Rayn -> falls into standard/default gameplay and probably more likely to come from Scott.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 02:00 GMT
#4923
Scott's N3 post

Well, I don't know where to start. The town's all over the place...

Many people say I have "static" reads, so I'm going to change that in this post. 

Koshi was such a light of fresh air. Lynched mafia D2 (I voted with him). Attempted to lynch DMB D3 (I stayed when I was confident Vivax was more town than DMB)
Now Koshi is - I'm not sure what the right word is. Frustrated? Well, I'm in the same boat. I cannot blame him.
I'm about 90%+ sure Koshi is dead after I post this. RIP

I need some blue to come forward. Ya'll will call me scummy for "bluehunting," but either we need some info, or a confirmed town to step up to listen to and lead (or give unbiased insight). If we mislynch today it's LYLO. Every one of you besides Koshi have done terrible things. 

Now onto the truthbombs -

On June 15 2024 15:33 Koshi wrote:
It was a fun game. I read saw the vote thread and it seems most of you are responsible for this.

I tried but you guys have this urge to be bad that you need to scratch. 

Now the roleblocker stays alive and I am dead. I applaud her partner. He must have done a good job yesterday.

Maybe tomorrow you will lynch dmb or slam.

This is what I'm going to do - without some type of claim or information. Lynch DMB or Slam.
On June 16 2024 02:27 Koshi wrote:
1 name + dmb.
Don't even bother saying 2 names. The jubjubs cant handle that.

100%.
On June 16 2024 02:32 Koshi wrote:
Like... I said a million times to look into slam and dmb. And go fishing after that. But they insist on being shitters and dont respect anybody or anything except their own dilusions. 

Asking them things is useless. Guiding them 1 cm from the promised land is useless.

Agreed.
On June 16 2024 02:34 Koshi wrote:
Interacting with them is useless.

I hear you! 
On June 16 2024 02:40 Koshi wrote:
Retarded fake cases d2 to waste 24hours. 
Fighting them tooth to nail to get Sandroba lynched while they insult us, vote us, even vote dmb.

Entire d3 I sit on dmb. Try to get the morons on dmb. It works. Dmb does nothing. 

And voila. Vivax lynched.


On June 16 2024 05:30 Koshi wrote:
D2 last 24h we had this game figured out because I combined towns consensus and had sandroba/dmb. Willing to vote on both. Trying to bring peace between the 2 town groups.

And this lasted till d3 5 hours before EoD. With a lot of work.

And then the shitters who had dmb as mafia on d2 decided to lynch Vivax instead of dmb. Going full retard.

And now you will be eaten by the shark. 

N0mn0mn0m


I don't have the energy to spend re-writing shit in my filter either. If you have a question you want me to explain or expand - I'll do my best. 

I voted for lynched mafia D2. 
Most of you voted for town lynch D3.
 

Koshi top town

Least scummy to most 

Rayn- Lynched mafia D2. I cannot say that about many others. Still locked on Trfel, Slam, AZ town. Which makes little sense. There's definitely mafia in those three.
Trfel—still the waffliest town I've seen in awhile. Hints about lynching me, but won't pull the gun. I know he's done it to Mocsta and DMB. Has he done it to Slam? 
Mocsta: One post from AZ makes him give up on him, which to me is amazing. I feel a lot of follow-thread sentiment here. 
AlphaZero - What else is there to say? "Your reads haven't changed." You are right—you're mafia or terrible. I don't know how others that I know are more intelligent than myself do not see it. If you are mafia, there's only one other. It can't be you/Trfel/Mocsta/Rayn. But they are blind to AlphaZero. I'm stumped. But mentioning you as a mafia member will confuse the jubjubs, so that's probably not happening today.
DMB: DMB was kind of pissed off after the lynch and noted, "I'll revenge you, Vivax," in so many words and not much else. Koshi's main scum read.
Alakaslam - Still doing the Slam thing. Hasn't voted for the mafia. Voted for Trfel yesterday. 

