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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 11:13 GMT
#4383
Really wondering right now if

Sandroba / dmb /vivax can work

Az, trfel put a thought that has lingered in my mind
I do agree with trfel we were collaborating

How did you change your read on me?

It seemed to come about after my n2 case. At least from my perspective.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 11:37 GMT
#4390
I'm here next 15mim

I need to filter dive to come.up.with a question

For now.. who is partnered with az?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 11:43 GMT
#4395
On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.

D1 hard enough without missing a handful.

Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly.
Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.


Well you still need to vote too

Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world?


Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway.

I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone.

Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here

##vote k

Hi dmb

You thought the d1 wagon was town town mislynch and threw out as

You have some banter with rsoultin about az and talk about him immediately giving you cold on the neck

What specifically was scummy for you with az day1
Supporting quotes would be handy
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 11:49 GMT
#4397
On June 09 2024 12:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:07 Vivax wrote:
Scott is never going to get lynched on D2, and he isn‘t going to get vigged either. Going by experience.

Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him.


how about giving a look on ninja rayn or az
I don't get the.obsessiin with az

This is maybe the 10th post I have seen you imply he is scummy and I'm only up to you in n1

But you haven't asked a single question or.queried him.yet you do this with players that are not scum reads

Why is this?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 12:16 GMT
#4424
On June 14 2024 21:02 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 20:57 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:53 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
Where are you guys talk to me!!!!

I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist.

That being said.

I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me.

You are still mafia.

I will skim again later. Eating now.

Why am I mafia. Why do you believe this scumteam everytime for a dmb misslynch if you are town

I dont need good reasons. You are the least townie out of all players here except maybe Slam.

Also pls dont give me these "always" "everytime" scenarios from the past because I dont remember if what you say is true. And tbh I dont believe it so..


then tell me why I am not townie.
I made the first case on sandroba before other people made a real case on him.
You really think that my mafia game would be this good that I would start with a sandro/mocstar case???

I dont remember you being a good factor for the sandroba lynch. The opposite was true.


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
rsoultin/koshi
Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would.

Scott

On June 07 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
I think scott31337 is probably the most suspicious person to ever play this game. He's just always mafia somehow, even when his role PM says he is town


I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games.

Trfl
On June 07 2024 20:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Trfel spending time and energy to fence sit seems townie to me, I don’t really like how rayn has approached today tbh the buddying trfel smells not good

I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing.
Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team.
For right now I see him as a Townie

Sandroba
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba
this is 2 page filter.
he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier.
far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again.

IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now:
Mocsta
sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read
On June 07 2024 23:21 sandroba wrote:
I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me


looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates
then the next posts felt to me like playing togther
On June 08 2024 00:11 Mocsta wrote:
On June 08 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote:
Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question.
If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion.
If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda.
yeah I get this now and accept it's the most likely options

I was too focused on a third option which is too low odds (i.e. genuine role query)


the sandro we never saw sandro again...
what happend was

Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1

I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR?
Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro?

and why jail oats anyway?
if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats?

Or have I already found the team here?

this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me!

also in the same time i think
Vivax
I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again.
He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct

or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats.

AZ
I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now

Rayn
In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him.

Slam
to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him


AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM

that was so early on d2 at that time people where still on vivax wagon. Me too btw because I saw nobody was interested in that so i stay with wagons town decided to have. becuase when i make a only vote on somebody I am scum as well. What I have learned because of you

But vivax was a scum.read in that list?

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 12:18 GMT
#4426
On June 14 2024 21:03 AlphaZero wrote:
Currently I have Scott Mocsta, vivax and dmb on my wagon. The most scummy wagon possible.

Feels good.

And somehow Mocsta is being the most reasonable of the three and he literally wrote a ragequit post.

This game is hard because everyone looks trash.

I will be voting dmb most likely

I just need.to.process what that means for you

What you wrote for read transition on me seemed quite reasonable and I hadn't considered somehow that snadroba flip could have impacted your read on me yet it's completely fair
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 13:01 GMT
#4439
On June 14 2024 21:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 21:21 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:14 Koshi wrote:
@dmb
I glossed over your posts again.

Literally nothing in there that shows any sign that you convinced yourself about something in the last 100+ hours playing this game.

So sending in second nuke.

You are mafia.

if you all hadn't ignored the very first real case about sandro (from me) then you would know that i am town and was correct with at least one read. maybe I was wrong with mocstar. We still don´t know but if so it´s okey because I know at least I made one right thing and nobody was intersted in it

Again about this case? I just looked at it. It's horrible.

Show me something you wrote only town!dmb could have deducted from reading this thread.


The only thing thats makes me look like scum is not beeing sure about Vivax alignment and it pisses me off.
no. It's that you have been as accurate as Nostradamus yet no filter posts to back up how you derived the conclusions

Tmi
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 13:39 GMT
#4446
On June 14 2024 21:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Koshi could be mafia because he is kind of subtly trying to pit me and Rayn against each other here.

Usually this guy likes to fork town circles.

Unless I’m completely pocketed I think Rayn town. So he is kind of undermining collaboration here.

He’s also kind of doing it on a broader level with changing reads all the time.


Just noting for later.
I was expecting koshi to be shot
I'm really surprised by the oats kill,.no disrespect to oats there either.

