EPTOn June 13 2024 16:21 Koshi wrote:
I think I am wrong because he is pushing an agenda now.
I think I am wrong because he is pushing an agenda now.
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On June 13 2024 16:29 AlphaZero wrote: Fair enoughI think mocsta is mafia, so there is the active mafia. See there isn't push pull tension with me It's just push or pull You mentioned Rayn masons Is that historical or are you 2 paired again? | ||
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On June 13 2024 16:10 Trfel wrote: perhaps this is what az meant by the afkDon't worry Mocsta, I didn't have a reason to vote for sandroba. I was doing the thing I did with Vivax again  Key difference is that Vivax kept playing when there were votes on him. Sandroba didn't. Had sandroba shown fight and defended himself and worked to find mafia, I would have voted for someone else. As he continued to not do so, that told me he was mafia. Very very slow to figure it out but better late than never I guess? see what you said makes sense to me.. present but not resisting whereas, when i see afk. i took it literally as not present afk is pretty careful with his word choice though, so im really going out of my way here to view favourably for az | ||
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On June 13 2024 17:16 Trfel wrote: only scott should answer thisI need to go to sleep soon. I will think about scott31337. I guess it has seemed like he's been much more focused on getting AlphaZero lynched than he has been on finding mafia. Is this reasonable? In his eyes, AlphaZero is mafia because AlphaZero was scumreading him. But Day 2, when AlphaZero stopped actively pushing the scott31337 scumread, scott31337's view didn't change at all? its probably relevant where his sandroba read sat on day1 as well you have tickled my curiosity about writing the sandroba case enough i may look at some past games to see if acts similarly | ||
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On June 13 2024 17:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: whats with the tone? are you calling me scumVery safe thing to say. I will let you do your useless search though. if you think its a waste of time, what do you suggest i examine? | ||
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On June 13 2024 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: well that was before the flip. maybe you changed like meYes i am calling you scum. Not for that, but you should know i sm calling you scum aleready. look. you want to put me in your pool. go ahead no need to shit the thread up with this stuff im trying mate, doing the best i can (yes as town) you go take that however you want to. | ||
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On June 13 2024 17:41 AlphaZero wrote: hmmm. i imagine soMocsta would you say you were capable of posting 18 pages as mafia by day three? maybe 12-15 is more realistic i am ok with heat, but not this much. i mean. i see its anti-town and i couldnt cross that line as mafia so 12-15 i reckon | ||
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his take on sandroba has been pretty damn consistent and lines up with thread evolution.. all his stuff with sandroba has been reactive too, and has maintained his top reads. I dunno, really does come across to me as a townie working across multiple suspects | ||
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On June 13 2024 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: dude you may not see eye to eye with my approach and thats okYou even do all thir research on who sandroba interacted with D1/D2 an you leave me out ofd that research. like. i dont have the brain capacity to check every single fuckin player eveyr single time info changes. i prirotised DMB to validate whoever said zero interactions, and then noticed AZ read on sandroba was not what i had in my mind it was which puzzled me, and as per that post it went back a lot further than i realised like do i townread you by filter. no. you are remarkably different than what i remember.. which i accept could be on me as well, or that both of us have gotten older and differences do come with that. do i townread you by association to committ to sandroba vote on d2. yes which does come with a scummy caveat. if dmb flips scum, i would drop you to null and reexamine. Theres 2 scenarios i can think of where scum!rayn dees commit to the sandro bus, and both involve scum!dmb 1 = maximise cred 2 = save power role but again, the game isnt there, its not a consideration for me part of why im also talking to you nicer like i got nothing else mate? | ||
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On June 13 2024 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: that was before the flipThe problem for me is, that you still made a post where you said "rayn is 100% mafia and then one of sandroba/DMB is mafia". When sandroba turns out to be mafia, why does that change your opinion on me? Because it should not, if your opinions during D2 hold water. now the flip doesnt mean you become town.. it was because like i said. you were first on and had A LOT of time to get off or create other opportunities the point is i re-evaluated now, if you want to call me scum for doing that. then do it. its a policy lynch. admit it, and i wont hold hard feelings like i said, the only situation i would re-evaluate you now, is based on DMB, and i didnt say you would be scum. its null. and i would have to go through you 20+ or whatever it is filter | ||