I'll be checking the thread, but I'm not going to pour hours into my defense. I do follow to play for my win condition as town, but there's a line that it'll be more time beneficial to: planting flowers, reading Koshi's filter, hookers and blow, drinking, cleaning, pretty much anything else. 

Without "blue" info, I'll be sheeping Koshi and voting for Alakaslam or DMB unless something major occurs. 

Good luck, Jubjubs!
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 16 2024 02:01 GMT
#4924
Day 4


[image loading]


Trfel the Vanilla Town has been killed.


Day 4 begins. The day ends on Tuesday, Jun 18 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:02 GMT
#4925
oooohhh fascinating indeed

if the trfel/az pair is shot, it points to scott being scum


thats really interesting
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 02:03 GMT
#4926
Very interesting
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:03 GMT
#4927
gg Trfel

you did well to establish innocence and keep an open mind

I still was expecting one of rayn.koshi to be shot.. very condemning i feel
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:05 GMT
#4928
im still processing koshi is around tbf

scott i won't auto-vote you

really want koshi to claim rn
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:07 GMT
#4929
On June 16 2024 11:00 scott31337 wrote:
Mocsta: One post from AZ makes him give up on him, which to me is amazing. I feel a lot of follow-thread sentiment here. 
Scott, why do you interpret this as following thread sentiment?

Do you disagree that mafia!AZ would not have dropped a scumread on me at that moment of chaos?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:11 GMT
#4930
@Scott

[quote[DMB: DMB was kind of pissed off after the lynch and noted, "I'll revenge you, Vivax," in so many words and not much else. Koshi's main scum read.[/quote]

Technically, if DMB is mafia she enact revenge by shooting Trfel... This is an interesting association i had not considered


hmmm sheep koshi or not that is the question
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 02:13 GMT
#4931
On June 16 2024 11:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2024 11:00 scott31337 wrote:
Mocsta: One post from AZ makes him give up on him, which to me is amazing. I feel a lot of follow-thread sentiment here. 
Scott, why do you interpret this as following thread sentiment?

Do you disagree that mafia!AZ would not have dropped a scumread on me at that moment of chaos?


Yes.

Are you willing to hear? Because I mentioned I wasn't going to talk about AZ.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 02:14 GMT
#4932
On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

die_meatbaby (3): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 02:19 GMT
#4933
On June 16 2024 11:11 Mocsta wrote:
@Scott

[quote[DMB: DMB was kind of pissed off after the lynch and noted, "I'll revenge you, Vivax," in so many words and not much else. Koshi's main scum read.


Technically, if DMB is mafia she enact revenge by shooting Trfel... This is an interesting association i had not considered


hmmm sheep koshi or not that is the question[/QUOTE]

Good thought.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:23 GMT
#4934
On June 16 2024 11:13 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2024 11:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 16 2024 11:00 scott31337 wrote:
Mocsta: One post from AZ makes him give up on him, which to me is amazing. I feel a lot of follow-thread sentiment here. 
Scott, why do you interpret this as following thread sentiment?

Do you disagree that mafia!AZ would not have dropped a scumread on me at that moment of chaos?


Yes.

Are you willing to hear? Because I mentioned I wasn't going to talk about AZ.
I'm willing to hear . I don't see it closing up today's discussion

Like for me you are only scum by PoE
I haven't agreed with any points about you being scum

Treat that however you will with optionality etc

Just being truthful
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:23 GMT
#4935
On June 16 2024 11:14 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

die_meatbaby (3): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


are you suggesting I was a tiebreaker between dmb and alphazero?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 02:41 GMT
#4936
On June 16 2024 11:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2024 11:14 scott31337 wrote:
On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

die_meatbaby (3): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


are you suggesting I was a tiebreaker between dmb and alphazero?


I'm not suggesting it, you were it when you left your vote. You were aware of such, correct?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 16 2024 02:50 GMT
#4937
its possible its koshi and/or rayn but if either of them are mafia we just lose.

