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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 00:09 GMT
#3318
On June 12 2024 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"have chosen"

maybe it is just me but everything mocsta writes is in a scummy way
I knew I should have stopped reading chapter Ii !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 00:14 GMT
#3325
On June 12 2024 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does that mean then you think DMB is town, if mafia "has chosen" to lynch sandroba?
I don't think it's set in stone.

There was much better push pull lynch resistance today, although majority from my town reads.

Maybe I have the game flipped upside down. I can cop that on the chin. But maybe I am reading the game by Poe well too

In that case was dmb a legit counter wagon?.. I don't believe so. Dmb wagon never picked up and never got buy in to pick up so I don' believe the game go to the point of truly testing this.

Mafia controlled this vote and sandroba is a mislynch.
That's my take.

The only small BS reality I could tinfoil entertain is sandroba was legit modkill and scum wanted bus cred
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 00:18 GMT
#3328
On June 12 2024 09:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 08:42 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 07:57 Mocsta wrote:
Oats - slam voting sandroba sealed his fate as majority

I'm going to keep my vote where it is

This is just a waiting game to deadline

Why aren’t you trying to convince me to vote someone else?
Have you seen the vote discrepancy?

It's pointless. Literally this game feels like being in day 5

Yes oats I've given up for this cycle. You got your lynch let's see what unfolds

It’s 6-3, hardly insurmountable
Who?

Scott's come in and won't change
Slam came in and I assume wont change. Not even sure if here

Trfel has been in and no change.

Appreciate you are considering. That's a great sign. It's just it goes 5-5 on dmb but sandroba held 5 first and still is majority.


Rayn koshi and me are here lol I really don’t get why you are being so defeatist
well they are my scum reads..?? Wha tdo you expect me to do

There's not enough thread control to force mafia to side with town in my opinion

I really don’t understand your approach. You don’t know any else’s alignment. Why are you so like “oh my scum reads won’t vote for my read because they are mafia and I’m sure that my reads are all correct”
maybe that's something I can improve in the future

I mean I'm not 100% on my reads obviously.. it's just I'm at a point I can work with 9 of 11 players.. unfortunately the two willing to talk (who knows maybe move as well) happen to be the two I won't work with.

Sorry oats
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 00:19 GMT
#3330
On June 12 2024 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
are you now selling some bullshit on sandroba telling his scumteam "hey guys i am legit not playing anymore bye" and people like me (as his scumbuddy) then voting for him?
Chapter III town: how to microscope molehills and flatten mointains
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 00:22 GMT
#3331
On June 12 2024 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 09:14 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does that mean then you think DMB is town, if mafia "has chosen" to lynch sandroba?
I don't think it's set in stone.

There was much better push pull lynch resistance today, although majority from my town reads.

Maybe I have the game flipped upside down. I can cop that on the chin. But maybe I am reading the game by Poe well too

In that case was dmb a legit counter wagon?.. I don't believe so. Dmb wagon never picked up and never got buy in to pick up so I don' believe the game go to the point of truly testing this.

Mafia controlled this vote and sandroba is a mislynch.
That's my take.

The only small BS reality I could tinfoil entertain is sandroba was legit modkill and scum wanted bus cred

Thane why do you even say "one of DMB/sandroba is mafia", because in your world sandroba is NOT MAFIA!!!
I don't say that. I have 4 reasons for sandroba to be town and the primary was trust in az.. sandroba is in my town Poe , and stealing. From your book, the caveat is at the bottom of my poe

Lots of skim reading by you continuously

Why everyone else ignores, Idk
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 00:43 GMT
#3347
On June 12 2024 09:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 09:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:42 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 07:57 Mocsta wrote:
Oats - slam voting sandroba sealed his fate as majority

I'm going to keep my vote where it is

This is just a waiting game to deadline

Why aren’t you trying to convince me to vote someone else?
Have you seen the vote discrepancy?

It's pointless. Literally this game feels like being in day 5

Yes oats I've given up for this cycle. You got your lynch let's see what unfolds

It’s 6-3, hardly insurmountable
Who?