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On June 13 2024 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: to me, you can only be mafia if dmb is mafiaMy point is, from what i read of your posts during D2, you thought i can be mafia with sandroba. When sandroba flips mafia, why can't i be mafia with sandroba? theres what 9 players left? so theres a 7 in 9 chance to be town like. i just dont believe in this game that mafia go out of there way to bus you were first on sando, stayed on, didnt deviate or create opportunitie to deviate why wouldnt i recognise that as 7 in 9? i dunno what more i can tell you | ||
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dude. its already there, i gave 2 specific scenarios that only unlock based on dmb because dmb was the counter wagon i know you read good too, what is this? | ||
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On June 13 2024 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmmm, i dont think so?If i get it right what you are saying, you think there is a chance that mafia!rayn went to fuck up mafia!sandroba because there was a wagon on mafia!dmb? That's your interpretaion? i'm saying the mafia!rayn is a good player and recognises the preferred outcome is always to mislynch than bus so why bus? theres only 2 scenarios i value; both contingent on DMB being mafia.. thus, both wagons are mafia, and there is not insufficient thread control to push onto mislynch scenario 1 = Sandro goon, DMB power.. mafia decide to prioritise keeping the power role scenario 2 = Sandro notified of AFK.. rayn decides to bus.. because DMB is a counter wagon, is forced to commit to the bus and ride the cred i genuinely believe mafia!rayn hops of the bus at some point if DMB is town is this breakdown actaully diffferent to what i wrote before? to me its the same thing with more words? thats a real question | ||
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On June 13 2024 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: i would say the majority disagrees based on comments they have actively made of meTrfel thoughts on Mocsta? Can you fucking see he is only working with whatever the thread sentiment is at times? i dont think i have yet been accused of FOLLOWING thread sentiment.. following /working surely is the same meaning? | ||
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even from way back its very processed, nuanced conclusions. and i just cant fill the gaps to reach or follow the points you make sorta like a chess player talking about optimum moves at a GM level. you just see the game differently and rule out a lot of mechanisms to even get close to the relevance/essence. now you being you are going to throw that back at me and say why havent i queried well fuckn, i have been focused elsewhere and you have 20 pages of 20 posts i would have to query.. stAAWWWP IT! not gunna happen unless i have to | ||
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On June 13 2024 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: yo're really misinterpretting thisyou know i voted, and advocated sandroba lynch BEFORE dmb became a wagon? Everyone was on Vivax when i voted and advocated sandroba lynch. Everyone at the time was saying sandroba is town. Why do you lie about me? im commenting on the 1 in 9 chance that you specifically asked me to talk about i have said repeatedly, this is not my frame for talking to you. *i dont believe this is the case* like wtf is this? | ||
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On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: is this the post you meanSandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list. That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list. Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? theres such a lag between votes. i've never looked at this as momentously as you did to be fair. i have never understood this point ithis is an example of what i meant i said to trfel i wanted to find a sandroba case i could understand | ||
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On June 13 2024 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: i dont understand manhttps://tl.net/forum/mafia/626711-sweet-summer-vote-thread?page=3#41 why are you telling me i "had to bus"? Sure there should be some other reasoning behind it, than what the vote thread says. im saying you are town, and if dmb flips mafia there is a consideration i have to go through i really dont get what your problem is you're hanging up on something that doesnt matter today at all? and is unlikely to matter lets say DMB flips mafia.. well. we actually have real interactions now, so i can replace associations with that and see i dont know. its why i call it a consideration im going to have dinner chill out. i hope on a re-read you realise where im coming from. town dude i coloured you green | ||
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early d2 was an absolute shit show no one was collaborating. oats refused to work with trfel trfel shit the bed and became paranoid who was the glue keeping it together... fuckn me this i believe and i did that all to go vote by myself keep being OMGUS all you want like. on this specific topic i have nothing more to say i want to be useful im lost, im willling to be pointed in a direction and discover now im going back to dinner | ||
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i dont care. i dont play the game as 1+1 = 11 as you do | ||
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