On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote: But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit?
There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause.
So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia?
I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of
are you fucking stupid?
let's go with yes as I'm reading what you're writing
Koshi asked a yes/no question and I saw waffles
Stupid, mofo waffles
Tbh that was bad mocsta.
well rayn was asked 2 things. 1 direct. 1 indirect
Rayn answered neither
Direct. "Was their deceit" = there was no need for deceit i.e. reframed scummy by dodging the question
Indirect. "But the talk was good.it felt like 5 townies" = mocsta shit. Az dumb. Trfel lost cause. Vivax lose causw I.e. gives 2 of 5 a town read with a caveat... Again scummy reframe.
Now.. the counter argument is that rayn is defensive due to votes. Yet... This is both overly antagonist (per my comments above) and bear in mind, as a town!rayn, koshi has mostly been an advocate for rayn and asked very politely.
Even oats for all his abrasiveness and bravado does not ignore and reframe in this way.
This for me is a very clear approach that only comes from.mafia mindset.
my issue here is why is rayn dodging a simple.question.
We have a town core which he refuses to acknowledge a town He won't talk to deceit being in place And is using language which conditions you to walk with a tail between your legs
None of this is town
Town would respond to the answer AND then switch agenda to their target OR ignore the question and switch agenda to target
I repeat.. this is not town mentality
This seems warranted Rayn, why not just answer directly?
I'm not throwing but just lynch me out or replace whatever town prefers.
I got blindsided and was just tempted to post the word "post" a few hundred times to spite someone I wanted to visit this summer and couldn't quite suddenly due to organizational and financial restrictions.
That's shitty, and not usually what this game does with my psyche. I am usually emotional and sometimes toxic but usually not more so than some hell photos or evil rants that people (I hope) know are not entirely serious. (I don't hate Biden or trump for example as they aren't responsible for the US housing crisis.)
Fuck it. I am not going to let my government's corruption and environmentalist bullshit combined with my own poor scheduling ruin my reputation with what online friends I could make here.
/Replace
Sorry Grackaroni
Sorry town
Sorry mafia
Aaaaand screw this,
I wanted to avoid being a tantrum throwing bitch- so I bitched and threw a tantrum.
Very sagacious behavior.
Koshi you didn't offend me (sandroba did a little ) you just frustrated me enough (because I was stressed already by shit that you had no bearing on) to want to do petty malicious bullshit and I caught myself. I wanted to spam out my filter to 20 pages and end it with "still sr me koshi?" And went "no I will not allow myself to keep doing this toxic bullshit" and then went and did a toxic bullshit.
I will try to read recent stuff ':-S
Welcome back.
I know I asked before and you said you don't play that way, but I'm doing to ask again anyway.
On June 12 2024 06:35 AlphaZero wrote: Rayn: I explained in the chat the observation about the resistance to the Scott wagon was good, but the conclusion was wrong. Ie it’s not about my alignment or marvs. It’s about what the mafia were pushing and why.
What are you even talking about. I compared your read about "rayn would sub-consiously play more as town" in that i a similar way why cannot you accept the fact that i can legit have a thought in my head "why didn't marv + this AZ dude get scott lynched if they really wanted to".
You literaally answer to that, that you understand, and it's a good observation. I even say there, i don't care what Trfel says about people being around or not being around.
Please don’t misrepresent that. If you read my filter I raised that point multiple times and specifically mentioned it again in the chat. Now you are being dumb.
What did you raise multiple times? My argument is not about the resistance on lynching scott. My argument is JUST and ONLY "if marv and AZ are both town, why didn't it happen?", because they should be able to make it happen if they are both town and think scott is mafia. It's just as simple as that.
And I agreed with your take on me being dumb day 2 in the chat because it tracks with my much reduced investment levels and lack of confidence in alignments.
Yet you never say anything to Trfel while agreeing with these decent observations of mine. I am sorry, but it makes me at least iffy.
You are not representing either point accurately or in good faith.
Why?
I don't think i am.
I told you in the chat and multiple times why. We didn’t have the thread control, and there was a ton of resistance to the lynch. It’s a really bad point to try to derive an alignment based on one of us who already flipped town and another I flipped player not lynching someone over a mislynch.
The good point is recognising that me and Marv didn’t get our lynch and considering what mafia agenda is at plays
I have said and implied many times that Scott had resistance to the lynch and I find that point to be good.
You trying to derive my alignment from it is madness.
Why didn’t you vote with me and Marv if you felt that way. You just ninja voted onto Kelsier and then are blaming me for not getting my lynch done . wtf is that.
On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote: But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit?
There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause.
So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia?
I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of
are you fucking stupid?
let's go with yes as I'm reading what you're writing
Koshi asked a yes/no question and I saw waffles
Stupid, mofo waffles
Tbh that was bad mocsta.
well rayn was asked 2 things. 1 direct. 1 indirect
Rayn answered neither
Direct. "Was their deceit" = there was no need for deceit i.e. reframed scummy by dodging the question
Indirect. "But the talk was good.it felt like 5 townies" = mocsta shit. Az dumb. Trfel lost cause. Vivax lose causw I.e. gives 2 of 5 a town read with a caveat... Again scummy reframe.
