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raynpelikoneet
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On June 11 2024 17:07 Koshi wrote: I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him. What do we need to talk about? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 11 2024 17:13 Koshi wrote: You agree that AZ, Mocsta, Tfrel and Vivax were vero constructive and pro town in that conversation with Oats? Felt like 5 townies talking. What discussion are you talking about? The one where Oats tries to tell them to vote for sandroba and everyone else is zero constructive? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote: But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit? There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause. | ||
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What choice does DMB have though, as mafia, because she is the counter wagon at the time? Or DMB is town and smart and voting for mafia. | ||
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On June 11 2024 17:25 Mocsta wrote: So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia? I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of are you fucking stupid? | ||
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On June 11 2024 17:56 Mocsta wrote: well rayn was asked 2 things. 1 direct. 1 indirect Rayn answered neither Direct. "Was their deceit" = there was no need for deceit i.e. reframed scummy by dodging the question Indirect. "But the talk was good.it felt like 5 townies" = mocsta shit. Az dumb. Trfel lost cause. Vivax lose causw I.e. gives 2 of 5 a town read with a caveat... Again scummy reframe. Now.. the counter argument is that rayn is defensive due to votes. Yet... This is both overly antagonist (per my comments above) and bear in mind, as a town!rayn, koshi has mostly been an advocate for rayn and asked very politely. Even oats for all his abrasiveness and bravado does not ignore and reframe in this way. This for me is a very clear approach that only comes from.mafia mindset. mafia post | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:03 Trfel wrote: Hey raynpelikoneet, can we talk about this for a little? I don't want to upset you and once again I am sorry that I did so, but if you are town I would very much like to understand where you are coming from. Specifically the third paragraph, would you be able to explain where that is coming from? Here are the things sandroba said on rsoultin during D1: On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile Now after that Koshi enter the game in place of rsoultin, and sandroba's take on that D2 is: On June 11 2024 00:21 sandroba wrote: Okay this actually makes me feel a lot better, since I think rsoul is to me much harder to pin down as mafia than Koshi. For Koshi if he is this bad he is mafia and this view makes him mafia 100%. There is absolutely no way Koshi comes in with fresh eyes, reads the same thread as me and comes to this conclusion. I understand if sandroba thinks Koshi is mafia. Why does he have to justify it with something rsoultin did? Similar to the Oats thing in his catch up, that's all out of place, this doesn't make any sense. If sandroba thinks Koshi is mafia, why write anything about rsoultin, if he thought rsoultin is null? It's like, "because i think this person does now look scummy, suddenly their other posts that are null became scummy as well". If you get what i mean? | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:17 Vivax wrote: I might come around. I just really dislike having sandro as mafia early because he‘s n1 or n2 kill material. Why would anyone ever kill sandroba in this game N2 with the material he has produced? | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:23 Trfel wrote: So to make sure I understand correctly: If sandroba had not written that first sentence about rsoultin, and started straight into the reasons he thinks Koshi is mafia, that would have made more sense to you? yes, and also if he didnt make the stupid oats/rsoultin pairing (however shallow it might be in his mind) during catch up when important things should matter. | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes, and also if he didnt make the stupid oats/rsoultin pairing (however shallow it might be in his mind) during catch up when important things should matter. remember that this also happened BEFORE he started calling Koshi mafia, so i can only assume he made a conclusion first and then started finding reasons for it. | ||
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how about you rather argue your case of why rayn is mafia? or did you get stunned? | ||
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On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote: we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return covering your bases already? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 11 2024 18:54 Mocsta wrote: you must have sold a lot of copies of 'rayns how to play: town - dodge and reframe mastery' Let me tell you some of your mastery.... Why do you never ever share a single shred of doubt on Trfel's alignment. You havent played for what, 10 or so years, so you should have no clue about Trfel's recent meta. Trfel makes a case on Vivax. You blindly sheep onto the case. I am the only person in this game who has provably told i dont think Trfel's case on Vivax is good before he said it was fake. Even when Trfel fucking thinks i am mafia. For some reason this doesn't matter to you at all, you just take him at face value when he says "oh case was fake lets focus on rayn", and you go all balls out on rayn. Then Trfel says "no i dont really want rayn i want to actually follow him on sandroba" and you are STILL on Trfel is always town train????? I mean, for you, ther SHOULD be a reasonable amount of doubt of Trfel being town, because all the good shit in your opinion he has done he has backed out of and now he is doing stupid shit. Yet you don't. Thank you for playing, mafia. | ||
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