Note, I see reasons koshi could do that as town as well. Especially if he foresees a mafia!Rayn or az lunch being extremely difficult to achieve.

I'm somewhat warming up to you associatively
1. Trfel stuff today
2. Your change on me is plausible
3. Associatively i'm imagining a world where mafia!dmb is comfortable dropping 'heat' on town!az because you are a Smurf

I can drop this in pursuit of #3

Dmb is playing too scummy to be scum and has to be lynched
- filter reads disengaged throughout
- filter is conclusions, no method to reach conclusion
- filter is confident on all things flipped.kelsier and sandroba and I suspect Scott

I just feel bad Cos it was literally a pile on 1 hr a go. I hope she's willing to play again I really.do

##unvote
##vote: dmb
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 13:42 GMT
#4447
Which juiciest wagon build up in game so far
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 13:42 GMT
#4448
Which = whoah
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 14:03 GMT
#4451
On June 14 2024 23:01 Vivax wrote:
I‘m assuming they could be a team so he busses one while pushing the CW
It's not impossible
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 14:05 GMT
#4453
On June 14 2024 23:04 Vivax wrote:
I assume if you are voting mocsta and say you‘re town you should be trying to pick him apart not dmb
I have given all I can to trfel regarding az

How about comment on that instead?

I take it you are town reading dmb to say this? Which makes.me confused as I thought you meant before dmb could be mafia with az?

Am.i mistaken?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 14:12 GMT
#4457
On June 14 2024 23:09 Vivax wrote:
But that can change.
I think Az is triangulating here

What do you mean?

Is Scott is the triangle?

I'm taken slightly back you think me and dmb or Me and az could be a duo

Maybe me and dmb

There's like no way me and az can be mafia/mafia
There's no upside to have it's been playing out
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 14:13 GMT
#4458
Wait

Vivax so you're telling me
If dmb filter was a smurf

You would read the past couple pages and go. Dayam that's townie as fuck?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 14:23 GMT
#4461
On June 14 2024 23:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 23:13 Mocsta wrote:
Wait

Vivax so you're telling me
If dmb filter was a smurf

You would read the past couple pages and go. Dayam that's townie as fuck?


No I think all the fuckfucks flying around are a good sign they’re nervous
Ok yet I am.syruggling to compute

Vivax left hand = dmb is nervous -> implies scummy

Vivax right hand = mocsta you shouldn't vote dmb. Press az instead

I can't reconcile this?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 14:49 GMT
#4467
On June 14 2024 23:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 23:23 Mocsta wrote:
On June 14 2024 23:19 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2024 23:13 Mocsta wrote:
Wait

Vivax so you're telling me
If dmb filter was a smurf

You would read the past couple pages and go. Dayam that's townie as fuck?


No I think all the fuckfucks flying around are a good sign they’re nervous
Ok yet I am.syruggling to compute

Vivax left hand = dmb is nervous -> implies scummy

Vivax right hand = mocsta you shouldn't vote dmb. Press az instead

I can't reconcile this?


I was talking about az voting you but pushing dmb you git
well it could be read either way (me.or az) in particular as you said I could be a bus or maybe I misremember already..super tired. Thanks for clarifying though
On June 14 2024 23:04 Vivax wrote:
I assume if you are voting mocsta and say you‘re town you should be trying to pick him apart not dmb


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 15:09 GMT
#4471
On June 15 2024 00:05 scott31337 wrote:
I'm still down for AZ if anyone wants to come back, but I'm skeptical. Although I was happy DMB switched. I was thinking last night, who could I possibly convince? Maybe DMB maybe Koshi. I didn't think Mocsta would change though. Although Mocsta did once AZ was ahead. Hmmm

I have a couple hours and then I'll be doing secondary job stuff until a few hours before deadline.

I switched before I saw a vote count

I thought I still had 5

Not that it matters or is proveable

If you think I'm scummy for switching on your tunneled read that's nuts

I didn't say I said tunneled because there's 2 players left

Yeah I get az is your preference, but I have some doubts which you can agree or disagree with

Like .. you need to explain please why you are ok dmb jumped on az

I take it you are caught up

Do you townread dmb based on past few pages?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 15:11 GMT
#4472
Btw Scott

Alpha should still be lynched as it stands as he would be first to 3

Obviously any vote movement to others will change that
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 15:18 GMT
#4475
On June 15 2024 00:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 23:52 scott31337 wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:12 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:11 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:03 AlphaZero wrote:
Currently I have Scott Mocsta, vivax and dmb on my wagon. The most scummy wagon possible.

Feels good.

And somehow Mocsta is being the most reasonable of the three and he literally wrote a ragequit post.

This game is hard because everyone looks trash.


2 townies and a distancing mafia.

Bit the same as Sandroba voting dmb after calling me 100% mafia.


I’m not mafia. Zzzzz

Strat looking at rayn then.


Why not you?

I still have fucking Scott as mafia. And if you are town then o think you are dead wrong.

I will be rip tomorrow.


See if you really think this Koshi we should get AZ today

You guys will have to catch the big fish.
you're really different to what I remember

Is that me living in the past?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 14 2024 21:33 GMT
#4532
On June 15 2024 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 00:48 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2024 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi are you sure DMB is mafia?
I will vote with you if you are sure.

Yes. If you promise Slam is town.

Okay, and yes.

##unvote
##vote DMB

I'm on the dmb wagon

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