Now.. the counter argument is that rayn is defensive due to votes. Yet... This is both overly antagonist (per my comments above) and bear in mind, as a town!rayn, koshi has mostly been an advocate for rayn and asked very politely.
Even oats for all his abrasiveness and bravado does not ignore and reframe in this way.
This for me is a very clear approach that only comes from.mafia mindset.
my issue here is why is rayn dodging a simple.question.
We have a town core which he refuses to acknowledge a town He won't talk to deceit being in place And is using language which conditions you to walk with a tail between your legs
None of this is town
Town would respond to the answer AND then switch agenda to their target OR ignore the question and switch agenda to target
I repeat.. this is not town mentality
This seems warranted Rayn, why not just answer directly?
On June 12 2024 06:35 AlphaZero wrote: Rayn: I explained in the chat the observation about the resistance to the Scott wagon was good, but the conclusion was wrong. Ie it’s not about my alignment or marvs. It’s about what the mafia were pushing and why.
What are you even talking about. I compared your read about "rayn would sub-consiously play more as town" in that i a similar way why cannot you accept the fact that i can legit have a thought in my head "why didn't marv + this AZ dude get scott lynched if they really wanted to".
You literaally answer to that, that you understand, and it's a good observation. I even say there, i don't care what Trfel says about people being around or not being around.
Please don’t misrepresent that. If you read my filter I raised that point multiple times and specifically mentioned it again in the chat. Now you are being dumb.
What did you raise multiple times? My argument is not about the resistance on lynching scott. My argument is JUST and ONLY "if marv and AZ are both town, why didn't it happen?", because they should be able to make it happen if they are both town and think scott is mafia. It's just as simple as that.
And I agreed with your take on me being dumb day 2 in the chat because it tracks with my much reduced investment levels and lack of confidence in alignments.
Yet you never say anything to Trfel while agreeing with these decent observations of mine. I am sorry, but it makes me at least iffy.
You are not representing either point accurately or in good faith.
Why?
I don't think i am.
I told you in the chat and multiple times why. We didn’t have the thread control, and there was a ton of resistance to the lynch. It’s a really bad point to try to derive an alignment based on one of us who already flipped town and another I flipped player not lynching someone over a mislynch.
The good point is recognising that me and Marv didn’t get our lynch and considering what mafia agenda is at plays
I have said and implied many times that Scott had resistance to the lynch and I find that point to be good.
You trying to derive my alignment from it is madness.
Why didn’t you vote with me and Marv if you felt that way. You just ninja voted onto Kelsier and then are blaming me for not getting my lynch done . wtf is that.
Maybe we're just not understanding each other then about that. I know people are claiming you didn't have thread control and bla bla, it still nags me.
I am not using it against you, it was a reason why i -- during N1 -- gave a very good look into your and marv's alignments. I am not saying it makes you mafia, i am sorry if you feel like i am. I am saying it is a point for me to look into your alignment.
Why aren't you interested in scott then, if you feel like it's a relevant point? You have been sheeping Trfel all day and given no fucks about something you think had merit of being scum-indicative...
I have clearly told why i voted for Kelsier. my townreads rsoultin and Oats were on Kelsier, my mafia read marv was on scott. That's it. If you have a problem with it why didn't you raise it during N1 when i told marv the exact same thing?
On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause.
So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia?
I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of
are you fucking stupid?
let's go with yes as I'm reading what you're writing
Koshi asked a yes/no question and I saw waffles
Stupid, mofo waffles
Tbh that was bad mocsta.
well rayn was asked 2 things. 1 direct. 1 indirect
Rayn answered neither
Direct. "Was their deceit" = there was no need for deceit i.e. reframed scummy by dodging the question
Indirect. "But the talk was good.it felt like 5 townies" = mocsta shit. Az dumb. Trfel lost cause. Vivax lose causw I.e. gives 2 of 5 a town read with a caveat... Again scummy reframe.
Now.. the counter argument is that rayn is defensive due to votes. Yet... This is both overly antagonist (per my comments above) and bear in mind, as a town!rayn, koshi has mostly been an advocate for rayn and asked very politely.
Even oats for all his abrasiveness and bravado does not ignore and reframe in this way.
This for me is a very clear approach that only comes from.mafia mindset.
my issue here is why is rayn dodging a simple.question.
We have a town core which he refuses to acknowledge a town He won't talk to deceit being in place And is using language which conditions you to walk with a tail between your legs
None of this is town
Town would respond to the answer AND then switch agenda to their target OR ignore the question and switch agenda to target
I repeat.. this is not town mentality
This seems warranted Rayn, why not just answer directly?
EPT
) you just frustrated me enough (because I was stressed already by shit that you had no bearing on) to want to do petty malicious bullshit and I caught myself. I wanted to spam out my filter to 20 pages and end it with "still sr me koshi?" And went "no I will not allow myself to keep doing this toxic bullshit" and then went and did a toxic bullshit.
