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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 17:55 GMT
#2478
What do you mean yes? Genuine and honest persons don‘t exist everyone lies.

I think you puff up your posts a lot.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:00 GMT
#2481
On June 11 2024 02:57 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 02:55 Vivax wrote:
What do you mean yes? Genuine and honest persons don‘t exist everyone lies.

I think you puff up your posts a lot.
How so?

Like I don't want to get too off track but if you're getting at something I can humor you for a bit.


You try hard to look like a saint I mean.
It seems you try to act positively but I don‘t buy it and I believe you are more interested into burying the truth about people with it. Others or yourself
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:02 GMT
#2483
I can play that part very well when I choose to.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:11 GMT
#2488
On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.

That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.

Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"?????
Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:57 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:55 Vivax wrote:
What do you mean yes? Genuine and honest persons don‘t exist everyone lies.

I think you puff up your posts a lot.
How so?

Like I don't want to get too off track but if you're getting at something I can humor you for a bit.


You try hard to look like a saint I mean.
It seems you try to act positively but I don‘t buy it and I believe you are more interested into burying the truth about people with it. Others or yourself
Okay, I mean I disagree but you have a right to your opinion. Why are you telling me this?

I try to phrase things in a way that is as accurate as possible, I want to leave the least ambiguity and provide the most direct and clear phrasing. Basically I want to deal with as few misunderstandings as possible, if me being more accurate means that there are fewer misunderstandings so we can discuss the actual content more, then that's worth it for me.


I‘m telling you this because my bullshit detector is detecting a push on me which isn‘t in good faith but I also refuse to believe you are mafia so you are hiding the true reason for wanting me lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:12 GMT
#2490
Basically what I am saying is that you are putting on the act of a liar townie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:13 GMT
#2491
On June 11 2024 03:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 03:11 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.

That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.

Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"?????
Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find.
On June 11 2024 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:57 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:55 Vivax wrote:
What do you mean yes? Genuine and honest persons don‘t exist everyone lies.

I think you puff up your posts a lot.
How so?

Like I don't want to get too off track but if you're getting at something I can humor you for a bit.


You try hard to look like a saint I mean.
It seems you try to act positively but I don‘t buy it and I believe you are more interested into burying the truth about people with it. Others or yourself
Okay, I mean I disagree but you have a right to your opinion. Why are you telling me this?

I try to phrase things in a way that is as accurate as possible, I want to leave the least ambiguity and provide the most direct and clear phrasing. Basically I want to deal with as few misunderstandings as possible, if me being more accurate means that there are fewer misunderstandings so we can discuss the actual content more, then that's worth it for me.


I‘m telling you this because my bullshit detector is detecting a push on me which isn‘t in good faith but I also refuse to believe you are mafia so you are hiding the true reason for wanting me lynched.

lol.

Just lol.


Why is it funny ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:15 GMT
#2495
On June 11 2024 03:13 Koshi wrote:
Anyway.
I habe time for scott but not for other people.

rayn is really weird.
Vivax doesnt know what to do with the Tfrel pressure.
Sandroba is doing more of the same.

They can all get lynched.


I think you‘re scum.
The only way you lol at what I said is because you know I am right and that both me and Trfel are town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:17 GMT
#2497
On June 11 2024 03:14 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 03:11 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.

That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.

Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"?????
Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find.
On June 11 2024 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:57 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:55 Vivax wrote:
What do you mean yes? Genuine and honest persons don‘t exist everyone lies.

I think you puff up your posts a lot.
How so?

Like I don't want to get too off track but if you're getting at something I can humor you for a bit.


You try hard to look like a saint I mean.
It seems you try to act positively but I don‘t buy it and I believe you are more interested into burying the truth about people with it. Others or yourself
Okay, I mean I disagree but you have a right to your opinion. Why are you telling me this?

I try to phrase things in a way that is as accurate as possible, I want to leave the least ambiguity and provide the most direct and clear phrasing. Basically I want to deal with as few misunderstandings as possible, if me being more accurate means that there are fewer misunderstandings so we can discuss the actual content more, then that's worth it for me.