Scott's come in and won't change
Slam came in and I assume wont change. Not even sure if here

Trfel has been in and no change.

Appreciate you are considering. That's a great sign. It's just it goes 5-5 on dmb but sandroba held 5 first and still is majority.


Rayn koshi and me are here lol I really don’t get why you are being so defeatist
well they are my scum reads..?? Wha tdo you expect me to do

There's not enough thread control to force mafia to side with town in my opinion

I really don’t understand your approach. You don’t know any else’s alignment. Why are you so like “oh my scum reads won’t vote for my read because they are mafia and I’m sure that my reads are all correct”
maybe that's something I can improve in the future

I mean I'm not 100% on my reads obviously.. it's just I'm at a point I can work with 9 of 11 players.. unfortunately the two willing to talk (who knows maybe move as well) happen to be the two I won't work with.

Sorry oats

I don’t get it though, they might not follow you but you’ve seen how persistent I can be so why wouldn’t they follow me?
honestly, i never considered that
its actually valid and let me know stew on it.

im in a work meeting right now, so today is over. but if im around d3, yes, this is encouraging . thanks
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:21 GMT
#3353
On June 12 2024 09:13 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:42 scott31337 wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 07:57 Mocsta wrote:
Oats - slam voting sandroba sealed his fate as majority

I'm going to keep my vote where it is

This is just a waiting game to deadline

Why aren’t you trying to convince me to vote someone else?
Have you seen the vote discrepancy?

It's pointless. Literally this game feels like being in day 5

Yes oats I've given up for this cycle. You got your lynch let's see what unfolds

It’s 6-3, hardly insurmountable
Who?

Scott's come in and won't change
Slam came in and I assume wont change. Not even sure if here

Trfel has been in and no change.

Appreciate you are considering. That's a great sign. It's just it goes 5-5 on dmb but sandroba held 5 first and still is majority.


Rayn koshi and me are here lol I really don’t get why you are being so defeatist


I'm here as well until deadline although I have some chores to do in between still and hopefully nothing blows up at work.
Copy. You were pretty clear you will go sandroba >> dmb

Let's leave that

Separately, can you walk me through your koshi town read? Is it based on koshi, or dependent on team associations?l.as an example?


I did townlean rsoul, but rsoul is an extremely difficult read for me. Like her town/scum game seem very similar to me. So I go more on votes and actions/etc. But this info is in my filter.

So when Koshi replaces her - he did have some things going on for him. Koshi came in wrecking ball trying to figure this game out and with the typical town dgaf Koshi attitude. He has mostly similar thoughts as I do (there's a couple variations, but the consensus is there).

So that's the jist of it.
yeah I can see that

Maybe this is something we can reevaluate after the flip
.thanks
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:26 GMT
#3357
On June 09 2024 10:59 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 10:58 rsoultin wrote:
i mean apparently i'm a sucker for being buddied by mocsta and i can pretend i sorta remember but i don't really that game, but i just don't think that mocsta switching is scum mocsta even if kels is town and scott is mafia


You are overthinking or mafia. STOP IT!
i do find this post from Scott incongruent with the bebop approach

Does anyone else find this comparatively unusual?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:28 GMT
#3359
On June 12 2024 10:25 scott31337 wrote:
Now I see

I started by filtering scott, I wanted to see if my read would change from him being likely mafia to inform my reading of the rest of D1. These 2 posts in particular are a strong indication scott is actually townie:

So disregard what I was thinking there

Wait Wait

One pint for scummiest is he came across as reading filter instead of thread

Now you recognize he did indeed do that publicly

How does that affect your read?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:31 GMT
#3361
On June 12 2024 10:29 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 10:26 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 10:59 scott31337 wrote:
On June 09 2024 10:58 rsoultin wrote:
i mean apparently i'm a sucker for being buddied by mocsta and i can pretend i sorta remember but i don't really that game, but i just don't think that mocsta switching is scum mocsta even if kels is town and scott is mafia


You are overthinking or mafia. STOP IT!
i do find this post from Scott incongruent with the bebop approach

Does anyone else find this comparatively unusual?