I honestly think that mocsta is too transparent with his thinking and his thought processes mostly make sense.

That leaves scott, dmb and slam.

I tend to think slam is only mafia if its with rayn, cause rayn agrees with me argument on why he is town.

So I guess that leaves scott and DMB.

Not sure that pairing makes the most sense.

Scott is the scummiest and has slipped MULTIPLE times in the past day.

So im voting scott.

Vote: Scott
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 02:52 GMT
#4938
On June 16 2024 11:41 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2024 11:23 Mocsta wrote:
On June 16 2024 11:14 scott31337 wrote:
On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

die_meatbaby (3): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


are you suggesting I was a tiebreaker between dmb and alphazero?


I'm not suggesting it, you were it when you left your vote. You were aware of such, correct?
no was not aware

this is either a really confirmation biased assessment, or intentionally malicious.
The sequence is below - how about you tell me which of the two it is.

On June 15 2024 08:41 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 08:39 Trfel wrote:
On June 15 2024 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
On June 15 2024 07:59 Trfel wrote:
The lack of activity suggests to me that die_meatbaby is town. I would now like to lynch scott31337 or Vivax instead.
wait.. whats different to the sandroba lynch?

that was settled 5hrs before deadline
Before the day 2 deadline:
30 minutes/page
1 hour/page
20 minutes/page
40 minutes/page
20 minutes/page
40 minutes/page
40 minutes/page
12 minutes/page
30 minutes/page

I think you see my point?

Compared to here, until I posted that I wanted a different lynch:
3 hours/page
2 hours/page
2 hours/page

thats compelling

farq

##unvote


im going to stew on this

if im not going dmb, im not prepared for vivax today i dont think there is enough support

its either scott or az.. unfortunatley we have 180 reads on both
On June 15 2024 08:50 Mocsta wrote:
fuck this
im going to back myself and vote az
i need this resolved

##vote: AlphaZero

c'mon scott/vivax join me
On June 15 2024 09:03 AlphaZero wrote:
For me it’s not the worst if I get mislynched. It would def help me irl.

Just please lynch vivax and Scott afterwards.

And lynch whoever out of koshi and Rayn if either are alive at lylo
On June 15 2024 09:06 Mocsta wrote:
holy shit.. wow wow wow

ughhhhh

theres no way mafia says this.. only i can know this because i know im town

##unvote

i need to process this. going to leave game for a bit
On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

die_meatbaby (3): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (1): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (1): Mocsta

With 3 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in






scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 16 2024 03:09 GMT
#4939
On June 16 2024 11:50 AlphaZero wrote:
its possible its koshi and/or rayn but if either of them are mafia we just lose.

I honestly think that mocsta is too transparent with his thinking and his thought processes mostly make sense.

That leaves scott, dmb and slam.

I tend to think slam is only mafia if its with rayn, cause rayn agrees with me argument on why he is town.

So I guess that leaves scott and DMB.

Not sure that pairing makes the most sense.

Scott is the scummiest and has slipped MULTIPLE times in the past day.

So im voting scott.

Vote: Scott


If it's Koshi I'm willing to lose.

If it's Rayn - like I said it's his super townread on Slam, Trfel and yourself. One's dead, so he was right on one. I felt Trfel town but so waffly. But the other two?

I'm willing to listen and learn and research on Rayn. But he's my top town for the Sandroba lynch, which is more than many others have done - like yourself.

So, your "If it's Rayn or Koshi GG" mindset is pretty shitty.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 16 2024 03:13 GMT
#4940
koshi has much much better progression to claim cred for sandroba lynch than rayn

rayn has totally lost interest in the game, evidenced by his admission he still hasnt caught up on d3 and yet throwing out scum reads

rayn is also demanding cred for what transpired. koshi not so much, hes more wielding it to say dumb dumb follow me. rayn is wielding it to say townread me

one is a fair bit scummier than the other
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