Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 16

On June 18 2024 17:17 Mocsta wrote:
Slam

What if there were no blues

Then what?

Gut can always fall back to that

On June 18 2024 18:23 Mocsta wrote:

He also said Scott was town

I'm just saying ignore anything non flipped and go back to first principles

What makes more sense

Sandroba dmb + Rayn / Scott / mocsta / slam / az / koshi?

Do you think sandroba pushed mafia Scott d1? Did sandroba scum or town read Scott at time.of lynch? Was sandroba setting up to lynch Scott d2 or keep a scum buddy safe?

Why would mocsta shoot all the people that townread and stood up for him. Where's the benefit?

Would a scum alphazero just vote mocsta when the first dmb wagon collapsed and the shifted onto az? Why didn't he go OMGUS?

Was Rayns 2 sentence to vote sandroba really that great like he says? why did it take koshi to get the wagon going

Ask yourself how did early sandroba voters use their lynch.. one person said look how town I am.. the other said sheep me to vote more scum.. can you guess which is scummy and which is townie? Can you guess who said which?

Who gains the most by keeping shooting clear town reads (oats/trfel) instead of big players...

Rayn said it himself. He does not believe there is a protective role in the game... Ask yourself why would he know? It's certainly something you can infer if you know the mafia team setup...how else?

I know my answers and I'm voting Rayn next cycle

On June 19 2024 13:08 scott31337 wrote:


Is there more than Hijole's and Youtube videos?

On June 20 2024 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can someone show me what is the bbcode to link something into the text?

On June 20 2024 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna first say this, i don't know if it means anything to anyone and i really don't care but i am gonna say it anyways. For the past games since i rolled mafia, i have either not been able to play really, because i have been killed on N1-N2, or i have been called mafia by pretty much everyone in the obs QT at least (thankfully players in those games have been way better than obs QT).

So i decided to post in a way that i have been flamed for -- for thinking that type of posting comes from mafia, especially in the last game's obs QT. Notice that this is not saying i am playing intentionally bad, i just leave things that dont matter unsaid, and if i dont want to, or feel like to talk with someone i wont. This includes also stuff like no activity on weekends (also because i had no time past couple of weekends), only thing i didn't get to yet this game, is making arbitrary lists of no use, but i'll get to that next game.

I dont really wanna talk about D1 or N1 because unless scott is mafia, everything is just a waste of space, and if scott is mafia then i am not mafia so who the fuck cares.

I really had my most enjoyable times in this game D2-N2 talking with AZ, while a big lot of it was just him calling me mafia. But we DID have some nice conversations!! I again lost interest at some point when Trfel started calling me mafia with stuff like "you have not said anything smart", then i counter with "look Trfel, even if these things are wrong they are pretty damn smart -- backed up by other people, mainly AZ", and his response is "you havent said anything smart".... Maybe i am too old, but i dont really have any interest talking to rocks anymore, let alone convincing them.

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, that i am trying to take so "scummy credit" from sandroba's lynch (mainly pushed by mocsta)? It is literally bullshit argument. The only thing i have ever said about that, is that i pushed sandroba when everyone was on vivax, while telling (AZ) that case on vivax is bad. Idk how i am "using my credit in different way than Koshi is". it doesnt even make any sense.

Only way Koshi thought DMB is mafia is because he had a check, and i told Slam is 100% town. Just read the game, you can read it there, because Koshi thought Slam is mafia!! Then people (Koshi too!!!) start claiming that me, and me alone (apparently) was the reason DMB didn't get lynched D3. Sure, if you wanna call me mafia for not getting Koshi's soft claim, then yeah you can blame me. Here is the votecount at the time i voted though:

I clearly said i need to go, and i will not vote for vivax over DMB (before my vote here).
AZ told me to go to sleep and not worry about it, which is the biggest reason i town read him, and that's the reason i voted for vivax over him. I do not think he would do that as mafia, rather than get me to vote for vivax to save himself. It was a nice play if he actually did it as mafia, but i don't think so, also as i said before my vote, all the scummy people were voting for AZ (mocsta, DMB, scott).

I did not vote for vivax to save dmb, i voted vivax to save AZ, when the sentiment already turned into vivax vs AZ. I dont know why Koshi is blaming me for that, when basically everyone else is more to "blame".... I made a decision between my two town reads, AZ read more town.

It's also a bit confusing that at least Koshi seemed to be thinking, that i managed to figure out he is a power role enough to roleblock him, but not enough to kill him?!?!? :D I mean like i made a mistake, the biggest mistake i made this game, to not realise Koshi is a parity cop with checks on DMB and Slam. Yeah i missed it. But like if i am mafia with DMB, i make the deduction that Koshi is a power role (knowing DMB is mafia), and then i do not kill him?? I think it's a very absurd claim to say i am smart enough to figure out PR, but dumb enough not to kill them (nobody would have cared about DMB without full claim from Koshi lol). Sure him flipping PC would do the same thing, but you remove confirmed town from the game instead of what... Trfel, who just fucked up the DMB lynch all by himself? Also if i know that, why do i whiteknight Slam at that point?

Talking about that, Koshi also said i am mafia because i "bluehunted Slam". I never bluehunted Slam. I knew Slam is not blue when he ragequitted, the only reason i asked if he was blue is because if he claimed blue he would be mafia. It is just as simple as that, and Slam knows that as well. If Slam was blue he would have claimed instead of asking for replacement. If he says this is not true, then he is probably godfather or just really fucking stupid...

I also see people calling me mafia for "not voting the confirmed mafia". Well first of all that confirmed mafia is mostly confirmed because of me (as i whiteknighted Slam -- EVEN TO AZ!!!). Secondly, if we have one mislynch, who the fuck cares if i vote anyone in the three people containing two mafia? Why possibly would i do that as mafia? Mafia is all about posturing, why do i "un-pose"? It's a fucking stupid argument, apparently even AZ took that... idk what to think of that, i dont think he is mafia but if he is mafia he is mafia definitely for that. I had my reasons for "trying" that, scott passed. It doesnt mean he is town but it definitely doesnt make him mafia, which it could if he was not smart.

That's why i did the things i did. Lynch me if you lynch me, i am not mafia.

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Now for why Mocsta is mafia though:

I could get into all shit what other people did but it's unfair, so i just stick with Mocsta.


keep this in mind at first.
and this:

and this:

And then it is where Mocsta starts 100% following Trfel.
First case on Vivax, no doubt, perfect case, gogo!

Then he has some interaction with sandroba. What's weird about that interaction is that [b]he has no intention in asking anything about Vivax, who is he voting for atm]/b], but rather about AZ and scott who noone is interested in.

And then it starts, warming up on rayn wagon. Now this is the biggest mistake he made. On we go and:
Super big defense on sandroba starting from his this post in his talk with Oats.

On June 20 2024 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Pretty sure you would have been lynched already if i was mafia.

On June 20 2024 13:23 Mocsta wrote:
hi slam

On June 20 2024 17:17 Mocsta wrote:
how was da fush

On June 21 2024 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is just pushing this when he can.
Slam, you shoulöd know i am not mafia.

On June 21 2024 11:00 Mocsta wrote:
WOW... damn rayn.. tht last ditch effort was impressive