I'll let others chime in, but rsoul does a lot of overthinking or overtyping. I'm not the best at phrasing it - but I could see her going in circles - especially when I was leaning town on her.

I wanted to be clear.

I don't like swearing in mafia (or RL) either but there are times I still do it.
reasonable. Thanks
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:39 GMT
#3365
On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:

sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta,
Vivax (0):
Koshi (0):
scott31337 (0):
in my world.view sandroba is more likely to flip town and the by votes I need to look into slam and what led him to +1 sandroba
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:40 GMT
#3366
On June 12 2024 10:33 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 10:24 Vivax wrote:
I still think it‘s a bad lynch. Hope I‘m wrong.

Scott‘s reasons for being on the wagon are just not satisfying imo. But maybe Trfel just has a default bloc that sheeps him idk. Scott, az, Oats


If I'm sheeping anyone, it's Koshi.
even if sandroba is town?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:47 GMT
#3373
On June 12 2024 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 10:39 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:

sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta,
Vivax (0):
Koshi (0):
scott31337 (0):
in my world.view sandroba is more likely to flip town and the by votes I need to look into slam and what led him to +1 sandroba

how can you color me and koshi read if you dont color sandroba green?

what's your opinion of AZ not being here?
he said he wouldn't be available. Was open about it . I think his re entry with trfel going paranoia mode was unfortunate timing. I'm not concerned by az. If he was here d4 I would be.

I have wanted to spend way less time.here than I have yet can't let it go. The only element I could muster from this question. Is
I'm.surprised he can separate.but maybe it's out of his control unlike me? So big nothing from me --->

Reminds me.ofnyour filter to be fair
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:48 GMT
#3374
On June 12 2024 10:44 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 10:40 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 10:33 scott31337 wrote:
On June 12 2024 10:24 Vivax wrote:
I still think it‘s a bad lynch. Hope I‘m wrong.

Scott‘s reasons for being on the wagon are just not satisfying imo. But maybe Trfel just has a default bloc that sheeps him idk. Scott, az, Oats


If I'm sheeping anyone, it's Koshi.
even if sandroba is town?


Would I be on Sandroba if I really believed he was town?

No.

I can think for myself too.

Not sure what you are getting at.
I know that you do

It was the sheep koshi thing..I meant after this flip if sandy is town..does sheep koshi still hold water?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:50 GMT
#3376
On June 12 2024 10:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 10:39 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:

sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta,
Vivax (0):
Koshi (0):
scott31337 (0):
in my world.view sandroba is more likely to flip town and the by votes I need to look into slam and what led him to +1 sandroba

Why are you not coloring Sandro green
Cos he's not lock

He's not null but I won't go to death with him like I would with you
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:51 GMT
#3377
On June 12 2024 10:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why is slam black when you said one of dmb and sandroba is mafia?
with me and koshi wouldnt that always make 3?
or do you think there is 4 mafia?

This game feels like playing with 5-7mafia lol

Slam is black per my comment at end

A Poe flip consideration
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:54 GMT
#3379
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 01:59 GMT
#3381
On June 12 2024 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 10:50 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 10:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 12 2024 10:39 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:

sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta,
Vivax (0):
Koshi (0):
scott31337 (0):
in my world.view sandroba is more likely to flip town and the by votes I need to look into slam and what led him to +1 sandroba

Why are you not coloring Sandro green
Cos he's not lock

He's not null but I won't go to death with him like I would with you

But you colored rayn and koshi red with the assumption that Sandro is green
ermmm. If I understand right

You believe I associate Rayn/koshi as scum be ause they are voting snadroba?

If so..that's not the case

They are red to me because of approach to d2. Sandroba is part of that because of their votes, but it's more than that too..contributions to culture, inauthentic takes, no big dick energy etc
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 02:01 GMT
#3386
Whoah.nice

I am pleased truly
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 12 2024 02:03 GMT
#3389
Instantly

I wonder why Rayn was asking about my read on az just before lynch

I suspect this will become.important

TMI or will I reevaluate.

Wow. Great job all
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