I‘m telling you this because my bullshit detector is detecting a push on me which isn‘t in good faith but I also refuse to believe you are mafia so you are hiding the true reason for wanting me lynched.
I'll tell you the true reason, but can I get a few answers first?
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 21:20 Vivax wrote:
I think Koshi is mafia now but that means I have to re-evaluate the entire game now.

Because him townreading scott for that stupid reason reeks a lot of tmi.
Were you able to re-evaluate? Is this:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote:
I'm around page 70, the beginning of N1. My worldview right now is:
Town:
trfel
mocsta
oats
scott
Likely town:
vivax
AZ
Mafia is here:
rsoul, rayn, dmb, slam


rsoul ?

Aside from that it‘s not bad.

Koshi/dmb/slam/rayn/mocsta is my newest pool.
But it‘s thrown together I‘m busy moving and I won‘t post boxes.
Still where your head is at?


I have been skirting on my promise.
My head is wildly swinging don‘t expect consistency.
Koshi right now would be my best pick but I haven‘t re evaluated.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:22 GMT
#2502
On June 11 2024 03:20 Koshi wrote:
If you pushed dumb bullshit in the thread on purpose in some retarded guise to find mafia you can lynch me and then find mafia on your own.


Fake outrage

You love it
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:24 GMT
#2505
On June 11 2024 03:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 03:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 03:20 Koshi wrote:
If you pushed dumb bullshit in the thread on purpose in some retarded guise to find mafia you can lynch me and then find mafia on your own.


Fake outrage

You love it

It's ok Vivax. You will never lynch me. But this is cute.

I just want to know what Tfrel did.


Why ?
I will value that he was honest with it but I think he‘s town so why should I pursue it further.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:27 GMT
#2506
AZ could speak up now but he‘s probably choosing not to
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:29 GMT
#2511
On June 11 2024 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Can't wait to read how Tfrel will attempt to throw this game.


Why is he throwing the game ? I thought you are voting me because you think I am scum ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:33 GMT
#2519
On June 11 2024 03:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 03:29 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Can't wait to read how Tfrel will attempt to throw this game.


Why is he throwing the game ? I thought you are voting me because you think I am scum ?

Yes. But that only happened because this thread got weird. Now I might read why it got weird.


Right…

It shouldn‘t matter to you if anyone‘s reasons are genuine as long as they help you get your scumread lynched so I assume you just slipped up by acting so mad about it
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:45 GMT
#2535
On June 11 2024 03:33 Trfel wrote:
Of my possible suspects, I felt that Vivax would be most affected by pressure. Vivax has trouble keeping up his activity as mafia, it stands to reason that he'd struggle even more when facing large odds. (explanation: if you have a hard time posting and keeping active as mafia, then that's even harder when your purpose for posting, staying alive, seems out of reach)

Unfortunately it's really hard to get people to vote for something without super incredible reasons, and honestly even then I can't get people to vote for something :/ so the effort that went into getting the votes kinda gave it away.

Also Vivax seems to have stuff going on (moving, health issues) that prevent him from playing up to his ideal standard, which makes it harder to get a clear conclusion from the pressure. The ideal result would have been Vivax going on a crusade to find the mafia in the face of insurmountable odds, which didn't happen, but I think the way Vivax played makes me much more able to see him as town than I was before. Because he didn't give up, he kept playing his game and doing his thing, and I respect that a ton.

I'd much rather pursue other options for now, I think at this point, Vivax is much less suspicious than several others.

##unvote
##vote die_meatbaby

Side note, you can call my play stupid, I wouldn't necessarily disagree. I think we benefited some from it at least, and I think a few factors out of my control limited the impact. But it's hard to know how it will play out before you will do it, and I've never tried something like this before, I figured it was worth a go.
I think I'm most interested in die_meatbaby and raynpelikoneet. Second tier would be Oatsmaster, Koshi, scott31337, Alakaslam, sandroba, and Vivax. I'm very glad that raynpelikoneet and AlphaZero are whisperers, I hope that AlphaZero can get some leads there.

I'm okayish with sandroba for now, honestly (as in, I am not confident enough that he is mafia to lynch him as opposed for waiting to see more from him). Oatsmaster is paranoia. Koshi is weirding me out, Alakaslam is just confusing. I think that unless something changes dramatically, die_meatbaby is the most sensible lynch.


I can get behind that.
Mostly because of bias and game integrity. It‘s currently hard for us to stay separated and we both might get influenced in ways not transparent to anyone else like laughter etc. Sorry that we‘re a couple, I know it creates problems in games.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:47 GMT
#2539
On June 11 2024 03:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2024 03:33 Trfel wrote:
Of my possible suspects, I felt that Vivax would be most affected by pressure. Vivax has trouble keeping up his activity as mafia, it stands to reason that he'd struggle even more when facing large odds. (explanation: if you have a hard time posting and keeping active as mafia, then that's even harder when your purpose for posting, staying alive, seems out of reach)

Unfortunately it's really hard to get people to vote for something without super incredible reasons, and honestly even then I can't get people to vote for something :/ so the effort that went into getting the votes kinda gave it away.

Also Vivax seems to have stuff going on (moving, health issues) that prevent him from playing up to his ideal standard, which makes it harder to get a clear conclusion from the pressure. The ideal result would have been Vivax going on a crusade to find the mafia in the face of insurmountable odds, which didn't happen, but I think the way Vivax played makes me much more able to see him as town than I was before. Because he didn't give up, he kept playing his game and doing his thing, and I respect that a ton.

I'd much rather pursue other options for now, I think at this point, Vivax is much less suspicious than several others.

##unvote
##vote die_meatbaby

Side note, you can call my play stupid, I wouldn't necessarily disagree. I think we benefited some from it at least, and I think a few factors out of my control limited the impact. But it's hard to know how it will play out before you will do it, and I've never tried something like this before, I figured it was worth a go.
I think I'm most interested in die_meatbaby and raynpelikoneet. Second tier would be Oatsmaster, Koshi, scott31337, Alakaslam, sandroba, and Vivax. I'm very glad that raynpelikoneet and AlphaZero are whisperers, I hope that AlphaZero can get some leads there.

I'm okayish with sandroba for now, honestly (as in, I am not confident enough that he is mafia to lynch him as opposed for waiting to see more from him). Oatsmaster is paranoia. Koshi is weirding me out, Alakaslam is just confusing. I think that unless something changes dramatically, die_meatbaby is the most sensible lynch.


I can get behind that.
Mostly because of bias and game integrity. It‘s currently hard for us to stay separated and we both might get influenced in ways not transparent to anyone else like laughter etc. Sorry that we‘re a couple, I know it creates problems in games.

It doesnt create any problems.


It would be for me so I assume it should be to anyone else.
Couples or rommates in games is a pain in the ass.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 18:57 GMT
#2556
On June 11 2024 03:55 Koshi wrote:
Ok. I cant do shit in this game.
Fml.

Entirz day wasted waiting on Vivax to do something. He did nothing and this guy removes the pressure and leaves the thread in shambles.


That‘s nonsense you wouldn‘t vote me if you didn‘t think I was mafia and if Trfel removed the pressure you‘d pick up said shambles and finish what he started.

Crocodile tears
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 19:03 GMT
#2558
Lynch me step-koshi I‘m stuck in the washing machine
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 19:30 GMT
#2579
On June 11 2024 04:20 Koshi wrote:
Ok Vivax. Let's pretend you transcended and kept so cool under this pressure. Can you explain to me why I was mafia with reasons prior to 2 hours ago?


I already was a bit sus of rsoultin plus you inherited the sandro read which was kinda odd and you usually take me in defense more before committing to lynch me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 19:31 GMT
#2581
On June 11 2024 04:27 Koshi wrote:
Or AZ? Everybody keeps saying he is mafia.


I don‘t like his attitude so I tend to think he is mafia but I find it hard to find a proper reason.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 10 2024 19:49 GMT
#2585
On June 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Best reasoning for rayn mafia is:
He didn't seem to be eager to be in the towncircle with marv and I.

And you guys are all blind for not seeing marv and I were going to be BFFs


Well he turned up with a knife in the back so maybe you already were
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